#geeknights | Logs for 2014-01-08

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[06:27:08] <Bronzdragon> Hello
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[08:32:32] <Aria> Yo
[08:33:01] <Aria> I lost same data today before power went out and I didn't save
[08:33:37] <Aria> I kinda expected gedit to keep temp backups of my unsaved documents
[08:33:43] <Aria> because* not before
[08:34:12] <Aria> So that was exciting
[08:36:57] <Bronzdragon> Oh hey
[08:37:06] <Aria> Hey you
[08:37:11] <Bronzdragon> I see, that is exciting
[08:37:48] <Aria> Also lost a form I was filling out, but that application I didn't expect to keep my stuff safe
[08:38:07] <Aria> In fact, I don't trust it to write to a file correctly most times
[08:38:08] <Bronzdragon> I see.
[08:42:16] <Bronzdragon> I'm eating soup for breakfast
[08:44:18] <Aria> Could be worse
[08:44:25] <Aria> You could be eating something else!
[08:44:33] <Bronzdragon> Yup.
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[10:08:27] <Bronzdragon> Yo, Apsup.
[10:26:04] <Apsup> Morning.
[10:33:58] <Bronzdragon> Upto your usual antics?
[10:35:21] <Apsup> Just put on my morning coffees to brew.
[10:35:23] <Apsup> So yes.
[10:35:48] <Bronzdragon> It must be nice to wake up this late.
[10:36:23] <Apsup> Well, went to sleep very late too, so didn't even get that long sleep.
[10:40:36] <Aria> It must be nice to get to sleep...
[10:41:09] <Bronzdragon> C'mon, Aria, you slept like, 5 hours at least
[10:42:41] <Apsup> What is this shit? In TV there is an cop show, abot alaskan cops. Cop first asks person to stand on one leg, list alphabets and do stuff like that and in the end he just uses an alcometer to see if the guy is over the limit.
[10:42:55] <Apsup> Why did the cop make the guy do all that shit in the first place?
[10:42:56] <Aria> http://imgur.com
[10:44:17] <Aria> That's cool.
[10:45:15] <Bronzdragon> Because alchochol meters can be cheated
[10:45:51] <Apsup> And standing on one leg is totally reliable way to measure drunkness?
[10:46:02] <Aria> Oh mans
[10:46:11] <Aria> I should've started on the other lunch bag
[10:46:39] <Aria> One was filled with delicious treats
[10:46:42] <Aria> the other with stones
[10:46:53] <Bronzdragon> It's not, but y'know, two tests are better than one?
[10:47:02] <Bronzdragon> Also, the cops just think it's funny to make you stand on one leg
[10:47:13] <Bronzdragon> Stones, you say?
[10:47:35] <Aria> Yes. Stones with cucumbers in them
[10:47:49] <Bronzdragon> Okay, so I got a large version of the Cheat Engine logo, cut it out so it's just a cyan(-ish) version of itself.
[10:48:05] <Bronzdragon> It looks really bad though, because it's too flat, and not very rounded
[10:48:21] <Bronzdragon> A shadow would make it look better but... I'm not using photoshop, so I don't know how to add one!
[10:49:41] <Aria> Ok, hover your hand over the power off button on your computer
[10:49:51] <Aria> then move your hand 1m to the left
[10:49:53] <Aria> and press down
[10:50:02] <Aria> and then move your butt one meter to the left
[10:50:09] <Aria> and continue working
[10:52:49] <Bronzdragon> Ah, I see.
[10:52:58] <Bronzdragon> But... your keyboard is bellow your screen
[10:53:02] <Bronzdragon> I can't reach it there.
[10:53:10] <Bronzdragon> #FirstWorldProblems ?
[10:53:32] <Bronzdragon> Anyway, I solved it by using a different logo now.
[10:53:36] <Aria> You don't need it to add a shadow in photoshop
[10:53:39] <Aria> use the mouse
[10:53:59] <Bronzdragon> But... I need the file.
[10:54:15] <Aria> Can also be aquired without a keyboard
[10:54:32] <Bronzdragon> Sounds like effort
[10:54:50] <Bronzdragon> Besides, Paint.net actually opens a PNG with opacity correctly
[10:54:54] <Bronzdragon> Unlike photoshop.
