#geeknights | Logs for 2014-06-05

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[06:17:04] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup
[06:17:19] <Apsup> yo
[06:19:59] <aria> Hey
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[06:23:08] <Bronzdragon> Hey aria!
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[06:32:20] <Bronzdragon> hitstun is still a cool name.
[06:32:33] <Apsup> Why is internet being slow.
[06:32:54] <Apsup> Downloading Visual Studio and this is taking forver, althoguh I should have super fast internets.
[06:32:54] <hitstun> nah, my name is stupid, it's just dumb enough nobody else takes it
[06:33:22] <hitstun> going to bed now, so but I'll be back on in the afternoon
[06:33:32] <Bronzdragon> Okay, good night.
[06:33:33] <Apsup> Good night.
[06:33:40] <hitstun> have a good one
[07:02:58] <aria> Wait, did you say that at yoursefl?
[07:03:14] <Bronzdragon> I think it was him saying good night to us.
[07:03:22] <aria> ah#
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[07:47:40] <Apsup> Blah, internet still not optimal. I wonder if it's something between here and somewhere else, as somethings seem fine, like Steam, but then youtube is like fuck you.
[07:47:40] <Robobuntoo> ...
[07:48:34] <Bronzdragon> So certain places have low preformance?
[07:49:08] <Apsup> Maybe someone sat on the cable that crosses the atlantic.
[07:50:21] <Apsup> Or maybe it's just youtube videos that hate me.
[07:51:33] <Apsup> ok, seems to work again.
[07:51:46] <Bronzdragon> Actually, wasn't there a hubub about how the distributed servers work poorly?
[07:51:58] <Bronzdragon> Do "unpopular" videos work better or worse?
[07:52:04] <Apsup> Just when I was about to test if chrome has similar problems.
[08:31:43] <aria> Apperantly, it takes 5 Zelda games announced this year for Nintendo to "Win E3".
[08:31:47] <aria> (From reddit)
[08:32:07] <Bronzdragon> Nah, it just requires Sony/Microsoft to be pretty boring.
[08:32:33] <aria> Also I was wondering why this cheese was so tasty, look down and realize its chocolate paste...
[08:32:47] <Bronzdragon> ...
[08:32:58] <Bronzdragon> That's some odd cheese.
[08:33:30] <aria> Oh.
[08:34:01] <aria> That post was not from /r/gaming, it was from casualnintendo. That makes more sense
[08:34:12] <Bronzdragon> Only slightly.
[08:35:25] <aria> Also people want Captain Falcon DLC for God Hand
[08:41:16] <aria> Crap
[08:41:25] <aria> I spoiled E3 for myself =P
[08:41:34] <Bronzdragon> OH NO
[08:41:35] <aria> And now Im excite
[08:41:42] <Bronzdragon> Will we stay up until 2AM?
[08:42:01] <aria> It was a hoax
[08:42:02] <aria> Yey
[08:42:03] <aria> Oh wait
[08:42:12] <aria> No now Im dissapoint
[08:42:26] <aria> Dunno, isn't it like 2 weeks away? yeah maybe
[08:57:53] <Bronzdragon> 5 days.
[08:58:31] <Bronzdragon> GoG.com and CD Projekt Red are streaming their own E3 confrence.
[08:58:40] <Bronzdragon> 11 AM PDT, whate3ver that means.
[09:03:18] <aria> Photo Document Techniques I think
[09:04:10] <aria> I looked it up. 7PM sane time.
[09:04:33] <aria> Also they have a confrence?
[09:04:46] <aria> I didn't think they were big enough
[09:04:54] <aria> I hope there is a Konami conference that is not a video
[09:05:14] <Bronzdragon> Nope: http://en.wikipedia.org
[09:08:09] <aria> Oh thats tomorrow is it?
[09:10:42] <Bronzdragon> Today, I think
[09:10:49] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, today.
[09:14:27] <aria> Oh...
[09:14:28] <aria> But
[09:14:31] <aria> Fedora says 5th today
[09:15:07] <Bronzdragon> Yes, they're doing it on the 5th.
