#geeknights | Logs for 2013-04-05

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[00:32:14] <Cybylt> Oh rainbow roll, you are the perfect food for the end of work
[00:33:08] <Cybylt> Hello again Bronzdragon
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[00:37:28] <Bronzdragon> ...
[00:37:30] <Bronzdragon> =O
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[07:58:54] <woodchuck> Goodmorning...If you have slept yet.
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[10:29:41] <Bronzdragon> 'ello
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[12:35:51] <Bronzdragon> Aria!
[12:35:55] <Bronzdragon> There you are!
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[12:46:41] <Bronzdragon> hai again Neito
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[15:03:32] <Bronzdragon> Hello again Apsup
[15:06:29] <Apsup> yo
[15:06:47] <Bronzdragon> How's it goin'?
[15:10:09] <Apsup> nuthing special. Parents might visit tomorrow so I prpbably have to clean up a bit today.
[15:11:20] <Bronzdragon> I see.
[15:11:52] <Apsup> So life is full of excitement like usual.
[15:23:02] <AriaMibbit> Herro
[15:23:19] <AriaMibbit> Im in Ireland doing Irish things
[15:23:29] <AriaMibbit> Also being really hungry, because fuck Pizza hut
[15:23:54] <Bronzdragon> Tell them about the tracker!
[15:24:32] <AriaMibbit> After realizing Pizza Hut wasn't gonna acknowledge my order or the money I paid for it, I ordered from Apache Pizza. Their website is a billion times better
[15:24:52] <AriaMibbit> And they send you an confirmation, which has a link to a "order tracker"
[15:25:12] <AriaMibbit> Where it shows your ticket, and it's progress. My pizza is currently "in the oven"
[15:35:23] <AriaMibbit> So um.. how long should it be "in the oven"? Cause it's been like 15 minutes
[15:35:27] <AriaMibbit> and Im super hungry
[15:37:56] <Bronzdragon> 10 to 15 minutes
[15:37:59] <Bronzdragon> Source: http://www.simplyrecipes.com
[15:38:55] <AriaMibbit> Internet hiccup
[15:39:01] <AriaMibbit> Thanks
[15:39:05] <AriaMibbit> This song is pretty cool
[15:39:30] <Bronzdragon> The song?
[15:39:58] <AriaMibbit> They sent me a blank email..
[15:40:04] <AriaMibbit> "Calafornia" it sings.
[15:40:07] <AriaMibbit> Cali?
[15:40:10] <AriaMibbit> California?
[15:40:12] <AriaMibbit> yes that
[15:40:27] <Bronzdragon> Well, there is a song called California
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[16:09:38] <apreche> pretty early to be resorting to my last-resort work speeder upper
[16:09:41] <apreche> but it's Friday
[16:09:56] <Bronzdragon> Indeed
[16:10:06] <Bronzdragon> Does IRC actually do anything to speed up your work day?
[16:10:19] <Bronzdragon> Because it doesn't seem like you actually have any conversations at all.
[16:10:50] <apreche> it makes it feel faster than scrolling up and down a page of links I've already read
[16:10:55] <apreche> or reloading the forum that has no new posts
[16:11:03] <Bronzdragon> That's fair.
[16:11:21] <apreche> maybe I'll make some netrunner decks with the online deck maker
[16:11:25] <Bronzdragon> Say, out of curiosity, what would your ruling have been, had I not won my last match in round one?
[16:11:27] <AriaMibbit> Is Apache is a America pizza chain?
[16:11:41] <AriaMibbit> If so: Good on you. I didn't expect a pizza chain to technology so well
[16:11:53] <apreche> what happened with your match in round 1?
[16:12:24] <Bronzdragon> I was on track to win with a gammon, but my opponent closed his client before i could score that
[16:12:32] <Bronzdragon> I was at 3, he at 4.
[16:12:45] <Bronzdragon> (I won the last match with 4 points, so it didn't matter much in the end)
[16:13:04] <apreche> OH REALLY
[16:13:25] <apreche> rage quitting?!
[16:13:31] <apreche> let's see who that was
[16:13:38] <Bronzdragon> Well, my opponent forgot that gammons were an option
[16:13:49] <Bronzdragon> and he was mathmatically eliminated from winning the game.
[16:13:57] <apreche> Jaytee
[16:14:09] <Bronzdragon> Yup, correct.
[16:14:28] <apreche> so what exactly happened, did he rage quit after realizing it was way bad
[16:14:44] <apreche> did he try to say it was a network error?
[16:14:48] <Bronzdragon> Nah, he said "Oh, I guess you won, we don't need to finish this round".
[16:14:49] <Bronzdragon> And then quit
[16:14:56] <Bronzdragon> And I said "Nooo" but it was too late
[16:14:59] <Bronzdragon> And he apologized
[16:15:15] <apreche> oh, ok
[16:15:28] <apreche> so it's not shady
[16:15:44] <apreche> he thought he was just giving you the one point and then moving on to the last game
[16:15:49] <Bronzdragon> Yes.
[16:16:19] <apreche> I want to come up with a rule for forefeiting, but lackofcheese will probably yell at me for being wrong again
[16:16:34] <apreche> but if someone wants to forfeit, the opponent can just double, and they can not accept
[16:16:39] <apreche> or if the forfeiter has the cube
[16:16:41] <AriaMibbit> I think that depends on the rule =P
[16:16:45] <apreche> they can double, and then get doubled on and then quit
[16:17:11] <apreche> so just use the cube to quit
[16:17:16] <Bronzdragon> Well, I purposfully wouldn't double, because clearly, they'd decline, and I'd only have one point
[16:17:24] <Bronzdragon> I didn't wanna quit, because I would win.
[16:17:32] <Bronzdragon> The round, I mean.
[16:17:33] <apreche> right
[16:17:33] <Bronzdragon> Match?
[16:17:37] <apreche> which is why you double on him
[16:18:00] <apreche> I have to figure out which software will work at work..
[16:18:06] <Bronzdragon> But if I double, and I decline, we'd be at 4/4, whereas if I win with a gammon, I would be at 5/4
[16:18:30] <apreche> yes, that is true
[16:18:33] <apreche> how interesting this game is!
[16:18:48] <apreche> perhaps your mistake was not doubling earlier when the gammon was not so apparent
[16:19:07] <Bronzdragon> Nah, I threw a bunch of doubles at the end, which decided the game.
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[16:19:20] <apreche> ok, so yahoo games no work at work because I don't have java installed
[16:19:24] <apreche> and don't feel like installing it
[16:19:33] <Bronzdragon> ... virtual box?