[10:55:11] <Aria> ... =( It is true.
[10:55:19] <Aria> But so does GIMP
[10:55:32] <Aria> I guess that only makes it worse
[10:55:37] <Bronzdragon> But gimp has too many buttons.
[10:56:11] <Bronzdragon> #FOSSWorldProblems
[10:59:54] <Aria> GIMP has too many spreadsheets*
[11:00:00] <Aria> Actually, Gimp has too many /everything/
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[11:37:27] <Bronzdragon> 'sup Cybylt.
[11:37:37] <Cybylt> Hi Bronzdragon
[11:37:49] <Cybylt> How was christmas and new years?
[11:38:05] <Bronzdragon> 'T was alright, thanks for askin'
[11:38:29] <Bronzdragon> How about yourself? Did you enjoy your vacation?
[11:38:43] <Cybylt> I played Uno with the family while watching the twilight zone marathon for new years
[11:39:15] <Cybylt> One game went on a bit over an hour because nobody ever had the same colors
[11:39:39] <Bronzdragon> Uno is weird.
[11:39:51] <Bronzdragon> It's weird seeing it packeged up and all 'official'.
[11:39:55] <Cybylt> http://www.games-workshop.com
[11:40:02] <Cybylt> and I got that for christmas
[11:40:10] <Cybylt> still got four broadsides to go
[11:40:18] <Cybylt> and Link Between Worlds
[11:40:40] <Bronzdragon> Wait, does that set come with UAVs?
[11:40:50] <Cybylt> 14
[11:40:57] <Cybylt> still gotta do 12 of those too
[11:41:14] <Bronzdragon> Paint them all in different colours!
[11:41:18] <Cybylt> I only did the shielded missile drones of the Riptide so far when it comes to them
[11:41:29] <Cybylt> I kinda like my uniform colors though
[11:41:34] <Bronzdragon> Each mech gets a different color stripe, and 2 UAVs
[11:41:48] <Bronzdragon> What is your scheme?
[11:41:57] <Cybylt> Farsight colors
[11:42:00] <Cybylt> which is to say, Char colors
[11:42:55] <Cybylt> in GW paints, Mephiston Red, Abbadon Black, Ceramite White for drybrushing, and Celestra Grey
[11:43:06] <Cybylt> with the occasional golden yellow strip to denote rank
[11:43:23] <Bronzdragon> I've only painted with off-brand.
[11:43:30] <Bronzdragon> y'know, "Black" "Greenish-grey"
[11:43:46] <Bronzdragon> Yes, I did actually have a colour named "Greenish-grey".
[11:43:56] <Cybylt> Bright red, black, light grey, white
[11:44:16] <Bronzdragon> Those sound like fine colours.
[11:44:23] <Bronzdragon> You should post a picture of your handywork.
[11:44:27] <Cybylt> they are
[11:44:34] <Cybylt> http://www.games-workshop.com
[11:45:00] <Cybylt> that's the colors if you're someone with enough skill to paint them for money, and also using airbrushes and an endless supply of paint
[11:45:09] <Bronzdragon> Man, you must be a good painter, if the Games-Workshop puts up your handicraft.
[11:45:44] <Cybylt> I'm not that kind of person, also I prefer my stuff to look more warn in so there's much more drybrushing done to give the paint "scratches"
[11:46:27] <Cybylt> http://www.fusedcreations.com
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[11:50:05] <Cybylt> like?
[11:50:06] <Cybylt> awww
[11:50:14] <Bronzdragon> Well, that didn't last very long...
[11:50:44] <Bronzdragon> Like such: http://www.youtube.com
[11:51:21] <Cybylt> ahh
[11:53:15] <Cybylt> New things I like with these models. No more god damn metal or resin in the broadsides
[11:53:25] <Cybylt> just nice, easy to model and glue plastic
[11:53:39] <Aria> Man
[11:53:41] <Cybylt> and they have easy to snip off pegs on the joints to make them posable
[11:53:48] <Aria> Opera opens links in the current open tab
[11:53:49] <Aria> its the worst
[11:54:19] <Bronzdragon> They're posable?
[11:54:36] <Cybylt> yeah, well, before you glue the joints
[11:55:03] <Bronzdragon> Oh, ah, I see.
