#geeknights | Logs for 2017-02-14

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[07:19:08] <Bronz|work> Good morning!
[07:19:24] <Aria> Hi
[07:19:32] <Bronz|work> Ah, you actually are here.
[07:19:36] <Aria> Remember I set it to "publish" overnight?
[07:19:41] <Aria> It didn't.
[07:19:46] <Bronz|work> I didn't see a signin message
[07:19:46] <Aria> Didn't even render
[07:20:03] <Aria> Well I was already signed in!
[07:25:19] <Bronz|work> That makes sense.
[07:25:26] <Bronz|work> Also, it didn't render?
[07:25:27] <Bronz|work> =(
[07:26:01] <Aria> I think it did but not output to file
[07:26:40] <Bronz|work> Hmm, so did it upload then?
[07:26:50] <Aria> No
[07:26:59] <Aria> When I arrived it was on 0% uploaded screen
[07:27:02] <Aria> I cancelled it
[07:27:05] <Bronz|work> Ah, I see.
[07:27:16] <Aria> Because it had been going for like 5+ hours on a 2+ hour task
[08:17:01] <Aria> I tried some 3D Dark Souls in VR just now
[08:17:41] <Aria> But it wasn't good 3D, it was like cinema 3D
[08:17:47] <Aria> Where things are layered
[08:18:18] <Aria> The program I used to do it didn't have a 3D camera
[08:18:28] <Aria> It just used the depth buffer to split the picture up
[08:19:04] <Aria> Also bigscreenvr has major fucking issues
[08:19:13] <Aria> Like, its time warping every frame
[08:19:16] <Aria> There are no A frames
[08:19:45] <Aria> I thought I was experiencing the effects of that new Rift patch that is supposed to break everything, but home is perfectly fine
[08:19:50] <Aria> Bigscreen is just broken
[08:20:40] <Aria> Anyway, 2D is about on par with the 3D I used. At which point I think I'll stop trying to get 3D to work.
[08:56:54] <Bronz|work> Hey sorry
[08:57:10] <Bronz|work> You actually got 3D to (sorta) work?
[08:57:14] <Bronz|work> That's impressive.
[08:57:16] <Aria> It worked
[08:58:01] <Aria> But the ATW was causing a lot of visual artefacts
[08:58:16] <Bronz|work> Ah, I see.
[08:58:16] <Aria> Like, very significant. But that's fine, I can work around that by not using bigscreenvr probably
[08:58:30] <Aria> But even when it was working optimally, the effect just wasn't that good
[08:58:48] <Aria> So I'm happy playing 2D instead, as layered 3D would only be marginally better
[08:59:19] <Aria> Maybe high quality 3D would be different.
[09:19:15] <Aria> This lady from Wonderland Wars looks real dumb
[09:20:02] <Aria> She's snow themed but wearing a micro bikini and like 2/3rds of a kimono
[09:21:12] <Aria> C'mon, you aren't even supposed to wear underwear with a kimono, if you wanted to make sexy boob lady, just give her a full kimono and have her tits flop out when she moves
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[09:29:22] <Bronz|work> Oh hi Apsup.
[09:29:27] <Apsup> hi
[09:35:38] <Aria> Kotaku just posts tweets as articles?
[09:35:54] <Apsup> From what I know, Kotaku posts many things as articles.
[09:36:03] <Bronz|work> This isn't actually a question?
[09:36:52] <Aria> No, I know they post tweets as articles
[09:36:55] <Aria> Just surprised by it
[09:37:17] <Aria> They didn't even credit the guy who made the tweet. I mean, I can see his name and avatar, but there is no link
[09:39:51] <Aria> Hey Apsup, did we tell you about our Dark Souls gimmick run idea that we never got around to?
[09:40:06] <Apsup> I don't think so.
[09:40:38] <Aria> One player gets to see the screen, the other player gets to hold the controller and see the guy seeing the screen
[09:41:39] <Apsup> I'm pretty sure that blindfold runs of Dark Souls has been done
[09:42:09] <Aria> Well yes, but that relies on one guy being super adept at the game
[09:42:18] <Aria> Being able to tell what to do based on sound and memory
[09:42:22] <Aria> Our thing is about communication
[09:42:55] <Apsup> I think I might have seen that variation too. Also you still need to be super adept at the game.
[09:43:37] <Apsup> We played packman like that coupple weeks back. It was quite hard.
[09:44:04] <Aria> Pacman? But that's much more twitch
[09:44:21] <Aria> In Dark Souls you're safe as long as you're holding Shield Light
[09:44:24] <Bronz|work> I dunno, Metal Gear Solid does have a lot of waiting...
[09:44:54] <Bronz|work> (Ha, see what I did there? I'm saying MGS is like Pacman!)