[09:18:48] <aria> Oh I see
[09:40:26] <Apsup> Ah, new Dark Souls, being able to play it, not knowing where to go and what's ahead. I've been waiting for this feeling.
[09:43:43] <aria> Dark Souls 2 not good enough?
[09:43:52] <aria> Unless thats the one you're referencing
[09:44:39] <aria> I haven't played Demon's Souls but I really want to. Can't wait for Playstation Now to get hacked.
[09:44:51] <Apsup> That's I'm talking about, finally bought it today.
[09:45:20] <Apsup> As for the first time since it came out, I'm not unable to pay rent and get proper food.
[09:50:52] <Bronzdragon> So decadent. Food AND a roof over your head.
[10:25:37] <aria> I'd like a roof over my head =(
[11:00:43] <Bronzdragon> Ryan Air says a trip to Oslo Rygge is only 20 bucks.
[11:00:53] <Bronzdragon> (One way)
[11:01:58] <Bronzdragon> (Also, their booking tool is really awesome suddenly)
[11:05:14] <aria> Really? it used to be the worst piece of crap
[11:05:31] <Bronzdragon> http://ryanair.com
[11:05:39] <Bronzdragon> That's a long URL, but...
[11:05:53] <Bronzdragon> It finds the cheapest flight automatically for all the inputs you give it.
[11:15:18] <aria> Thats pretty great
[11:15:35] <Bronzdragon> Yeah!
[11:15:45] <Bronzdragon> You could visit your parents for a day or two, maybe?
[11:16:16] <aria> I suppose. Or I could eat pizza instead for that money
[11:21:49] <Bronzdragon> That's true.
[11:21:52] <Bronzdragon> Two pizzas, in fact
[11:21:59] <Bronzdragon> You can't get your parents to sponsor your pizza though.
[11:31:52] <Bronzdragon> Unreal 4.2 is out, I didn't even notice.
[11:34:13] <Bronzdragon> (Until now, obviously)
[11:56:32] <aria> Can you purchace two copies of Sniper Elite V2 from Steam for us? I dunno if we already own it or not
[11:56:34] <aria> Maybe we pirated it
[11:56:45] <Bronzdragon> Pfft, geeze
[11:56:50] <aria> Actually I think we have one copy among the two of us
[11:56:54] <Bronzdragon> Bird flew against the window, scared the crap out of me.
[11:57:02] <aria> heh
[11:57:07] <Bronzdragon> =(
[11:57:10] <aria> They're 100% off. Don't buy them if they cost money
[12:01:08] <Bronzdragon> 'K
[12:02:28] <Bronzdragon> Yup, free.
[12:02:36] <Bronzdragon> Also, the Kill Hitler DLC is 7 bucks
[12:02:43] <Bronzdragon> (You also get 2 extra guns?)\
[12:05:21] <aria> Oh, you mean the trailer to the game?
[12:05:25] <aria> Anyway, nah don't get that
[12:05:48] <Bronzdragon> 'cours not.
[12:05:53] <Bronzdragon> Anyway, doesn't work?
[12:06:20] <aria> what doesn't work?
[12:07:42] <aria> There is Dead Rising 3 for PC coming
[12:07:53] <Bronzdragon> I think the problem is that since I own it, the game is on the list of authorized games.
[12:07:59] <Bronzdragon> But it's not autorized for you.
[12:13:46] <Bronzdragon> I revoked access, and it worked!
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[12:50:11] <Bronzdragon> Birds knocked on the idnwo again.
[12:50:22] <Bronzdragon> I think there's a bird around here trying to mess with the nesting pair.
[12:50:46] <Bronzdragon> And then when the local one chases the invader off, they don't notice the window very well.
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[12:55:11] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup.
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[12:55:23] <Bronzdragon> BOO
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[13:04:59] <Bronzdra1on> Must've closed my connection accidentally
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[13:06:34] <Bronzdra1on> I should register my nick so I can easily kick my ghost
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[13:13:35] <Bronzdra1on> Hey Apsup
[13:13:41] Bronzdra1on is now known as Bronzdragon
[13:13:53] <Bronzdragon> My game works now.