[11:55:29] <Cybylt> though the riptide's gun arm can be held on by friction alone
[11:55:32] <Cybylt> which is nice
[12:03:18] <Cybylt> Anyway, what have you been up to?
[12:03:27] <Bronzdragon> Stuff.
[12:03:38] <Bronzdragon> Sitting here.
[12:08:38] <Aria> How's your mod coming along?
[12:08:49] <Cybylt> Mod?
[12:08:59] <Aria> Bronz
[12:09:04] <Bronzdragon> It's... in the planning stages of starting?
[12:09:06] <Aria> Oh, when I said links, I meant like, from IRC
[12:09:18] <Aria> not when I click on a link from reddit
[12:09:29] <Aria> Get to work already
[12:09:40] <Aria> You've been awake for 7 hours.
[12:09:46] <Bronzdragon> I know.
[12:09:54] <Bronzdragon> I did some work already a little bit.
[12:10:13] <Aria> Does magic work?
[12:10:26] <Aria> Also, hello Cybylt,
[12:10:29] <Cybylt> What is this mod for?
[12:10:31] <Cybylt> Hello Aria
[12:10:39] <Aria> Wanna help Bronzdragon make magic work?
[12:10:44] <Aria> Dark Souls
[12:11:30] <Aria> (What else?)
[12:11:30] <Cybylt> If I am able, sure
[12:11:43] <Aria> Ok. it's pretty easy actually
[12:11:52] <Aria> every hour, just ask "is magic working?"
[12:12:02] <Cybylt> alright
[12:12:07] <Bronzdragon> ... Recruitin' Cybylt, eh?
[12:12:10] <Cybylt> I think I can do that
[12:12:17] <Cybylt> and will start now
[12:12:21] <Cybylt> Is magic working?
[12:12:33] <Aria> Don't be rude, answer him
[12:13:27] <Bronzdragon> ...
[12:13:28] <Bronzdragon> Not yet.
[12:13:37] <Bronzdragon> I haven't started, to be honest.
[12:14:09] <Cybylt> What exactly is the goal aside from working magic? And what does that even mean?
[12:14:29] <Cybylt> For some reason it just makes me think you're trying to put Dragon's Dogma spells into it, which I am all for
[12:14:44] <Bronzdragon> Not quite
[12:14:46] <Cybylt> because Dragon's Dogma casting is the best casting of all time
[12:14:50] <Bronzdragon> Know that random weapon mod?
[12:14:54] <Cybylt> Yeah
[12:14:57] <Bronzdragon> I'm trying to do that for classes
[12:15:04] <Bronzdragon> Which includes changing out magics.
[12:15:12] <Bronzdragon> Which is harder than it should be.
[12:15:19] <Aria> Working magic means that magic can be forcefully equipped and that it can keep track of uses
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[12:15:34] <Cyb> Damn you shitty ISP
[12:15:42] <Bronzdragon> Hello again
[12:15:46] <Cyb> Hello
[12:15:49] <Bronzdragon> How much you got of that?
[12:15:56] <Cyb> last part I got was "I'm trying to do that for classes"
[12:16:16] <Aria> He did armor, rings and weapons very quickly, so gotta give him props for that. But items and things you attune work differently, so its more work
[12:16:38] <Bronzdragon> http://i.imgur.com
[12:16:49] <Aria> !
[12:16:53] <Bronzdragon> It's a dangerous business, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.
[12:16:54] <Aria> That was quick
[12:16:55] <Aria> good job
[12:17:15] <Bronzdragon> Okay, I'll start now
[12:17:23] <Aria> Oh.
[12:17:23] <Cyb> so it randomly swaps stats and attunements and stuff now and then?
[12:17:25] <Aria> nvm...
[12:17:32] <Cyb> and you basically do class gamble as you play
[12:17:36] <Bronzdragon> Well, based on pre-defined classes
[12:17:42] <Cyb> Right
[12:17:53] <Cyb> Variety of different min-maxes I assume?
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[12:18:08] <Bronzdragon> Basically, it gives the same feel of the random weapon mod, but all the classes are guaranteed to work
[12:18:09] Cyb is now known as Cybylt
[12:18:11] <Cybylt> Woo!
