#geeknights | Logs for 2014-05-14

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[06:02:06] <Bronzdragon> Yo
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[07:27:08] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup
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[07:42:22] <Apsup> Heya.
[07:44:20] <Bronzdragon> Wuzzup, Apsup?
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[13:12:00] <Bronzdragon> Welcome spacejam.
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[13:38:23] <Bronzdragon> Hey pence
[13:38:30] <spacejam> hoy
[13:38:41] <pence> hello!
[13:47:46] <apreche> PAX watch continues
[13:48:30] <spacejam> oh dang, is this the alert channel?
[13:51:59] <pence> despite having @Official_PAX set to notify I don't trust either of my devices to alert me fast enough
[13:52:09] <apreche> ^^^this
[13:52:31] <spacejam> so if i get through i might as well buy all the tickets for my friends and whatnot
[13:52:36] <Bronzdragon> @_@
[13:52:44] <apreche> no matter how many you buy, they will go to good use
[13:53:07] <spacejam> i have regularly thought that pax should go by a lottery system
[13:53:11] <pence> I've maxed out on badges for the past two years and they've always found a home
[13:53:17] <spacejam> single tier pricing sounds great in theory
[13:53:23] <spacejam> like, we're giving everyone a chance
[13:53:28] <spacejam> but really you just get resellers
[13:53:34] <spacejam> and give chances to the people with the fastest internet
[13:53:54] <apreche> this is the best solution
[13:53:55] <spacejam> which is not very egalitarian at all
[13:53:59] <apreche> scalping is much less than you think
[13:54:08] <apreche> percentage wise, there is almost no scalping
[13:54:11] <Bronzdragon> Y'know what I don't get? If this is really an issue, why doesn't PAX make a sign-up list a day before the tickets get on sale.
[13:54:24] <Bronzdragon> They email everyone on the list who wants a badge, and offer 1.
[13:54:33] <Bronzdragon> Problem solved?
[13:54:34] <apreche> so a lottery?
[13:54:40] <Bronzdragon> Yes, it basically is already
[13:54:45] <apreche> no, it's not a lottery
[13:54:49] <apreche> at the present time
[13:55:00] <apreche> the system now favors those who are more dedicated to PAX
[13:55:09] <spacejam> who aren't busy working jobs
[13:55:10] <Bronzdragon> Hmmm, that's true.
[13:55:18] <Bronzdragon> Is that better though?
[13:55:21] <spacejam> and have the fastest internet
[13:55:31] <apreche> who are willing to stop working their jobs because PAX is more important
[13:55:37] <apreche> faster Internet really isn't going to help you
[13:55:47] <spacejam> well, that works for some jobs
[13:55:57] <spacejam> primarily the ones with the white collars
[13:56:07] <pence> guilty as charged...
[13:56:24] <apreche> you're just loading a web page, not downloading a video
[13:56:26] <spacejam> i wonder how hard it would be to bot the pax website
[13:56:45] <pence> these are the days where I go to lunch early so I can be at my desk ready to go around 12:00-1:00
[13:56:56] <spacejam> how about latency?
[13:57:12] <spacejam> that probably helps local seattleites and hurts people in dubai
[13:57:20] <Bronzdragon> Aye.
[13:57:31] <spacejam> and maybe affects people on crappy wifi
[13:57:59] <pence> I don't think latency is that much of an issue, realistically you probably have a 30 minute window at least, more if you don't care about all four days
[13:58:10] <spacejam> ahh
[13:58:14] <spacejam> is it still 30?
[13:58:19] <Bronzdragon> Also, anyone who isn't on a desktop or laptop. Anyone ordering tickets from an tablet or phone is screwed.
[13:58:30] <Bronzdragon> I thought it was instant.
