#geeknights | Logs for 2013-03-17

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[00:00:06] <aria> is that the guy who played the Genie in Aladdin?
[00:04:34] <aria> What is the first line in a job application?
[00:07:02] <nine> Youtube is shitting itself anally on a single fucking video.
[00:07:03] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[00:07:22] <nine> It's only 6 minutes long and it can't even deal with sending more than 20 seconds at a time.
[00:07:29] <nine> Less if I try to full screen it.
[00:09:06] <Tiwi> oO
[00:09:30] <aria> Tiwi, how I start application?
[00:09:38] <aria> In English.
[00:10:25] <Tiwi> i really
[00:10:26] <Tiwi> don't...
[00:10:42] <Bronzdragon> I think you shouldn't start an application that way
[00:10:47] <Bronzdragon> Shows a real lack of confidence
[00:11:08] <Bronzdragon> "I... really am not a good fit.."
[00:11:22] <Bronzdragon> At least you're confidnet in your incompitence taht way
[00:12:22] <Cybylt> Signing your name is a good start
[00:13:18] <Cybylt> especially if it's legible
[00:13:42] <Bronzdragon> Text document, so, that's fine.
[00:15:00] <Cybylt> Then as long as the name is easy to pronounce you are clear on that front. Other than that I'm not sure, most jobs have their own application form ready to fill out.
[00:15:32] <Bronzdragon> So just sent a document "Aria"?
[00:16:00] <Cybylt> And whatever information they ask for, yes
[00:16:48] <Cybylt> typically that would include an address, phone number, email address, identification number, references or previous places of employment
[00:16:49] <Apsup> Bronzdragon: You know, many irc clients highligh the line where users nick is mentioned.
[00:17:23] <Bronzdragon> ... *jedi hand motion* I said no things taht would make you displeased.
[00:17:46] <aria> http://www.gizmag.com
[00:17:49] <aria> That's silly
[00:18:37] <Cybylt> I think people would get it just to have something that floats like that
[00:22:07] <Tiwi> oh
[00:22:19] <Tiwi> aria is writing a job application?
[00:22:25] <Bronzdragon> Yes.
[00:23:46] <Tiwi> well
[00:24:12] <Tiwi> I would start by saying what position you're applying for
[00:24:28] <Bronzdragon> "I am applying for..." Like that?
[00:24:33] <Tiwi> yepp
[00:24:35] <Bronzdragon> Because taht starts with I, and I heard that's rude.
[00:24:39] <Tiwi> then why you're applying for it
[00:24:59] <Cybylt> That would help too
[00:25:03] <Tiwi> no, you're supposed to be competent
[00:25:04] <aria> http://www.finn.no
[00:25:06] <Tiwi> err
[00:25:08] <Tiwi> confident
[00:25:44] <aria> Assuming they want the application in English.
[00:41:29] <aria> GauntletWizard: Gmail spam filter was giving me false postives
[00:42:13] <aria> Kinda bad ones. Skype forum notifier, reply to a job application (Norway's largest craiglist-like website), and a receipt for a purchace at OutletPC
[00:42:45] <aria> Also Norwegian Netflix like service was legit sending me spam, but they're a large company with a lot of subscriptions.
[00:56:47] <Bronzdragon> Our opening paragrahp is thus; I’m writing to you to apply for your position as “Web Editor”, as found on Finn.no
[00:57:07] <Bronzdragon> Do you guys think this is a good opening paragraph? keep in mind we're applying via a form on a job finding website
[00:57:33] <Bronzdragon> Both thigns mentioned in the first sentence/paragraph would be superfloues.
[00:58:25] <aria> It's aslo a job where the main thing you do is exclude unnecceary things people don't realize are unneceary, because they can't computer
[00:58:45] <Bronzdragon> ... I disagree, I interpret it slightly differently
[01:00:53] <Tiwi> sure
[01:02:16] <Tiwi> i would go with "This letter is a response to..."
[01:02:29] <Tiwi> and then where you found it
[01:02:48] <Tiwi> but yeah
[01:02:58] <Tiwi> I think it's a good introduction either way
[01:04:01] <Tiwi> remember to add "why you want the job and why you're qualified"
[01:04:43] <Bronzdragon> That's the 3rd and 2nd paragraph respectivly
[01:05:23] <Tiwi> good
[01:05:28] <Tiwi> then add your CV
[01:05:40] <Tiwi> and talk about your strong sides
[01:06:01] <Tiwi> I have such and such experience, and I think I would be perfect for such a position"
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[01:51:39] <aria> Bronz said "Wanting to sex female butts would not float well in a feminist agenda". Is he correct?