[12:18:15] <Aria> It swaps stats and equipment every minute while playing, But all the builds are balanced and viable builds
[12:18:26] <Bronzdragon> y'know, if you register your nick, you can kick him off with your password.
[12:19:02] <Cybylt> How do I go about doing that?
[12:20:15] <Aria> http://www.unrealircd.com
[12:20:18] <Aria> There is the manual
[12:21:07] <Bronzdragon> /msg ChanServ help
[12:21:57] <Bronzdragon> Weirdly, that doesn't work...
[12:22:15] <Bronzdragon> Oh, right, Dark souls doesn't work yet.
[12:22:24] <Aria> Oh? Maybe you should consult the manual to see how it's done?
[12:22:42] <Cybylt> I am looking through it
[12:23:33] <Bronzdragon> In google, when you google for "Games for Windows Life", there are 5 wrong links before the correct one.
[12:23:43] <Bronzdragon> First one is the PC section on xbox.com (useless)
[12:23:54] <Bronzdragon> Second is, uh... oh it's correct
[12:23:57] <Cybylt> Live
[12:23:59] <Bronzdragon> Still xbox.com though
[12:23:59] <Aria> That is because it is Games for Windows /Live/
[12:24:08] <Aria> You damned Dutch person
[12:24:20] <Bronzdragon> Oh, I googled correct, but typed over wrong. I apologizeilate
[12:29:29] <Bronzdragon> Man, downloading my profile sure takes a long time
[12:29:52] <Bronzdragon> You'd think that since the abolishment of GFWL, they'd tie it into the Win8 xbox functionality
[12:30:01] <Bronzdragon> And my profile is already downloaded on win8
[12:30:28] <Cybylt> I think I found it
[12:30:31] <Cybylt> maybe
[12:31:09] <Bronzdragon> Maybe?
[12:31:38] <Bronzdragon> Once you register your nickname, you'll have to identify next time. (Some servers allow you to keep the nick, even if you don't identify).
[12:31:48] <Bronzdragon> Most clients allow you to auto-identify though.
[12:32:02] <Cybylt> /msg nickserv <pass> <email>
[12:32:19] <Bronzdragon> Aha, almost!
[12:32:48] <Bronzdragon> Actually, you need to type /msg Bronzdragon <password>.
[12:34:05] <Cybylt> is /join #geeknights a shortcut instead of going through the /server and stuff?
[12:34:44] <Aria> Hrm?
[12:34:51] <Bronzdragon> No, /join is a command that works on whatever is your currently active server
[12:34:58] <Aria> No /j geeknights is said to the server
[12:35:03] <Aria> if you aren't on the server, it won't work
[12:35:03] <Cybylt> ah
[12:35:12] <Cybylt> alright
[12:35:20] <Bronzdragon> What client are you using?
[12:35:35] <Bronzdragon> Most have an 'auto-connect' list you can use, which is pretty easy.
[12:35:41] <Cybylt> I'm using xchat
[12:35:52] <Bronzdragon> Ah, press Ctrl+S
[12:36:00] <Bronzdragon> Go to the server you want, set it to auto-connect
[12:36:09] <Bronzdragon> Then, under favourite channels, add #geeknights.
[12:36:16] <Bronzdragon> Then, every time you start it up, it instantly connects.
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[12:37:42] <Bronzdragon> Hello there.
[12:37:45] <cyb> alright, that one was my fault
[12:38:01] <Bronzdragon> =P
[12:38:15] <Aria> Which xchat?
[12:38:36] <Bronzdragon> Xchat is a program made for Linux, that's not ported to Windows.
[12:38:52] <Bronzdragon> Unofficial attempts have been made, such as Hexchat, and Ychat/Xchat 2
[12:39:27] <cyb> Not a clue, whichever one Aria directed me to when I first joined because I was and am still clueless about IRC stuff
[12:39:37] <cyb> XChat 2
[12:39:52] <Bronzdragon> My instructions work for your client.
[12:41:18] <cyb> I got the networks list, and foonetic is not among them, does it go by another name?
[12:41:39] <Bronzdragon> Nope, just means it's not yet in there.
[12:41:46] <Bronzdragon> you'll have to add it manually.
[12:42:01] <Bronzdragon> (I remember foonetic not being in there...
