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[07:33:50] <Aria> Hi
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[07:47:24] <Apsup> Morning. You up early.
[08:09:39] <Aria_> Never slept.
[08:09:49] <Aria_> I tried, but yknow, didn't work
[08:10:41] <Aria_> Also this ad reads "Are you a student and dreaming of an apartment?" and ends in it costing 9 million.
[08:10:49] <Aria_> (Crowns not euros)
[08:15:57] <Aria_> Also I found this tweet amusing https://twitter.com
[08:18:40] <Apsup> I've gotten my sleep schedule at good spot this week. But it's lan-party weekend, so it might get little screwed again.
[08:23:54] <Bronz|work> Good morning!
[08:24:17] <Aria_> Hi
[08:25:29] <Aria_> Dragons Dogma PC 12 euro, comes with like 6 other games, including one that you can't ever buy ever again unless you get it now
[08:26:15] <Bronz|work> Maybe we should buy that humble monthly...
[08:26:23] <Aria_> I meant for Apsup
[08:33:10] <Apsup> Where?
[08:33:19] <Aria_> Humble Monthly
[08:33:38] <Bronz|work> C'mon, I smoothly even name-dropped it!
[08:33:40] <Bronz|work> Geeze
[08:34:06] <Apsup> I assumed it was only tangentually related.
[08:35:23] <Bronz|work> Ok, next time, I'll be "Oh, you're saying Apsup might wish to purchase Humble Monthly (tm)"
[08:51:54] <Apsup> That might work.
[09:55:11] <Aria_> >.> https://www.reddit.com
[09:57:48] <Aria_> I like this comment that says H├Žstkuk is a common Norwegian name.
[09:59:46] <Bronz|work> That's dangeriously close to Hest kuk.
[10:00:03] <Aria_> Aha.
[10:08:41] <Aria_> Todays Ubisoft calender gift is "75% off games in the store"
[10:09:17] <Aria_> Would be a good deal, except litterally none of these games are 75% off, and getting the calender gift didn't even activate anything, it's just a link to the store
[10:09:46] <Bronz|work> ...
[10:10:03] <Bronz|work> that's pretty dumb.
[10:10:19] <Aria_> Watch Dogs 1 is 10 bucks I guess
[10:10:41] <Bronz|work> If they had said "10 games for 10 bucks" and they had games like W_D 1, etc, that'd be great.
[10:10:44] <Aria_> Assassins Creed 1 is 66% off
[10:10:54] <Bronz|work> Why not 75!
[10:11:57] <Aria_> Ok I found one that is 75%, but you have to hit "Load more items" after reaching the bottom of the page three times. It's the South Park game
[10:12:12] <Aria_> Far Cry 3 also 75% off
[10:13:53] <Aria_> Special edition Assassin Creed Unity is 70 euro. I feel like we paid 30 like a month after it came out
[10:17:59] <Aria_> Did you watch that Majora fan made CG short, Apsup?
[10:19:07] <Aria_> Kadokawa are doing manga awards
[10:19:08] <Aria_> Or rather
[10:20:03] <Aria_> Their new app (website?) has a thing at the top of each catagory where it says "Best <catagory> and that takes you to a specific manga, so it might as well be awards
[10:20:15] <Apsup> yes I did see it.
[10:20:43] <Aria_> The best drama is "Hero ha nemuranai", best horror "Boku no imouto ha bakamono desu"
[10:21:38] <Aria_> What did you think?
[10:21:46] <Aria_> I didn't like it at all
[10:22:28] <Aria_> I mean, it was very well made, don't get me wrong
[10:23:50] <Aria_> But I didn't like the designs, and I epscially didn't like the--- yknow, actual short
[10:24:02] <Aria_> Pacing, editing, framing
[10:26:42] <Aria_> The Vectrex guy I watch on YouTube does 3D 4K videos, where professionals like giant bomb didn't even do 1080/60 until like two weeks ago
[10:28:15] <Aria_> Mostly I think Giant Bomb does a bad job.
[10:28:49] <Apsup> Youtube has way more money than Giant Bomb guys. Bandwitch isn't free.
[10:29:07] <Aria_> YouTube supports unlisted videos
[10:29:17] <Bronz|work> Giantbomb also uses Youtube.
