#geeknights | Logs for 2015-04-27

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[06:16:17] <Bronz|work> Hello again!
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[10:55:14] <Bronz|work> Hi Apsup
[11:03:35] <Apsup> Hullo.
[12:27:03] <Bronz|work> Do we have nothing left to say
[12:27:10] <Bronz|work> Question mark?
[13:25:50] <Apsup> Dunno. Maybe?
[13:26:05] <Bronz|work> How about we talk about that Steam thing with the paid mods?
[13:26:12] <Bronz|work> How does that make you feel.
[13:32:23] <Apsup> I'm conflixted. I see nothing wrong with the idea of mod makers being able to ask and earn some money off their work, but in execution I feel that it can lead to problems, not to mention that for players it's worse, as some games almost require certain mods, and being forced to pay for them would suck.
[13:33:23] <Apsup> Not to mention, as the system is right now, modders barey ever see any money off it. They get 25% and only after the mod has sold for 400$s worth. Apparently, that's how I heard it at least.
[13:34:34] <Apsup> Better system would be to have a "how much do you want to pay for this mod?" system on all mods, so if someone wants to support modder, they can, but also one can input 0$ and get it free.
[13:48:34] <Bronz|work> The way it works is the game publisher can set a percentage for the modders to get, Bethesda set it at 25%.
[13:48:45] <Bronz|work> Modders need to earn at least $100 to get a payout.
[13:48:55] <Bronz|work> So on Skyrim, that's $400 worth of sales at the moment.
[13:49:14] <Bronz|work> And while I agree, the problem with essential mods isn't that the mod might become for pay
[13:49:28] <Bronz|work> It's the game that's designed faulty so that it requires a mod.
[14:00:02] <Apsup> Sure, but there are some other issues too.
[14:01:16] <Bronz|work> True, but it's up to the mod maker for most of this stuff.
[14:01:18] <Apsup> For example, mods usually break when game is updated and they are patched later. Even if Steam gives easy way to patch mods, it doesn't change the fact that your 100$ horse texture mod does nothing after a patch in the game, until the modders care to fix their shit.
[14:01:46] <Apsup> Also, in modding there is lots of work based on other people's work and mixing money in that mess can get complicated.
[14:04:16] <Bronz|work> Yeah, that part is definetly true.
[14:04:54] <Apsup> On other news this week we have May Day and all the other days surrounding it. Basically the finish version of Sait Patriks day. Except with white hats instead of green clothes.
[14:04:57] <Bronz|work> But I feel that a lot of the less good mods will be re-created. The mods where genuine effort has been put in and are for pay, those will do well.
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[15:22:29] <Bronzdragon> Hello!
[15:23:18] <Apsup> Hello again.
[15:24:09] <Bronzdragon> Anything exciting happen?
[15:46:28] <Apsup> No.
[15:46:37] <Bronzdragon> Ok
[15:46:38] <Apsup> I think I should eat.
[15:46:56] <Bronzdragon> At some point, yeah...
[16:11:18] <Bronzdragon> Know what you're going to eat?
[16:12:28] <Apsup> Pizza is in the oven. So probably yes.
[16:12:36] <Apsup> Also my brain just went boob.
[16:13:12] <Apsup> I went "oh, right, gotta take the pizza off oven" walked in the kitchen and realized that the alarm on my phone hsn't gone off and it's not yet time to get the pizza.
[16:13:23] <Apsup> Maybe my brain is just so hungry.
[16:13:31] <Apsup> wants the food now, not later.
[16:13:53] <Bronzdragon> Hmm...
[16:15:05] <Bronzdragon> Pizza is tasty, I should get some.
[16:15:11] <Bronzdragon> I'm actually kinda hungry
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