[12:42:18] <Aria> (you need irc.) before foonetic.net
[12:44:23] <cyb> I think I got it? Added it to the list, under the connection it's set to /server irc.foonetic.net and then under channel it's #geeknights
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[12:45:57] <Bronzdragon> Did it work?
[12:46:25] <Gah> I got a blank screen and now all both of my nicknames aren't available for another few minutes
[12:46:36] <Bronzdragon> Also, did you type "/server irc.foonetic.net" or "irc.foonetic.net"?
[12:46:47] <Bronzdragon> And where did you type this?
[12:47:23] <Gah> the former, under "Servers for Foonetic"
[12:47:49] <Bronzdragon> I see. Your network list looks like this, right?
[12:47:51] <Bronzdragon> https://grove.io
[12:48:01] <Bronzdragon> One of those says foonetic, right? Click Edit
[12:48:12] <Gah> Yeah pretty much
[12:48:13] <Gah> I have
[12:48:19] <Bronzdragon> Then you get a ascreen like this: http://www.marcelgagne.com
[12:48:37] <Gah> and in that top box it's now irc.foonetic.net
[12:48:37] <Bronzdragon> Under servers, click add, then type "irc.foonetic.net". Nothing more, nothing less.
[12:48:52] <Gah> and under channels to join is #geeknights
[12:49:03] <Bronzdragon> Under connecting, check auto connect. Then you're set.
[12:49:35] <Gah> Thanks
[12:49:38] <Bronzdragon> Oh, in the server settings, you can set which nicks to try to use, by order of importance.
[12:50:17] <Gah> I have it set to use the global list
[12:50:24] <Bronzdragon> This reminds me I need to set up my client too.
[12:50:35] <Bronzdragon> But it's just I'm too lazy to edit the config file =P
[12:51:30] <Gah> Unrelated note, after playing Last Remnant on PC, I understand the lazy ported controls complaint
[12:52:02] <Gah> I'm more than willing to go "Eh" about it with a real time game, but when you fuck it up on take turn rpg combat...
[12:52:05] <Gah> HOW!?
[12:52:20] <Gah> at least you can fix the keybindings
[12:52:27] <Gah> but those defaults are retarded
[12:53:03] <Gah> So, Space and Enter is equal to A on an xbox controller... except when they stand in for Right Trigger and Start
[12:53:20] <Gah> the directional keys navigate menus and control the camera
[12:53:22] <Gah> at the same time
[12:53:23] <Gah> always
[12:53:51] <Gah> Esc = Y except in battle and in QTEs where it's O
[12:54:12] <Gah> and X is Z and M unless you're in a menu, then it's Shift
[12:54:13] <Bronzdragon> Just... play with a controller then.
[12:54:21] <Gah> I am, but one isn't always available to me
[12:54:50] <Bronzdragon> Also, keyboards have more buttons. It makes sense to use them.
[12:55:01] <Bronzdragon> That's better than games not using them at all.
[12:55:26] <Gah> it does, what doesn't make sense is to completely change the control layout based on whether you're in or out of battle or in a shop
[12:55:31] <Gah> and they even change within battle
[12:55:42] <Bronzdragon> Btw, are you running Xchat 2 in your icon tray multiple times?
[12:55:43] <Gah> because QTEs have a different control layout than every other part of battle
[12:55:48] <Gah> No
[12:55:51] <Gah> I made sure of that
[12:55:58] <Gah> so I don't know what's going on
[12:56:07] <Bronzdragon> You're definetly still connected and responding
[12:56:23] <Bronzdragon> Are you connected to this server multiple times in the same client?
[12:56:37] <Gah> Might be
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[12:57:32] <Bronzdragon> Well, that's a bit more than was strictly neccecary.
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[12:57:43] <Bronzdragon> Herro!
[12:57:46] <Cybylt> There we go
[12:57:49] <Bronzdragon> Did it work as expected?
[12:57:54] <Cybylt> guess I was connected multiple times in the same client
[12:57:55] <Cybylt> and yes
[12:57:58] <Cybylt> autoconnected
[12:58:06] <Bronzdragon> Aww yis.