[13:14:07] <Bronzdragon> It had reset all the keybinds, which is why only the default actions worked.
[13:16:38] <Apsup> Hello B.
[13:17:03] <Bronzdragon> Btw, I totally don't like earlier when you pretended to join, but didn't.
[13:18:07] <Apsup> Sorry, had to restart my computer.
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[13:58:29] <Bronzdragon> HEY PENCE
[13:59:32] <pence> gooooood morning
[14:00:16] <Bronzdragon> Tell me a story plz
[14:03:30] <pence> hmm
[14:05:28] <pence> https://www.youtube.com the greatest fast food story ever told
[14:06:45] <Bronzdragon> hat was something.
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[14:28:31] <Bronzdragon> spacejam!
[14:28:39] <Bronzdragon> Can you tell me a better story than the one pence told me?
[14:28:54] <Bronzdragon> (Don't tell him I said this, but it wasn't very good...)
[14:29:03] <spacejam> no
[14:30:00] <Bronzdragon> =(
[14:30:20] <spacejam> pence and i have told you enough stories.
[14:30:23] <spacejam> go to sleep.
[14:30:32] <Bronzdragon> This early?
[14:30:42] <Bronzdragon> I don't want to go to bed yet!
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[14:31:04] <spacejam> guess we'll just sit here and wait then
[14:31:11] <spacejam> why don't YOU tell a story?
[14:31:45] <Apsup> I think the idea of a summer is better than summer itself.
[14:31:59] <Apsup> Like I liked the idea of it being warm, but now it's just hell in execution.
[14:32:33] <Bronzdragon> Okay, I'll tell you a story!
[14:32:47] <Bronzdragon> yesterday, I heard we're getting kicked out of our apartment in a month
[14:33:21] <spacejam> :-/
[14:33:41] <Bronzdragon> I know!
[14:33:51] <Bronzdragon> So now we have to find a new place to live.
[14:34:10] <spacejam> the problem is the average temperature is constantly going up and down, so even when we say summer it's not just one temperature, but a moving average. so it's good for about 3 weeks
[14:34:19] <spacejam> how can they kick you out?
[14:34:40] <Apsup> Bronz, I've heard that story before. Also it's sad.
[14:34:50] <Apsup> You should create an happy ending to it.
[14:34:51] <Bronzdragon> Our rent agreement was for a year, but I kind of assumed it would just get extended.
[14:35:00] <Bronzdragon> Working on the happy ending, sorta
[14:35:15] <Bronzdragon> Also, my parents are coming to visit in ~3 days, so that'll be fun.
[14:35:55] <aria> Wait what.
[14:35:59] <aria> Since when?
[14:36:01] <aria> Well fuck.
[14:36:01] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[14:38:40] <Apsup> Have you two ever thought about talking about thing outside of irc?
[14:39:08] <spacejam> The solution is clearly not to talk outside of IRC, but to be on IRC at all times.
[14:39:38] <Bronzdragon> Oh, sorry, is this conversation awkward?
[14:39:46] <Bronzdragon> Or poluting the chat? I'll be more careful.
[14:42:00] <Apsup> No, it's just that sometimes it seems that that kind of important things come up between you two in irc, when I'd assume that they were better to tell just face to face.
[14:42:45] <spacejam> ^
[14:42:48] <pence> I dunno, I've been using instant messaging to communicate with people in the same room as me since I first went to college
[14:42:55] <pence> and now I do it at work
[14:43:21] <aria> We're not in the same room. Though I do use IM to talk to co-workers sitting very close to me...
[14:43:21] <Bronzdragon> Well, Aria already knew about the visit, it's just I completely forgot when it was.
[14:43:26] <Bronzdragon> Because that's the sort of person I am.
[14:43:35] <aria> I also forgot about when it was...
