#geeknights | Logs for 2017-02-20

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[08:34:39] <Bronz|work> Good morning.
[08:34:49] <Apsup> Mornin!
[08:35:18] <Bronz|work> How goes?
[08:35:40] <Apsup> Just woke up. So no idea yet.
[08:36:51] <Bronz|work> How was the weekend then?
[08:36:59] <Apsup> It was good.
[08:37:07] <Apsup> Went by quite fast.
[08:37:19] <Bronz|work> I hurt my thumb.
[08:37:26] <Bronz|work> Or rather, my thumb started hurting.
[08:37:28] <Apsup> Yesterday was weird. Woke up super early and still it went past really really fast.
[08:37:38] <Apsup> Oh no! :
[08:37:42] <Apsup> *:[
[08:40:45] <Bronz|work> It's fine normally, but when I grab (heavy) things, sometimes it hurts.
[08:40:48] <Bronz|work> Ah well.
[09:35:48] <Bronz|work> I missed the bus today.
[09:36:03] <Bronz|work> At least, I thought I did, so I started walking. Five minutes in, the bus drives past me.
[09:36:13] <Bronz|work> I barely made it to work in time.
[10:07:56] <Apsup> Good old busses, never on time.
[10:08:24] <Bronz|work> I checked the online schedule, it wasn't in there either.
[10:08:30] <Bronz|work> So yeah, that sucked.
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[11:18:06] <AriaDesu> I shouldn't have slept in
[11:24:59] <Bronz|work> Hey Aria and AriaDesu.
[11:25:29] <AriaDesu> In my mind, I barely slept after 7
[11:25:42] <AriaDesu> But apparently it was 4 hours.
[11:31:01] <Bronz|work> yeah...
[11:31:09] <Bronz|work> I dunno, I don't feel tired.
[11:36:14] <Apsup> I didn't sleep overly long, but thus I'm kinda tired.
[12:26:35] <AriaDesu> Hey Bronz|work
[12:26:48] <AriaDesu> We're not getting a Switch at launch, right?
[12:27:15] <AriaDesu> We'll get one when it's cheaper after Zelda is all the way out?
[12:38:04] <AriaDesu> This new Sword Art Online actually looks good!
[12:38:09] <AriaDesu> How did that happen?
[12:38:21] <AriaDesu> Its a cross over with other cartoons
[12:38:28] <AriaDesu> Ah okay
[12:38:57] <AriaDesu> The good character designs are from another IP, I thought they were this games original characters
[12:39:17] <AriaDesu> Also the main characters has a daughter!
[12:39:47] <AriaDesu> I mean, she dies in the opening cutscene, but still, he's not like.. 16..
[12:40:42] <AriaDesu> Wait, isn't Accel World also garabge? Surely the cool enemy designs can't be from Accel World, they have to be original for this game
[12:48:53] <Bronz|work> I wasn't planning on getting a switch.
[12:51:16] <AriaDesu> Why do people make reactions to music videos?
[12:51:42] <AriaDesu> Also why does Avex put out 4 minutes of a 5 minute song?
[12:51:44] <Bronz|work> Because people enjoy seeing other people's reactions to random shit?
[12:52:30] <AriaDesu> At that point it's just annoying, because you're getting the full enjoyment of the song, you don't need to go buy it, you get the full song, and then an annoyance at the end when it ends abruptly
[12:52:49] <AriaDesu> But there is nothing to react to!
[12:52:53] <AriaDesu> "Yeah it's a good song"
[12:53:03] <AriaDesu> "I guess these ladies are dancing"
[12:53:19] <AriaDesu> "Oh this one is in her underwear"
[12:53:38] <AriaDesu> "Nvm, has a dress on now. Okay this is the previous shot. I see, it's just cutting between these two shots. Cool."
[12:53:38] <Bronz|work> *shrug*
[12:53:52] <Bronz|work> Those are bad reactions.
[12:54:17] <Bronz|work> "Ah, yes, the booty shake symbolisis the oppression of women, and their struggle against it".
[12:54:19] <AriaDesu> I mean, those aren't from the actual reaction videos, I'm watching the real MV and guessing what you might say
[12:54:59] <Bronz|work> *Symbolises
[12:56:52] <AriaDesu> Anyway, if you search for AAA Jewel, which is the song I searched for, first result is the official music video. Some other similar things, then nr 5 is a reaction video. Next a remix and some other shit, and then further down the page is two more reaction videos
[12:59:31] <AriaDesu> Okay I'm watching this reaction video, and its completely worthless
[12:59:49] <AriaDesu> "Whoever directed this, they've got good ideas."