[12:58:32] <Aria> Congrats
[12:58:33] <Cybylt> whatever tiny amount of IRC knowledge I had will now slowly dissolve as I don't use it :D
[12:58:53] <Aria> And we always have like 10 controllers available, so I can't relate =P
[12:59:06] <Aria> Also, man that game
[12:59:13] <Aria> I've only played about 30 minutes
[12:59:17] <Aria> but those fights are so fast!
[12:59:17] <Cybylt> My brother and I just share one, and we typically don't want to use it at the same time
[12:59:19] <Aria> Its so awesome
[12:59:36] <Cybylt> I hated it in my teens
[12:59:50] <Aria> What Last Remnant?
[12:59:54] <Cybylt> but upon learning it was actually supposed to be "New SaGa Frontier" it makes so much more sense
[12:59:56] <Aria> isn't Last Remnant a 360 game?
[13:00:00] <Aria> It looks pretty good on PC
[13:00:01] <Cybylt> it's on PC now
[13:00:04] <Aria> Well, pretty decent
[13:00:04] <Cybylt> and it is
[13:00:09] <Cybylt> much better on pc
[13:00:17] <Cybylt> I played 360 one in my teens
[13:00:20] <Aria> Has some texture pop in for me
[13:00:21] <Cybylt> and 360 one is broken
[13:00:24] <Aria> How old are you?
[13:00:32] <Cybylt> I get some screen tears on my craptop
[13:00:33] <Cybylt> 24
[13:00:40] <Aria> ...What counts as teens?
[13:00:43] <Cybylt> 17
[13:00:48] <Cybylt> wait
[13:00:51] <Aria> Hrm, lemme just do some math...
[13:00:58] <Cybylt> I keep thinking Infinite Undiscovery
[13:01:05] <Aria> yeah, ok, checks out
[13:01:06] <Cybylt> that game was 07 or something
[13:01:10] <Aria> That's on PC as well?
[13:01:14] <Aria> How about Last Oddesy?
[13:01:17] <Aria> I wanted Last Oddesy
[13:01:22] <Aria> but couldn't find it on the pirate bay
[13:01:27] <Aria> so I got Last Remnant instead
[13:01:42] <Cybylt> Neither of those, I just mixed up Infinite and Remnant because they were the two "Square's not making FF" titles a bit earlier on in the gen
[13:02:00] <Cybylt> poor Tri-Ace deserved better than Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4...
[13:02:24] <Cybylt> those localization dubs were awful, and I'm someone who's usually fine with fairly bad dubs
[13:02:51] <Aria> ...Also, Last Remnant has that cat dude with 4 arms
[13:03:00] <Cybylt> Infinite Undiscovery peaked when the protagonist called a woman a terrible mother for letting her children join the party in the quest to save the world
[13:03:06] <Aria> And 2 of them are constantly crossed. I liked that dude
[13:03:09] <Cybylt> because they were ten and he finds them annoying
[13:03:13] <Aria> I should play some more last remnant
[13:03:20] <Cybylt> and also because she's a bad mother for letting her kids go fight monsters
[13:03:24] <Cybylt> Those guys are fun
[13:03:41] <Cybylt> top arms always imposingly outward
[13:03:46] <Cybylt> bottom arms folded
[13:03:55] <Aria> Yes
[13:03:58] <Aria> Its so great
[13:04:22] <Cybylt> and their class specialty is quad wielding
[13:04:46] <Cybylt> some of his power attacks are two handing two swords
[13:05:10] <Cybylt> and then you got the giant fish men, and the frograbbits
[13:05:11] <Cybylt> and humans
[13:05:22] <Cybylt> But yeah
[13:05:27] <Cybylt> I like this game for punishing grinding
[13:05:32] <Cybylt> you got your level, and gear, and whatnot
[13:05:37] <Cybylt> but then you have Battle Rank
[13:05:49] <Cybylt> and Battle Rank grows at a static rate based on number of encounters
[13:06:02] <Cybylt> so the trick is to aggro as many monsters into one encounter at once to max out on rewards
[13:06:09] <Cybylt> because all other rewards are exponential
[13:06:30] <Bronzdragon> The game did such a bad job explaining that.