[16:19:42] <apreche> ok, so that will be ready in an hour
[16:19:58] <Bronzdragon> Perfect way to fill your time
[16:20:03] <apreche> haha, no
[16:21:32] <apreche> hmm, this Microsoft one might work
[16:21:53] <Bronzdragon> Microsoft has a backgammon game?
[16:22:06] <Bronzdragon> It probably doesn't come with a doubling cube, almost none do.
[16:22:14] <apreche> ok, i'll just install java then
[16:22:38] <apreche> but not the Ask Toolbar, fuck you Oracle!
[16:23:25] <Apsup> The thing that me and Dromaro used on our first round had doubling cube, but othervise it was a piece of shit.
[16:23:39] <apreche> ok, so I'm on Yahoo! Games Social Lobster Lagoon
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[16:24:20] <apreche> ok, yeah everyone is leaving work
[16:24:26] <apreche> boss took half day, and he's working from home anyway
[16:24:27] <Bronzdragon> Oh noes!
[16:24:30] <apreche> one co-worker showed up way late
[16:24:36] <apreche> super ghost town
[16:24:39] <apreche> super nothing to do
[16:24:49] <Bronzdragon> Grab a broom, or a vacuum.
[16:24:52] <apreche> once work ends, though, super exciting
[16:25:00] <apreche> Netrunner, MoCCA, Netrunner
[16:26:00] <Bronzdragon> Maaan, don't make me jealous with all your Netrunnin'
[16:26:19] <apreche> I'm just like that Microsoft guy talking about always-on Internet
[16:26:19] <Apsup> Oh, it's MoCCA weekend? That's pretty much automatic wendsday episode there.
[16:26:28] <apreche> cities are pretty awesome to live in
[16:26:54] <apreche> Apsup: indeed
[16:27:02] <Apsup> Except you are not ruining your companys name in the front of potential customers.
[16:27:20] <Bronzdragon> Don't worry, apreche's getting to that.
[16:27:34] <Apsup> Some people seem to not have grasped that social media thing very well yet.
[16:27:43] <apreche> I also understand that the thing I'm saying is jerky on purpose.
[16:27:45] <Bronzdragon> Y'know what's a personal irk of mine? Oh, you don't care? Fair enough
[16:28:08] <apreche> so did you actually want to play?
[16:28:24] <Bronzdragon> Netrunner?
[16:28:27] <apreche> Backgammo
[16:28:43] <Bronzdragon> I don't remember asking, but I don't have anything better to do
[16:28:51] <Bronzdragon> So sure
[16:28:53] <apreche> you said "Match?"
[16:29:15] <Bronzdragon> Oh, I wasn't sure what the definition I was supposed to use was
[16:29:27] <apreche> a match is a set of games
[16:29:30] <Bronzdragon> Wether the potential 9 games would be a match, a round, or something else
[16:29:44] <Bronzdragon> So 9 games in a match, and sever matches in a grand prix round?
[16:29:51] <apreche> in each round each player plays one match against one opponent
[16:30:50] <apreche> like in Tennis
[16:30:52] <apreche> game, set, match
[16:31:08] <Bronzdragon> Wait, a round is only one match?
[16:31:30] <apreche> tyhe round is the collection of all the matches of all the players
[16:31:32] <Bronzdragon> I thought this round had 6 matches.
[16:32:08] <apreche> cheater
[16:32:34] <Bronzdragon> Sorry...
[16:32:42] <Bronzdragon> I'll cheat more subtly next time
[16:33:07] <Bronzdragon> ..
[16:33:09] <apreche> ORLY
[16:33:22] <Bronzdragon> Okay, I lied
[16:33:32] <apreche> might have to ban yahoo games
[16:33:49] <apreche> if it is this vulnerable to hax
[16:34:05] <Bronzdragon> Well, thsi tournament is honor bound anyway
[16:34:26] <Bronzdragon> Or should I say Honour.
[16:35:13] <Bronzdragon> "Undo granted"?
[16:35:24] <apreche> i used undo halfway through my turn
[16:35:29] <apreche> so automatically accepted
[16:35:33] <apreche> if I try to undo my whole turn, you have to agree
[16:35:37] <Bronzdragon> I see...
[16:35:38] <Bronzdragon> Fair enough
[16:35:49] <Bronzdragon> This interface is not terrible, actually
[16:35:59] <apreche> yeah, it's good once you get past the yahoo bullshit
[16:36:08] <apreche> I used to play this exact thing in the late '90s
[16:36:10] <apreche> it's that old
[16:37:08] <Bronzdragon> This is not going great for me, I think I'm not good at this game.
[16:37:17] <apreche> stop leaving your guys open!
[16:37:25] <Bronzdragon> ... I suppose that would be a start.
[16:37:35] <apreche> notice how I'm super conservative
[16:37:41] <apreche> I don't leave one guy alone unless he is far away
[16:38:09] <Apsup> I sometimes try to be conservative, and then the dice decide to hate me.
[16:38:28] <apreche> no ones!
[16:38:31] <apreche> shit
[16:38:34] <apreche> i was forced to do that
[16:38:39] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, I know
[16:38:43] <Bronzdragon> It was really unlucky for you
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[16:39:25] <Bronzdragon> `ello Cybylt
[16:39:31] <Cybylt> Hello
[16:40:05] <Cybylt> I learned terrible things happened yesterday. Somebody jumped off a bridge into traffic on the highway by where I live
[16:40:11] <apreche> shiiit
[16:40:18] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, 's pretty unlucky
[16:40:21] <apreche> haha
[16:40:27] <Bronzdragon> ...
[16:40:29] <Bronzdragon> couldn't be worse
[16:40:29] <Cybylt> Unlucky? I think they jumped on purpose
[16:40:40] <Cybylt> and wanted to make a spectacle because they were a douche
[16:40:44] <Bronzdragon> Well, yeah, but it's still unlucky for you.
[16:41:02] <apreche> crap
[16:41:10] <Bronzdragon> You're still ahead by 2
[16:41:18] <Cybylt> I didn't have to go onto the highway or anything, just saw it stopped as I went by it on the way to work yesterday. Then heard why at work
[16:41:18] <apreche> nooo
[16:41:19] <Bronzdragon> Nevermind
[16:41:22] <apreche> it's 40 to 13
[16:41:29] <Bronzdragon> Right
[16:41:29] <Cybylt> along with old people saying it used to be worse
[16:41:36] <Bronzdragon> That's how you do this, right?