[01:52:01] <Cybylt> Depends on the feminist in question.
[01:52:30] <Bronzdragon> The one you think of when I say feminist.
[01:52:44] <Cybylt> Retarded "third wave" feminism believes that all sex between men and women is rape because "societal pressure"
[01:53:01] <Cybylt> So they would not be too keen on the idea
[01:53:01] <Bronzdragon> To be specific, I meant "Wanting to sex female butts does not make you a feminist".
[01:53:17] <aria> But I'm complimenting them!
[01:53:19] <Bronzdragon> That got lost in the context...
[01:53:26] <Cybylt> Well no, that just makes you someone who wants to sex female butts
[01:53:35] <Bronzdragon> Indeeder
[01:53:41] <aria> FEMmale!
[01:54:35] <Cybylt> FEMmale?
[01:54:45] <Bronzdragon> Girly guys
[01:55:01] <aria> Fem(inist)male (as in, female)
[01:55:02] <Cybylt> twinks and metros?
[01:55:06] <Cybylt> Oh
[01:55:17] <Bronzdragon> I don't know what Aria's thining sometimes...
[01:55:27] <Cybylt> those two don't have to intersect then
[01:56:22] <Bronzdragon> *thinking
[02:01:02] <nine> Bronzdragon: AND YOU FUCK HIM FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
[02:01:03] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[02:01:13] <Cybylt> Well... I think it would possible to find a feminist into butt stuff who wouldn't be offended at the mention of it, if that's what you're asking. Though some may want to return the favor...
[02:01:17] <nine> Robocuntoo.
[02:01:18] <Robobuntoo> ...
[02:01:22] <Cybylt> ahahaha
[02:02:15] <aria> I'm marely saying it's a compliment to want to have sex with someone.
[02:02:21] <aria> e*
[02:02:40] <nine> In your worldview it is.
[02:02:50] <nine> Feminazis are batshit insane though.
[02:02:50] <Robobuntoo> ...
[02:03:04] <nine> And insane people have a skewed view of the world.
[02:03:30] <Cybylt> Sort of, though there are gentler ways to say it. Saying they're pretty or that you find them attractive, for example
[02:03:32] <aria> Tiwi can attest to that.
[02:03:54] <Tiwi> what can i attest to?
[02:03:54] <aria> He is currently in hiding form a number of insane ex-lovers. He lives in a bunker.
[02:03:57] <Tiwi> I'm a feminist
[02:04:15] <Bronzdragon> "My cock would love to rest between your buttcheeks"
[02:04:19] <Tiwi> also yeah...
[02:04:22] <Tiwi> <.<
[02:04:25] <Tiwi> women be crazy
[02:04:35] <nine> Men as well.
[02:04:36] <Bronzdragon> The women YOU talk to are crazy
[02:04:43] <Tiwi> nuhu
[02:04:43] <Bronzdragon> Or rather, women that will talk to YOU are crazy
[02:04:48] <Tiwi> they're just sexually frustrated
[02:04:49] <Cybylt> Bronz, that one has worked for me
[02:04:56] <Bronzdragon> No way
[02:05:09] <Cybylt> she was already in the bed... but still
[02:05:13] <Tiwi> lol
[02:05:15] <Tiwi> hahaha
[02:05:36] <Bronzdragon> I'm imagening... less than desirable things
[02:05:49] <Bronzdragon> The crackle of lightning outside...
[02:05:50] <nine> Because you're picturing a woman?
[02:05:52] <nine> Or otherwise?
[02:05:54] <Cybylt> hahaha
[02:05:59] <Bronzdragon> A scared young Cybylt at his mom's door
[02:06:07] <Bronzdragon> "Mom, can I sleep in your bed?"...
[02:06:18] <Cybylt> that's terrifying
[02:06:19] <nine> WHY THE FUCK DOES YOUR MIND JUMP TO FUCKING INCESTUOUS PEDOPHILIA?!
[02:06:20] <Robobuntoo> ...
[02:06:28] <aria> Korea.
[02:06:28] <Bronzdragon> Who's doesn't?
[02:06:42] <nine> I.
[02:06:46] <nine> Cybylt probably.
[02:06:58] <nine> Every male member on the forums besides Tiwi, aria and you.
[02:07:03] <Cybylt> Yeah
[02:07:07] <nine> Every female member as well.
[02:07:07] <Bronzdragon> Tiwi's not on the forums.
[02:07:12] <Bronzdragon> SO HA
[02:07:13] <aria> It's not pedophilia if the young one suggest it!