[13:06:34] <Cybylt> It sure did
[13:06:47] <Cybylt> and that wasn't even true in the 360 one because it was bugged
[13:07:19] <Cybylt> instead, Battle Rank had a really low base rate, and grew at an even greater exponential rate to number of enemies linked per encounter
[13:07:26] <Cybylt> PC fixed that
[13:08:02] <Cybylt> PC also no longer has the "Leader" moniker, so you can have full parties of unique characters instead of capping out at five total in a twenty man army
[13:08:47] <Cybylt> like I said, it was supposed to be a SaGa game, and with that in mind it makes a lot more sense
[13:09:10] <Cybylt> because SaGa is a very specific brand of obtuse game design that comes from a japanese developer trying to make a tabletop game as a videogame
[13:09:48] <Cybylt> and it feels so rewarding once you understand the systems and completely destroy everything
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[13:15:40] <Aria> So it still doesn't work
[13:16:31] <Cyb> Well, the autoconnect does, just not the register
[13:17:30] <Aria> Register is usally pretty straight forward "/msg nickserv register cyb abcd1234 cyb@cybmail.com" or something like that
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[13:18:57] <Bronzdragon> You wouldn't have to include your nickname, since, y'know, presumably you're using it already
[13:19:18] <Bronzdragon> I should note though, when I tried to message nickserv, I couldn't, for whatever reason
[13:19:29] <Aria> Apparently we've traveled back in time
[13:19:30] <Aria> http://i.imgur.com
[13:19:33] <Aria> Look at the audience
[13:20:08] <Cybylt> they're actually using CG models for more than the first row? They're years ahead of wresting gsames
[13:20:11] <Cybylt> games*
[13:20:51] <Bronzdragon> Forza called, they want their audience back.
[13:21:27] <Bronzdragon> I was going to do something, but now I forgot.
[13:21:29] <Bronzdragon> =/
[13:22:39] <Cybylt> I try to register and it tells me I have no valid email addresses
[13:23:05] <Bronzdragon> Okay, type /msg nickserv help register
[13:23:08] <Bronzdragon> It'll tell you what to do
[13:23:38] <Cybylt> wait a minute, I think I realized my mistake, I was keeping the <>
[13:24:03] <Cybylt> Registered
[13:25:14] <Bronzdragon> Good job!
[13:25:42] <Bronzdragon> Now, you can set it up to auto-identify for you.
[13:26:00] <Bronzdragon> When setting up a network, there's a box for your nickserv password. Use that.
[13:26:07] <Bronzdragon> (Or don't, I'm not your boss!)
[13:28:04] <Bronzdragon> "Framerate insufficient for online play, returning to menu"/
[13:28:10] <Bronzdragon> THANKS OBAMAM.
[13:28:34] <Bronzdragon> "Last time you quit the game improperly"
[13:28:40] <Bronzdragon> THAT WAS YOU, DARK SOULS
[13:35:45] <Bronzdragon> ...
[13:36:10] <Bronzdragon> I see there's a slight issue.
[13:36:25] <Bronzdragon> I cannot cheat and get Fire Whip the pyromancy
[13:36:37] <Bronzdragon> Because all I get is a whip along the fire upgrade path
[13:42:39] <Aria> You have the ID for firewhip
[13:42:44] <Aria> Also hello
[13:42:47] <Aria> I was in a meeting
[13:42:49] <Aria> I am back now
[13:43:00] <Bronzdragon> A meeting?
[13:43:02] <Bronzdragon> Really?
[13:43:06] <Aria> Yes.
[13:43:37] <Aria> Also Im really cold. Fuck.
[13:44:29] <Bronzdragon> ....
[13:44:30] <Bronzdragon> Fuck.
[13:44:47] <Bronzdragon> When switching back to Dark souls (while standing in front of the merchant), I accidentally punched him
[13:44:52] <Bronzdragon> He aggroed on me.
[13:44:59] <Bronzdragon> He's my only way of getting fresh items D=
[13:45:41] <Aria> Just resolve
[13:45:45] <Aria> like a man
[13:52:51] <Aria> So what are you two (three? is apsup online?) up to?
[13:53:15] <Cybylt> At the moment, not a lot
[13:53:23] <Cybylt> You?
