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[16:23:38] <Coldguy> Hi all
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[16:51:40] <Churba> http://au.ign.com
[16:51:42] <Churba> Fuckyeah
[16:52:13] <Churba> I mean, it's gonna cost too much and have a very slim selection, to combine experiences with how US companies price things for this market, and UK netflix, but still, it's a fuckin' start
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[16:54:43] <Churba> I knew you
[16:54:47] <Churba> Would come crawling back
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[17:15:47] <Churba> Ey up nate
[17:16:33] <Neito> Ey, Churbs.
[17:16:34] <Neito> So
[17:16:47] <Neito> Apparently, those PAX Aus codes from riot can't be used in NA.
[17:16:59] <Churba> Aw fuck, that sucks
[17:17:09] <Churba> Sorry dude
[17:17:15] <Neito> Dun worry about it.
[17:17:32] <Neito> I still got the "Not being a dick" reward at the end of the season, so I get something fun.
[17:18:46] <Churba> Hah, that's cool
[17:19:21] <Churba> Good news - Australia is getting netflix in march next year
[17:23:26] <Neito> Nice.
[17:41:39] <GauntletWizard> GOOD MORNING
[17:41:48] <GauntletWizard> or evening or night, whatever it is where you are
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[18:09:04] <Coldguy> nice
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[19:09:46] <Apreche> If that buffalo snow go ms
[19:10:09] <Apreche> Comes to NYC...
[19:10:15] <Churba> You're not out of the woods yourself, six feet in new york by friday, I'm told
[19:10:48] <Churba> (Or at least, was told yesterday)
[19:11:43] <Apreche> The NOAA says no snow here, just cold
[19:12:01] <Churba> I don't know about you, but I recon that now's a good time of year to be come see the reef like you've been thinking.
[19:12:17] <Apreche> I agree, but it's a bit too late for that.
[19:12:37] <GauntletWizard> Anybody remember dnL?
[19:12:39] <Churba> True, true
[19:12:46] <Apreche> What is dnL?
[19:12:48] <GauntletWizard> Surge is all the rage these days
[19:13:03] <Apreche> The drink?
[19:13:03] <GauntletWizard> it was 7up... upside down!
[19:13:06] <GauntletWizard> yeah
[19:13:15] <Apreche> Oh riiight
[19:14:01] <Churba> Fun facts - DNL is also Daniel Field airport in Augusta, Georgia.
[19:14:25] <GauntletWizard> I will try not to fly there
[19:15:33] <Churba> Stupid foreigner question, but what is even in Georgia? The only thing I know is Dukes of Hazzard and a Robert E Lee statue.
[19:16:04] <Churba> Though, I assume there's more than one, I only know the one.
[19:16:18] <GauntletWizard> the lost city of Atlanta
[19:17:19] <Churba> Now there's a futurama episode I've not seen for a while
[19:17:32] <GauntletWizard> one of my favorites
[19:18:02] <GauntletWizard> In actuality, Atlanta is one of the most productive cities in the US and one of the bastions of blue-collar labor
[19:18:12] <Churba> Well shit, sounds like my kinda town.
[19:18:13] <GauntletWizard> All of gerogia, actually
[19:18:21] <GauntletWizard> No, don't go there, it's a shithole
[19:18:44] <GauntletWizard> It's also heavily rooted with old southern racism
[19:19:04] <GauntletWizard> Majority black population, majority white police force, and all the problems you imagine come from that
[19:19:07] * Churba shrugs
[19:19:38] <Churba> I've been to El Salvador, it can't be worse than that. Though, I suppose there was less racisim in El sal. More being shot at though.
[19:20:30] <Apreche> Andrew lives in Atlanta. Ask him.
[19:21:00] <GauntletWizard> Atlanta Violent crime rate: 14.23. National rate: 3.9
[19:21:02] <Churba> We don't really talk, so much. Or at all, really.
[19:21:30] <Churba> Not that we've anything against each other far as I know, it's just one of those things.
[19:21:37] <GauntletWizard> Property crime: 70.1. National: 28.6
[19:21:53] <Churba> Jaysus, bit of a rough joint.
[19:21:58] <GauntletWizard> it is literally the least safe city in the US
[19:22:07] <GauntletWizard> Also, the airport sucks
[19:22:10] <GauntletWizard> despite being a major hub
[19:22:19] <Churba> Now that's something I can't forgive
[19:22:32] <GauntletWizard> Off in inland georgia, though, there's some really nice places
[19:23:03] <GauntletWizard> peach plantations, some towns built around good old fashioned industry that've found new life as datacenter hosts
[19:23:20] <Churba> Really? Tell me more about that, it sounds quite interesting
[19:25:46] <GauntletWizard> Google has a big datacenter complex in Lithia Springs
[19:26:44] <GauntletWizard> which is actually just outside of atlanta; Somehow I thought atlanta was coastal
[19:27:00] <GauntletWizard> Facebook almost built one there; they're in NC, instead
[19:29:25] <Churba> huh
[19:31:56] <Churba> I was trying to get a job as a remote hand in some local datacenters in my city, turns out they don't want some asshole without a degree. Perils of a not-for-profit tertiary education system, I guess, as if you need a degree to flick switches, slot blades, and screw rackmounts into place.
