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[06:47:05] <Aria> Why does the radiator by the computers have input and output?
[06:48:51] <Bronz|work> Input is how much it should heat up, and output is how much of that heat should be sent into the world
[06:49:04] <Bronz|work> You can set the output to 0 during the night, and then open it up in the morning.
[06:49:13] <Bronz|work> And vice-versa with input.
[06:49:25] <Bronz|work> (So during cheap electricity hours, you heat it up)
[06:53:06] <Bronz|work> Look at how cool this guy is: http://begasuslu.deviantart.com
[06:54:29] <Aria> He's okay at best
[06:54:55] <Aria> Though eye scar and eye patch are a good combo
[06:57:26] <Aria> 3d Power Drift is so 3D
[06:57:33] <Aria> Its the most 3D game I've seen
[06:58:34] <Bronz|work> Oh?
[06:59:33] <Aria> Its got many layers
[07:00:32] <Bronz|work> Oh, I see what you're saying.
[07:03:15] <Aria> In Japan you can buy frozen noodle soup
[07:03:59] <Aria> Its got a block of frozen soup at the bottom and noodles and meats and things on top, so when you put it on the stove, the liquid melts into the bowl and you don't need to add water
[07:04:17] <Aria> I thought that was cool
[07:04:36] <Bronz|work> That is pretty cool
[07:21:16] <Bronz|work> I could see that being super useful if you don't have access to water for some reason.
[07:21:22] <Bronz|work> You can just hold it over a fire for a bit.
[07:21:46] <Aria> Yeah but would you have access to freezing temps?
[07:25:38] <Aria> The audio ducking is getting really annoying..
[07:42:38] <Aria> What's Bathesda done now?
[07:43:14] <Bronz|work> They're making Skyrim for the Switch, right?
[07:43:24] <Bronz|work> Is that not the biggest Bethesta news in recent history?
[07:43:37] <Aria> Yeah, but they're doing something Jeff Gertsmann is mad about
[07:44:36] <Aria> Also, the Dishonored 2 steam store page has a heading for reviews, and then everything under there is quotes from E3 coverage of their demo
[07:57:18] <Bronz|work> Ah, that's no good.
[08:43:27] <Bronz|work> €2 RyanAir tickets: https://www.ryanair.com
[08:43:30] <Bronz|work> They're all one-way though
[08:44:58] <Aria> So going to London for drinks after work is cheaper than the bus?
[08:45:08] <Bronz|work> London is not in the list, but yes
[08:45:25] <Aria> Oh from Cork
[08:45:32] <Aria> Fine, Frankfurt then
[08:45:49] <Aria> Oh hey, Eindhoven is on there
[08:45:57] <Bronz|work> Yup.
[08:46:12] <Aria> Anyway that's great
[08:47:18] <Bronz|work> That's a lot cheaper than the Aerlingus trips...
[08:49:28] <Aria> Valve as an argument for translating your game to Chinese said that "Asia is the third largest market for Steam right now"
[08:50:43] <Aria> Which would sound impressive, if you don't think about the fact that Asia is all of Asia
[08:51:54] <Bronz|work> yeah...
[08:52:06] <Bronz|work> Can't they split the market up by what language they speak?
[08:52:38] <Bronz|work> 'course, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[08:52:46] <Bronz|work> No chinese games means nobody buys them, of course
[08:54:19] <Aria> Wait so is Asia bigger than Russia?
[08:55:13] <Aria> And is that in money or is that in users? Because I believe you have a lot of Asian Dota players, but you probably have more players than revenue with Dota
[09:04:18] <Bronz|work> Well, Russia doesn't actually have that many people in it.
[09:04:24] <Bronz|work> Sure it's big, but it's also fairly empty
[09:05:10] <Bronz|work> 144 m vs 1.3 b
[09:05:17] <Bronz|work> That's like, 10x as much.
[09:05:39] <Aria> Well yeah, but Russia loves steam
[09:05:50] <Bronz|work> They love NOSteam
[09:07:31] <Bronz|work> Countries scaled to population size: http://i.imgur.com
[09:07:58] <Bronz|work> (That green one is China)
[09:08:28] <Aria> Italy has 58m people!?
[09:08:51] <Aria> The rest seems about how you'd expect
[09:09:03] <Aria> China looks a bit small, no?
[09:09:33] <Bronz|work> A little... India is bigger than expected too.
[09:45:34] <Bronz|work> How's the food, btw?
[09:55:08] <Aria> Very good, how could you tell I was eating it?
[09:55:14] <Aria> There isn't much left though
[09:55:48] <Aria> Also, Dice artists spend on average 2 weeks per 3D asset (4 days with photogrammetry)
[09:57:20] <Bronz|work> That's quite a lot.
[09:57:39] <Aria> 5 days sculpting, 3 days making proxy mesh, 2 days unwrapping(??), 2 days texturing and 1 day importing. I feel that texturing time should be longer, and maybe everything else shorter
[10:00:59] <Bronz|work> Especially importing...
[10:02:01] <Aria> Importing means importing, realizing you fucked up and then going back to fix it, rather than it takes a day for the progress bar to fill up
[10:02:54] <Aria> And their estimate for photogrammetry workflow is 2 hours from when you think its done to when its in editor
[10:04:02] <Aria> What are you wearing?! http://www.topogun.com
[10:06:28] <Bronz|work> Good question...