[16:41:41] <Cybylt> with papers keeping a running tab on which bridge had the most jumpers
[16:41:47] <Cybylt> Golden Gate was the winner
[16:41:53] <Bronzdragon> "winner"
[16:41:59] <Cybylt> yeah, "winner"
[16:42:28] <Cybylt> apparently taxis now have a rule not to take anyone to it from 9pm to 5am
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[16:45:11] <Bronzdragon> tat was not lucky
[16:45:13] <Bronzdragon> *That
[16:45:27] <apreche> the odds of rolling any single number with two dice is 1/3
[16:45:33] <apreche> there were two numbers you did not want me to roll
[16:45:37] <apreche> so 2/3 odds you were in bad shape
[16:45:51] <Bronzdragon> that's fair
[16:47:42] <Bronzdragon> Not sure what to do there.
[16:47:47] <Bronzdragon> All options seemed crappy
[16:48:32] <Bronzdragon> >__>
[16:49:07] <AriaMibbit> What are you two playing?
[16:49:14] <Bronzdragon> Backgammon.
[16:49:15] <AriaMibbit> Also this Mibbit ad...
[16:50:05] <Bronzdragon> May not have been the best move...
[16:50:12] <apreche> take me off, your 3 is open
[16:50:20] <apreche> you might get me with a 6
[16:50:25] <apreche> but also block up that guy?
[16:50:28] <apreche> in the same roll
[16:50:37] <AriaMibbit> It's some fake-Korean pay to win MMO with a sexy lady (dark skin, purple hair, but asian face...) in the ad, and it says "She has no safe word" "Play Free"
[16:51:03] <Bronzdragon> Well, I'm not gonna win by getting to the end faster, so I'll have to take a risk, right?
[16:51:16] <apreche> cheat to get double sixes again
[16:51:23] <Bronzdragon> ... oh yeah!
[16:51:26] <Bronzdragon> Good idea
[16:51:41] <Bronzdragon> That helps
[16:52:22] <apreche> oh no, my gammons
[16:52:30] <Bronzdragon> Too bad.
[16:53:07] <Bronzdragon> That helps a bit...
[16:53:33] <Bronzdragon> Well, you won, I think
[16:53:37] <apreche> yes
[16:54:24] <Bronzdragon> cheater.
[16:54:37] <apreche> i found your hax on google
[16:55:41] <Bronzdragon> Interesting
[16:55:49] <apreche> fuk
[16:55:57] <Bronzdragon> You could've shielded that stone
[16:56:00] <Bronzdragon> And still blocked a space
[16:56:30] <apreche> i was greedy
[16:56:34] <Bronzdragon> It happens
[16:57:07] <Bronzdragon> So am I
[16:57:12] <Bronzdragon> This won't be bad for me at ALL
[16:57:18] <Bronzdragon> ... it wasn't?
[16:57:46] <Bronzdragon> Ah, much better.
[16:57:55] <apreche> oh crap
[16:58:06] <Bronzdragon> Hmm?
[16:58:14] <apreche> my maths were wrong
[16:58:27] <Bronzdragon> Math is hard, so that's fair
[16:58:37] <Bronzdragon> Aww, that easy?
[16:58:47] <Bronzdragon> Maybe I don't double early enough...
[16:58:51] <apreche> i'm very conservative
[16:59:09] <Bronzdragon> That's true.
[16:59:17] <Bronzdragon> I'm not keeping score, btw.
[16:59:22] <Bronzdragon> Does yahoo do?
[16:59:29] <apreche> yeah, you have some total points
[16:59:31] <apreche> like thousands
[16:59:37] <apreche> and it moves them between players
[17:00:01] <Bronzdragon> I see.
[17:01:37] <Bronzdragon> Stop throwing 1/2 or 1/1
[17:01:39] <Bronzdragon> It's bad for you
[17:01:42] <apreche> no kidding
[17:02:15] <Bronzdragon> ...
[17:02:29] <apreche> you sure this isn't hax 4 real?
[17:02:59] <Bronzdragon> Nah, I wouldn't hax the tournament organizer in a friendly game
[17:03:04] <Bronzdragon> Would give away my edge, man
[17:03:34] <Bronzdragon> ...
[17:03:51] <Bronzdragon> ..
[17:03:59] <apreche> all the doubles
[17:04:03] <Bronzdragon> Yup
[17:04:10] <Apsup> Remember odds will always betray.
[17:04:21] <Bronzdragon> I have 11 stones on the 1 row
[17:04:28] <apreche> yes
[17:04:31] <Bronzdragon> Gammon is likely, I'd say
[17:04:39] <apreche> i narrowly avoided the backgammon
[17:04:57] <Bronzdragon> It helps I had to move all my stones forward
[17:04:57] <apreche> dem 1s
[17:05:37] <Bronzdragon> Wait, it says I won the game
[17:05:41] <Bronzdragon> Just 'won'?
[17:06:27] <Bronzdragon> =O
[17:06:48] <Apsup> congratulations.
[17:07:15] <Bronzdragon> Well, that happens when you constantly throw doubles...
[17:07:19] <Bronzdragon> Eventually, you win.
[17:08:53] <AriaMibbit> Were you expecting a special victory?
[17:08:53] <AriaMibbit> Also, it's 18
[17:09:05] <Bronzdragon> 18?
[17:09:07] <AriaMibbit> Im tired and have a slight headache
[17:09:10] <Bronzdragon> 18.00
[17:09:16] <AriaMibbit> 18:00
[17:09:28] <Bronzdragon> (Not the best move)
[17:09:36] <apreche> it's 13:09
[17:09:42] <Apsup> 20:10
[17:09:42] <AriaMibbit> Do I stay in all day, or do I go sign a phone contract?
[17:10:00] <Bronzdragon> brb
[17:10:22] <AriaMibbit> Wait, it's 20:10 for Apsup? But you're supposed to have Europe time..
[17:10:22] <AriaMibbit> I'm in Ireland currently
[17:10:22] <AriaMibbit> so 1 hour earlier
[17:10:22] <Robobuntoo> You can't 20 ten fors!
[17:10:25] <Bronzdragon> I am back
[17:11:38] <Apsup> Europe is big. We have many timezones.
[17:12:12] <Bronzdragon> This was a bad move, but eh.
[17:12:41] <Apsup> Not to mention summer-/wintertimes which are not universal.
[17:12:53] <apreche> going to finish your turn?
[17:12:55] <Bronzdragon> Did you go to sumertime yet?
[17:12:59] <Bronzdragon> My turn is finished
[17:12:59] <Bronzdragon> Osm
[17:13:06] <Bronzdragon> Oh
[17:13:07] <apreche> not on my screen
[17:13:08] <Bronzdragon> Well, fine
[17:13:27] <AriaMibbit> oh, is it because of summer time?