[09:44:56] <Aria> Also do you think you could link me to someone else doing a similar Dark Souls run?
[09:45:06] <Aria> Aha.
[09:46:09] <Apsup> https://www.youtube.com
[09:46:18] <Apsup> First even comes with verbal assistance.
[09:48:12] <Aria> Okay, so part of what we wanted was to do hand gestures
[09:48:33] <Aria> See, one guy is the conductor, so he can see the music
[09:48:36] <Aria> game*
[09:49:02] <Aria> And the other one is the player who forgot his screen, but you aren't gonna know because the skilled conductor will guide him through it. Eh? Eh?
[09:50:05] <Aria> Though these people are doing a clock directional system, which is in the same realm for sure
[09:52:09] <Aria> Alright, maybe it isn't so novel
[09:52:13] <Aria> Seemed fun to do though
[09:54:48] <Aria> Still can't order tesco
[09:55:06] <Aria> I guess it's still early, maybe they'll have fixed it later
[09:55:28] <Aria> For context: We can't buy food, because the food people are all booked up until Monday
[09:55:43] <Aria> Usually they're booked out a few hours in advance, not days
[09:55:46] <Bronz|work> Ah, well, I'll go last the store.
[09:57:21] <Bronz|work> *past
[09:58:05] <Aria> Giant Bomb East has started playing Yakuza, it's pretty entertaining
[09:58:16] <Aria> But they're playing Yakuza 0
[09:58:34] <Aria> Which they were playing 1 remake instead
[09:59:13] <Aria> Also they really should've taken the opportunity with re-releasing the games to rename them to 'Like a Dragon'
[09:59:43] <Bronz|work> Hey Aria, I think you'll like this: http://imgur.com
[10:00:34] <Aria> ...Is that a Windows dialog box?
[10:00:41] <Bronz|work> Lotus Notes.
[10:00:42] <Aria> Like, I understand a Linux one
[10:00:50] <Bronz|work> Yeah, it's windows.
[10:00:53] <Bronz|work> It's not from my system.
[10:01:04] <Aria> Because Linux applications are tiny
[10:01:06] <Aria> Easy to install
[10:01:14] <Bronz|work> Aha?
[10:01:44] <Aria> Don't um... slow down the computer
[10:01:55] <Aria> Mostly that they are small and easy to install
[10:02:08] <Aria> But on Windows, anything that can be a web app should probably be a webapp
[10:02:37] <Bronz|work> I mean, this is a Lotus Notes database.
[10:02:48] <Aria> Also I asked the Xsens people for a quote, and they replied with a link to their website saying that I should ask for a quote if their product looks interesting.
[10:03:02] <Aria> Yeah I forgot, that makes sense then
[10:03:12] <Aria> I was thinking like the hours worked application
[10:03:28] <Aria> Which is neat on Linux, but would be silly on Windows
[10:05:26] <Bronz|work> Well, it's a windows application also...
[10:05:50] <Bronz|work> I mean, all it is is a authentication/database interface.
[10:05:55] <Bronz|work> So it should be light-weight on both?
[10:06:35] <Aria> Yes, but websites are more convenient because Windows windows are rigid and bad
[10:06:43] <Aria> And applications take up harddrive space
[10:06:48] <Aria> And search is bad on Windows
[10:06:57] <Bronz|work> Yes, and yes, but also, this is true on this version of Linux as well.
[10:07:05] <Aria> and installing something requires you to go to a website, so why not just go to a website
[10:07:45] <Aria> " If you like, I would like to invite you to an online demonstration of our products. What would be a suitable moment to plan this?
[10:07:45] <Aria> "
[10:07:54] <Aria> Dude, it's an expensive wiimote, I can figure this out.
[10:08:15] <Aria> Maybe I should just strap wiimotes to my limbs.
[10:08:40] <Bronz|work> The search in Gnome2 is also bad.
[10:08:46] <Aria> Use Gnome 3
[10:09:00] <Aria> Or just use third party search, come on
[10:09:23] <Bronz|work> Man, the xsens thing looks like a corporate scam.
[10:10:10] <Bronz|work> As in, one of those applications that they sell to cooperations, that doesn't actually do anything.
[10:10:45] <Aria> =P
[10:11:41] <Aria> I'm sorry now you're just taking the piss, Kingdom Hearts
[10:11:52] <Aria> That's not the real title of your fucking thing
[10:13:01] <Aria> ♕ Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5+II.5 ReMIX ♡
[10:14:47] <Bronz|work> What is that first character?
[10:14:50] <Bronz|work> Is... is that a crown?
