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[03:42:07] <Aria> Bitches don't know 'bout my swag
[05:20:15] <woodchuck> I back.
[05:20:34] <woodchuck> Why do linux steal all my battery power?
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[05:54:13] <Aria> because shitty power management
[05:54:14] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[05:54:22] <Aria> 99% because GPU drivers
[06:01:39] <Aria> Why does Windows do the stupid thing where you can't click on things while waiting for progress bars, when this application is stalling, waiting for me to choose a setting
[07:33:42] <woodchuck> that doesn't happen as much as it did in years pass; I don't know the real answer to that;but in the old days you computer would freeze and have to be rebooted.
[07:34:10] <Aria> =/
[07:34:19] <Aria> I got legit Win 8 now
[07:34:23] <Aria> through my brothers school
[07:34:29] <Aria> Im enjoying it somewhat.
[07:34:43] <woodchuck> so I thing it is the same thing; most likely a memory management error(old days not enough memory)
[07:35:10] <woodchuck> ctrl-alt-del is much better then restarting.
[07:35:14] <Aria> But it gives me the error beep
[07:35:26] <woodchuck> it is way better than xp and 95.
[07:35:33] <Aria> as if its intentionally not letting me click on things, because the progress bar requires my full attention
[07:36:17] <woodchuck> I belive that Visual Basic has a command like that.
[07:36:50] <woodchuck> I Unbunto wants to be on all my things; they should work on the batttery managment.
[07:37:35] <woodchuck> my laptop on win 5 hours; unnbunto is 1 hour 30min.
[07:37:37] <Aria> I agree
[07:37:41] <Aria> what type of GPU?
[07:38:09] <Aria> Because if you have intel graphics, usually battery time improves
[07:38:20] <Aria> ATI or Optimus goes down by 90%
[07:38:52] <woodchuck> AMD 55something...I wish I could turn it off. discret graffic are fine 99% of time.
[07:39:47] <Aria> Using closed drivers? I think those work better when it comes to power management
[07:41:07] <woodchuck> Nvidia did anounce a while ago that thry would make linix drivers; hopefully more will follow.
[07:41:43] <woodchuck> i think that when they are a good chuck of games on linux everything will be changed.
[07:42:01] <woodchuck> A call of duty:linux
[07:43:27] <Aria> There have been Nvidia drivers on linux a while
[07:43:29] <Aria> they just suck
[07:43:31] <Aria> Actually
[07:43:51] <Aria> For Quadro, Linux is premire platform, and the Windows versions suck
[07:43:59] <Aria> For GTX, Linux drivers are garbage
[07:44:10] <Aria> Optimus isnt supported at all
[07:44:27] <Aria> Im guessing non-optimus mobile drivers are ok, but have a lot less effort put into them than on Windows
[07:44:48] <Aria> AMD has been known to be better about it. But I can't testify to that
[07:45:12] <Aria> I can say I get better framerates on Steam games under Ubuntu with a set of 560ti's though.
[07:45:13] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[07:48:20] <woodchuck> to be fair Microsolf has lots of people on payrool to make batery managment better.
[07:49:20] <woodchuck> besides steam I don't have a single closed progream running.
[07:49:40] <Aria> Its not Ubuntu's fault really. Their battery management isn't bar. Its AMD. But that doesn't change the fact that when using the Ubuntu product with a AMD GPU, your battery goes to shit.
[07:49:41] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[07:49:41] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[07:49:58] <Aria> bad
[07:50:00] <Aria> *
[07:50:04] <Aria> FUck this keyboard.
[07:50:05] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[07:50:33] <woodchuck> I don't even use micro offire; Libre is just as good.
[07:50:55] <woodchuck> So switch to linux isn't that hard for me.
[07:51:30] <Aria> Im actually switching to Windows =P Well, I still do all my browsing and what not on Linux, just in a VM
[07:51:48] <Aria> There should be a metro-VM program
[07:52:27] <woodchuck> Why are you doing the reverse; don't you looses nerd cred or something.
[07:52:58] <Aria> Need some Windows programs.