[14:43:39] <aria> I thought it was a few weeks away
[14:43:53] <Bronzdragon> So it's not that we haven't talked about it, it's just we're forgetful.
[14:48:16] <Bronzdragon> Anyway, thanks for listening.
[15:16:25] <Apsup> I wasn't listening, I was shopping.
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[17:09:07] <Bronzdragon> What email name should Aria go for, since his last name is taken?
[17:15:35] <Apsup> firstname.lastname@email.com or firstname.seconnameinitial.lastname@email.com
[17:15:53] <Apsup> Or maybe be bold and go lastname.firstname@email.co
[17:16:02] <Bronzdragon> Firstname.Lastname is taken.
[17:16:02] <spacejam> whoa whoa whoa
[17:16:11] <Bronzdragon> That's the entire problem
[17:17:31] <Bronzdragon> I wanna register my last name as a domain, coz then I can do first@last.nl as my email address
[17:17:43] <Bronzdragon> That would make me very happy.
[17:18:30] <Apsup> I'm quite glad that I managed to get firstname.lastname@gmail.com back in the day. Quite common name I have.
[17:18:53] <Bronzdragon> Yes.
[17:20:03] <pence> I have first initial last name @gmail.com
[17:20:13] <pence> I get a surprising amount of email intended for other people
[17:20:40] <pence> apparently one of them is a med student
[17:21:23] <pence> one of them is looking for jobs in washington state
[17:22:12] <Apsup> Some time ago, I think it was last year, I gol multiple calls from a old man who tried to call his grandson or something like that, and we shared names, so he just had looked for a person of my name form my city and got my number.
[17:23:03] <Apsup> First time it happened, he woke me up and being still half asleep I didn't even realize what was going on when this old guy talked about his eyesight to me.
[17:24:21] <Bronzdragon> I rarely get other people's email. Though the people who share my name is like, a (semi) famous criminal, and a extremly right-wing politician
[17:24:48] <Apsup> ...
[17:25:05] <Bronzdragon> They live in Belgium though, so that's fine.
[17:25:38] <Apsup> The worst thing is to get other people's mail. When I moved here, for months I got mail directed to the person who used to live here.
[17:26:41] <Bronzdragon> https://twitter.com
[17:27:36] <Bronzdragon> I don't get this guy's background, seeing as the things he's saying are decidedly un-communistic.
[18:01:33] <apreche> taking the day off tomorrow
[18:01:35] <apreche> so today is Friday
[18:01:38] <apreche> poof!
[18:01:47] <apreche> it's magic, I'm a magician
[18:02:10] <Apsup> But today is not friday.
[18:02:14] <Apsup> You magic sucks.
[18:02:24] <apreche> it is for me
[18:02:42] <Apsup> I haven't done any schoolwork today, so it's kinda like a weekend for me. I guess.
[18:02:45] <Apsup> Though I still have time.
[18:17:12] <Apsup> Gog, will be having their own client.
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[18:18:07] <Apsup> Bye bye, welcome.
[18:18:49] <apreche> wait, so GoG client next to the Steam client?
[18:18:51] <apreche> so annoying
[18:19:02] <Apsup> It's optional.
[18:19:26] <Apsup> I think it can be convinent, if you mostly buy and play games from gog.
[18:19:36] <apreche> that's good
[18:19:49] <apreche> I just hate these meta-launchers
[18:19:54] <apreche> I even wish Steam didn't have it
[18:20:00] <apreche> UPLAY is the worst, though
[18:20:06] <apreche> well, maybe Origin is the worst
[18:20:32] <Apsup> I find them convinient. I think I play steam games more than others, because I can just look at the list of my steam games in convinient manner.
[18:20:58] <Apsup> For non-steam games, I have to go and look for them individually, less impulse playing.
[18:21:19] <apreche> well, a launcher is different from a client
[18:21:24] <apreche> I use launchy to launch apps
[18:21:31] <apreche> since a game is a bit different from other apps
[18:21:41] <apreche> launchy doesn't really do well there
[18:22:36] <Apsup> I used to use launchy at some point, but haven't had need for it for a while.