[13:58:37] <pence> it's hard to say, I was really lucky and got in almost immediately last year for prime
[13:58:46] <spacejam> yeah see 30-60 seems reasonable
[13:59:00] <spacejam> even if you don't have a nice computer or nice internet or a nice job, you could probably schlep to somewhere to get it sorted out
[13:59:32] <spacejam> if it's more like 3-6 then you're kinda screwed if you don't have that trifecta
[14:00:25] <pence> also people like me who max out on badges as insurance for their less-obsessive friends... I'm probably part of the problem according to some people
[14:00:54] <spacejam> it's a self-reinforcing problem...because i figure those people exist, i figure i have to become one of them
[14:02:08] <spacejam> the problem with lottery is that someone could reserve on multiple accounts, but at that point you could just require them to pay up if they win on each, which seems equal to the current system
[14:02:34] <spacejam> oh!
[14:02:43] <spacejam> you could combine them
[14:02:47] <spacejam> 50 minute window + lottery
[14:02:47] <Bronzdragon> When you sign up, you have to give an address to ship the badges too.
[14:03:00] <spacejam> then you get both the dedication and the chance
[14:03:14] <Bronzdragon> How many places can you ship badges too? Work and home? You can only enter twice!
[14:03:15] <spacejam> ahh
[14:03:23] <spacejam> no ...people have addresses
[14:03:36] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, but not like, a hundred.
[14:03:42] <pence> if multiple people live at the same address, you would have to allow different names or restrict it to one person per address
[14:03:44] <spacejam> the richest people can just get them to their summer homes
[14:03:47] <spacejam> or you could have po boxes
[14:03:49] <spacejam> or ....
[14:03:52] <spacejam> if i lived in a house
[14:03:53] <spacejam> i could say
[14:03:58] <Bronzdragon> Well, you can order multiple badges still, right?
[14:03:58] <spacejam> Frank Spacejam
[14:04:00] <spacejam> apt C3
[14:04:07] <spacejam> Brian Brodro
[14:04:10] <spacejam> apt D4
[14:04:14] <spacejam> and even though it's one house
[14:04:17] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, I GUESS.
[14:04:19] <spacejam> it'd be like, badge city
[14:04:35] <spacejam> if you have a game
[14:04:41] <spacejam> never underestimate the ability of people to bend the rules of said game
[14:06:11] <Bronzdragon> That's fair.
[14:06:27] <spacejam> it's the best part of playing a game, to me
[14:06:32] <Bronzdragon> Pax people are smart, so I assume this current situation is the optimal one, but I can still think about it, right?
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[14:06:44] <Bronzdragon> Hey yoshokatana.
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[14:07:11] <Bronzdragon> So does PAX not annouce way beforehand when badges go on sale?
[14:07:21] <spacejam> honestly the pax people probably don't have to make it perfect. they sell out, people at pax are happy, doesn't matter to them
[14:07:46] <spacejam> if it's not a fully equitable equation, that doesn't really affect them at all
[14:07:49] <pence> last year, I think there was a tweet a few hours before? I forget
[14:08:31] <Bronzdragon> Why don't they have a blog post a month in advance?
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[14:08:35] <Bronzdragon> Surely, they know, right?
[14:08:45] <spacejam> probably to enhance mystery
[14:08:50] <spacejam> ?
[14:09:01] <yoshokatana> hallo
[14:09:03] <spacejam> maybe because every year they recode the ticket system and they don't know if it'll work or not
[14:10:07] <Bronzdragon> Hallo yoshokatana!
[14:11:07] <pence> worst case scenario for me would be if badges went up during morning standup
[14:11:39] <spacejam> how long is your standup?
[14:11:51] <Bronzdragon> Gotta find a group of people, and get some shifts worked out.
[14:11:55] <Bronzdragon> Overlapping, if possible
[14:13:41] <pence> only 15 minutes, but sometimes standup becomes separate 30 minute conversations
[14:14:12] <spacejam> WORST: (1) sleeping
[14:14:15] <spacejam> (2) commuting
[14:14:18] <spacejam> (3) meeting
[14:14:23] <spacejam> (4) pooping?
[14:15:04] <Bronzdragon> 4 would seem like a good time, since you have your smart phone with you.
