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[07:36:47] <Bronz|work> Good morning.
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[08:00:27] <Bronz|work> Hi Apsup!
[08:01:29] <Apsup> Morning.
[08:01:56] <Apsup> Was woken up by saleswoman.
[08:02:04] <Bronz|work> =/
[08:02:16] <Apsup> Almost got me to consider getting a tablet and 4G mobile net for it.
[08:02:20] <Apsup> But decided not to.
[08:02:45] <Apsup> 24€ a month is bit much for my poor student life.
[08:03:03] <Apsup> Like, I probably could afford it, but I still would feel it.
[08:03:10] <Bronz|work> Hmm, yeah.
[08:03:22] <Bronz|work> Also, probably best not to be sold on the phone?
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[10:46:31] <Aria> Morning
[10:48:21] <Bronz|work> Hi aria
[10:48:31] <Bronz|work> They've giving out free icecream at work.
[10:49:38] <Aria> Thats nice, but icecream melts..
[10:50:06] <Bronz|work> Ah, they have an icecream machine here.
[10:50:15] <Bronz|work> So for the next 2 hours or so, I can go get icecreams.
[10:50:23] <Bronz|work> if you show up, I'll give you one as well
[10:50:27] <Bronz|work> (I have 2 coupons)
[10:50:51] <Aria> =P
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[12:24:14] <Bronz|work> Hi Apsup
[12:24:28] <Aria> Oh hey
[12:24:31] <Aria> Where were you?
[12:24:39] <Apsup> napping.
[12:24:46] <Aria> Thats even worse than me
[12:25:39] <Bronz|work> Man, I could go for a nap
[12:28:51] <Aria> This guy on youtube is being sued
[12:29:15] <Apsup> oh noo
[12:29:21] <Apsup> did he crime?
[12:30:10] <Bronz|work> Did he fraud, maybe?
[12:30:19] <Aria> So he made a video where he was like "Here's how you download a video off of youtube. Obviously check if its legal, it probably isn't, but I don't know. Anyway, there is a non-zero chance that all my videos will be removed tomorrow, statisically, so there's that"
[12:31:18] <Aria> He was being super obvious =P I don't think the NDA people will be happy with his level of vagueness
[12:34:26] <Bronz|work> Oh, he broke an NDA?
[12:34:53] <Aria> I don't know, but since he never said with words he is being sued, or that you should download HIS videos
[12:35:06] <Aria> I assume he is under NDA that prevents him from saying he is being sued and the videos are going away
[12:35:23] <Aria> But he pretty much said it straight out in such a way that no one would be satisfied
[12:35:45] <Bronz|work> Ah, you're infering.
[12:46:18] <Aria> Some guy made a cross over of the Gintama ending song and Dark Souls
[12:46:48] <Aria> Which is cool
[12:46:52] <Aria> But I'm not big into Gintama
[12:47:05] <Aria> So maybe I should do the same, but with Hokuto no Ken or something
[12:47:27] <Aria> (Since I want to practice animating)
[12:52:30] <Aria> This guy made a thing where if you buy Just Cause 3 and Homefront the new one for money, you can use your legit authentication and go online once, and then afterwards play those games without using Steam offline
[12:53:13] <Aria> Until you run Windows updates or change hardware, but still lasts longer than 24 hours with Steam offline mode that those games support
[12:56:30] <Bronz|work> I know Juist Cause 3 had some issues with it's online authentication
[12:56:36] <Bronz|work> Where it was laggy and whatnot
[13:06:55] <Aria> Here's that guy from earlier https://youtu.be It's a pretty entertaining video even if you don't care about iphone data recovery. Nothing happens in the video other than the guy and his grandma working on a iphone, I feel like I need to be careful not to oversell this video
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[13:22:32] <Bronz|work> Heeeey! wuzzup pegu.
[13:22:45] <Aria> Is that Pengu?
[13:22:55] <Aria> Oh yeah
[13:22:55] <Aria> Hello
[13:23:01] <Aria> Did you give Kamen Rider a shot?
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[13:28:23] <Bronz|work> I was very sceptical for a moment, thinking we might get spammed again.
[13:28:54] <Aria> Did he spam us last time?
[13:29:10] <Bronz|work> Not Pegu, no.
[13:29:22] <Bronz|work> But sajattack__ sounded like a suspicious guy.
[13:29:32] <Aria> Fair enough
[13:34:17] <Aria> I think I'm safe in terms of EA for the day
[13:35:01] <Bronz|work> Hasn't it opened yet?
[13:35:25] <Aria> It did
[13:35:32] <Bronz|work> https://www.google.co.uk
[13:35:35] <Aria> Just barely higher than closing
[13:35:37] <Bronz|work> Not up to date with today's information
[13:35:47] <Aria> Also yey, I earned 20eur on gold in litterally 3 seconds
[13:36:05] <Bronz|work> (y)
[13:38:00] <Aria> EA has earned 100eur since opening
[13:38:14] <Aria> Which is not bad. I might be profitable on Monday
[13:42:38] <Bronz|work> Remember, like, 3 days ago when you were all "I'm going to lose ALL my EA money! T_T"
[13:42:49] <Bronz|work> And I was all "You should sell now before it gets worse" and then it got worse?