[13:53:40] <Aria> Trying to find entertainment that is mute
[13:54:00] <Cybylt> It's not even that cold over here, but the wind chill at night in the morning sucks. Like it goes down to 30f but the wind goes right through you
[13:54:08] <Cybylt> and it messes with my back
[13:54:09] <Aria> I fixed the cold
[13:54:23] <Cybylt> and I miss the not quite cold but super foggy days winter in this place is supposed to have
[13:54:58] <Cybylt> Like, so foggy that mystery music from P4, or alternately the static in Silent Hill started going off in my head
[14:00:21] <Aria> Im bored
[14:00:31] <Aria> I bought Ninja Blade
[14:00:36] <Aria> but it thinks I pirated it
[14:00:39] <Aria> so I can't play
[14:00:56] <Cybylt> guess it's time to actually pirate it then
[14:01:09] <Aria> I also bought Driver San Francisco, but the framerate is like 1.
[14:01:24] <Aria> (it has no reason to be. It looks like shit)
[14:01:31] <Aria> Also LA Noire
[14:01:44] <Aria> Actually, pretty sure I pirated that one
[14:01:55] <Bronzdragon> You did.
[14:01:58] <Bronzdragon> Though xbox version.
[14:02:10] <Aria> Huh?
[14:02:21] <Bronzdragon> La NOIRE
[14:02:23] <Aria> Was I.. playing with some sort of translation layer? That would explain the performance
[14:02:39] <Aria> Nope I was not
[14:03:04] <Aria> It was a proper Windows version =P
[14:03:33] <Aria> Look at you, trying to trick me into thinking I can play Dragons Dogma
[14:03:49] <Cybylt> get it on PS3
[14:03:58] <Cybylt> best action rpg
[14:03:58] <Aria> Don't have one
[14:04:05] <Cybylt> get a ps3
[14:04:07] <Cybylt> they're getting cheap
[14:04:10] <Bronzdragon> 3 hit gargoyle kill
[14:04:12] <Aria> And PS3 would be as inconvenient as 360
[14:04:13] <Bronzdragon> Dang I so good!
[14:04:33] <Aria> Which is too inconvenient for me to use it
[14:04:37] <Cybylt> Its online features are unobtrusive and it actually has exclusives still
[14:04:47] <Aria> Though I do plan on getting a PS3 eventually
[14:04:49] <Cybylt> and Persona 5 is coming to it
[14:04:53] <Cybylt> and it's region-free
[14:05:09] <Aria> So that I can play the ryuu ga gotoku games. And Demon Souls
[14:05:38] <Aria> Bronz hasn't played MGS4, so we'd be getting that. Overall, a decently sized list of things we want that are only on PS3
[14:05:42] <Aria> But theyre still like 200 bucks
[14:05:44] <Cybylt> I'm still sad the Meiji era one wasn't localized
[14:05:46] <Aria> Which is 150 too many
[14:06:00] <Cybylt> I like Way of the Samurai, I like Yakuza, and this is both
[14:10:07] <Aria> brb
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[14:22:56] <Aria> back
[14:26:20] <Aria> Right, going home, afk for a big
[14:26:32] <Bronzdragon> ok
[14:26:37] <Bronzdragon> Cya soon.
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[15:11:43] <Bronzdragon> hello again, Cybylt
[15:11:47] <Bronzdragon> Hello yoshokatana.
[15:11:54] <Cybylt> Hello, Bronz
[15:11:57] <yoshokatana> morning
[15:12:01] <yoshokatana> NEED MORE COFFEE
[15:12:13] <Cybylt> I want hot chocolate
[15:13:06] <Bronzdragon> Hot chocolate or coffee is fine with me
[15:13:11] <Bronzdragon> I'm not picky like that.
[15:13:20] <Cybylt> also I'm odd because I like coffee black, but with a pastry with it. Can't stand sweetened coffee
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[15:15:31] <Cyb> How do I do that password sign in thing?
[15:17:14] <Bronzdragon> Hmm?
[15:17:20] <Bronzdragon> Oh, kick inactive nick?
[15:17:36] <Bronzdragon> I think it's /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
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[15:18:16] <Bronzdragon> There ya go
[15:19:20] <Bronzdragon> You can make an alias, a shortcut
[15:19:39] <Bronzdragon> Go to settings > advanced > user commands
[15:21:09] <Cybylt> Okay
[15:23:53] <Bronzdragon> Okay.
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