[14:17:16] <yoshokatana> ^
[14:18:03] <spacejam> true
[14:18:06] <spacejam> hmm
[14:21:45] <spacejam> weren't you just saying people with phones or tablets were screwed?
[14:22:05] <Bronzdragon> But then I learned you have an hour long window
[14:22:18] <spacejam> oh it's an hour?
[14:22:28] <spacejam> oh nevermind then
[14:22:29] <Bronzdragon> The only knowledge I have of ordering PAX badges is apreche saying "They sell out instantly!"
[14:22:59] <spacejam> that's doable
[14:36:14] <Bronzdragon> Guy tried to sell me a "Smart mop" at my door
[14:36:20] <Bronzdragon> Dude, really? Smart mop?
[14:40:58] <spacejam> what's it do
[14:49:04] <Bronzdragon> I told the guy "No"
[14:49:14] <Bronzdragon> He went, "... but smart mop!"
[14:49:17] <Bronzdragon> And I closed the door
[14:49:19] <Bronzdragon> So... I dunno
[14:50:08] <Bronzdragon> Actually, here's an infomercial: https://www.youtube.com
[14:50:35] <spacejam> oh i haven't seen this one yet
[14:50:41] <spacejam> but he's the best youtube channel of all time
[14:51:02] <Bronzdragon> Top google result. For good reason.
[14:53:49] <yoshokatana> hmm
[14:53:54] <yoshokatana> I need to redesign my resume
[14:53:54] <yoshokatana> https://keats.me
[14:54:41] <spacejam> why
[14:55:13] <yoshokatana> it doesn’t really...pop
[14:55:20] <Bronzdragon> https://keats.me First word. Brilliancy.
[14:55:23] <Bronzdragon> Hmmmmmmmm.
[14:55:46] <yoshokatana> it’s totally a word, I promise
[14:56:06] <spacejam> pop?
[14:56:10] <spacejam> who's your target market?
[14:56:10] <yoshokatana> http://cl.ly
[14:56:38] <yoshokatana> spacejam: startup founders and CTOs, lead developers, etc
[14:56:43] <yoshokatana> NOT recruiters
[14:56:50] <yoshokatana> unless they’re cool recruiters
[14:57:11] <yoshokatana> and not corporate people unless, of course, they’re cool
[14:57:12] <pence> all you really need to get recruiters is a lot of impressive-sounding acronyms
[14:57:18] <yoshokatana> yeah
[14:57:19] <spacejam> as 2-3 of those things, your resume told me everything i needed to know
[14:57:31] <yoshokatana> I actually took off some acronyms because I got too many recruiter emails
[14:57:35] <spacejam> (1) that you can code and (2) that you didn't just copy your resume from the first hit on google
[14:57:59] <yoshokatana> well, yeah, but it doesn’t differentiate me much
[14:58:17] <spacejam> well, yeah
[14:58:26] <yoshokatana> I’m thinking:
[14:58:28] <spacejam> if you're looking to be a visual/front-end person, that's portfolio
[14:58:35] <yoshokatana> 1. cut down the skills section, it’s too long
[14:58:48] <spacejam> if you're just a generally good coder, i would just start getting that resume to as many people as possible
[14:58:55] <yoshokatana> 2. cut down the experience blurbs, it’s hard to tell the information hierarchy
[14:59:31] <spacejam> maybe do some AB tests if you really want to know who reads it
[14:59:53] <yoshokatana> spacejam: well that’s the problem. I’m semi-design-y and a good coder, but that isn’t apparent from the resume
[14:59:54] <spacejam> if i'm hiring i honestly don't look past answering the first 2 questiosn
[15:00:14] <yoshokatana> yeah
[15:00:26] <spacejam> the resume might be fine
[15:00:35] <yoshokatana> I A/B test most of the stuff on my resume (you’ll notice there’s no education section :p )
[15:00:47] <spacejam> tis true
[15:00:55] <spacejam> i would give you an interview based on it
[15:01:03] <spacejam> even if it had an education section
[15:01:15] <yoshokatana> yeah, it’s not a terrible resume
[15:01:22] <spacejam> some of your keywords are a little hard to translate into something meaningful
[15:01:27] <yoshokatana> agreed
[15:01:34] <spacejam> i don't know what emerging interfaces means
[15:01:57] <spacejam> and saying mobile first is more a best practice than a skill
[15:02:13] <spacejam> but honestly, who cares, i already decided to give you an interview based on the fact that you seem to actually write code