[02:07:24] <nine> So? His mind still jump to that.
[02:07:25] <Tiwi> wait
[02:07:28] <Tiwi> what did I agree to?
[02:07:32] <nine> aria: IT STILL IS.
[02:07:35] <nine> Probably sex.
[02:07:46] <Bronzdragon> Tiwi, you have to sex your mom now
[02:07:50] <Bronzdragon> I think.
[02:07:52] <Tiwi> WHAAAT!?
[02:07:52] <Tiwi> no
[02:07:54] <Tiwi> NO
[02:07:57] <Bronzdragon> Yup.
[02:08:02] <Tiwi> not ouedipus
[02:08:11] <Tiwi> I don't even like the greek
[02:08:11] <Bronzdragon> 'fraid so.
[02:08:21] <Cybylt> And all I was saying was that some ladies take spooning boner as a compliment
[02:08:34] <nine> Wow, if even Tiwi gets freaked the fuck out you know you've come to terrible shores.
[02:08:35] <Tiwi> I could see that
[02:08:39] <Tiwi> Cybylt
[02:08:49] <Tiwi> but also it's rapey
[02:08:54] <Tiwi> wait
[02:08:58] <nine> On whose part?
[02:08:59] <Bronzdragon> ... you like Cybylt's compliment of boner spooning you, Tiwi?
[02:09:01] <Tiwi> how did she end up in bed with you?
[02:09:08] <Tiwi> I mean
[02:09:13] <Bronzdragon> Oh man, are you saying Cybylt cannot get ladies in bed?
[02:09:19] <Tiwi> if she woke up with a spooning boner, and you didn't have sex
[02:09:20] <Bronzdragon> Have you seen the guy!
[02:09:32] <Tiwi> that'd be weird.
[02:09:33] <Bronzdragon> Wait, SHE woke up with a spooning boner?
[02:09:39] <Bronzdragon> Man, this chat is all SORTS of messed up.
[02:09:46] <Tiwi> up her bum
[02:09:46] <Tiwi> i meant
[02:09:53] <Bronzdragon> Oh, that's okay then.
[02:09:54] <nine> Aaaaand I think Bronzdragon will have enough material for his out-of-context forum post.
[02:10:01] <Bronzdragon> I can't post myself!
[02:10:07] <Bronzdragon> Besides, I already made one today
[02:10:10] <Cybylt> not up her bum, more like against it
[02:10:13] <nine> You're the one posting all those to begin with!
[02:10:34] <Tiwi> yeaaaah Cybylt
[02:10:37] <nine> Straddling the fine line of butt.
[02:10:39] <Tiwi> *nods*
[02:10:49] <Tiwi> wait
[02:10:56] <Cybylt> Yeah, I think
[02:10:56] <Tiwi> fine line?
[02:11:15] <Tiwi> <.<
[02:11:15] <Tiwi> >.>
[02:11:52] <Bronzdragon> emphasis on fine
[02:11:55] <Bronzdragon> Because, fine butt
[02:13:49] <aria> Ok, so Tiwi, you're a feminist. If someone says they want to sex you up, do you take that as a compliment?
[02:13:54] <Tiwi> i still don't get how you ended up on ass talk
[02:14:05] <Tiwi> oh
[02:14:21] <Tiwi> if a lady said that I would be freaked out.
[02:14:26] <Tiwi> but then sure
[02:14:34] <aria> There! I was right.
[02:14:34] <Bronzdragon> ... not so with a guy?
[02:14:47] <aria> I will now go laugh at Bronz.
[02:14:50] <Tiwi> only crazy people
[02:14:52] <Tiwi> say that
[02:14:54] <Cybylt> I think context and tone may be important as well
[02:14:57] <Tiwi> or really drunk people
[02:15:10] <Tiwi> ey, if she was a 8-10
[02:15:16] <Tiwi> I would fucking not care
[02:15:28] <Tiwi> but anything below jawdropping is "<.<"
[02:15:38] <Cybylt> aria said someone, not lady
[02:15:56] <Cybylt> just saying, no context
[02:16:05] <Tiwi> doesn't matter
[02:16:09] <Tiwi> would still be freaked out
[02:16:17] <Cybylt> especially did not specify it as an attractive lady
[02:16:24] <Tiwi> exactly
[02:16:29] <Bronzdragon> What if a dude said it?
[02:16:35] <Bronzdragon> (perhaps he was a bit drunk?)
[02:16:36] <Tiwi> still freaked out
[02:16:42] <Tiwi> seriously guysa
[02:16:44] <Cybylt> What if a big muscly guy said he wanted to sex you in a dimly lit alley?