[07:53:02] <Aria> Though..
[07:53:13] <Aria> They don't work that well =P
[07:53:23] <woodchuck> Photoshop?
[07:53:31] <Aria> That one works under Wine
[07:53:45] <Aria> Zbrush, UDK,
[07:55:46] <Aria> Zbrush doesn't work because I don't know, wait for the patch.
[07:55:57] <Aria> .Net something something
[07:56:23] <woodchuck> $700 should work now not later; this for school?
[07:56:56] <Aria> It's not, I'd settle with a VM for school =P
[07:58:23] <woodchuck> You in Grafic arts?
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[07:58:46] <Aria> Nope =P Well yes, but not 3D
[07:59:02] <Aria> I know some 3D, but I don't do it professionally
[08:00:00] <woodchuck> I'm IT; i need a BS to get paid the big $.
[08:00:06] <Aria> I also pirated Maya because I could. But Blender seems to be better, even the relatively worse Windows version of it.
[08:01:05] <woodchuck> I havent really notice a differance; I am sure I don'rt use all of blenders capabilites though.
[08:01:10] <Aria> I wonder if this computer is good enough to Linux Blender in a VM with Cycles..
[08:01:24] <Aria> to use*
[08:02:05] <woodchuck> Virtual Box can only use 2 cores, so maybe not.
[08:02:43] <Aria> Is there only Virtual Box for Windows? No VmWare/Pararells?
[08:03:24] <Aria> I like the built in gnome thing. "Box". I think its just branded virtual box, but the UI is nice
[08:03:54] <Aria> Right, I really ought to get some sleep. Good night woodchuck. Keep me updated on your move to Linux.
[08:08:10] <Aria> Good night
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[13:41:45] <Apsup> Heya.
[14:29:42] <Cybylt> Hello
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[14:51:02] <Bronzdragon> Hai guys.
[14:51:37] <Cybylt> Hello
[14:51:51] <Bronzdragon> How's it hanging with Cybylt
[14:52:47] <Cybylt> Pretty good, you?
[14:52:58] <Cybylt> I made it to high rank in MH3U
[14:53:56] <Cybylt> getting some Arzuros Armor S
[14:53:57] <Bronzdragon> I will promote you for a HIGH Rank.
[14:54:08] <Bronzdragon> Does the S stand for Super?
[14:55:01] <Cybylt> I guess?
[14:55:21] <Cybylt> There's the normal suits, then S and U and lasty X and Z
[14:55:27] <Cybylt> U and Z are the recolor sets
[14:55:57] <Bronzdragon> I see..
[14:56:07] <Bronzdragon> so are U and X on S level?
[14:56:11] <Bronzdragon> Or on base level?
[14:56:35] <Cybylt> U and S are the high rank armors
[14:56:39] <Cybylt> X and Z are G rank
[14:56:52] <Cybylt> and usually come with a visual alteration as well
[14:57:17] <Bronzdragon> Okay, sure!
[14:57:20] <Cybylt> like the S armor looks like the normal ones, but certain bits have coloration you choose
[14:57:27] <Cybylt> and the X is a totally new design
[14:57:29] <Bronzdragon> And is the Arzuros a hard armor to get?
[14:57:37] <Cybylt> Not particularly
[14:57:54] <Cybylt> Arzuros has low-ish health and I just need a defense boost going into high rank
[14:59:52] <Bronzdragon> I see...
[14:59:59] <Bronzdragon> I think, at least
[15:00:18] <Cybylt> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net
[15:00:25] <Cybylt> So that would be normal and S armor
[15:00:30] <Cybylt> http://image.wetpaint.com
[15:00:32] <Cybylt> and this is X
[15:01:05] <Bronzdragon> Oh manz, tha tlooks sweet
[15:01:13] <Bronzdragon> That's what I wanna wear.
[15:01:52] <Cybylt> http://image.wetpaint.com
[15:01:55] <Cybylt> and that's Z
[15:02:45] <Bronzdragon> I like X more.