[17:13:34] <AriaMibbit> And no we don't. We realistically only have one
[17:13:43] <AriaMibbit> We have one + UK
[17:13:52] <apreche> lol, double sixes, could only use one
[17:13:57] <Bronzdragon> It happens!
[17:14:12] <Apsup> No it's not summer time. But we normally are in UTC+2, while you were from UTC+1.
[17:14:13] <Bronzdragon> So lucky, you!
[17:14:29] <apreche> it's a race now
[17:14:33] <Bronzdragon> Indeed
[17:14:48] <Bronzdragon> That helps
[17:14:48] <AriaMibbit> And Ireland is one
[17:14:48] <AriaMibbit> Russia doesn't count
[17:14:51] <Apsup> Line between UTC+1 and UTC+2 goes between Sweden and Finland if I remember correctly.
[17:15:11] <AriaMibbit> What other countries are in +2 in Europe?
[17:15:24] <apreche> sigh
[17:15:33] <Bronzdragon> http://www.worldatlas.com
[17:16:05] <Bronzdragon> ...
[17:16:06] <Bronzdragon> x3
[17:16:21] <apreche> it's rigged
[17:16:22] <Bronzdragon> I'm done after this game, I need to eat
[17:16:36] <apreche> i still have a tiny chance
[17:16:39] <Bronzdragon> True
[17:16:45] <Bronzdragon> Nope, sorry
[17:16:45] <apreche> nope
[17:16:51] <apreche> 1/36
[17:17:38] <Bronzdragon> I will now stuff my face with food
[17:17:41] <Apsup> By the way, Steam gave me two discount tickets for Bit.Trip Runner 2. Why would I need two discounts for one game. It's not like they stack.
[17:17:41] <Bronzdragon> Good day
[17:17:45] <apreche> me as well
[17:17:47] <apreche> it is lunch time
[17:17:51] <apreche> I also have those discounts
[17:17:57] <apreche> I haven't beatn bit trip runner
[17:18:03] <apreche> and I think I own them all except void and runner2
[17:18:10] <apreche> what's the correct order of playing them?
[17:18:11] <AriaMibbit> Really...?
[17:18:11] <AriaMibbit> Y'all should cheat and change to europe time.
[17:18:12] <Apsup> I've played like first level of that.
[17:18:12] <AriaMibbit> I'm surprised you haven't, TBH
[17:19:16] <Apsup> When we have only two hours of sunlight at winter, it doesn't really matter which two hours they are.
[17:21:57] <AriaMibbit> Gosh darn it
[17:21:58] <AriaMibbit> The internet here is terribles
[17:26:07] <AriaMibbit> ...you get 2 hours of sunlight?
[17:26:07] <AriaMibbit> Lucky.
[17:27:59] <AriaMibbit> Maaan, what's going on with the internet here? How can it be this bad?
[17:29:00] <AriaMibbit> There's maybe 7 devices connected to this router
[17:29:10] <AriaMibbit> My home router at no time had less than 20.
[17:29:38] <AriaMibbit> And it's in the middle of the city, so their connection can't just be shitty
[17:29:39] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[17:29:51] <AriaMibbit> the shittiest connecton they could get would still be able to handle this
[17:29:51] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[17:29:59] <AriaMibbit> Maybe we're all sharing a single 3G network..
[17:34:30] <AriaMibbit> So I have a Windows computer. Should I get Win phone or Android? I'm not gonna use my phone for anything other than calling and functioning as a access point for my tablet.
[17:38:12] <AriaMibbit> Shit.
[17:38:13] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[17:38:16] <AriaMibbit> Hrm.
[17:38:42] <AriaMibbit> Not entirely sure why the Three website doesn't work
[17:40:41] <AriaMibbit> Seems their js is messed up
[17:41:02] <AriaMibbit> how does this happen? Do they deploy changes as they write them?
[17:43:10] <AriaMibbit> 500 euros for a fucking phone?
[17:43:11] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:11:18] <Bronzdragon> =O
[18:11:22] <Bronzdragon> 500 is expensive
[18:22:49] <AriaMibbit> Hey
[18:22:49] <AriaMibbit> Yes it is
[18:22:55] <AriaMibbit> So... the iPhone is actually the cheapest phone?
[18:23:15] <AriaMibbit> (that meets minimum quality requirements)
[18:24:09] <Bronzdragon> I guess?
[18:24:17] <Bronzdragon> Depends on what your minimum quality requirements are
[18:25:45] <AriaMibbit> I can use it as a wifi accesspoint for my tablet
[18:25:53] <AriaMibbit> It lasts a while
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[18:25:55] <AriaMibbit> doesn't get hot
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[18:26:24] <AriaMibbit> "doesn't get hot" I said before you rejoined
[18:26:36] <Bronzdragon> I see.
[18:26:43] <Bronzdragon> iPhone doesn't count, unless you jailbreak it
[18:28:18] <AriaMibbit> Really..?
[18:28:43] <AriaMibbit> iPhones don't have power management?
[18:29:58] <apreche> you can adjust the brigthness
[18:30:02] <apreche> disable wifi/bluetooth/etc.
[18:30:09] <apreche> but there is no power management directly
[18:30:16] <apreche> that was some spicy curry for lunch there
[18:30:19] <Bronzdragon> Also, I meant connect via wifi.
[18:30:25] <Bronzdragon> (other devices)
[18:30:30] <Bronzdragon> (Use it as a hub)
[18:30:39] <AriaMibbit> ...Huh
[18:30:49] <AriaMibbit> is that because they want you to have 2 plans for your iPhone iPad combo?
[18:31:20] <AriaMibbit> Apreche: I meant automatic power management
[18:31:25] <Bronzdragon> Well, yes, but I remember there being another reason
[18:31:49] <AriaMibbit> Well that's shit.
[18:31:50] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:32:12] <AriaMibbit> But all the Windows phones are expensive as fuck, the Blackberry has a crappy browser
[18:32:13] <Robobuntoo> ...
[18:35:48] <apreche> that Lumia windows phone does have the best camera
[18:36:48] <Bronzdragon> Ah, the windows phone
[18:36:53] <Bronzdragon> That's on the top of my liste
[18:36:54] <Bronzdragon> *list
[18:37:05] <AriaMibbit> Hopefully I'm still here: Fucking testing
[18:37:05] <Robobuntoo> ...
[18:38:04] <Bronzdragon> Are you satisfied with the result?
[18:38:16] <Bronzdragon> Also, you could've mentioned the OO-word instead.
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> I could.
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> Right so
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> HTC 8S and 8X are cool
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> 8X is slightly larger
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> has a better GPU
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> so that means less power
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> and its slightly larger
[18:41:12] <AriaMibbit> On the other side, 8X looks like a Lumia, 8S looks like a Xperia
[18:41:57] <AriaMibbit> What happen?
