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[07:23:05] <Bronz|work> Good morning.
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[09:12:16] <Bronz|work> Hi Apsupp.
[09:16:03] <Apsupp> Helllo.
[09:16:05] <Apsupp> Also...
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[09:16:32] <Apsup> The early access of Final Fantasy XIV's new expasion started just.
[09:17:38] <Bronz|work> So you're going to be taking a look at it?
[09:22:02] <Apsup> I'm in a queue to log in.
[09:22:22] <Apsup> "Take a look" hah. I'll put some serious hours into it, this weekend.
[09:22:51] <Bronz|work> Take a very long and in depth look.
[09:36:23] <Bronz|work> Hey, did you know that Linus Torvalds and I share a birthday?
[09:36:33] <Bronz|work> Or actually, every birthday.
[09:37:13] <Bronz|work> Do you have more than one birthday? Or is it the aniversery of the birthday that you celebrate?
[09:38:44] <Apsup> I'm pretty sure I was born only once.
[09:39:01] <Apsup> So I guess it's more of a anniversary thing.
[09:39:24] <Bronz|work> so then we share only one birthday.
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[09:44:41] <Aria> Hi
[09:44:47] <Aria> IRC wasn't running
[09:44:53] <Bronz|work> It happens
[09:45:02] <Bronz|work> Hey, when is Linus Torvald's birthday?
[09:45:19] <Aria> Torsdag?
[09:45:21] <Aria> I dunno
[09:45:49] <Aria> There is a dedicated VR exercise bike, but all it does it transmit your RPMs. It doesn't let you steer. You steer with your headset
[09:46:02] <Bronz|work> Same as mine!
[09:46:09] <Aria> Oh I didn't know
[09:46:12] <Bronz|work> Steering with the headset sounds terrible.
[09:46:26] <Aria> Yes, exactly
[09:46:29] <Aria> Why is this a prodct?
[09:47:53] <Apsup> Because people are more interested being among first to cach in on VR than to figure things out properlyl.
[09:48:39] <Aria> I really want a VR bike.
[09:48:52] <Aria> But it would have to support swivel
[09:54:23] <Aria> https://i.redd.it
[10:07:15] <Bronz|work> Problem here is that the pack is always available, and has a set price
[10:07:29] <Bronz|work> But then each individual thing was discounted, and the pack price wasn't updated.
[10:07:42] <Aria> I see
[10:08:03] <Bronz|work> They should have an automated "Pack price is higher than indivual games" message that pops up somewhere.
[10:08:04] <Aria> It should do a check if the total of all products is less than pack price, and if so match it
[10:11:20] <Bronz|work> Yes.
[10:42:20] <Bronz|work> They have burgers in the cafeteria today
[10:42:22] <Bronz|work> But no burger buns
[10:42:30] <Bronz|work> So they're using toast as a replacement.
[10:42:42] <Bronz|work> This is all hearsay, but that sounds really weird.
[10:42:55] <Aria> Yes.
[10:43:12] <Aria> Then again, toast is less bread than hamburger buns which means more burger taste
[10:47:43] <Bronz|work> True...
[10:47:49] <Bronz|work> But the bun taste is pretty good too.
[10:47:58] <Bronz|work> But toast is pretty tasty too.
[10:48:04] <Aria> Bun definitely preferred
[10:48:06] <Bronz|work> It's more like a meatloaf sandwich than a burger though.
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[14:36:52] <Aria> Hey Apsup
[14:37:18] <Aria> I'm writing a book. It's set during tudor times, but all the language is translated to modern English
[14:38:10] <Aria> So people say things like "speedrun strats"
[14:38:27] <Aria> Anyway, this character, in lore, is suggesting the price of an object to be one crown
[14:38:56] <Aria> Or close enough
[14:39:11] <Aria> Should I swap out the word "crown" with "gold coin"?
[14:39:33] <Aria> Or "five shilling coin"?
[14:53:09] <Apsup> I guess they would say one x, where x is the unit of money in the world.
[14:53:14] <Apsup> or country
[14:53:21] <Apsup> Not assuming that money is universal.
[14:55:02] <Aria> So you would use the era appropriate crown, even though someone might not know what a crown is
[14:56:23] <Apsup> I think it would become quite clear from context when people talk about units of money. Of course if you already do funny stuff with the language, you could just say "one dollar".-
[14:56:38] <Aria> Aaah... ah...
[14:56:40] <Aria> Okay
[14:56:41] <Aria> So.
[14:56:43] <Aria> Okay.
[14:56:48] <Aria> There's a pile of gold
[14:56:56] <Aria> That a dragon is hoarding
[14:57:00] <Aria> The one guy takes a jewel
[14:58:01] <Aria> The other guy is like 'what currency do dragons trade in', and then the other guy is like 'gold coins'. But the pile of gold has head-crowns in it, and those crowns share word with currency crowns, and it's super obvious what's being referred to and everything is fine
[14:58:12] <Bronz|work> The Tudors had pounds, sovereigns, crowns, half-crowns, shillings, sixpences, groats and pennies.