[10:29:17] <Aria_> And ad-free videos
[10:31:36] <Aria_> Also YouTube has better compression than Giant Bomb. They could save on bandwith/improve clarity by using vp9
[10:34:19] <Aria_> If they don't want to use YouTube, they should offer features YouTube doesn't have, such as two seperate video feeds and js client side layout adjusting/audio mixing
[10:36:12] <Aria_> Man Spectrums are expensive. 200~USD on ebay
[10:36:19] <Aria_> I expected 40
[11:28:52] <Aria_> I really like the look of this art http://rakuma.r10s.jp
[11:28:59] <Aria_> I wonder how it was done
[11:29:06] <Aria_> Maybe it was drawn?
[11:29:29] <Bronz|work> Hmmm...
[11:29:34] <Bronz|work> No, I think it's digital.
[11:29:46] <Aria_> But its pretty old
[11:30:02] <Bronz|work> Yeah, definetly.
[11:30:05] <Aria_> I mean, obviously CG is nothing new, it's the cover for a 3d game
[11:30:18] <Aria_> But still, I think stylized rendering was pretty new
[11:30:27] <Aria_> And they pulled it off very nicely even for today
[11:41:25] <Aria_> There are bike locks that stay on the bike?
[11:41:38] <Aria_> Like, you turn a key, the bike works, remove the key, bike locks up?
[11:41:57] <Aria_> That sounds great, why do we use those garbabe rope-y ones?
[11:43:27] <Bronz|work> Those locks do exist, most common type in the Netherlands.
[11:43:36] <Bronz|work> They don't stop your bike from being picked up though.
[11:51:23] <Aria_> I keep seeing this great gifs from FF15 where cutscenes play while the world is still simulating
[11:53:29] <Aria_> these* multiple
[12:08:22] <Aria_> If I was making The Matrix 3, I would lean heavily on the glitching angle
[12:09:10] <Aria_> Yknow that scene (the entire movie) where Neo and Smith are fighting and they are flying and punching each other at a million miles an hour like the Marvel movies where they just go flying but never get hurt?
[12:09:48] <Aria_> Ok, imagine instead if like, Smith punched Neo, he flew back, collided with a thing (skyscraper), then like, slid off and kept his momentum like in Smash
[12:10:18] <Bronz|work> Aaah, yes.
[12:11:07] <Aria_> Neo lunges forward to punch Smith, clips through the ground, the matrix makes room and carves out a bit of the ground and tries to spawn debree, but like, it's just random stuff. Cats and flowers and things
[12:12:05] <Aria_> That scene where they punch each other and there are shockwaves, you do that, a bunch of buildings break, then the chunck they are in gets unloaded and rolled back like 10 seconds to before shock waves
[12:12:35] <Aria_> A bunch of agents spawn in for a few seconds, see Smith "oh ok it's cool now" and despawn
[12:43:56] <Bronz|work> You should totally make a Matrix movie/game
[12:44:19] <Aria_> Go tell Warner
[12:53:38] <Aria_> Look at this mess https://www.reddit.com
[12:53:54] <Aria_> Take note it's labled as "Discussion"
[12:59:28] <Aria_> Gameindustry.biz is running stories on poor game performance
[13:00:41] <Aria_> But everyone is boasting about record high digital AAA sales. Should it not be evident that the drop in retail is offset by the digital?
[13:05:59] <Apsup> Probably. But that doesn't make gamestop and other retailers happy.
[13:06:44] <Apsup> But when has industry managed to adopt on changing world in timely manner. There is always some cog in the machine that grinds against evolution.
[13:08:38] <Aria_> What's the split between gamestop and curreys/mediamarkt type stores for games hardware?
[13:09:05] <Aria_> Like, should you still priortize keeping Gamestop happy in 2016?
[13:09:48] <Apsup> Not sure.
[13:10:32] <Apsup> But I feel that there still is significant amount of people who don't follow gaming news, or reviews or anything and just occasionally go to gamestop and ask for latest FIFA/Call of Duty/Other yearly franchice they like.
[13:10:48] <Apsup> And maybe spot some adds on some upcoming big AAA games and then pre-order those.
[13:10:57] <Aria_> Just anecdotally I don't think I've bought anything from a gamestop type store that wasn't a used game. And even that is probably 6 or 7 years ago at this point
[13:11:13] <Apsup> I bought my PS4 from gamestop.