[15:02:14] <yoshokatana> spacejam: yeah. I was trying to get across the idea of “responsive design”, but expanded to more things than just different screen sizes
[15:02:37] <yoshokatana> usually I go through my “what responsive design means to me” spiel during interviews
[15:02:45] <spacejam> ahh yeah...tis more of a portfolio question
[15:02:52] <yoshokatana> (e.g. internet of things, wearables, vr, etc)
[15:03:06] <spacejam> i'm going to guess that if you hand this resume out you get interviews
[15:03:16] <spacejam> so maybe you can maximize the number of handouts
[15:03:32] <spacejam> and interview to offer conversion rate
[15:03:48] <spacejam> but i could be wrong
[15:03:59] <yoshokatana> I usually get around 50% interviews / companies I sent it to
[15:04:07] <yoshokatana> maybe 60%
[15:04:20] <spacejam> that's not bad
[15:04:23] <yoshokatana> I haven’t crunched the exact numbers though
[15:04:26] <yoshokatana> yeah, it’s not terrible
[15:04:45] <spacejam> of course i could be thinking about non software devs, but overall it seems reasonable
[15:04:58] <yoshokatana> my usual time between starting to look for jobs and getting the first offer is around 2 weeks, so not bad at all
[15:05:05] <yoshokatana> but it could be better
[15:05:20] <spacejam> yeah that's not bad
[15:06:07] <spacejam> guess it doesnt' hurt to try and get to the next level, but it sounds like you're getting plenty of juice for the squeeze
[15:06:12] <yoshokatana> mhmm
[15:06:57] <yoshokatana> right now it looks good and professional, and has a very reasonable conversion rate, but I’m not sure it really stands out
[15:07:01] <yoshokatana> hence the redesign
[15:07:31] <spacejam> one big tip: companies/developer hirers are super self centered, so if you can pitch me on how you can solve *my* problems, then that gets my instant attention
[15:07:45] <yoshokatana> especially since I’m now approaching the line between mid-level and senior developer
[15:07:51] <yoshokatana> yup
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[16:10:16] <pence> hm, new netrunner draft set has some lunar cycle cards in it... nothing new spoiled in the preview but I'd expect some new spoilers shortly
[16:10:28] <apreche> are those lunar cycle cards legal in constructed play?
[16:10:39] <apreche> because you could use them before the lunar packs are released if you draft them
[16:10:46] <apreche> also, they're making you buy a different draft starter
[16:11:18] <pence> "All cards found in Overdrive draft products, except for those marked “draft format only,” are legal in standard tournament play as soon as they are tournament legal and released within the standard LCG format."
[16:11:21] <pence> probably not
[16:11:41] <apreche> oh, that's good
[16:12:25] <pence> and yeah, the cost is the main thing keeping me from drafting netrunner
[16:13:57] <pence> and they seem to be selling the mystery of the draft set as part of the experience, which doesn't sit well with me
[16:14:02] <pence> "Android: Netrunner Draft Play is an exciting, alternate play format for Android: Netrunner that introduces a unique set of challenges as players build decks from cards that they select one at a time from a limited number, without full knowledge of the available card pool."
[16:14:53] <apreche> yeah, the mystery was bad
[16:15:05] <apreche> I played in one draft and it was meh because of the mystery
[16:15:10] <apreche> I feel like if I did it again, it would be much better
[16:15:16] <apreche> because I would have knowledge
[16:18:00] <pence> right
[17:17:10] <Bronzdragon> How do you pronounce "Copse"
[17:29:48] <yoshokatana> Bronzdragon: kōps
[17:29:53] <yoshokatana> (long O)
[17:30:20] <yoshokatana> ah, technically käps
[17:31:32] <spacejam_> like call the 02käps01
[17:49:21] <Bronzdragon> Why is that blue?