[14:05:20] <AriaDesu> I watched a video of Danny O'Dwyer explain why Horizon Zero Dawn is super worth getting
[14:05:24] <AriaDesu> But he didn't convince me at all
[14:05:40] <AriaDesu> And at the end, he made a comparison and said it's this years Uncharted 4, which seems very apt
[14:06:08] <AriaDesu> But also does not make me want to put down actually good games like EDF or HITMAN to play it
[14:07:27] <Bronz|work> Hmm, fair enough.
[14:15:00] <Apsup> Yea, Horizon Zero Dawn has apparently gotten good scores and such.
[14:15:17] <Apsup> But I need to look into it myself to see what's being praised and how it actually looks outside of trailers.
[14:15:30] <Apsup> For me Uncharted 4 comparison is not a good sign.
[14:17:03] <AriaDesu> On the note of Uncharted being massively successful, me and Bronz|work watched several videos of Brad and Dan from Gaint Bomb play HITMAN, and oh boy do they not know how to play
[14:17:53] <Bronz|work> It's not that they don't react in time, or don't execute the plans entirely successfully, it's that they have such a poor understanding of the systems of hitman.
[14:18:28] <Bronz|work> "Why am I being detected? The detection arrow is filling up, and this guy is looking at me, what do I do?"
[14:18:35] <Apsup> That's how some/most people are, even among those who play lots of video games, even for a job.
[14:19:04] <Apsup> Some people just don't properly get systems, and/or don't spend enough time learning them.
[14:19:09] <AriaDesu> They have all the tutorials on (the game has very aggressive tutorials, tells you step by step what to do, for the entirety of the game, I /think/ they expect you to turn them off at some point before then) and follow them exactly, but somehow can't understand why things happen or what the next step is at every possible point. They have a lot of hours in the game, there is video of them playing it for like 10 hours, and we've
[14:19:09] <AriaDesu> watched all of it
[14:19:16] <Bronz|work> Usually, I don't have that problem with the giant bomb people
[14:19:31] <Bronz|work> I get systems before they do sometimes, but that's fine. It just seemed worse for Hitman?
[14:19:49] <Apsup> Well, I haven't watched their Hitman stuff, so I can't talk about that exactly.
[14:20:24] <AriaDesu> I mean, I think the Giant Bomb people are generally bad at reading games
[14:20:45] <Apsup> Dan and Vinny were surpricingly good at Contra though when I watched that. Of course I only watched the last few episodes where they already had lots of practice.
[14:21:10] <AriaDesu> But usually its a quick look, and its a game I haven't played, so whatever, they've only played it for a short while. But here they've played it tons, so it's especially weird and stupid
[14:21:32] <AriaDesu> Contra doesn't require you to think or learn systems though
[14:21:36] <AriaDesu> Its all execution
[14:21:56] <Bronz|work> Also, vinny is a lot sharper when it comes to that sort of stuff
[14:22:18] <AriaDesu> Like, Alex plays Mega Man good enough. But whenever he asks "Why does X not behave the way I expect?" its a silly question because X behaves exactly how I expected.
[14:22:30] <Bronz|work> He'll go "but you can just slide under that, can't you?" and then Alex goes "No see... oh yeah you're right".
[14:22:32] <Apsup> But still, sometimes people don't get stuff, that happens.
[14:22:50] <AriaDesu> Vinny doesn't seem bad at understanding games. Its just Brad
[14:23:21] <AriaDesu> Drew I don't think how memorized the layout of the Playstation controller yet =P
[14:23:42] <Bronz|work> It was especially annoying in the last map. "Ah, the outfits are keys" he says in the first minute.
[14:23:55] <Bronz|work> And then he spends the next 40 going "Where are the keys to all these doors!?"
[14:24:22] <Bronz|work> Also, if we're complaining about the GB people, it's not because we blame them.
[14:24:37] <Bronz|work> Not understanding something is fine.
[14:31:18] <AriaDesu> I dunno
[14:31:21] <AriaDesu> I think I blame Brad
[14:31:44] <AriaDesu> It has to be wilful ignorance
[15:12:47] <AriaDesu> Only 10 more credits slides left
[15:12:51] <AriaDesu> But they are like the hardest 10.
[15:13:06] <Bronz|work> You can do it!
[15:13:23] <AriaDesu> Also I've only done 20, so its not like 10 is that few
[15:45:59] <AriaDesu> https://youtu.be
[15:46:20] <AriaDesu> (That one does need sound. But I can just transcribe it just the same)
[15:47:05] <AriaDesu> "So my arms where getting tired, so while I was waiting for my arms to recover, I rigged up this thing. It's a bag of bricks and some rollers."
[15:47:37] <Bronz|work> I figured from how it looked.
[16:47:33] <AriaDesu> Okay! Only 8 more slides
[16:47:58] <AriaDesu> I've been working a while two only have 2 progress.
[16:48:16] <AriaDesu> Oh shit its pretty late. Alright. I guess I'll bank this for now. Go. shower
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