[13:11:38] <Aria_> See, that's the premise I'm questioning. Wouldn't those people not know to go to gamesstop, but instead buy Fifa at cdon or whatever?
[13:11:40] <Apsup> Though I had planned to get it used, but new one with some games was pretty much as good of a deal as used one.
[13:12:43] <Aria_> I feel like Gamesstop's customer base is larlgely people who are into games more than the average
[13:13:10] <Aria_> Did you get a Slim?
[13:13:17] <Apsup> Nope.
[13:13:29] <Aria_> Is Slim not cheaper?
[13:14:27] <Apsup> Maybe now, but I got me PS4 before slim came out.
[13:14:58] <Aria_> Ah ok
[13:15:01] <Apsup> I could and maybe should have waited for the launch of slim and neo and could have probably gotten used old model way cheaper.
[13:15:19] <Aria_> Yeah cause it's just a few weeks ago now, right?
[13:15:56] <Apsup> It's out already.
[13:16:07] <Apsup> Oh, yea ago.
[13:16:07] <Apsup> yes
[13:16:25] <Apsup> your lack of "was" confused me.
[13:17:28] <Bronz|work> It was washed out.
[13:18:53] <Aria_> Where did we buy our PS4? I want to say the post office, but that's not right =P
[13:19:09] <Bronz|work> It was that mailorder place
[13:19:24] <Bronz|work> The one where we just walked in instead.
[13:20:37] <Aria_> Yeah, so Apsup, the story of us buying a PS4, when we should've waited and got the Neo ( >=[ ) is we went into the only place that had an Xbox Elite controller
[13:20:54] <Aria_> and they had a ad up that was like "PS4 plus one of these games this much"
[13:21:07] <Aria_> And then we tried to buy that and they were out of all the possible games
[13:21:35] <Bronz|work> I mean, we did end up getting the last of us, right?
[13:21:36] <Aria_> And instead of waiting for the Neo, we got the lady at the till to just give us a different game instead
[13:21:50] <Aria_> Yes, but that wasn't originally offered
[13:21:58] <Aria_> It was CoD, Fifa and something else
[13:22:00] <Aria_> GTA mayba
[13:22:17] <Bronz|work> No, last of us was in that list, it was just not pre-packaged
[13:22:21] <Bronz|work> It was also not our first choice
[13:23:14] <Aria_> Anyway, we wanted the xbox thing but instead got the playstation thing because there was an ad and Bronz|work doesn't have any willpower
[13:24:06] <Bronz|work> Me: http://www.precisionnutrition.com
[13:24:25] <Apsup> Not sure, but I think PS4 has slightly better library right now.
[13:24:39] <Bronz|work> Well, to be fair, we wanted the controller for PC....
[13:25:05] <Aria_> Oh yeah we don't have an Xbox
[13:25:09] <Aria_> I wanted one for the Kinect
[13:25:33] <Aria_> But given that they're barely supporting it on Xbox, I'm not expecting much in terms of Windows support
[13:25:47] <Apsup> Oh, I read the earlier linked reddit thread about "Writing untraditional characters". I think the writer forgot to add an question.
[13:26:17] <Aria_> He wrote like 5 paragraphs that can't possibly have related to his question!
[13:26:25] <Aria_> And then he forgot to add the question
[13:27:15] <Bronz|work> Yeah, it was a mess
[13:27:20] <Bronz|work> I skimmed over it, maaan
[13:27:42] <Apsup> Reads like young kid writing their first fantasy novel.
[13:28:07] <Bronz|work> Probably pretty accurate
[13:28:39] <Apsup> I think I should start moving towards downstairs for the lan-party.
[13:29:05] <Aria_> LAN party sounds nice
[13:29:06] <Aria_> Have fun
[13:29:36] <Aria_> I'm wondering if I should sleep for 3 hours or not...
[13:29:54] <Apsup> sleeping is not maybe fun, but it's good for you definitely.
[13:30:23] <Bronz|work> I dunno, Aria_'s done a lot of sleeping recently
[13:30:39] <Aria_> Define recently
[13:30:48] <Aria_> Very little in the last 24 hours
[13:31:03] <Aria_> A bunch in the last 48 hours
[13:33:56] <Bronz|work> Fair enough. I meant this week.