[15:03:20] <Cybylt> Me too
[15:08:08] <Cybylt> I need to gather bugs for bear skin armor
[15:08:11] <Cybylt> makes sense
[15:08:34] <Bronzdragon> Indeed.
[15:08:45] <Bronzdragon> I mean, what kind of bears don't have an army of bugs in their fur?
[15:08:48] <Bronzdragon> Realism, man
[15:09:15] <Cybylt> Well the item description of the bug may explain why
[15:09:27] <Cybylt> like there's one that says it's ground down into adhesive
[15:10:22] <Bronzdragon> Makes sense.
[15:10:29] <Cybylt> another one with sharpened pincers used for the the sowing bits of the armor tailoring process
[15:10:48] <Cybylt> MH fluff is in-depth and cool
[15:12:21] <Bronzdragon> What it needs is a sowing minigame
[15:13:58] <Cybylt> Oh yes
[15:14:09] <Bronzdragon> I didn't expect you to agree...
[15:14:26] <Cybylt> I wish the tavern games weren't only in the pc japan exclusive one
[15:14:57] <Cybylt> they have a popcap shooting gallery, drinking contests, arm wrestling and things I can't remember
[15:46:16] <woodchuck> sounds like fun.
[15:51:16] <Bronzdragon> Hai WC
[15:51:21] <Bronzdragon> ...
[15:51:26] <Bronzdragon> What's unfortunate...
[15:51:30] <Bronzdragon> *That's
[16:03:30] <Bronzdragon> Something's stuck in my teeth
[16:03:36] <Bronzdragon> Worst feeling =(
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[16:43:43] <woodchuck> toothpick.
[16:43:53] <Bronzdragon> Can't reach...
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[17:20:48] <Bronzdragon> 'ello Ruff-chap
[17:20:54] <ruffas> 'owdy
[17:21:51] <ruffas> how's the future?
[17:22:02] <Bronzdragon> There's a lot of...
[17:22:08] <Bronzdragon> I dunno, nothing's changed?
[17:22:20] <ruffas> lame!
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[18:34:07] <Bronzdragon> There is now a dog in our living room
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[19:00:47] <Bronzdragon> Maaan
[19:00:54] <Bronzdragon> I'm bored =(
[19:08:33] <ruffas> do something
[19:08:47] <ruffas> you could help me look for vans!
[19:09:39] <Bronzdragon> Vans, eh?
[19:09:43] <Bronzdragon> What kind?
[19:11:59] <ruffas> cargo vans
[19:12:19] <Bronzdragon> I see.
[19:12:30] <ruffas> in or near florida
[19:13:55] <ruffas> http://www.youtube.com
[19:38:47] <woodchuck> If I install Unbunto with Grub so I can duel boot between it and liniux; will the thired and 4th OS be automaticly configured, or do I have to do it?
[19:39:36] <Bronzdragon> You have to run a grub config in Ubuntu
[19:39:37] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[19:39:43] <Bronzdragon> Or some other Linux distro, that also works
[19:40:12] <Bronzdragon> But pretty much every Linux distro comes with Grub.
[19:40:17] <Bronzdragon> Even when installed on it's own
[19:40:23] <Bronzdragon> So you should be good anyway.
[19:41:10] <woodchuck> I installed freeBSD; how do I get back to windows?
[19:41:13] <Bronzdragon> The command is "sudo update-grub".
[19:41:25] <Bronzdragon> ... are you currently in freeBSD?
[19:41:28] <Bronzdragon> Have you tried rebooting?
[19:42:49] <woodchuck> yes
[19:43:06] <Bronzdragon> To which one?
[19:43:36] <woodchuck> it oly goes to bsd; won't let me choose
[19:44:16] <Bronzdragon> I found this forum post
[19:44:17] <Bronzdragon> http://forums.freebsd.org
[19:44:44] <Bronzdragon> It says you should do "gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot0 ada0"
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[19:48:13] <woodchuck> lets say I were to install windows; then install unbuntoo with the duelboot option.
[19:48:27] <Bronzdragon> Myeeeees?