[18:23:00] <apreche> if your browser isn't open, and you want to open it, how do you do dis?
[18:23:10] <apreche> I press alt+space, type a few letters and press enter
[18:23:11] <apreche> so fast
[18:23:37] <Apsup> click the firefox button on taskbar. If I want to be fancy, I could press windows-button type a few letters and press enter.
[18:24:08] <apreche> i tried using the window key for awhile
[18:24:17] <apreche> it's just slower and often found the wrong thing
[18:24:34] <apreche> when stuff had similar names, it didn't learn very well
[18:24:37] <apreche> maybe it's improved?
[18:25:16] <Apsup> Dunno. Could be that I have lower standards.
[18:25:26] <Apsup> No could, is so.
[18:25:33] <Apsup> I definitely have lower standeards.
[18:25:53] <apreche> it's just really annoying to type without looking and then some other app opens up you didn't want.
[18:26:07] <apreche> it also didn't remember stuff like, use 64-bit photoshop, not 32-bit
[18:26:29] <apreche> since creative cloud installs both versions of everything
[18:26:35] <apreche> for no reason
[18:29:23] <Apsup> Could be that if you use launchy a lot it's better than using the start menu search, but I generally use a small handful of programs which are pinned in the taskbar.
[18:29:46] <GauntletWizard> Yeah, the windows smart launcher is... still pretty shit
[18:30:25] <apreche> Take your hand off the mouse
[18:30:29] <apreche> for power
[18:31:09] <spacejam> launchy's great
[18:31:15] <spacejam> i don't use it for web browse though
[18:31:18] <spacejam> win-1
[18:31:46] <Apsup> I generally enjoy doing my leisury internet browsing with just a hand on mouse. Leaves other hand free for ball scratching. For example.
[18:32:14] <Apsup> And if I have mouse of hand for that anyways, a little more of that for other uses isn't so bad.
[18:33:40] <apreche> I browse almost entirely with keyboard
[18:33:51] <apreche> ctrl+l -> type part of URL -> ctrl+enter
[18:33:57] <apreche> pgup, pgdn
[18:34:03] <apreche> that's how I read so much internet so fast
[18:34:15] <spacejam> F6?
[18:34:34] <spacejam> I decided at some point that page down annoys me
[18:34:36] <Apsup> how do you manage links?
[18:34:36] <spacejam> pages be too wide
[18:34:40] <spacejam> space jam lose place
[18:35:08] <apreche> if the link is close to the top
[18:35:10] <apreche> I can get to it with tab
[18:35:18] <apreche> otherwise, ctrl+f and start typing the link text
[18:38:42] <Apsup> Well, if that works for you. I've stated before and will again, that I'm willing to do things wrong way and excange some speed for personal confortability.
[18:42:38] <Bronzdragon> apreche, get Vimperator
[18:42:42] <apreche> not a fan
[18:42:48] <Bronzdragon> It's much better then "Ctrl +L"
[18:42:53] <Apsup> I hate it when course material uses old version of things.
[18:42:56] <spacejam> OH
[18:43:05] <spacejam> this was where i had the vimperator discussion, wasn't it
[18:43:28] <apreche> i use default everything as much as possible
[18:43:34] <apreche> even my vim config is tiny compared to most people
[18:44:03] <Apsup> Course material talks about visual studio 2010, while I hate 2013 and I'm sure that at some point something will be complitely different and I have to go and find a way around the difference.
[18:44:03] <apreche> changing yourself is much better than changing the computer.
[18:44:04] <Bronzdragon> Vimperator is such a small investment, it seems odd to handicap yourself just to make sure everything is consistant
[18:44:15] <Bronzdragon> Like "Let's not get this bike to go fast, because I might not always have a bike!"
[18:44:17] <apreche> and then you sit at a computer that doesn't have it
[18:44:28] <apreche> and you're all blargablarga
[18:44:35] <Bronzdragon> I can use a computer that doesn't have vimp JUST FINE.