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[13:38:46] <Aria_> Whats that Star Trek parody movie?
[13:39:46] <Aria_> Galaxy Quest. It's Galaxy Quest.
[13:40:16] <Bronz|work> Yup.
[13:59:36] <Bronz|work> Why did you ask?
[14:00:12] <Aria_> I wanted to reference it
[14:13:57] Aria_ is now known as Aria
[14:17:35] <Bronz|work> Oh! Aria!
[14:17:42] <Aria> Hi
[14:17:46] <Bronz|work> Say, can you do some laundry or dishwasher stuff?
[14:17:52] <Aria> I was secretly Aria all along
[14:17:53] <Bronz|work> Either is fine, if you can find the time.
[14:17:54] <Aria> Um..
[14:18:01] <Aria> Ye~s...
[14:18:03] <Aria> But um..
[14:18:04] <Aria> Sleepy
[14:18:09] <Bronz|work> Ah, ok, fair enough#
[14:18:20] <Aria> Nah, I should do that
[14:25:09] <Aria> I like the Micheal Pachter's show because whenever he mentions numbers, even if he doesn't like, pretend to be accurate, try to be accurate, he's pretty accurate
[14:25:25] <Aria> Which y'know, the other people I watch are never accurate, so it's nice
[14:26:01] <Aria> When it comes to money stuff, he keeps talking about like, technical specs every chance he gets and he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about and gets everything wrong
[14:26:26] <Aria> But yknow
[14:27:57] <Bronz|work> You can tell which parts are BS, which is nice.
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[14:48:20] <Bronz|work> Hello MrBRAD
[14:49:46] <MrBRAD> not sure if bot or very dedicated to being welcoming
[14:49:53] <MrBRAD> also hello Bronz|work
[14:50:35] <Bronz|work> Definetly a bot.
[14:51:03] <Bronz|work> Acutually, I'm a little bored
[14:51:38] <Aria> Do you know how much a Tegra X1 costs?
[14:52:04] <Aria> You can get the dev kit for 300, but I'm not sure how telling that is
[15:11:30] <Aria> Hey Bronz|work I made a joke
[15:11:36] <Aria> You should go laugh at it
[15:11:45] <Aria> Its the same thread where you replied to me already
[15:11:50] <Bronz|work> Ok, sure
[15:12:37] <Bronz|work> Oh wow, amazing.
[15:12:45] <Bronz|work> Is good joke. Laughed out loud
[15:20:59] <Bronz|work> What is the potato thing you eat around sausages?
[15:21:17] <Aria> Lompe
[15:27:22] <Bronz|work> Tnx.
[15:27:44] <Bronz|work> All the Noregians were really confused when I described it.
[15:28:26] <Aria> "Like a pancake, but potato based and eaten around hot dogs"?
[15:35:24] <Bronz|work> I said "Make from potatoes and eaten around sausage. Like a tortilla but potato based?"
[15:36:38] <Aria> Ah see--
[15:36:42] <Aria> That's your fault
[15:37:02] <Bronz|work> I dunno, I felt like I touched on all the important points?
[15:48:07] <Bronz|work> Do you wanna have Therese over.
[15:48:38] <Bronz|work> Tomorrow, I mean
[15:48:42] <Aria> Tomorrow maybe
[15:48:44] <Aria> Sleepy today
[15:48:47] <Aria> Hrm..
[15:49:01] <Aria> No. But Monday would be nice
[15:50:30] <Bronz|work> She's busy monday, so we agreed to see how it goes come monday.
[15:50:41] <Aria> Ok
[16:08:35] <Aria> ...
[16:08:43] <Aria> I got a Windows notification that was an ad
[16:08:50] <Aria> It said to buy things because black friday
[16:09:03] <Bronz|work> The future is now.
[16:24:51] <Aria> So I'm still awake
[16:24:58] <Aria> Maybe I should've been modeling
[16:25:02] <Aria> Also damn I'm hungry
[16:25:12] <Bronz|work> What have you been doin'?
[16:25:20] <Aria> YouTube, reddit
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[16:38:20] <Apsup> Hi I'm back!
[16:38:53] <Aria> Hello!
[16:38:58] <Aria> No LAN?
[16:39:00] <Aria> Or is LAN over?