[02:16:55] <Tiwi> hahaha
[02:16:57] <Cybylt> I don't think he's taking no as an answer
[02:16:59] <Tiwi> do i have a choice+
[02:17:02] <Tiwi> ?*
[02:17:04] <aria> http://i0.kym-cdn.com
[02:17:41] <Tiwi> oh god
[02:17:44] <aria> The question was simply if it'll be taken as a compliment or not. You may be freaked out.
[02:17:46] <Tiwi> not nyan nyan
[02:17:56] <Tiwi> no
[02:18:00] <Tiwi> i would not
[02:18:05] <Cybylt> I think that comic really missed the opportunity on a pun
[02:18:15] <aria> I'm nyan for?
[02:18:18] <Tiwi> which is?
[02:18:23] <Tiwi> lol
[02:19:11] <Tiwi> http://i.imgur.com
[02:20:10] <Cybylt> http://www.youtube.com
[02:20:13] <Cybylt> reminded me of that
[02:20:52] <aria> http://static.fjcdn.com
[02:23:24] <Tiwi> that's a really bad video Cybylt
[02:23:29] <Tiwi> why would you watch that?
[02:24:01] <aria> 2gether =P
[02:24:20] <aria> So pop music is litterally all auto tune?
[02:24:26] <Tiwi> no?
[02:24:30] <aria> I thought people were just taking the shit based on 30th hand parodies
[02:24:31] <Tiwi> have you heard daughter?
[02:24:48] <Cybylt> They were making fun of it, and that those two had a new album
[02:26:02] <Tiwi> yeah... but usually satire on bad things are by nessecity bad
[02:26:13] <aria> I didn't realize this was a parody
[02:26:20] <aria> it was not..
[02:26:30] <aria> particulary funny
[02:28:20] <Cybylt> not really, no
[02:28:25] <Tiwi> http://i.imgur.com
[02:28:58] <Apsup> I laughed at that.
[02:29:01] <Bronzdragon> =P
[02:29:19] <Apsup> Although I like the new pope. Those ears are prime material for caricatyres.
[02:29:33] <Tiwi> http://i.imgur.com
[02:29:41] <Bronzdragon> >caricatyres
[02:29:42] <Tiwi> I like the new pope too
[02:29:54] <Tiwi> he lives over europes biggest gay spa
[02:30:08] <Tiwi> sry, spa and turkish bath
[02:30:35] <Cybylt> caricature
[02:37:01] <nine> Tiwi> if a lady said that I would be freaked out.
[02:37:10] <nine> If a lady said she wanted to have sex with you you'd freak out?
[02:37:11] <nine> Oh boy.
[02:37:27] <Bronzdragon> He doesn't have a lot of self-confidence...
[02:37:39] <Tiwi> <.<
[02:37:41] <Tiwi> since when?
[02:38:20] <Bronzdragon> "I hate myself" -- Tiwi, 5 minutes ago
[02:39:00] <Tiwi> oO
[02:40:40] <nine> What does self-confidence have to do with someone saying they'd want to fuck you?
[02:40:47] <nine> They're the ones being confident.
[02:40:56] <nine> Also, fuck the pope.
[02:41:01] <nine> ... after seeing that picture.
[02:41:06] <nine> Cunt brings nothing but bad things!
[02:41:21] <nine> And probably won't be changing the church's ideas on condoms!
[02:55:33] <Tiwi> http://imgur.com
[02:55:34] <Tiwi> enjoy
[03:05:37] <Cybylt> nine, I don't think we'll see any change from the church for a good twenty years at best
[03:05:39] <Bronzdragon> D=
[03:06:32] <Cybylt> the pope is always some 80+ year old guy who was bashed in the head with the teachings of the church since childhood, that kind of system doesn't offer much progression
[03:07:08] <Tiwi> except child abuse
[03:07:20] <Tiwi> but then again, that doesn't change much over centuries
[03:07:29] <Cybylt> they make pioneering leaps in that all the time
[03:07:39] <Apsup> Kinda hard to get to be a pope if you aren't full of teaching of the churc.
[03:08:56] <aria> Tiwi
[03:09:00] <aria> how you find this?
[03:09:44] <Tiwi> find those pictures?
[03:09:50] <Tiwi> reddit/imgur?
[03:11:00] <Tiwi> wtf is bagged milk+
[03:11:02] <Tiwi> ?
[03:11:07] <Tiwi> http://i.imgur.com
[03:11:52] <Bronzdragon> ...
[03:12:18] <Bronzdragon> This is how you bagged milk
[03:12:19] <aria> What the fuclk!?