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[13:44:30] <Aria> Hello again
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[13:58:59] <Aria> I want to play this new Uncharted
[13:59:14] <Aria> And Bloodborne
[13:59:25] <Aria> But I feel like I should wait for the PS4 Neo
[13:59:55] <Aria> Which is a pretty shitty thing, since I've used my regular PS4 once =P
[14:00:02] <Aria> Or a couple of times, but only to play one game
[14:00:06] <Apsup> Only reason I see for waiting that would be if the regular PS4 price goes down with it.
[14:01:14] <Aria> I already have a PS4. I have Last of Us HD which I played, and Bloodborne, which I have not started, and I played the Nioh demo
[14:01:21] <Apsup> altervativelly I might get used one. Bound to be cheper than brand new.
[14:01:32] <Aria> And I do not want to play more PS4 games, because they are all very aliased
[14:01:45] <Apsup> Get worse eyes.
[14:01:53] <Aria> Do you want to buy mine when I buy a Neo?
[14:02:02] <Apsup> Play only PS 1 games for a year and you'll be fine with anything current gen has.
[14:02:17] <Apsup> I probably want PS4 before neo comes out.
[14:02:47] <Aria> Do you also want a 1080p 47 inch LG TV that has been sitting in the storage room for a year?
[14:03:01] <Apsup> I probably couldn't afford that.
[14:03:25] <Apsup> Also, I probably need to also get PS4 fightstick, which upps the price considerably.
[14:03:32] <Bronz|work> Shipping's gonna be a little high, I bet.
[14:03:46] <Aria> You couldn't afford the shipping, but the TV I'll sell for a few hundred
[14:03:52] <Aria> Yes, that
[14:04:09] <Apsup> Shippin' is pain. We need to develope teleporters and fast.
[14:05:31] <Aria> Also, all the games I play are on gamecube and WiiU, and yet they don't have the problems PS4 games have
[14:07:26] <Bronz|work> That's partially coz you play them on your PC.
[14:08:49] <Aria> No Smash 4 on PC
[14:09:11] <Aria> Doesn't drop a frame for no one!
[14:09:23] <Aria> Actually that's not true, it drops frames like ten times per match
[14:09:42] <Aria> But it's nothing compared to the PS4 menu =P
[14:33:31] <Apsup> Danganronpa (2) is not optimal for my name memory. Even when the game has a easily checkable who-is-who character list I tend to get confused "who was that again".
[14:35:12] <Aria> Do they all have regular Japanese names?
[14:35:31] <Apsup> Almost all.
[14:36:00] <Apsup> as far as I know. I couldn't tell a normal Japanese name from fake, but japanese sounding name.
[14:38:55] <Aria> Yeah, but like, no ones name is like Tetsumaru Yabou
[14:41:20] <Aria> Also why is it I can't find any videos on youtube of 3d models undressing, but I can find a million videos of real people undressing sexily?
[14:41:41] <Aria> The first one is super useful to a bunch of people, and the other one is against their ToS
[14:42:01] <Bronz|work> Because real people undressing takes 1 minute to film
[14:42:11] <Bronz|work> Whereas animating can take like, half an hour.
[14:42:12] <Apsup> And animating 3D model undressing is way hard.
[14:42:18] <Apsup> Way more probably.
[14:42:21] <Apsup> Clothes are hard.
[14:42:23] <Bronz|work> That half an hour can be spent making actual porn instead.
[14:42:30] <Aria> Half an hour is nothing
[14:42:34] <Apsup> Well, they are not soft and that's the problem.
[14:42:46] <Apsup> *they are soft
[14:43:03] <Apsup> clothes behave in ways that are difficult to animate, that's what I'm saying.
[14:43:30] <Aria> Hey you know animation and games stuff
[14:43:42] <Aria> How do you animated undressing with no camera cuts?
[14:46:39] <Aria> Do you even bother with bones? I mean, I would weight the clothes to my characters bones for when they're worn, but seems to me like doing it by hand is easier during the actual undressing animation
[14:47:39] <Aria> For example pulling a shirt over your head, and have it flip inside out naturally
[14:47:47] <Aria> Man fuck that...
[14:48:37] <Bronz|work> Yup.
[14:48:44] <Bronz|work> Just do what the sims do.
[14:49:02] <Aria> Spin, particles, swap model?
[14:49:26] <Bronz|work> Yup.
[14:57:26] <Apsup> Traditional murder mystery problems. There is too obvious culprit, so I want to think it's a red herring, but then there is also obvious red herring already, so could it be that both are red herrings?
[14:57:44] <Apsup> Or maybe the obvious red herring is the actual culprit and the obvious culprit is red herring.
[14:58:16] <Aria> So the red herring isn't so obvious after all, since you're thinking about it
[14:58:36] <Aria> Also in that game, you can just murder whoever, right? End the game early if you're right
[14:58:38] <Aria> So murder them both!
[14:58:49] <Apsup> That's not how it works.
[14:59:12] <Aria> Oh.
[14:59:20] <Bronz|work> How much faith do you have in the writer?