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[19:44:14] <GauntletWizard> Yeah, that is less a thing in the US
[19:44:44] <GauntletWizard> I know quite a few people who're in my position (decently high-level unix admin) who've climbed the ladders from datacenter tech
[19:45:23] <Churba> My...well, I'm not quite sure how to put it so we'll just say sweetheart for now, same deal - she's a data center manager, and a college dropout.
[19:49:21] <Churba> She's also way smarter than me, but that's neither here nor there
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[20:56:39] <Churba> Apparently, revenge bento are a thing that exists and/or happens
[20:59:13] <Churba> http://www.iromegane.com
[20:59:38] <Churba> To be honest, I could dig the pickled plum one. Love those fuckin' things.
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[21:47:22] <Churba> We had a bit of a storm yesterday
[21:47:23] <Churba> https://i.imgur.com
[21:47:31] <Churba> No joke - that's Water Street.
[21:51:13] <GauntletWizard> ha!
[21:57:30] <Coldguy_> nice river
[22:06:46] <Churba> Huh
[22:07:03] <Churba> The reaction to uber's recent fuck-up has been getting some interesting push-back from people who use uber
[22:08:04] <Churba> A lot of "Oh, but I've never had a problem with uber, it's always been super nice, and the drivers are great" etc etc
[22:10:25] <Churba> Which has absolutely nothing to do with the problem. It's like someone has gone "Oh, the chinese resturant gave me food poisoning!" and then people vigorously defending them by talking about the great meals they had at the italian joint down the road
[22:27:47] <Churba> One of the more interesting ones I've seen - "Oh, but this comes from Pando Daily, so it's just FUD"
[22:28:01] <Churba> Yeah, dumbass, as well as practically every outlet in the english-speaking world.
[22:41:16] <GauntletWizard> I have come to distrust basically all journalism in recent years
[22:41:24] <GauntletWizard> they've all fallen victim to buzzfeedification
[22:41:44] <GauntletWizard> I trust *reporters*, not outlets
[22:42:11] <Churba> That's kind of a silly way to say it, then.
[22:42:27] <GauntletWizard> Uber's CEOs seem like pieces of work, but my experience with Uber (The company, the app, the support team) have all been positive
[22:42:50] <GauntletWizard> The egregious things they have done are not nearly so egregious in context
[22:42:51] <Churba> Especially considering Buzzfeed also has a pretty well-regarded section for actual journalisim now.
[22:43:15] <GauntletWizard> Not buying it. I will never respect buzzfeed
[22:43:24] <GauntletWizard> They are born from shit and will always be shit
[22:43:33] <GauntletWizard> of course, I said that about Aj-quaeda
[22:43:51] <GauntletWizard> I mean, Al-jazeera, which was born from the propaganda arm
[22:44:23] <GauntletWizard> and was briefly a real news source before becoming a circlejerk again
[22:44:46] <Churba> Then to be incredibly blunt, you need to seriously reassess how you assess journalistic content for quality, because what you just said means that you're either lying or contradicting yourself when you say you trust reporters, but not outlets.
[22:46:45] <Churba> At the end of the day, the masthead doesn't matter in the slightest. Be it Buzzfeed, or the Times, or the Guardian, or just about any other outlet. What matters is the individual article, and if it is quality in and of itself. A masthead does not guarentee quality. It does not make content quality by association. What it tells you more than anything else is into whose pocket the money goes when you buy your subscription, or from your ad
[22:50:00] <Churba> Beyond that? What matters is the content itself, not whose fancy banner is plastered across the top of the page.
[22:51:13] <Churba> Full disclosure - I'm a journalist, if you didn't know already.
[22:53:29] <GauntletWizard> And yet; I can make those kind of generalizations because of the journalists who choose to work with and for those mastheads
[22:54:18] <GauntletWizard> I didn't say I didn't judge mastheads, only that I didn't trust them
[22:54:21] <Churba> You can, yes. You can also make the generalisation that they're controlled by the illuminati who are in turn controlled by the Lizard people from the center of the earth.
[22:54:50] <GauntletWizard> I still judge them; But I am no longer willing to grant trust based on masthead
[22:54:59] <GauntletWizard> only take it away
[22:57:05] <Churba> Well, that's just silly. You shouldn't even give it that much. It's literally just a name - you might as well raise or lower your trust level of all people called Brad, based on this one guy you know called Brad, who is a bit of a dick. It's an equally valid path to take.
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