[18:42:10] <Bronzdragon> You said everything at once.
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[18:42:23] <Bronzdragon> Oh, nevermind then
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[18:42:46] <Aria> What I miss?
[18:43:10] <Bronzdragon> Nothing, nobody said anything
[18:43:14] <Bronzdragon> Though we got your messages
[18:43:23] <Bronzdragon> Delayed, but we got them
[18:43:33] <Aria> Hrm
[18:43:38] <Aria> Which Lumia is the 4:3 one?
[18:44:24] <Aria> 820 is 30 euros, plus 25 a month for 18 months
[18:44:27] <Aria> (which is fucking long)
[18:44:27] <Robobuntoo> ...
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[18:44:53] <apreche> and now something you don't care about or even like
[18:44:57] <Bronzdragon> True, and 25 a month is a bit pricy for never calling.
[18:45:00] <apreche> new SNSD MV
[18:45:02] <apreche> http://www.youtube.com
[18:45:04] <apreche> or at least part of it
[18:45:07] <Bronzdragon> SNSD MV?
[18:45:19] <Bronzdragon> Oh, I see
[18:45:20] <Aria> SNSD is a Korean pop group
[18:45:27] <Aria> they do girly music with silly dances
[18:45:41] <Bronzdragon> So many speech bubbles.
[18:46:02] <Bronzdragon> Why do they have giant novelty esspresso cups?
[18:46:19] <apreche> youre ignoring the gigantic pink rotary phone
[18:46:20] <Bronzdragon> I get the giant phone, because.. well, the song is about phone calls
[18:46:38] <Bronzdragon> Oh! the phone moves!
[18:46:42] <Bronzdragon> OH SHII-
[18:47:06] <Bronzdragon> C'mon! They could've cut it off like, 2 seconds earlier, and it wouldn't be so abrupt
[18:47:17] <apreche> I just want one other person I know to get KPOP infected
[18:47:25] <apreche> that's not the actual end
[18:47:28] <apreche> it's a leak of some kind
[18:47:34] <apreche> full video not out yet
[18:47:54] <Bronzdragon> Yeah, whatever, just edit a tiny bit
[18:48:07] <Bronzdragon> Also, how the hell does a full quality video get "1/3rd" leaked
[18:48:13] <Bronzdragon> c'mon, we both know that wasn't an accidental leak
[18:48:15] <apreche> I think this is still my favorite one http://www.youtube.com
[18:49:35] <Bronzdragon> I wanna know who writes these songs
[18:49:42] <apreche> SM Entertainment
[18:49:55] <apreche> it's basically an army of choreographers and musicians
[18:50:04] <apreche> and they train the talent from childhood
[18:50:25] <Bronzdragon> I wonder how many people they have to train to get one pop-star.
[18:50:32] <Bronzdragon> I assume not everyone makes it, right?
[18:50:32] <apreche> they do a lot of auditions
[18:50:37] <apreche> and then those people become trainees
[18:50:42] <apreche> and then only some of those trainees "debut"
[18:51:13] <apreche> they train them in everything, singing, dancing, acting, everything.
[18:51:28] <apreche> since they also appear in TV shows, movies, commercials, etc.
[18:51:37] <apreche> languages
[18:51:41] <Bronzdragon> I just noticed, not all these outfits are the same.
[18:52:42] <apreche> This is why PSY was so weird. He came to be more like a US artist. He also makes his own music and such.
[18:52:57] <apreche> meanwhile all the other companies have been trying to manufacture it, and were not as successful.
[18:53:14] <Aria> There are plenty of Korean artists who make their own music and aren't "idols"
[18:53:16] <apreche> but the manufacturers are much more fascinating and weird
[18:53:27] <apreche> there are, they just aren't crazy popular
[18:53:30] <Aria> That's just the pretty same-sexed people dance groups
[18:53:39] <apreche> i wish they would make a co-ed one
[18:54:22] <Aria> Psy wasn't crazy popular in Korea
[18:54:43] <Bronzdragon> He had an okay fanbase before he exploded, right?
[18:54:50] <apreche> yeha, it was decent
[18:54:57] <Bronzdragon> And it exploded in America first, right?
[18:55:21] <Aria> Well, on the internet
[18:55:43] <Apsup> Well, that was a game of NS2.
[18:55:58] <Bronzdragon> "a game"?
[18:56:45] <Apsup> Half a of a game to be exact.
[18:57:30] <Bronzdragon> Which half?
[18:58:36] <Aria> There aren't geographical statistics on youtube of Gagnam Style
[18:59:01] <Apsup> Winning half obviously.
[18:59:05] <Bronzdragon> There aren't?
[18:59:27] <Aria> I couldn't find them
[18:59:29] <Bronzdragon> Which side ended up winning??
[18:59:36] <Aria> only views over time and referals
[19:00:24] <woodchuck> http://i.imgur.com
[19:00:50] <Bronzdragon> Yup
[19:01:10] <Aria> They charge 30 euros for a number?!
[19:01:34] <Aria> Well...
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[19:02:11] <Aria> Phones are expensive with three, meteor has weird hidden fees
[19:02:37] <Aria> Like charging 30 bucks extra because I don't have a Irish phone number..
[19:03:12] <Bronzdragon> Yeah...
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[19:04:30] <Aria> Who else is there?
[19:05:34] <Aria> Holy crap... this person has a Windows tablet
[19:05:39] <Aria> I didn't think anyone bought those =P
[19:05:53] <Aria> (Coming from the person with a Win 8 desktop and soon a Win 8 phone...)
[19:06:12] <Aria> Android phone oddly...
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[19:06:29] <Aria> Oh it's a laptop
[19:06:35] <Aria> thats a sleek laptop. Its super tiny
[19:06:37] <woodchuck> http://i.imgur.com
[19:06:52] <Aria> =(
[19:06:52] <Aria> Sorry
[19:07:09] <Bronzdragon> Aww, poor aria!
[19:09:14] <Aria> Which one was the really wide screen one?
[19:09:21] <Aria> All of these are the same aspect ratio http://www.nokia.com
[19:09:32] <Bronzdragon> ah rightly dinnea kno
[19:09:58] <Aria> Also, 520 looks the best by far. So I guess I'm getting that
[19:12:22] <Aria> It's straight up 150 euros, sim free
[19:12:40] <Aria> That's better than 60 + 25*18 I'd say!
[19:14:48] <Bronzdragon> But don't you need a plan?
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[19:22:22] <Bronzdragon> hai yoshokatana
[19:22:26] <yoshokatana> hola
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[19:25:43] <AriaMibbit> Anything happen after I said "fuck Ireland"?
