#geeknights | Logs for 2017-06-25

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[20:30:21] <Aria> Man religion
[20:30:25] <Aria> None of this is consistent
[20:31:35] <Aria> I'm back to researching demon names
[20:32:08] <Aria> And everyone has like five names and it's impossible to get like a good list, so I can't know if one guy is actually another guy
[20:32:46] <Aria> I think Asmodai is the same character as Azazel. But Wikipedia does not make that clear at all
[20:33:37] <Aria> No sorry, I think Amaymon is the same character as Azazel
[20:34:15] <Aria> Asmodai is a Hell-King who is ruled by Amaymon -- So that makes Amaymon an emperor, right?
[20:34:17] <Aria> Nope, prince.
[20:35:11] <Aria> Is prince somehow better than king in this hierarchy? I guess that could be the case. Nope, kings are better, says in the Asmodai article
[20:35:45] <Aria> Also, at the bottom of this wiki article
[20:35:46] <Aria> "Lucifer has 3 sons including Amaimon and Abbadea the prince of sin and death and half sub son asmadeus.
[20:35:47] <Aria> "
[20:36:16] <Aria> Yeah two of those, the real sons, the more interesting characters probably, are not mentioned anywhere outside this article.
[20:36:59] <Apsup> Maybe because when that stuff was originally written there was no internet to check the facts so things just melded together.
[20:37:20] <Apsup> And people wrote whatever.
[20:37:28] <Aria> Also there is a bit where there are four bosses, one for each cardinal direction. They are named ABCD. I click on B, it says "There are four bosses, one for each cardinal direction. XBYX"
[20:38:38] <Aria> But don't people believe this stuff? Isn't this religious canon? How can you think something is true if it's not internally consistent!
[20:39:35] <Aria> That one X was meant to be a Z...
[20:42:42] <Aria> Oh yeah also welcome back. How were the woods?
[20:45:37] <Aria> Bronzdragon says hi. He is cooking
[20:45:42] <Aria> Almost dinner time
[20:45:48] <Aria> (its 22)
[20:50:19] <Apsup> Woods were cold, also there was no final fantasy. I guess it was fine.
[20:50:56] <Apsup> Also it was even harder to check consistency of stuff for regular folk who, you know, didn't know how to read.
[20:51:08] <Aria> I mean today!
[20:51:19] <Aria> On a related note, that ninja chain and sickle looks a lot less effective than I imagined
[20:51:20] <Apsup> Like Christianity was all about taking pagan habits and holidays and even religious figures and rebranding them.
[20:51:45] <Apsup> Today no one cares about names for random demons, those things are not preached at Chruches.
[20:52:14] <Aria> But can de decanon stuff? There is no lore master that everyone accepts
[20:52:49] <Aria> The chain is like 50cm. Which I guess is fine for blocking. But imagined they like threw them out and tangled them around your legs or whatever, in which case it wouldn't reach
[20:53:14] <Apsup> I don't think that would work out too well.
[20:53:16] <Aria> Also it's just a weight, no spike. In my mind it would like wrap around and stab you from behind, like in that ninja magic movie
[20:53:26] <Apsup> Yea, no.
[20:53:39] <Apsup> Not happening, in this reality.
[20:53:46] <Aria> Why not just use a shield then?
[20:54:25] <Apsup> Dunno. Easier to pass off as farming tool?
[20:54:47] <Apsup> I think that's important aspect of many non-basic-sword weapons.
[20:56:49] <Aria> This one has a pretty long chain https://upload.wikimedia.org
[20:57:01] <Aria> That's for tangling around your sword/leg, right?
[20:58:19] <Aria> Yes okay
[20:58:20] <Aria> "Attacking with the weapon usually entailed swinging the weighted chain in a large circle over one's head, and then whipping it forward to entangle an opponent's spear, sword, or other weapon, or immobilizing his arms or legs. This allows the kusarigama user to easily rush forward and strike with the sickle.[2]"
[20:58:33] <Aria> Still would be cooler if it had a pointy bit and stabbed you from behind.
[22:28:36] <Aria> Hey Apsup
[22:28:45] <Aria> I have 3 birds carrying a box
[22:28:53] <Aria> Trying to keep the box level
[22:29:00] <Aria> At what points on the box do they attach?
[22:45:45] <Apsup> corner corner and middle of front?
[22:46:03] <Aria> back corner back corner middle front?
[22:50:55] <Apsup> yes
[22:52:15] <Aria> Right. That's where I was leaning as well. The back would overtake the front one though
[22:52:25] <Aria> Assuming cables
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[22:59:54] <Aria> You should sleep
[22:59:58] <Aria> I'm going to sleep
[23:00:00] <Aria> Good night
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