#geeknights | Logs for 2013-04-26

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[00:57:27] <yoshokatana> yay, FNPL #66 is done
[00:57:31] <yoshokatana> time for to eat burrito
[01:01:32] <Apsup> That was fast. Didn't it just start?
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[10:09:27] <Bronzdragon> 'sup gusy?
[10:13:53] <Apsup> Afternoon Bro Dragon.
[10:14:03] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup
[10:16:40] <Apsup> Monaco is little too fun. I try to not to play it so I could have fresh co-op experience at some point, but I can't not play it.
[10:17:55] <Bronzdragon> #firstworldproblems
[10:18:19] <Bronzdragon> Also, Apreche clearly missed out on a newsletter art contest
[10:18:36] <Bronzdragon> I would've totally submitted to possibly (though unlikely) win some monacco.
[10:19:44] <Apsup> Watching Strip Search has made me want to draw again. Going to take my tablet with me as I today leave to visit my parents.
[10:20:55] <Bronzdragon> So... I watched the first episode
[10:20:59] <Bronzdragon> And it was boring as all hell
[10:22:31] <Apsup> Yea, it took me a few weeks after watching the first episode to get to the second. Then I wathced all available episodes in few days.
[10:22:45] <Bronzdragon> I see...
[10:23:22] <Apsup> Elimination episodes are definitely the high point of the show, rest is more of an hit or miss.
[10:24:14] <Bronzdragon> Ah, I see.
[10:24:30] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, the first episode didn't seem to live up to LLR quality.
[10:24:38] <Bronzdragon> Then again, I've not liked some of their stuff before so...
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[13:27:19] <Bronzdragon> 'sup nine?
[13:38:56] <nine> Hi Bronz.
[13:39:03] <nine> Just downloading my chinese animated pornography.
[13:45:51] <nine> http://www.flickr.com
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[14:18:45] <Bronzdragon> That's a pretty nice looking limo
[14:20:38] <nine> ...
[14:20:45] <nine> You forgot a keyword.
[14:20:52] <Bronzdragon> No I didn't?
[14:20:59] <nine> Yeah you did.
[14:21:18] <nine> LEGO limo.
[14:21:24] <nine> Check your priviledge.
[14:21:57] <Bronzdragon> What limo could I possibly be talking about?
[14:22:06] <Bronzdragon> Lego is implied by virtue of being the only limo
[14:22:24] <nine> There's real ones you know.
[14:22:30] <nine> And LEGO is not implied from a Flickr link.
[14:22:39] <Bronzdragon> Additionally, you knew which limo I meant. Adding lego would be superfluous
[14:22:57] <Bronzdragon> Well, I assumed you looked at the link you yourself posted.
[14:23:08] <Bronzdragon> I suppose that's my fatal flaw, is it not?
[14:23:22] <nine> Also, I want to petition Steam to change "I verify that I live in the Netherlands" when picking iDeal as payment option to something like "I verify that I'm totally baller and live in a kick ass country that has got its shit straight"
[14:23:23] <Robobuntoo> ...
[14:23:40] <nine> Robocuntoo! <3
[14:23:41] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[14:24:41] <Bronzdragon> I hear ya.
[14:24:50] <Bronzdragon> Ireland kind of sucks.
[14:25:19] <Bronzdragon> Did I ever tell you on how we have a deal with our ISP for 100, are paying for 25, and are really getting only like, 9 average?
[14:25:21] <nine> What's Ireland got to do with iDeal?
[14:25:26] <Bronzdragon> (talkin' mb/s)
[14:25:32] <Bronzdragon> I live in Ireland now
[14:25:39] <nine> WHY THE FUCK.
[14:25:40] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[14:25:41] <Bronzdragon> So I don't got no iDeal anymore
[14:25:44] <nine> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
[14:25:52] <nine> YOU CRAZY PERSON.
[14:26:05] <nine> ARIA DOESN'T EVEN LIVE NEAR THAT PLACE.
[14:26:19] <nine> Seriously though, why and since when?
[14:28:19] <Bronzdragon> Well, Aria lives here now
[14:28:22] <Bronzdragon> Has for like, 3 weeks...