[19:25:46] <AriaMibbit> I would just order through Amazon, but can't, because no house yet =P
[19:27:39] <Bronzdragon> You did not say fuck ireland
[19:27:45] <Bronzdragon> <Aria> Also, 520 looks the best by far. So I guess I'm getting that
[19:27:45] <Bronzdragon> <Aria> It's straight up 150 euros, sim free
[19:27:45] <Bronzdragon> <Aria> That's better than 60 + 25*18 I'd say!
[19:27:45] <Bronzdragon> <Bronzdragon> But don't you need a plan?
[19:27:56] <Bronzdragon> Also, yoshokatana joined
[19:34:01] <AriaMibbit> Hm..
[19:34:01] <AriaMibbit> I can't remember what I said after that
[19:34:01] <AriaMibbit> (sorry, I was peeing)
[19:34:23] <AriaMibbit> I'll get a plan without a contract, was the idea
[19:34:55] <AriaMibbit> I can't order through Amazon, because hostel
[19:37:26] <apreche> just a little over an hour until I can escape and run nets
[19:38:27] <Bronzdragon> Have you ran nets online?
[19:38:39] <apreche> I have using webcams, but I will not use that piece of shit OCTGN
[19:38:40] <Bronzdragon> There's some sort of generic software you can use, right?
[19:38:52] <Bronzdragon> Ah, right, I was gonna ask how shitty OCTGN is for netrunner.
[19:39:05] <apreche> yeah, OCTGN is like Vassal, but for card games instead of war games
[19:39:11] <apreche> Vassal is also shit
[19:39:34] <Bronzdragon> Unsuable or not worth your time?
[19:40:07] <apreche> I guess literally, it's not unusable, since many use it
[19:40:10] <apreche> but it's too bad for me to tolerate
[19:40:30] <apreche> here is just one major issue I have with it
[19:40:31] <apreche> https://github.com
[19:40:39] <apreche> and that doesn't even begin to go into the awful user interface
[19:43:53] <Bronzdragon> That... is a weird issue.
[19:44:00] <apreche> no it's not weird
[19:44:09] <Bronzdragon> Well, weird as in, why don't they just solve it?
[19:44:09] <apreche> they just decided to do a non-standard installation process
[19:44:17] <AriaMibbit> You solve that by living in a VM and only leaving it for a different VM or a very heavy application/application that require real time interaction like a video game
[19:44:17] <apreche> just do it the way everyone else in the world does it
[19:44:20] <apreche> Program Files/OCTGN
[19:44:29] <Cybylt> what's a Mibbit
[19:44:37] <Bronzdragon> Mibbit is a website that does IRC.
[19:44:40] <Cybylt> ah
[19:44:40] <Bronzdragon> It's also an IRC network
[19:44:44] <AriaMibbit> AJAX IRC client
[19:44:56] <Bronzdragon> It's also the name of their logo, a frog called Mibbit.
[19:45:16] <Cybylt> it does sounds like a frog name
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[19:45:20] <AriaMibbit> Because I'm in a hostel, and they block 6667
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[19:45:24] <Bronzdragon> Goddamnit
[19:45:40] <AriaMibbit> How are you so bad at logical scrolling behavior
[19:45:42] <Cybylt> also, quick MH thing. Black Diablos is scarier now
[19:45:47] <Cybylt> Not because of a new move or anything
[19:45:52] <Cybylt> but because of the new info on it
[19:45:55] <Cybylt> "This black-shelled diablos is mistakenly labeled as a subspecies but is in actuality a female in heat."
[19:45:56] <Bronzdragon> Eh, I used to do this before scrolling
[19:46:06] <Bronzdragon> It's because clicking in certain areas does not switch focus
[19:47:27] <AriaMibbit> <--- has the giantest icons
[19:48:20] <Bronzdragon> Mibbit is one of those websites that don't scale well.
[19:48:32] <Bronzdragon> It works well at large and extra large sizes, but not much else
[19:48:48] <Bronzdragon> Much like the FRCF, except that's medium width.
[19:51:33] <AriaMibbit> <-- is a different person
[19:51:47] <AriaMibbit> her Windows has giant desktop icons, even though she has a high res screen or some sort of hack to shrink UI elements
[19:52:25] <Bronzdragon> Well, sometimes making the icons giant isn't a bad move
[19:52:37] <Bronzdragon> They're easier to hit, so it can definetly speed up productivity
[19:52:53] <AriaMibbit> But there are so many of them...
[19:52:56] <Bronzdragon> Your mouse won't have to move so far, besides, you're not using that desktop anyway.
[19:53:03] <AriaMibbit> Why do people prefer desktop icons over a launcher?
[19:53:12] <apreche> because they can't touch type
[19:53:17] <apreche> so mouse is faster for them
[19:53:20] <AriaMibbit> I don't have desktop icons on anything
[19:53:29] <AriaMibbit> I mean a mouse launcher
[19:53:40] * apreche shurgs
[19:53:42] <AriaMibbit> like the start menu for Windows
[19:53:42] <AriaMibbit> Move your mouse to a corner and the icons come up
[19:54:44] <Bronzdragon> I have icons on my desktop for one reason
[19:54:50] <Bronzdragon> To remember what non-steam games I have installed.
[19:56:26] <AriaMibbit> I suggest pinning a folder to Explorer instead.
[19:57:05] <Bronzdragon> Why?
[19:57:18] <AriaMibbit> Or adding them to your steam client...
[19:57:23] <AriaMibbit> Because desktop space!
[19:57:30] <Bronzdragon> that's harder than it would seem, actually
[19:57:50] <Bronzdragon> Lots of games launch through a different executable than run from.
[19:57:55] <Bronzdragon> (Grammar is hard okay!)
[19:58:09] <Bronzdragon> For example, Battlefield 3 is launched though firefox
[19:58:10] <AriaMibbit> That's fine, pin the launcher
[19:58:12] <apreche> just use Steam launcher
[19:58:13] <Bronzdragon> And you can't not use firefox.
[19:58:24] <AriaMibbit> Just... visit the website
[19:58:24] <apreche> Steam can even launch non-Steam games
[19:58:29] <Bronzdragon> I can't add firefox to steam!
[19:58:33] <AriaMibbit> You don't need a icon to remind you you have BF3
[19:58:36] <Bronzdragon> Nor do any origin games.
[19:58:51] <Bronzdragon> Planetside doesn't work either.