[18:08:16] <GauntletWizard> I am freaked out by NN
[18:08:52] <GauntletWizard> There's a good reason we've not classified (or called for clasification) internet providers as telecom companies
[18:09:04] <GauntletWizard> It's still illegal in america to swear over the telephone
[18:09:21] <GauntletWizard> I don't see any other option
[18:09:45] <GauntletWizard> but the FCC's game of chicken is not one that anyone wins.
[18:09:59] <Bronzdragon> Hey, GauntletWizard.
[18:10:01] <Bronzdragon> And, really?
[18:10:10] <Bronzdragon> There's laws about what you can send over the phone?
[18:13:17] <GauntletWizard> yes
[18:13:31] <Bronzdragon> ... why?
[18:13:34] <Bronzdragon> That's dumb.
[18:14:09] <GauntletWizard> ancient laws governing acceptable use of public resources
[18:14:18] <GauntletWizard> Not likely to ever be prosecuted
[18:14:36] <Bronzdragon> Fair enough, but still.
[18:14:39] <GauntletWizard> But I'm not convinced that the FCC are the best guardians of our internet freedoms
[18:14:54] <Bronzdragon> Google has our back, right?
[18:15:38] <GauntletWizard> We are, literally, at a loss
[18:15:46] <GauntletWizard> we're going with the best idea we have
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[18:15:54] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup
[18:16:03] <Apsup> Heya. Today's burning wheels are over.
[18:16:47] <Apsup> My character basically died.
[18:17:00] <Bronzdragon> 'Basically'?
[18:17:06] <pence> but did you get artha?
[18:18:27] <Apsup> Not really. I got one faith, as the one thing I did before getting arrow to the gut was related to my belief.
[18:22:15] <Bronzdragon> What does "I got one faith
[18:22:18] <Bronzdragon> " mean?
[18:24:12] <Apsup> Faith points are type of currency used in Burning Wheel rewarded by GM to good players.
[18:24:39] <Bronzdragon> Because the GM is god?
[18:31:14] <pence> Fate points :P
[18:31:40] <pence> unless you mean Faith, which is a separate stat (I forget how Faith works...)
[18:32:54] <pence> not to be confused with Fate points in FATE...
[18:39:01] <Bronzdragon> I'm confused.
[19:09:02] <apreche> Faith is an emotional attribute for priests and clerics
[19:09:06] <apreche> Fate is a type of Artha point.
[19:09:28] <Apsup> I'll simplfy: "in burning wheel GM gives candy to good players and I got candy tonight".
[19:09:47] <apreche> the smallest and least significant of the 3 possible candies
[19:10:09] <apreche> i hsouldn't talk, last session, I only got 2 Fate
[19:10:12] <Bronzdragon> Can I have a candy?
[19:10:22] <Apsup> no.
[19:10:55] <Bronzdragon> =O =(
[19:10:56] <Apsup> apreche: I did one thing, got an arrow to my gut and started to burn a new character. No much space for artha getting.
[19:11:22] <apreche> if you went into the line of fire in service of your belief, that should be worth a lot more than a fate.
[19:11:50] <apreche> or if you went in, even though doing so went directly against everything you believe.
[19:12:07] <apreche> if you went and got shot for no reason, then yeah, you get nothing.
[19:13:18] <Apsup> It was loosely related to a belief, thus faith.
[19:13:22] <Apsup> fate*
[19:13:26] <Apsup> whatever.
[19:13:37] <apreche> lesson: don't risk your life if you don't believe in what you are doing.
[19:14:46] <Bronzdragon> Can... can I start believing in what I'm doing as I'm doing it?