[14:28:26] <Bronzdragon> So I moved in with him.
[14:28:31] <nine> O_o
[14:28:32] <Bronzdragon> He works here for IBM.
[14:28:36] <nine> Da fawk aria!
[14:28:41] <Bronzdragon> Actually, 'nordic processors'.
[14:28:47] <Bronzdragon> Which is totally not a fake company
[14:28:51] <Bronzdragon> Also, don't tell anyone.
[14:28:58] <nine> Tax company.
[14:29:01] <nine> Oh joy.
[14:29:21] <Bronzdragon> Actually, 's different reasons
[14:29:27] <Bronzdragon> Stupider reasons
[14:29:59] <nine> What's a more stupid reason that tax evasion?
[14:30:04] <nine> than*
[14:31:14] <Bronzdragon> IBM provides tech support to other companies for pay, right?
[14:31:25] <nine> I guess.
[14:31:33] <Bronzdragon> And this one company thinks it would look bad if they got tech support from IBM. Because... some reason
[14:31:44] <nine> :¬|
[14:31:47] <Bronzdragon> So aria works for and provides tech support to 'nordic proccessors'.
[14:31:56] <nine> To?
[14:31:58] <nine> Or from?
[14:32:17] <Bronzdragon> Technically, he works for NP, and provides support to NP
[14:32:26] <Bronzdragon> In reality, he works for IBM, and supports Nordea.
[14:32:28] <nine> Fuck everything.
[14:32:29] <Robobuntoo> ...
[14:32:30] <nine> Don't care.
[14:32:31] <nine> It's stupid.
[14:32:34] <Bronzdragon> It is
[14:32:39] <Bronzdragon> I'm glad we agree
[14:32:41] <nine> At least he gets money.
[14:32:44] <Bronzdragon> So, what do I do for lunch?
[14:33:02] <nine> Sucks that he has to suffer Ireland, but at least now he will learn what the sun is.
[14:33:05] <nine> If it stops raining.
[14:33:11] <Bronzdragon> I have spaghetti, rice, chicken, ground beef, tomato sauce, sweet and sour sause, paprika and break.
[14:33:13] <nine> Have lamb.
[14:33:15] <Bronzdragon> *bread, shush
[14:33:17] <nine> Shit must be cheap there.
[14:33:18] <Robobuntoo> ...
[14:33:19] <Bronzdragon> Maaan, lamb is pricy.
[14:33:23] <nine> Wait, that's Wales, nvm.
[14:33:45] <Bronzdragon> Listen, they don't... 'eat' their sheep
[14:33:47] <Bronzdragon> Just breed.
[14:34:12] <nine> No, they sell the corpses of the ones that died of old age.
[14:34:36] <nine> Anyways, enjoy your bread.
[14:35:17] <Bronzdragon> Yay
[14:35:19] <Bronzdragon> Okay, imma make some now
[14:35:24] <Bronzdragon> Cheers or something.
[14:41:20] <nine> Yaybe!
[14:49:35] <nine> I love the perverted nature of the Monogatari series.
[14:50:31] <apreche> you know it's trouble if I hit this IRC so early on Friday
[14:50:45] <nine> Yeah, get a job.
[14:50:51] <Bronzdragon> I'll say, it's barely 4!
[14:51:03] <Bronzdragon> *not even
[14:51:07] <Bronzdragon> I always say it backward.
[14:51:12] <apreche> it's not even 11AM here. 6 more hours until Netrunning.
[14:51:13] <apreche> bleh
[14:51:33] <nine> Get a job.
[14:51:41] <apreche> I did all my job already.
[14:51:48] <Bronzdragon> Get MORE job
[14:51:54] <apreche> but they make me stay here otherwise they don't give memone
[14:51:56] <nine> That's not possible if you actually have a job.
[14:51:57] <apreche> y
[14:52:00] <Bronzdragon> Alternativly, edumacate your bosses
[14:52:09] <nine> A job doesn't just run out of work unless it's bankrupt.
[14:52:17] <apreche> I am just so efficient.
[14:52:28] <nine> Again, a job doesn't just run out of work.