[19:58:56] <Bronzdragon> Just to mention a couple
[19:59:09] <apreche> you CAN add Firefox to Steam
[19:59:16] <Bronzdragon> Well, yes, but not Battlefield
[19:59:36] <apreche> don't play that game, it sucks
[19:59:41] <AriaMibbit> In fact, you accidentally added Firefox to Steam when you wanted to add that puzzle game =P
[19:59:42] <AriaMibbit> Spacechem
[19:59:43] <apreche> problem solved
[19:59:50] <Bronzdragon> Wait, Battlefield 3 sucks?
[19:59:56] <Bronzdragon> Why is that, Sir Apreche?
[19:59:57] <apreche> I don't know
[20:00:04] <apreche> because it can't be launched from Steam
[20:00:06] <apreche> that's enough for me
[20:00:22] <Bronzdragon> Well, the actual reason it can't be launched from steam is because EA is being a dick
[20:00:33] <apreche> even more reason, no EA games for me.
[20:00:34] <AriaMibbit> EA has a competing service
[20:00:43] <apreche> except Simpson's touching game
[20:00:50] <Bronzdragon> But they do use the webbrowser pretty well
[20:00:58] <apreche> and old EA Sports games
[20:00:59] <Bronzdragon> It has a server browser built in which works surprisingly well
[20:01:12] <Bronzdragon> As well as all the statistics you'd want
[20:01:12] <AriaMibbit> Why do you need the icon though?
[20:01:18] <AriaMibbit> Just go to bf3.com and click launch
[20:01:22] <apreche> are there any EA games I play at all...?
[20:01:28] <Bronzdragon> Sim City?
[20:01:39] <apreche> yeah, but I haven't played a Sim City since before the EA days
[20:01:56] <Bronzdragon> Mirror's Edge?
[20:01:56] <apreche> trying to think if there is a game EA actually published that I rank highly
[20:01:59] <Bronzdragon> Spore, maybe?
[20:02:01] <apreche> never played it
[20:02:04] <Bronzdragon> Sims, burnout
[20:02:07] <apreche> Played Spore demo, meh
[20:02:13] <Bronzdragon> C&C
[20:02:22] <apreche> I haven't played C&C since before EA
[20:02:26] <Bronzdragon> M.U.L.E
[20:02:35] <apreche> Was the original M.U.L.E. an EA game?
[20:02:43] <Bronzdragon> One of the first
[20:02:50] <Bronzdragon> Back when they were electronic ARTS
[20:02:51] <apreche> it was!
[20:02:59] <apreche> ok, so far MULE is best EA game
[20:02:59] <Bronzdragon> Rather than Electronic Arses
[20:03:12] <AriaMibbit> ...
[20:03:13] <Bronzdragon> Populous?
[20:03:14] <AriaMibbit> =P
[20:03:27] <apreche> Populous is overrated
[20:03:32] <apreche> not bad, though
[20:03:43] <Bronzdragon> Populous was my first stragety game.
[20:03:56] <Bronzdragon> SSX, also by them
[20:04:01] <AriaMibbit> Ooo
[20:04:04] <apreche> SSX not as good as 1080 for N64
[20:04:15] <Bronzdragon> Dead space is my favorite 3rd person shooter.
[20:04:24] <Bronzdragon> I guess Rock band is the last one you might care about
[20:04:33] <AriaMibbit> I haven't played 1080 for N64, but I played Avalanche on Gamecube
[20:04:35] <apreche> I have Rock Band, but it's not the greatest
[20:04:39] <AriaMibbit> not as fun as SSX Tricky
[20:04:48] <apreche> play 1080
[20:04:55] <apreche> it's as good as the old Tony Hawks
[20:05:02] <apreche> only snow
[20:05:04] <AriaMibbit> 1080 Avalanche, sequel to 1080
[20:05:12] <apreche> didn't know that existed
[20:05:25] <AriaMibbit> It's old. Launch title maybe
[20:05:30] <apreche> nooo
[20:05:36] <apreche> I bought a GameCube on launch, and that wasn't there
[20:05:48] <apreche> and smash bros came out the week after the GCN
[20:05:49] <AriaMibbit> Was Waverace?
[20:05:51] <Bronzdragon> Think of what your life would've been like!
[20:05:53] <AriaMibbit> That's the other one I got at launch
[20:05:57] <apreche> waverace I think was N64 launch
[20:06:09] <AriaMibbit> Sorry, not launch, I got it a few weeks later
[20:06:32] <apreche> yeha, avalanche came out in 2003, GameCube came out in 2001
[20:06:47] <AriaMibbit> ^o)
[20:06:52] <AriaMibbit> I was wrong
[20:07:01] <AriaMibbit> Well, it's still old =P
[20:07:09] <AriaMibbit> When did Sunshine come out?
[20:07:10] <AriaMibbit> I'll check..
[20:07:29] <AriaMibbit> 2002..
[20:07:34] <AriaMibbit> are you sure 1080 was 2003?
[20:07:49] <AriaMibbit> I thought for sure I played both 1080 and Waverace before Smash and Sunshine..
[20:08:17] <AriaMibbit> Luigi's Manshion was launch though, right?
[20:08:30] <apreche> yes
[20:09:39] <apreche> maybe there was a good EA game that was portable for GBA or DS
[20:09:52] <AriaMibbit> I quite enjoy the James Bond and Burnout games
[20:10:01] <apreche> they didn't do Goldeneye, though
[20:10:04] <Bronzdragon> I don't think EA did much handheld publishing
[20:10:12] <AriaMibbit> Wait, they didn't?
[20:10:12] <AriaMibbit> Oh
[20:10:12] <apreche> the ones that come after Goldeneye are bleh
[20:10:28] <AriaMibbit> I really liked Nightfire!
[20:10:44] <apreche> the second best Bond game is Bond for the GameBoy
[20:11:00] <apreche> http://en.wikipedia.org(1998_video_game)
[20:12:31] <apreche> actually, maybe the second best is Perfect Dark, which is the real Goldeneye 2
[20:12:43] <AriaMibbit> Ubuntu
[20:12:44] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
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[20:15:15] <AriaMibbit> Ubuntu
[20:15:15] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[20:18:15] <AriaMibbit> Perfect Dark doesn't have exploding tables
[20:19:20] <AriaMibbit> I like this:
[20:19:21] <AriaMibbit> "Opera is red, IE is blue, but Firefox' orange makes my web dreams come true"
[20:21:22] <Bronzdragon> ...
[20:21:28] <Bronzdragon> "web dreams"?
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[20:22:10] <AriaMibbit> Reference to porn, I'm sure
[20:24:33] <Bronzdragon> I see
[20:25:08] <AriaMibbit> There's a black rock shooter game, says Dave Riley
[20:25:17] <AriaMibbit> that's.. impressive
[20:25:22] <AriaMibbit> I haven't seen the cartoon yet
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[20:32:50] <AriaMibbit> God damn it
[20:33:01] <Bronzdragon> Hmm?