[10:14:57] <Apsup> looks like a crown
[10:15:09] <Aria> Yes
[10:15:32] <Bronz|work> I don't think that's part of the title
[10:15:46] <Aria> That's what it says in the email
[10:15:51] <Aria> Asking me to pre order
[10:15:59] <Bronz|work> That's because the logo has a heart and crown.
[10:16:05] <Aria> Like what is that even is that a game? Am I preordering a movie?
[10:19:01] <Bronz|work> I dunno,
[10:19:14] <Bronz|work> Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue is still a sillier name.
[10:19:41] <Aria> There's a big gulf between 2: Subtitle
[10:19:48] <Aria> Or 2.8: Subtitle
[10:20:00] <Aria> And "1.5+II.5"
[10:20:21] <Bronz|work> Final
[10:20:23] <Bronz|work> Chapter
[10:20:25] <Bronz|work> Prologue
[10:20:56] <Aria> Okay, that is true. Final Chapter Prologue is a hell of a subtitle
[10:21:22] <Aria> But that's old hat. This one is numbered with an equation!
[10:22:25] <Apsup> 1.5 and II.5 are two different games, that are actually collection of games.
[10:22:52] <Aria> Is it then not I.5 and II.5?
[10:22:58] <Apsup> 1.5 is HD remake of Kingdom Hearts 1 and some other stuff and II.5 has Kingdom Hearts 2 and some other stuff.
[10:23:06] <Apsup> I have no idea why anything is what it is.
[10:23:17] <Aria> Pretty sure II is a variable and its just Arabic numerals
[10:23:26] <Apsup> Maybe they realized how the series has gotten out of hand and that naming is to reflect it.
[10:23:36] <Aria> II is variable 38 (assuming 29 character alphabet)
[10:24:45] <Aria> Okay so reading the rest of this email
[10:25:04] <Aria> I don't think it's a collection of 1.5 and II.5, because it's a collection of six games, it says here
[10:25:25] <Bronz|work> Btw, 1.5 is not remixed, II.5 reMIX is.
[10:25:35] <Bronz|work> Because it contains re:CHAIN of memories and stuff
[10:25:55] <Aria> Including ♕ KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
[10:25:57] <Bronz|work> How about 358/2 Days
[10:26:23] <Aria> And ♕ KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD remastered cinematics)
[10:26:23] <Bronz|work> (Read three five eight days over two)
[10:27:12] <Aria> Since 358/2 is an equation, I think the main title is also an equation
[10:27:26] <Bronz|work> Ah, that makes sense.
[10:27:33] <Aria> Also pay attention to the bit after the parenthesis.
[10:27:41] <Aria> That's a patch. They issued a patch as a new game
[10:28:25] <Aria> Also ♕ KINGDOM HEARTS Re:coded
[10:28:33] <Aria> Is that Kingdom Hearts 1, but remake?
[10:28:42] <Aria> Because Kingdom Hearts 1 is in this as Final Mix
[10:29:12] <Aria> Is that how they got past the final name? "Ah shit, I wasn't done with that game." "Sorry Steve, says final. Can't change it after it says final"
[10:29:36] <Aria> "Whatever, I'll just make a new Kingdom Hearts 1, with blackjack and hookers"
[10:29:53] <Bronz|work> ... Oh no
[10:30:06] <Bronz|work> that would be terrible, what if there's multiple KH1's
[10:30:15] <Bronz|work> Each with it's own continueity?
[10:30:48] <Bronz|work> It's be like Marvel, except none of them are stand-alone?
[10:33:20] <Aria> The current Humble Bundle is really good, but I already own all the games and don't care so much about the books
[10:33:26] <Aria> I should buy this as a gift
[10:35:14] <Bronz|work> The Freedom bundle?
[10:35:18] <Aria> Yes
[10:35:38] <Bronz|work> There's quite a lot on there.
[10:35:51] <Bronz|work> Also, what are you doing ellipsis?
[10:36:11] <Bronz|work> You can't just put "Freedom edition" on your cover, that's not how that works.
[10:37:04] <Aria> Man I want a working tab key so bad.
[10:37:47] <Aria> Wait, that's not DRM free!?
[10:37:50] <Aria> The fuck is that
[10:38:00] <Bronz|work> 's not the only one.
[10:38:13] <Aria> Wait most of these are not what the fuck!?
[10:42:44] <Aria> Ubisoft got Katsuhiro Harada to interview Darklorde about For Honour
[10:44:01] <Aria> I figured they picked him because he speaks English and there was no one at Ubisoft who spoke French or English, but he's doing the interview in Japanese, and then Darklorde is answering in English.
[10:44:23] <Aria> I mean, it's cool, but why did they get Harada? What's his relation to the game?