[18:44:39] <apreche> instead, if you adapt to the defaults
[18:44:43] <apreche> you can be at full power on all computers
[18:45:16] <Bronzdragon> if by full power, you mean half power, then yes.
[18:45:28] <Apsup> You will use a certain set of computers for 99.9% and you care about that remaining 0.1%
[18:45:32] <Bronzdragon> Eh, who am I to argue with your life philosophy. Whatever floats your boat.
[18:45:44] <apreche> I use a lot of computers
[18:45:56] <apreche> and then there's all the time installing all those configs and extensions over and over again
[18:46:00] <apreche> I learned from the Gentoo days
[18:46:01] <Bronzdragon> Firefox syncs though, including add-ons.
[18:46:03] <apreche> I used fvwm
[18:46:11] <apreche> I customized absolutely everything
[18:46:24] <apreche> and then I realized I spent all the time customizing the computer, and not actually using it to do anything.
[18:46:42] <apreche> so now I don't waste any time customizing computers beyond maybe wallpaper.
[18:46:58] <Bronzdragon> How to install vimperator and fully custimize it: https://addons.mozilla.org
[18:47:02] <Bronzdragon> DONE.
[18:47:05] <Apsup> If I customize somethig it's pretty obviously something that I care about and will use a lot.
[18:47:22] <apreche> is that really the only extension you use in the hole world?
[18:47:34] <apreche> also, what about chrome?
[18:47:34] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, pretty much
[18:47:45] <Bronzdragon> Adblock as well
[18:48:20] <Bronzdragon> That's all the PC custimizing I did.
[18:48:33] <Bronzdragon> Actually, I changed my desktop wallpaper to be a nice solid colour as well.
[18:48:40] <apreche> that's not an unreasonable amount
[18:48:49] <Bronzdragon> Hell, I've been too lazy to set up my irssi settings.
[18:49:10] <Bronzdragon> I have to manually type "/co[tab]f[tab]" every time I start IRC, because I hate custimizing.
[18:49:17] <Bronzdragon> Vimperator is still a have2get
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[18:50:01] <Apsup> I have my wallpaper on hourly rotation from my wallpaper folder. No need to spend time thinking about what wallpaper to use.
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[19:34:42] <Bronzdragon> Is it word- and word-word or word-, and word-word?
[19:34:48] <Bronzdragon> Or something else?
[20:05:38] <GauntletWizard> https://twitter.com
[20:05:56] <apreche> ^^
[20:06:01] <apreche> those character designs are way messed up
[20:06:17] <pence> but most importantly
[20:06:18] <pence> toast
[20:06:33] <apreche> toast is also important
[20:06:43] <apreche> but I think that toast is in episode 2, not 1
[20:06:47] <apreche> of the original
[20:08:46] <Bronzdragon> I like toast.
[20:08:55] <Bronzdragon> http://en.wikipedia.org
[20:09:26] <pence> "Toast sandwiches can be used instead of bread when accompanying meals. Its texture makes it a complement to the mouthfeel given by pasta, salad, soup and aspic dishes."
[20:09:30] <pence> I read that as
[20:09:42] <pence> "toast sandwiches can be used instead of bread when making sandwiches"
[20:09:51] <pence> which opened up a world of possibilities
[20:09:58] <Bronzdragon> Amazing.
[20:10:13] <spacejam> BWONNNGGGGGG
[20:18:12] <Bronzdragon> Google docs has "Norks" as a language option.
[20:18:19] <Bronzdragon> Not entirely sure how that works.
[20:18:21] <Bronzdragon> Is it both?
[20:21:10] <apreche> pretty sure google has the same set of language options in every place
[20:21:17] <apreche> pirate, swedish chef, l33t, etc.
[20:21:28] <Bronzdragon> There's no "Norwegian" language though
[20:21:36] <Bronzdragon> There's Booklanguage and New Norwegian.
[20:21:50] <Bronzdragon> Bokmal and NyNorsk, respectively
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[21:31:26] <Bronzdragon> G'nignt
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