[19:49:02] <woodchuck> When I install Mint would Grub autmaticly update, or do I have to tell grub I have 3 OSes?
[19:49:32] <Bronzdragon> I think Grub figures it out for you.
[19:49:48] <Bronzdragon> Especially with Mint and ubuntu
[19:49:48] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[19:50:14] <Bronzdragon> Those are really easy, because Mint is basically just Ubuntu, and Ubuntu works closly with Grub
[19:50:15] <Robobuntoo> ...
[19:50:34] <Bronzdragon> whaaaat?
[19:50:45] <woodchuck> What about Feadora or arch?
[19:52:05] <Bronzdragon> Well, any big distro is gonna work
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[19:52:12] <Bronzdragon> Maybe not arch becaus arch does nothing for you
[19:52:16] <Bronzdragon> Right ruffas??
[19:52:23] <ruffas> totally
[19:52:56] <woodchuck> so for the most part grump is automatic then?
[19:53:46] <Bronzdragon> Yes.
[19:53:52] <Bronzdragon> FreeBSD is... unique
[19:54:04] <Bronzdragon> They assume that you don't have any reason to intall FreeBSD other than to use it, exclusivly
[19:54:15] <Bronzdragon> Also, they hate (HATE) everything that's not 100% open source
[19:54:25] <Bronzdragon> But they make really good stuff.
[19:54:33] <Bronzdragon> the GNU people are pretty crazy...
[19:54:35] <woodchuck> What server distro should I use; me thinks i nuke freeBSD?
[19:55:56] <Bronzdragon> Depends on what you gonna serve, and how you wanna maintain it
[19:56:05] <Bronzdragon> FreeBSD is fine for a server, I think...
[19:57:15] <woodchuck> Learning purposes: lern o run web hosting, game servers hosting; things like that.
[19:57:38] <Bronzdragon> I'd recommend a flavor of Linux over BSD.
[19:57:50] <Bronzdragon> Support will be easier.
[19:57:51] <woodchuck> good news the command you gave me abve worked.
[19:57:57] <Bronzdragon> Huzza!
[19:58:35] <woodchuck> so what is the differance between BSD and linux; aren't they all unix like?
[19:59:16] <Bronzdragon> Yes, they're both Unix-likes
[19:59:37] <Bronzdragon> They have a different kernel
[19:59:39] <Bronzdragon> So...
[19:59:52] <Bronzdragon> Alright, imagine cars
[20:00:00] <Bronzdragon> now, imagine that engines were standardized
[20:00:13] <Bronzdragon> you might get a van with a BMW engine, right
[20:00:19] <Bronzdragon> Or it could be a VW engine
[20:00:24] <Bronzdragon> But they run basically the same, they move stuff
[20:00:38] <Bronzdragon> Or you could have a sports car with a BMW engine
[20:00:45] <Bronzdragon> Which runs different, because of the stuff around it
[20:00:54] <Bronzdragon> But when you ask me, what's the difference between the two engines...
[20:01:02] <Bronzdragon> Well, they both take gas and make the car move
[20:01:12] <Bronzdragon> One might take a bit more, but eh, who cares *shrug*
[20:01:24] <Bronzdragon> What you care about is how many replacement parts there are for your engine!
[20:01:41] <woodchuck> what server distro would you use?
[20:01:57] <Bronzdragon> Doesn't matter much.
[20:02:09] <Bronzdragon> People like Fedora, so... that?
[20:02:19] <Bronzdragon> That also comes with Gnome3, which is nice.
[20:08:22] <woodchuck> unbuntu;red hat;suse
[20:08:40] <Bronzdragon> Those are distros
[20:09:01] <woodchuck> they are the top 4 server distros.
[20:09:14] <Bronzdragon> Red hat is meant for comercial use
[20:09:24] <Bronzdragon> It's not... for hobbyist servers
[20:09:34] <Bronzdragon> Licensing for that is weird
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[20:10:52] <woodchuck> I stick to unbutu server then.
[20:11:21] <Bronzdragon> Not a bad choice
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[20:25:37] <Bronzdragon> Aria! =D
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