[10:44:46] <Aria> (He's a Namco Bandai guy, doesn't work at Ubisoft)
[10:44:51] <Aria> (He's the Tekken guy)
[10:45:10] <Aria> Also why isn't the For Honour guy answering in French if it's going to be subtitled anyway?
[10:47:57] <Aria> Oooh..
[10:48:03] <Aria> I might've misunderstood this video
[10:48:22] <Aria> Darklorde is interviewing Harada about what he thought about the game, not the other way about what the game is going to be
[10:53:25] <Bronz|work> Ah ok.
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[11:47:00] <Bronz|work> Hello!
[11:47:21] <Aria> Where did you go?
[11:48:22] <Bronz|work> I logged out of linux
[11:48:26] <Bronz|work> By accident.
[11:48:47] <Aria> ctrl alt del?
[11:50:08] <Bronz|work> Crtl + Shift + Backspace, I think.
[11:52:19] <Bronz|work> So, how's it hanging here?
[11:52:39] <Aria> Premiere keeps crashing when I try to render
[11:56:01] <Bronz|work> Ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:56:43] <Bronz|work> They bought in some boxes of chocolate at work...
[11:56:47] <Bronz|work> For valentines day.
[11:56:59] <Aria> Did you get any?
[11:58:13] <Bronz|work> So far they're laying on the desk ^ there.
[11:58:32] <Aria> Your co workers have bad taste
[11:58:41] <Aria> They should all ask to be your valentine.
[11:58:48] <Bronz|work> =P
[12:33:48] <Aria> Okay I think I worked out my crashing issue
[12:56:35] <Aria> What is wrong with his shirt? https://youtu.be
[12:56:40] <Aria> (You Don't need sound)
[12:56:53] <Aria> (Also the shirt is visible in the first second)
[13:00:22] <Apsup> It's made out of plastic?
[13:02:27] <Aria> I don't think shirts should be made out of plastic.
[13:06:51] <Bronz|work> that shirt looks like leather?
[13:07:01] <Aria> It looks bad is what it does!
[13:07:20] <Bronz|work> Oh, well, I feel it doesn't look worse than the rest of it?
[13:07:32] <Aria> =P
[13:08:31] <Aria> There's a Splatoon 2 testfire during March
[13:08:36] <Aria> Which is next month
[13:08:47] <Aria> But Splatoon 2 is not on a console that's out
[13:09:14] <Bronz|work> Good thing there's a console in march that will be able to play it!
[13:10:09] <Aria> I mean, yeah
[13:10:30] <Aria> But its weird to do a beta when most of the install base of the console isn't available yet
[13:10:51] <Aria> Also Conan Exiles apparently cost around 9m USD to make
[13:11:13] <Aria> More than I expected
[13:18:03] <Aria> Heavy Rain has poorly animated kissing
[13:41:09] <Aria> ..
[13:41:23] <Aria> That new Zelda game
[13:41:27] <Aria> Isn't--
[13:41:29] <Aria> Yknow
[13:41:37] <Aria> Releasing like a god damn Nintendo Zelda game
[13:42:04] <Aria> It's gonna have a season pass with more dungeon and shit being added later
[13:42:15] <Aria> So the game effectively got delayed in terms of when I get to play it
[13:42:23] <Aria> God fucking damn it
[13:45:34] <Aria> Holyday 2017
[13:45:46] <Bronz|work> Whaaaat?
[13:45:47] <Aria> Why did you have to die, Iwata?!
[13:46:28] <Aria> They will add "hard difficulty" in Summer 2017
[13:48:10] <Bronz|work> 0_0
[13:48:20] <Aria> It's also for pay
[13:48:44] <Aria> Nintendo, I don't mind paying more.
[13:49:08] <Aria> Like, if you can't stay competitive making Nintendo games, just start charging a premium for them
[13:49:46] <Aria> Don't do this staggered release bullshit
[13:53:50] <Aria> I should note, I'm also fine with waiting
[13:54:01] <Aria> Like, I can play the new Zelda in Holyday 2017, that's fine
[13:54:10] <Aria> But don't tell me 2 weeks before I think I get to play it
[14:23:49] <Aria> Retiming the subtitles worked brilliantly
[14:24:20] <Aria> Now lets see if it gets tagged by the copyright bo
[14:24:21] <Aria> t
[14:24:44] <Bronz|work> Ok.
[14:25:04] <Aria> You just select all the subtitles
[14:25:16] <Aria> Go to the frame where the first one of them first appears and hit alt M
[14:25:19] <Aria> everything after then works
[14:25:52] <Bronz|work> Ah, well, that sounds pretty easy
[14:39:43] <Aria> (Zato) Ichi cuts a guy four times before he hits the ground
[14:39:47] <Aria> It's pretty great
[15:32:58] <Bronz|work> Ok, allowed to go home now
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