[14:52:35] <apreche> but I'm needed because when more work shows up, nobody can do it but me
[14:52:36] <nine> Go fucking do shit mr. I am just so efficient
[14:52:53] <apreche> programming is not a factory job
[14:53:04] <apreche> bugs show up, I fix them all
[14:53:11] <apreche> people ask for features, I make them all
[14:53:16] <apreche> then I wait for more bugs or more feature requests
[14:53:32] <nine> Without initiative at all?
[14:53:35] <nine> No wonder there's bugs.
[14:53:49] <Bronzdragon> Man, I have no clue how I'm going to drain this rice...
[14:53:54] <apreche> initiative for what
[14:54:02] <nine> Fixing your shit.
[14:54:03] <Bronzdragon> I have no lid for this pot, nor do I have a sive
[14:54:08] <Bronzdragon> sive? sive.
[14:54:09] <apreche> there's nothing to fix
[14:54:12] <nine> Sieve.
[14:54:21] <nine> Then why do you get bug reports?
[14:54:25] <apreche> from QA
[14:54:38] <nine> Because there's shit to fix.
[14:54:40] <apreche> who says all shit is currently fixed
[14:54:54] <nine> Probably not.
[14:55:01] <apreche> not my job to find it
[14:55:07] <apreche> so maybe QA will find something
[14:55:09] <apreche> but probalby not
[14:55:18] <nine> It's not your job to maintain the code?
[14:55:20] <nine> Then why fix bugs?
[14:55:29] <apreche> it's not my job to find the bugs
[14:55:32] <apreche> just fix them
[14:56:10] <nine> Such an easy excuse to waste your employer's money.
[14:56:31] <apreche> they're wasting their own money.
[14:56:40] <nine> It no longer really surprises me when someone from the US moans about having no vacation days.
[14:56:41] <apreche> they know I sit around and watch YouTube and such.
[14:56:49] <nine> They're always on the forums during working hours!
[14:56:58] <apreche> yeah, they should just let me go home
[14:57:02] <apreche> they make me sit here pointlessly
[14:57:08] <nine> They should just assign you work.
[14:57:13] <apreche> but they don't.
[14:57:16] <nine> Or continue waiting and hoping you show some initiative.
[14:57:21] <apreche> and when they do, I finish it way faster than they expect.
[14:57:29] <nine> Can't really blame them they don't.
[14:57:29] <apreche> they don't allow me to have initiative
[14:57:31] <nine> They're from the US.
[14:57:47] <nine> Don't allow you? Have you even tried?
[14:57:54] <apreche> Anything that I WANT to do is rejected
[14:58:05] <nine> We're talking about a job.
[14:58:12] <apreche> because it is usually nicer for customers and bad for business.
[14:58:16] <nine> Not everything you want to do is done at a job.
[14:58:36] <apreche> I would do my own thing, but then my employer would own it.
[14:58:42] <apreche> so if I made a video game right now, it would belong to them.
[14:58:53] <nine> Then take on less hours.
[14:58:59] <apreche> i can't have less hours
[14:59:06] <apreche> it's a salary position
[14:59:10] <apreche> I get the same money no matter what
[14:59:11] <nine> Advertise yourself of only needing to be paid x less hours, yet produce as much as a full workweek!
[14:59:17] <apreche> i've tried that
[14:59:18] <nine> Bah.
[14:59:23] <apreche> they demand I sit here 40 hours a week no matter what
[14:59:25] <nine> Stupid employers.
[14:59:39] <apreche> almost no employers actually allow flex time
[14:59:41] <apreche> I have looked
[14:59:50] <apreche> this one is actually good in that they only ask for 40 hours
[14:59:52] <apreche> and even less in summer
[14:59:55] <apreche> most are asking for way more
[15:00:00] <nine> I'd either give you work or kick you out of the office instead of letting you waste both of our time.
[15:00:09] <apreche> I would do the same thing if I was a boss
[15:00:17] <nine> More than 40 hours?
[15:00:18] <nine> Wut?
[15:00:37] <apreche> most startups that try to recruit me expect me to work 60+ hours and give them my whole life
[15:00:48] <apreche> so when I tell them I refuse to work more than 40 per week, they just give up.