[10:06:39] <Bronz|work> Does she have a tattoo gun stapled to her arm?
[10:08:27] <Aria> To keep her tattoos up to date
[10:36:26] <Aria> Their backgrounds are about 70k faces he says
[10:39:45] <Aria> As in, the low poly world beyond the map bounds
[10:46:53] <Bronz|work> Oh that's actually a lot then.
[10:48:22] <Aria> Yeah I was surprised as well
[10:48:43] <Aria> That was for Battlefront. For BF4 its a lot less. Like 7k maybe
[10:51:58] <Aria> They had a problem for 'a very long time' where Hoth was too bright, so their post eye-correction would lower the exposure to where things looked good
[10:52:35] <Aria> So assets would appear too dark, and people would boost the brightness of their assests to compensate, increasing the emissive and further making the map too bright
[10:58:57] <Bronz|work> Heh.
[10:59:23] <Aria> So then stuff that was added earlier will be darker
[11:00:50] <Aria> They use Mari?
[11:01:04] <Aria> But Mari 1500 euro per desk!
[11:02:38] <Aria> I mean, they work on these games for a long time, so 1500 isn't that much, but given how much free stuff they mentioned in the video, I would expect them to use Substance or Mudbox or something
[11:21:47] <Aria> The trees at the base are high poly, but above 10m they are "basically a six sided cylinder"
[11:22:16] <Aria> For comparison, these are the trees in question https://media.starwars.ea.com
[11:22:23] <Aria> They look amazing
[11:34:00] <Bronz|work> That's very true
[11:34:10] <Bronz|work> I don't actually know what mari does
[11:36:12] <Aria> Its a texturing tool
[11:36:25] <Bronz|work> Ah yeah.
[11:36:26] <Aria> But it doesn't.. do anything special
[11:36:37] <Bronz|work> You talked about it at one point.
[11:36:37] <Aria> Its just been out for a very long time and has good UX
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[11:44:35] <Bronz|work> hi Apsup!
[11:45:17] <Apsup> Hello
[11:49:37] <Bronz|work> "I think that Local Multiplayer is, by far, the best feature of the Switch."
[11:49:56] <Bronz|work> Yeah, like EVERY nintendo console, ever?
[12:03:16] <Apsup> At least there is a company that cares about local multiplayer.
[12:03:35] <Bronz|work> True, Local multiplayer is the best multiplayer
[12:04:26] <Bronz|work> I wonder if the Switch will have some sort of HDMI out that doesn't require a dock.
[12:04:35] <Bronz|work> So I can bring it over to a friend's house, and easily plug it in.
[12:05:57] <Apsup> Dunno. I'd assume no.
[12:16:49] <Bronz|work> Why not though?
[12:20:58] <Apsup> Because hopefully Nintendo wants to optimize the space usage inside of that thing, and extra HDMI port when there already is dock for that would be kinda waste.
[12:22:09] <Bronz|work> Micro HDMI doesn't take that much space.
[12:22:59] <Bronz|work> http://www.mega.pk
[12:28:42] <Aria> Man
[12:28:46] <Aria> I was ready to do some work
[12:28:59] <Aria> But then my parents called and I was stuck in a 6 hour skype call
[12:30:09] <Bronz|work> Maybe pretend you have somewhere to go, at a certain time?
[12:30:33] <Bronz|work> And then be like "Oh, I need to go prepare", and then fetch some shoes/a coat.
[12:30:39] <Bronz|work> And then they'll get the hint?
[12:32:56] <Aria> They'll call my phone and "talk to me on the way"
[12:33:18] <Bronz|work> Nah, too pricy
[12:33:55] <Bronz|work> And you just say "Ok", walk around 5 minutes outside (near the noisiest car road you can find), and then go "I'm hanging up now, going into a store".
[12:34:00] <Bronz|work> And then you do the hang-up.
[12:41:01] <Aria> =)
[13:36:45] <Bronz|work> Work people keep trying to invite me to quiz night at the pub.
[13:36:49] <Bronz|work> I don't enjoy pubs?
[14:10:11] <Aria> Might still enjoy the quiz
[14:10:17] <Aria> Also its because they want to win
[14:10:26] <Aria> and you'll win the quiz for them
[14:10:30] <Bronz|work> Yeah, true enough.
[14:10:46] <Bronz|work> They also wanna see Dr. strange before the quiz
[14:11:30] <Aria> That's because they want someone to ask lore questions
[14:11:36] <Aria> And you'll be asked all the lore questions.
[14:13:59] <Bronz|work> What's the difference between å stenge and å lukke?
[14:15:03] <Aria> Thats tough because English only has the one word
[14:15:12] <Aria> seal vs close?
[14:15:41] <Bronz|work> Hmm, Therese said they were identidal, but I got the impression she didn't think hard about it.
[14:29:15] <Bronz|work> https://www.reddit.com
[14:29:18] <Bronz|work> This looks familliar...
[14:29:48] <Aria> Go home
[14:30:23] <Bronz|work> Oh, ok.
[16:22:04] <Apsup> That game exsists.
[16:22:18] <Apsup> Though that seems to be old link too.
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