[19:14:53] <apreche> no
[19:15:10] <apreche> but you can change right after!
[19:15:18] <Bronzdragon> Boo, game is broken!
[19:15:18] <apreche> like, let's say you are in the woods
[19:15:23] <apreche> and there are some bandits
[19:15:26] <apreche> you don't really care about bandits
[19:15:29] <apreche> but then one shoots you
[19:15:56] <apreche> now you really fucking hate bandits, and vow that you will not rest without vengeance upon them.
[19:15:57] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[19:16:14] <apreche> so next time you see bandits and get your bloody revenge, big score!
[19:16:38] <Apsup> What if you hate bandits and are hunting them, but they find you first and shoot you?
[19:16:40] <apreche> or next time you meet nice bandits, recognize not all bandits are evil, and end up joining them.
[19:16:54] <apreche> that's fine too
[19:16:58] <apreche> you don't have to succeed
[19:17:07] <apreche> you just have to be fighting for what you believe
[19:17:08] <Apsup> That kinda happened to me, but with orcs.
[19:17:41] <apreche> Orcs are a LOT more dangerous than bandits.
[19:18:17] <Apsup> No shit! Too bad I was fanatic paladin type who believed that his god would protect him.
[19:18:17] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[19:18:30] <Apsup> Sun gods just aren't too protective in the middle of the night.
[19:19:07] <apreche> NOPE
[19:19:23] <apreche> Oh please got, sav... OW OW OW
[19:19:30] <Apsup> Whole campaing I've tried to dance between foolishly brave and not suicidal, rush into risky situations, but not in sure deaths.
[19:19:52] <Bronzdragon> LEEEEROOOOOOY
[19:20:04] <apreche> put an instinct on that shit and get some pooooints
[19:20:05] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[19:31:06] <yoshokatana> here we go, resume old (http://cl.ly/0r2T3m0T3Z38) vs new (http://cl.ly/0D1p3C341j15)
[19:32:29] <spacejam_> oh good
[19:32:40] <spacejam_> i couldn't hire someone who didn't include the logos of companies in their resume
[19:32:59] <spacejam_> speaking in non-sarcasm, it looks better but i didn't have any problems with the first one
[19:33:03] <yoshokatana> hah
[19:33:04] <yoshokatana> yeah
[19:33:19] <yoshokatana> I think this has better information hierarchy, though
[19:33:28] <yoshokatana> the jobs are more delineated
[19:33:28] <spacejam_> aww game design was my favorite bullet point
[19:33:44] <yoshokatana> I took it off since I already had mechanism design :-/
[19:33:56] <spacejam_> mechanism is vague
[19:33:58] <spacejam_> like, clock?
[19:34:09] <spacejam_> tractor mechanisms
[19:34:26] <yoshokatana> it’s a bit vague to most people, yeah
[19:34:27] <yoshokatana> but http://en.wikipedia.org
[19:34:49] <spacejam_> see once we get to this point they're not looking at your resume anymore
[19:35:06] <yoshokatana> haha usually at this point I’m in an interview talking about game theory
[19:35:37] <spacejam_> do you use game design at any of your jobs? they all look like straight up frontend
[19:36:05] <yoshokatana> I use a bit of mechanism (and game) design doing UX stuff
[19:36:30] <spacejam_> you should get a buzzfeed resume
[19:36:41] <yoshokatana> a whowhat?
[19:36:43] <spacejam_> You Won't Believe What He Did to This Startup's Website...
[19:36:49] <yoshokatana> hah
[19:37:13] <spacejam_> 10 Simple Ways You Can Get a Better Clickthrough Rate
[19:37:19] <spacejam_> (that actually is probably a real article)
[19:39:38] <yoshokatana> ew
[19:40:07] <yoshokatana> I think I’m going to quit web work and never do anything ever again now
[19:40:28] <Bronzdragon> That's the spirit!