[15:01:00] <apreche> which is why I don't work with startups
[15:01:01] <nine> They're lunatics.
[15:01:15] <apreche> that they are
[15:01:22] <nine> How the fuck are they even going to pay someone for the overtime rate after 40 hours without being huge fucking dicks in the contract.
[15:01:31] <apreche> there is no overtime
[15:01:32] <apreche> it's a salary
[15:01:47] <apreche> you get $X no matter how many hours you work
[15:01:49] <Bronzdragon> I'm pretty sure in Dutch law, you can't make people work more than 40 hours, even if you wanted to.
[15:01:53] <nine> I consider everything past 40 hours in a week overtime to be paid extra and seperately.
[15:02:54] <apreche> I just leave work exactly at 5 no matter what.
[15:03:09] <apreche> and if they try to make me stay, which never happens, I just say no.
[15:03:54] <nine> They're already fucking you over with demanding you sit in an office for 40 hours without providing work.
[15:04:29] <Bronzdragon> ... Wait, they're fucking apreche for 40 hours for work?
[15:04:35] <Bronzdragon> Is that like... a porn company?
[15:04:45] <nine> Close enough.
[15:05:11] <nine> They both start with the letters, 'O', 'P' and 'R'.
[15:05:52] <nine> Bronz, do you know that full "number of letters in the alfabet" in Dutch?
[15:06:04] <nine> ABC kapt ermee, KLM is weg gevlogen, etc?
[15:06:57] <Bronzdragon> I honsetly have no idea what you're talking about.
[15:07:18] <nine> You've never had someone make the joke to you?
[15:07:27] <nine> Hoeveel letters heeft het alfabet?
[15:08:01] <nine> ...
[15:08:08] <nine> You're really bad at this.
[15:08:10] <Bronzdragon> Oh, I see.
[15:08:24] <Bronzdragon> You just missed some words
[15:08:35] <Bronzdragon> So I thought the question in itself was a poorly formed joke.
[15:08:37] <nine> KLM is weggevlogen is the staple one.
[15:08:41] <nine> But I've heard more than just that.
[15:08:48] <nine> Ending up with a lot less letters than 26.
[15:09:01] <nine> You're terrible.
[15:09:13] <nine> I'm not really surprised since you decided to go to Ireland!
[15:10:46] <nine> Alright, what to watch, Doters, Nekomonogatari, or Chihayafuru?
[15:14:12] <nine> Useless audience in here. :|
[15:14:34] <nine> I give you something to do and you don't take it! Y U SO BAD?
[15:14:41] <nine> You had literally one job. ONE JOB.
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[15:17:55] <nine> Yo Yosho.
[15:18:10] <yoshokatana> hi nine
[15:18:38] <nine> These others here are dicks and won't do the one job I gave them.
[15:18:51] <nine> So would you be so kind as to tell me what I should watch?
[15:19:06] <nine> I have 3 options, so I can't flip a coin.
[15:19:09] <yoshokatana> watch?
[15:19:14] <yoshokatana> what are your options
[15:19:26] <nine> Doters, Nekomonogatari or Chihayafuru.
[15:25:58] <yoshokatana> I have no idea what almost any of those are
[15:36:21] <nine> Two are anime.
[15:36:26] <nine> One's just Dota 2.
[15:36:40] <yoshokatana> hmm
[15:36:45] <yoshokatana> I'd say dota
[15:36:54] <nine> Good guess.
[15:36:58] <nine> I'm watching doters.
[15:44:09] <nine> "first game skywrath mage in competitive -> instant dual lane + 50 ganks"
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[17:51:47] <Apsup> I hate my old laptop. It's slow as hell. Especially annoying now that I haven't used this on two months and everything tries to update at once.
[17:56:33] <nine> Just chillax.
[17:56:37] <nine> Let it do it's thing.
[17:56:44] <nine> You don't need that much to browse interwebs.
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[18:08:18] <Apsup> excep I hafta update Firefox too.
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[20:01:23] <apreche> all the new Netrunner card spoilers
[20:01:25] <apreche> oh my glob
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