[14:58:13] <Aria> But then I read it again and realised that if you don't know that crowns are coins, it's confusing
[14:58:18] <Bronz|work> that's a lot of denominations
[14:58:31] <Aria> Yes, but most of those are silver
[14:58:42] <Aria> Crowns angels and pounds are gold
[14:58:51] <Bronz|work> Well, go for pounds then?
[14:59:00] <Apsup> Maybe you have just overcomplecated things.
[14:59:02] <Bronz|work> also, angels?
[14:59:17] <Bronz|work> Also, old currency was never just one material
[14:59:17] <Aria> Angel. It's a type of coin
[14:59:38] <Bronz|work> If shillings are usually silver, maybe they can be gold here?
[14:59:47] <Bronz|work> Just means they're smaller.
[14:59:49] <Aria> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[15:01:02] <Aria> It's called angel because it has an angel on it
[15:03:00] <Aria> Also sovereigns and pounds are the same
[15:03:27] <Aria> When you listed the coins, you listed them both, implying two different coins
[15:06:25] <Bronz|work> Ah, see, that's because I copy/pasted my answer of off the first hit on google.
[15:07:02] <Aria> Yo if you have a 1916 pound in mint condition, it's worth 31K USD, almost 32K
[15:07:44] <Bronz|work> =O
[15:07:46] <Bronz|work> http://www.historyonthenet.com
[15:07:54] <Aria> "Canada: George V gold Sovereign 1916-C MS66 PCGS" is worth 88K USD
[15:07:54] <Bronz|work> This currency value list is super confusing
[15:08:46] <Bronz|work> Because they use shillings and pence and pennies to describe the value of 8 different coins, all mixed together
[15:09:37] <Aria> Metric money best money
[15:11:43] <Aria> "South Africa: George V bronze pattern Sovereign 1928-SA,..."
[15:11:49] <Aria> 184K USD
[15:14:10] <Aria> Some people pay a lot of money for coins.
[15:16:32] <Bronz|work> It'd be like saying "The euro is worth 5x 20c coins, and the 50c is worth 10x 5c coins".
[15:16:49] <Bronz|work> Either list everything as cents, or say how many of the previous you need
[15:16:49] <Aria> Yes its stupid.
[15:17:00] <Bronz|work> Also, "one half-crown = two shillings and six pence"
[15:17:02] <Bronz|work> DUDE
[15:17:16] <Bronz|work> whomever wrote this blogpost is the worst.
[15:17:31] <Aria> Americans say counting to 12, and then changing units is more intuitive for mental maths.
[15:17:53] <Bronz|work> See, if they just had a base12 system, it'd be fine,
[15:18:05] <Bronz|work> But they have a 4/3/12/8/24 system
[15:18:28] <Aria> No they don't...
[15:18:34] <Bronz|work> I made those number up.
[15:19:06] <Aria> Okay. So it's pennies.
[15:19:13] <Aria> Every 12 is a shilling
[15:19:17] <Aria> So that's one change
[15:19:28] <Aria> And then for shillings, every 20 is a pound
[15:21:36] <Bronz|work> American measures of lengh go like this: inch (12) foot (3) yard (1760) mile.
[15:21:50] <Aria> =P
[15:22:03] <Bronz|work> Yes, there's nothing between yard and mile.
[15:22:35] <Bronz|work> You know how Americans solved that? They were all "Eh, don't really use yards, mile is now 5280 feet instead"
[15:26:38] <Bronz|work> Did you know that in America, their sticks of butter regularly contain 4 sticks of butter?
[15:26:53] <Bronz|work> a 'stick' of butter is a standard measurement, used in recipes.
[15:35:09] <Bronz|work> So, wutcha upto?
[15:35:32] <Aria> Being sleepy
[15:35:33] <Aria> Its friday
[15:35:37] <Aria> I want a nap
[15:35:40] <Bronz|work> Indeed it is.
[15:40:08] <Aria> The Xbox devkit has a framerate counter on it
[15:40:14] <Aria> On the console
[15:50:52] <Aria> I mean like.. on the outside
[15:51:07] <Aria> Not over HDMI, but on a separate screen on the box itself
[15:52:03] <Bronz|work> Oh that's cool.
[15:52:45] <Aria> And you can't see the edges of the screen. It's behind the same glass as the rest of the console
[15:52:50] <Aria> It's really sleek
[15:57:30] <Bronz|work> I want that on my real xbox.
[15:57:46] <Aria> But it'll always be red.
[15:57:55] <Bronz|work> That's ok.
[16:23:17] <Bronz|work> I'm still in a call
[16:23:22] <Aria> But...
[16:23:22] <Bronz|work> Uuuugh, this sucks.
[16:23:28] <Aria> It's 17:23
[16:30:38] <Aria> You should solve that problem.
[16:30:43] <Aria> And then head home
[16:30:50] <Bronz|work> Bye
[16:30:56] <Aria> Bye
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