[16:39:15] <Apsup> I'm at the lan.
[16:39:22] <Bronz|work> Hi LANsup
[16:39:22] <Apsup> We have internet access too.
[16:39:43] <Aria> Ah. You should play Tribes. That's a game I always want to play but don't have enough players for
[16:39:46] <Aria> You need two.
[16:40:09] <Bronz|work> Nice passive-agressive stab =)
[16:40:16] <Aria> =)
[16:40:17] <Apsup> Took me a while to get here. PC didn't want to play nice. Had issues while shutting down.
[16:40:39] <Aria> I thought you said it was 'down stairs'
[16:40:40] <Apsup> So it took me while to go though all kinds of trouble shoothing stuff. Not sure if that was reason, but disk check found errors.
[16:41:06] <Apsup> It's next door. Basically down the stars and few meters to the building.
[16:43:48] <Apsup> Though I'm considering leaving and going to play Tekken with my friend. Been in tekken mood lately and most people are playing that one sandbox factory game that I don't have.
[16:44:08] <Bronz|work> Factorio?
[16:44:22] <Bronz|work> It's DRM free, so you can just copy it from one of your friends.
[16:44:47] <Bronz|work> I'm watching some guys play it right now on youtube.
[16:45:04] <Aria> You also need your friends mod folder
[16:45:12] <Aria> I don't like that game a lot though
[16:45:17] <Aria> And I don't think Tekken is out?
[16:46:37] <Apsup> Tekken has been out since 1992 or 3 4? 5? Something like that.
[16:47:15] <Aria> 5.
[16:47:22] <Aria> (Home console)
[16:47:30] <Aria> But I mean, are you going to play old tekken?
[16:47:35] <Aria> Because old tekken does not hold up
[16:47:40] <Aria> It's super slow
[16:47:58] <Aria> Or um.. you could play slightly old tekken, on PS3, as opposed to old old
[16:51:28] <Apsup> 5 Was PS2 game.
[16:51:46] <Apsup> We gonna play Tekken Tag Tournament 2, which is the newest before 7 which is the still on Arcade only one.
[16:52:13] <Aria> 1995 I meant
[16:52:22] <Apsup> I realized as soon as I answered.
[16:52:26] <Aria> =P
[16:52:38] <Apsup> I think Virtua Fighter was 92. That's what I was thinking about originally.
[16:52:56] <Aria> I haven't played Tag Tournament 2. It's on WiiU, so I considered it. But 7 will be on PC, so I decided to wait for that instead
[16:53:35] <Apsup> My friend basically got PS3 for TTT2. He is super PC master race type.
[16:54:07] <Apsup> Alternativelly he is poor and thinks PC better value for money, which it probably is.
[16:54:13] <Aria> I wonder if people think of me as a PC master race type. I think PC gaming is awful and no one should do it
[16:54:15] <Apsup> Or definitely is.
[16:54:39] <Bronz|work> You are 100% a PC master race person.
[16:54:55] <Bronz|work> Because you say "Console gaming sucks, look at this aliasing. At least on PC, I can brute force it"
[16:54:56] <Apsup> Still TTT2 is fun enough and skills from it will translate somewhat for Tekken 7.
[16:55:29] <Aria> I mean, that's true. I will not play on console most of the time. PC or bust, for sure
[16:55:40] <Aria> But other people who can't see no good should always play on PC
[16:56:12] <Aria> See-- ok, so I like the good things on PC, but I think steam is trash, and I think the way windows applications are set up is trash for PC
[16:56:40] <Aria> Maybe UWP can make PC a good experience, but so far it seems common PC-ass problems of not supporting wide range of hardware is keeping that from being the case
[16:56:48] <Bronz|work> No, see, that just makes you a PC elitist.
[16:57:18] <Aria> "is trash for games"*
[16:57:42] <Apsup> So in the end everything sucks for different reasons.
[16:57:48] <Apsup> Meanwhile I just play games.
[16:58:03] <Aria> Wii U, generally good
[16:58:10] <Aria> Gamecube, generally good
[16:58:16] <Aria> Notice trend?
[16:58:35] <Aria> Well its not so much the consoles as it's Nintendo as a game maker
[17:00:03] <Bronz|work> okbye
[17:00:12] <Aria> Yeah
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