[19:40:47] <pence> quit web work play board games all day
[19:40:52] <yoshokatana> ^
[19:47:33] <apreche> PAX tix is happening super soon
[19:48:13] <pence> my f5 is ready
[19:48:22] <apreche> I alreayd hit F5 a few times
[19:49:04] <spacejam_> how much is a 4 day
[19:49:36] <apreche> $110
[19:49:59] <apreche> You save $30 vs. buying 4 1-days
[19:50:06] <spacejam_> hrmbrm
[19:50:14] <spacejam_> but if i only want 3 day it's 20 more
[19:50:17] <spacejam_> to get a 4
[19:50:29] <apreche> why would you go 3, but not 4-days?
[19:50:33] <apreche> what day are you skipping?
[19:50:42] <spacejam_> i haven't thought that far ahead
[19:51:00] <apreche> you know the Monday is Labor Day, so...
[19:51:07] <apreche> there's really no reason to do 3 days
[19:51:37] <pence> four days of PAX is almost too much PAX... but it's not too much PAX.
[19:51:49] <apreche> no such thing
[19:51:54] <spacejam_> wonder when they'll have weeklong pax
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[19:53:15] <pence> just do the joco cruise thing and have a PAX cruise ship
[19:53:33] <apreche> NOPE, I do not want to be trapped on a boat with "that guy"
[19:55:43] <yoshokatana> ^
[19:56:10] <yoshokatana> other things that happen on cruise ships: sickness, pirates
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[19:56:37] <apreche> sinking
[19:56:52] <apreche> and then you're in a lifeboat with "that guy"
[19:56:56] <yoshokatana> expensive things that shouldn’t be expensive
[19:57:12] <spacejam> 100Mbps
[19:58:04] <pence> I assume there's no middle ground for food on a cruise ship, it's either a dress code with good food, or a pizza place with crap pizza
[19:58:41] <yoshokatana> that sounds about right
[20:03:24] <Bronzdragon> I'm tired, gonna sleep
[20:03:30] <Bronzdragon> Cya'll later.
[20:03:35] <pence> later
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[20:13:25] <Apsup> On a thing that no one but me cares about. Tonight is the season finalle of the Arrow.
[20:20:07] <apreche> tonight is the night I can download some new Adventure Times
[20:20:16] <apreche> well, I could haev done it earlier, but I was busy
[20:22:11] <pence> the new ep was written by the person who wrote root beer guy
[20:24:19] <Apsup> I should catch up on adventure time.
[20:24:34] <apreche> the start of the newest season especially
[20:24:49] <apreche> Pretty SRS BSNS
[20:26:15] <pence> finn and jake are technically fugitives at this point
[20:26:41] <Apsup> It's season 6 now right?
[20:26:46] <apreche> that must be episodes I haven't seen
[20:26:46] <pence> yeah
[20:26:57] <apreche> last I saw was James II
[20:27:06] <Apsup> Ok, so I have about half of season 5 and whatever there is at season 6 to be watched.
[20:27:07] <apreche> love how James has the Brak voice actor
[20:27:10] <apreche> I think that guy can only do one voice
[20:27:22] <pence> well I mean, since they had to commit a cosmic crime
[20:27:47] <pence> if there's more than one cosmic prison that might eventually catch up to them
[20:28:54] <pence> and yeah, andy merrill was on space ghost once as "himself" doing that voice
[20:29:03] <pence> but it was like, a character version of himself
[20:32:27] <pence> http://www.youtube.com also this
[20:33:20] <GauntletWizard> http://www.adafruit.com
[20:33:22] <GauntletWizard> Goddamnit
[20:33:29] <GauntletWizard> I wish I'd just ordered that a million years ago
[20:47:57] <apreche> yeah, the prototype shield is pretty necessary for Pi or Arduino work
[20:48:02] <apreche> first thing I got for arduiono
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[20:51:37] <apreche> PAX tix, I swear to god
[20:51:43] <apreche> do not go on sale while I am subwaying home.
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[20:53:30] <pence> s/subway/driv/g
[20:53:54] <pence> also I need to go shopping but now I don't want to step away from a computer...
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