Final Thoughts: Scott Pilgrim

Tonight on GeekNights, we present our final thoughts on Scott Pilgrim, the comic, in advance of Scott Pilgrim, the Movie, and Scott Pilgrim, the game. In the news, Scott is an old man, and Superman saved everybody (or something like that).

Show Notes

Geeknights 201000804 - Final Thoughts: Scott Pilgrim

Expanded Show Notes - Show Run Time: 01:02:51

    Time | Notes
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00:00:00 | Intro
00:00:24 | Opening Chit-Chat
	 | - Scott's bad line and equipment upgrades
	 | - Equipment limitations
	 | - Scott Pilgrim Movie Ticket Contest discussion
	 | - How many instances make a trend?
	 | - The Detroit sports teams are so bad...
	 | - Going to movies alone and Rym's old sabbatical
	 | - Don't discharge your laser at a mirror - you might hit your eye
00:05:34 | News
	 | - Anime news repeat from Scott
	 | - Superman (comic book) saved a family from house foreclosure
	 | - How to (theoretically) make money off old comic books?
	 | - Scott is news-less?  No!  Anime news!
	 | - Scott watched Space Symphony Maetel & discussion
	 | - Rym is watching Giant Robo and Hokuto No Ken
	 | - Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy are in the watching queue
00:12:51 | Things of the Day
	 | - Bootleg toys
	 | Scott - Bootleg Batman
	 | - Missing things from Otakon
	 | - No recording allowed in the concerts at Otakon
	 | Rym - Otakon animation and concert bootlegs
00:18:30 | Meta Moment
	 | - Gen Con - Aug 5-8, 2010 - Luke Crane & Jared Sorensen will be there 
	 | - Mozilla Drumbeat - Aug 7, 2010
	 | - Pax Prime - Sep 3-5, 2010
	 | - NerdNYC Recess - Sep 11, 2010
	 | - Maker Faire NY - Sep 25-26, 2010
	 | - 10 10 10 Burning Con - Oct 8, 2010
	 | - NerdNYC Boardgame Night - Oct 8, 2010
	 | - NYCC/NYAF - Oct 8-10, 2010
	 | - MAGFEST - Jan 13-16, 2011
	 | - Studio equipment upgrade soon - more guests on the show!
00:19:56 | Main Topic
	 | - Review of Scott Pilgrim series
	 | - Discussion of who would "get" Scott Pilgrim
	 | - Message of the books is timeless for those who experienced similar things
	 | - Book itself is not timeless like Eisner, Tezuka, etc.
	 | - Other Brian Lee O'Malley projects
	 | - Franchise has been handled very well
	 | - Discussion of how the news of the movie and other media were well-received by fans at large
	 | - Has been very true to the source books so far, very few complaints from the nerds
	 | - Discussion of Michael Cera as Scott Pilgrim
	 | - Pre-release screenings are a great idea to help drive hype
	 | - Debate on how pre-release screenings work - who is paying for it?
	 | - Discussion on how movie theater proximity to candy stores screws the theater
	 | - Alcohol and fine dining at theaters?
00:32:20 | *** SPOILER LINE ***
	 | - Rym wasn't surprised when Scott died and came back due to the 1UP
	 | - Scott didn't re-read the volumes, so he forgot some details between releases
	 | - "The Glow" was present even back in volume one
	 | - Simon and the prelude came back in a big way at the end
	 | - Scott has a tendency to forget things that he and Rym view or read if there are gaps in the viewing
	 | - Rym was wrong about the glow - thought that it symbolized going back to the real world
	 | - Bleed over from other media where there is a magic world and a real world tinted Rym & Scott's view
	 | - How you view the world is affected by your own experiences
	 | - Is a cigar really a cigar or is it a metaphor?
	 | - The books are consistent both on the direct level and on the metaphorical level
	 | - Comparison of how the art has improved over the course of the book
	 | - Scott Pilgrim ranks above a lot of books and is as good as some of the better manga
	 | - Rym ranks it as a "B"
	 | - At the same level of Yotsuba&! and Azumanga Daioh
	 | - Scott Pilgrim is NOT a slice of life book - it has an overarching story
	 | - Discussion on Kim Pine & Knives Chau
	 | - Discussion on Gideon
	 | - Discussions on the other characters
	 | - Scott would take Young Neil over Knives Chau
	 | - Character interaction was very realistic
	 | - Some interaction seemed to be more about the supporting characters bouncing off Scott
	 | - The metaphors in the book weren't subtle, but they worked
	 | - Scott's problems in the book were very similar to problems other people in this generation may have had
	 | - Scott Pilgrim is NOT about Hipsters
	 | - Discussion of Hipsters and how people misunderstand the term
	 | - Characters in Scott Pilgrim are cool nerds or geeks
	 | - Description of Hipsters
	 | - Why are people threatened by Hipsters?
	 | - Discussion of the ratio of trust-fund Hipsters to non-trust-fund Hipsters
	 | - Scott Pilgrim's band sucks at the end of the books
	 | - People who didn't get the ending missed the core message and just liked the action and video game events
	 | - Rym wagers that most people don't know what "Clash at Demonhead" really is
	 | - Knives' moment of closure was one of Rym's favorite parts
	 | - Discussion of how old games and media don't hold up to the test of time
	 | - Rym is looking forward to the movie about as much as NS2
	 | - Scott is still looking forward to Tron
	 | - Tron discussion
	 | - What fantasy world would you live in?
	 | - Hopes for Brian Lee O'Malley doing something cool in the future
	 | - Would like to get Brian Lee O'Malley on the show
	 | - Theoretical advertising on Geeknights
01:01:55 | Outro
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