[14:59:21] <Apsup> There will be a trial. And because of that I can't make final judgements yet, as I know that sometimes important clues come up during the trial itself.
[15:00:31] <Aria> I found a animation of a guy putting on cloth!
[15:00:33] <Apsup> But then there is also the fact that even if murderer is easy to figure out there are the details of the case, how did the murder happen, that might not be as clear and because of video game, everything must be figured out.
[15:01:24] <Aria> http://www.3dfiggins.com
[15:03:49] <Aria> This guy makes it look super easy https://youtu.be
[15:07:23] <Bronz|work> Today I learend that if you chest gets punched in a specific place (slightly above the heart) in a 20 ms window once every heartbeat, you could cause your heart to stop?
[15:07:41] <Bronz|work> That's... pretty shitty design.
[15:07:44] <Bronz|work> https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:26:26] <Aria> My money luck is kinda bad
[15:26:36] <Aria> Minus 400
[15:26:46] <Aria> jpy went up and gold down
[15:26:50] <Aria> (I bet opposite)
[15:29:35] <Bronz|work> Ah.
[15:33:30] <Bronz|work> Well, it should eventually fix itself! Maybe!
[15:33:40] <Aria> Its blowing very strong outside
[15:33:49] <Aria> I'm afraid of you falling over when walking home
[15:34:12] <Bronz|work> Yeah... I don't wanna miss my bus, seeing as it's also raining.
[15:41:49] <Aria> There's a new Berserk TV series?
[15:42:13] <Aria> Also they spend a lot of time on the fairy boy for not giving him genitals in this opening
[15:43:07] <Apsup> That's how it was in the manga too.
[15:43:35] <Aria> Wait really? But it has more lines per image than...
[15:43:40] <Aria> I dunno, it has many lines
[15:43:50] <Aria> How can none of them be going to genitals?
[15:44:54] <Bronz|work> Maybe the guy what drew it was not into genetals?
[15:45:35] <Aria> Grisith has a penis
[15:45:52] <Aria> And testicles
[15:46:03] <Bronz|work> Well, yeah, but he's human
[15:46:05] <Aria> The lady had pubic hair, if nothing else
[15:46:10] <Bronz|work> it'd be weird if he didn't have one.
[15:46:18] <Bronz|work> Faries can be hand-waved in that way.
[15:46:26] <Apsup> Well, now I feel stupid. Decided to put the game on harder diffuclty and almost instantly failed an trial.
[15:47:01] <Bronz|work> You suck, Apsup.
[15:47:12] <Bronz|work> Actually, almost failing is the best difficulty, isn't it?
[15:47:46] <Aria> This new Berserk... I don't like it's style
[15:48:02] <Aria> They use 2D for all the action
[15:48:07] <Aria> But then use 3D for the face closeups
[15:48:12] <Aria> Thats the opposite of what you should do
[15:48:25] <Aria> And the frame rate is somehow even worse than the 4C movies
[15:48:54] <Aria> I just want the 4C movies with full framerate
[15:49:05] <Aria> Yknow, in the way that wouldn't take any extra effort to do
[15:50:31] <Aria> Also I got that one guys name wrong
[15:50:37] <Aria> Its Griffith?
[15:51:51] <Aria> Also the new Berserk isn't actually airing on TV?
[15:51:55] <Bronz|work> yes.
[15:52:48] <Aria> It's only on wowow
[15:53:11] <Aria> So it's probably not very high budget
[15:53:23] <Aria> Wowow is a for pay Japanese streaming service
[15:53:57] <Bronz|work> You say that as if I didn't know what Wowow is!
[15:54:05] <Bronz|work> (And I didn't so thanks!)
[15:54:37] <Aria> I only know it because I'm subscribed to Japanese people on twitter
[15:55:16] <Aria> I think Code Geass was a big IP you could watch there, before it was on TV or whatever
[15:56:02] <Aria> Because I remember the commercial always being like "I know you're watching this on TV, but yknow, you could not do that, and go watch it on this website instead?"
[15:56:57] <Bronz|work> And you said "I LOVE WEBSITES! THEY'RE THE BEST!"
[15:57:05] <Bronz|work> Anyway cya, going home.
[15:57:15] <Aria> Ok, so I went to Wikipedia. Seems they do Satelite television as well. It's not just streaming. Also they did a bunch of other cartoons as well, it says here
[15:57:32] <Aria> I remember their logo in Ergo Proxy, and it says they co financed that, so there
[15:58:10] <Aria> Anyway, go home
[16:06:49] <Aria> Oh its weekend!
[16:10:08] <Apsup> In the end I wasn't stupid, but the game was. At least that's what I claim.
[16:10:38] <Apsup> Right answer made kind of sence, but I think there were other more obvious potential answers that made even more sense.
[16:11:46] <Apsup> Right answer being stupid is the second most annoying thing. Most annoying thing is when you know the answer, but don't know how to tell it to the game.
[16:13:12] <Aria> Sense
[16:13:37] <Aria> And I agree with that assessment
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[22:47:50] <Aria> Hello again Pegu
[22:48:02] <Aria> Max Velocity is a good name for a sniper
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