[20:34:33] <AriaMibbit> >_>
[20:34:33] <AriaMibbit> Stupid internet connection
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[20:46:13] <woodchuck> http://i.imgur.com
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[20:47:04] <AriaMibbit> God fucking damn it.
[20:47:05] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[20:52:01] <yoshokatana> hm?
[20:52:19] <Bronzdragon> Aria's connection is incredibly instable
[20:52:28] <Bronzdragon> And he only gets ~30% of the messages
[20:52:36] <Bronzdragon> Worse yet, it doesn't tell him when he's connected or disconnected
[20:52:48] <yoshokatana> hm :-/
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[20:54:22] <yoshokatana> blerg
[20:54:32] <yoshokatana> guess how much money I have in my bank account?
[20:54:42] <apreche> $0?
[20:55:00] <yoshokatana> $ -300
[20:55:04] <apreche> what you do?
[20:55:22] <yoshokatana> auto-paying bills + bank fees
[20:55:32] <Bronzdragon> Good job.
[20:55:35] <apreche> miportant video for you to watch
[20:55:39] <apreche> http://www.nbc.com
[20:55:40] <Bronzdragon> Now, how are you going to fix this?
[20:56:00] <yoshokatana> well, one client is going to pay me about $900 today
[20:56:14] <yoshokatana> and hopefully other client's will pay me before the end of the week
[20:56:31] <yoshokatana> that's what I get when I take a vacation to CA the day after PAX
[20:56:52] <yoshokatana> apreche: hah
[20:58:06] <yoshokatana> apreche: hey, that netrunner meetup is tonight. is it cool if I bring two decks (runner and corp) and tokens/money, rather than the whole big box?
[20:58:19] <apreche> oh, you want to run NETS?
[20:58:29] <apreche> yeah, almost nobody brings the whole box, why would you?
[20:58:35] <apreche> unless you want to customize decks at the meetup
[20:58:35] <yoshokatana> thought so
[20:58:57] <yoshokatana> I figure customizing decks there would just make it so I can't play as much
[20:59:00] <Bronzdragon> You could bring extra cards to custimize your deck based on who you fight.
[20:59:19] <apreche> that is generally frowned upon
[20:59:25] <apreche> and absolutely illegal at tournaments
[20:59:34] <apreche> and you won't even know what people are playing anyway
[20:59:35] <Bronzdragon> Really?
[20:59:48] <yoshokatana> my decks are a little big (~47-49 cards), so I can pare down my deck after I get a feel for it
[20:59:57] <apreche> your runner decks should be as small as posible
[20:59:59] <apreche> corp decks should be 49
[21:00:07] <apreche> with 20 agenda points
[21:00:20] <yoshokatana> my corp deck is exactly 49 / 20 agenda :3
[21:00:27] <apreche> then, it is correct
[21:00:29] <Bronzdragon> What happens when the runner runs out of cards?
[21:00:35] <apreche> nothing
[21:00:35] <apreche> but
[21:00:44] <apreche> if they are forced to discard more cards than they have in their hand, they lose
[21:00:48] <apreche> so if you have no cards in your deck
[21:00:51] <apreche> and you can't draw more
[21:00:57] <apreche> it's not good
[21:01:17] <apreche> but that's no reason to make some huge deck
[21:01:20] <yoshokatana> my runner deck is too big, but I'm less certain of how the deck will feel when playing so I wanted some leeway to take cards out
[21:01:32] <apreche> how much have you actually played?
[21:01:48] <yoshokatana> pretty much zero
[21:01:56] <apreche> so why are you customizing decks for a game you don't know how to play?
[21:01:59] <apreche> play the standard deck
[21:02:01] <apreche> play it a fuckton of times
[21:02:01] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:02:02] <yoshokatana> I played a game against myself, forever-alone-style
[21:02:25] <apreche> then when you have knowledge of how to play, you'll know what to customize.
[21:02:43] <yoshokatana> my corp deck is pretty much standard, and my runner is standard shaper but with some anarch cards added
[21:02:51] <apreche> not too bad
[21:03:04] <apreche> you'll see how people do
[21:03:16] <yoshokatana> mhmm
[21:03:29] <apreche> you'll also get that awesome cheap beer nighttime deli action
[21:03:45] <apreche> where I am headed very soon
[21:04:04] <yoshokatana> does it only go on for an hour (6-7pm)?
[21:04:10] <apreche> no, it goes LATE
[21:04:18] <apreche> people show up and leave at varying times
[21:04:28] <apreche> some people leave midnightish
[21:04:32] <yoshokatana> ok cool
[21:04:47] <apreche> smoe people show up as late as 9
[21:04:52] <apreche> lots of variation
[21:05:09] <apreche> i'm sort of early because it's very close to my work, and I get out
[21:05:09] <apreche> now
[21:05:19] <apreche> Tuesdays are much moer crowded than Friday
[21:05:24] <yoshokatana> ah, cool
[21:05:31] <apreche> At the tournaments EVERYONE shows up
[21:05:33] <yoshokatana> nobody wants to play netrunner on friday night? :p
[21:05:43] <apreche> people usually have more plans Friday than Tuesday
[21:05:53] <yoshokatana> I was thinking of going to that tourny at the 20-sided store, since it's really close to my house
[21:06:11] <yoshokatana> but I don't think I'll be anywhere near tourny-level ready by then
[21:06:19] <apreche> I think I'm going there as well
[21:06:38] <apreche> I've been middling at the Strat tourneys
[21:06:44] <apreche> hoping none of the good players go to the d20 store
[21:07:05] <apreche> anyway, away I go
[21:07:22] <yoshokatana> yeah, I went by there a few weeks ago, and there weren't many gamers there
[21:09:44] <Bronzdragon> So, why is a big deck bad?
[21:10:16] <Bronzdragon> I mean, you're still gonna have the same ratio of programmes, resources and that 3rd card
[21:10:25] <Bronzdragon> (card type)
[21:10:35] <Bronzdragon> Ah, yer left already
[21:21:47] <yoshokatana> what's up?
[21:22:06] <yoshokatana> oh, I think big deck is bad because it'll take longer to get to a card you want
[21:22:16] <yoshokatana> and the propability of drawing that card becomes lower
[21:25:39] <Bronzdragon> The number of high-power cards is limited?
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[21:41:30] <yoshokatana> eh
[21:41:32] <yoshokatana> not really
[21:41:43] <yoshokatana> you can have up to three cards of the same name in a deck
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