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[03:13:09] <aria> athenian200: Bagged milk!?
[03:13:32] <Bronzdragon> hai athenian200!
[03:13:32] <Cybylt> How does it not spill?
[03:13:57] <Cybylt> I can understand it in individual juice pouch sizes, but that looks like a liter or more
[03:14:17] <Bronzdragon> http://brownhillsbob.files.wordpress.com
[03:14:19] <Bronzdragon> That's how.
[03:14:50] <Cybylt> that's a shitty method then
[03:14:58] <Cybylt> how do you properly close the bag?
[03:15:09] <Bronzdragon> You put the cup in the fridge
[03:15:14] <Bronzdragon> like an open carton
[03:15:23] <Cybylt> why would you leave a carton open?
[03:15:42] <Cybylt> also, you have to use both hands to stop the bag from falling out
[03:15:45] <Bronzdragon> You can't close carton
[03:15:54] <Cybylt> you can most of the way at least
[03:16:03] <Cybylt> it's not just sitting there with the lip open
[03:16:12] <nine> Cybylt: Yup. Fucking old popes.
[03:16:19] <Cybylt> this bag is horribly innefficient
[03:16:44] <Cybylt> https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
[03:17:25] <Cybylt> best method, requires no additional products and is resealable
[03:20:14] <Bronzdragon> It's done for cheapness
[03:20:19] <Bronzdragon> (the plastic bag, I mean)
[03:21:10] <Cybylt> but the jug is still cheap and recyclable
[03:22:11] <Bronzdragon> Collecting jugs costs money
[03:22:22] <aria> That looks like you're buying posion or gasoline or something =P
[03:22:24] <Tiwi> http://i.imgur.com
[03:22:32] <aria> Our milk comes in milk cartons like it should
[03:22:42] <aria> If you order online, you can get the glass jar variant
[03:22:48] <Tiwi> :O
[03:22:49] <Tiwi> what?
[03:22:52] <Tiwi> tine has that?
[03:22:55] <Tiwi> or Q?
[03:23:07] <aria> Tine has that. Q already has decent cartons
[03:23:20] <aria> The netherlands has sugger in milk cartons
[03:23:22] <Cybylt> only method to totally seal the bag is to do that thing where you cut off the top of a liter soda bottle. It costs as much money as collecting bags, I think, as long as the city does that whole recycle bin deal
[03:23:44] <aria> Our cartons have a screw-y lid
[03:23:50] <Cybylt> that works
[03:24:07] <Cybylt> most of ours have the pull/pinch top
[03:25:01] <Cybylt> Some juices do the screw-top cartons
[03:27:22] <nine> < aria> The netherlands has sugger in milk cartons
[03:27:23] <nine> What?
[03:27:29] <Bronzdragon> Tru fax
[03:27:51] <Cybylt> what's sugger?
[03:27:52] <aria> I once accidentally poured milk over my pancakce
[03:28:00] <aria> sugar
[03:28:03] <Cybylt> oh
[03:28:15] <aria> because I mistook the milk carton for sugar.
[03:28:26] <Cybylt> what
[03:28:33] <Cybylt> sugar comes in cartons?
[03:28:43] <aria> In the Netherlands is does
[03:28:48] <nine> Oh, this is just a case of aria being retarded and there not actually being sugar in milk.
[03:28:49] <aria> Because they are crazy.
[03:28:51] <Tiwi> because CRAZY
[03:28:56] <nine> And we don't.
[03:28:59] <Tiwi> http://viewrz.com
[03:29:01] <Tiwi> oh god
[03:29:04] <Tiwi> this is amazing
[03:29:10] <Tiwi> beiber's voice
[03:29:12] <Tiwi> it's so gay
[03:29:18] <Tiwi> no offence
[03:29:34] <Cybylt> I think I've only ever seen cotton candy sugar coming in cartons
[03:29:36] <Tiwi> but we all know the gays don't dress like retards
[03:30:32] <Cybylt> other than that it's typically in a paper bag thing, and then we put it in a ceramic or plastic container
[03:31:12] <nine> ^
[03:31:18] <Bronzdragon> Well, to be fair, it /is/ gourmet sugar
[03:31:22] <Bronzdragon> for cooks
[03:31:23] <nine> I put my sugar in a glass container.
[03:31:35] <nine> Then move it to a metal one for putting next to tea.
[03:31:50] <Cybylt> the mason jar-like things?
[03:31:53] <aria> That was funny.
[03:31:56] <aria> Thank you Tiwi
[03:31:56] <Cybylt> with the seal tab
[03:32:19] <Tiwi> I'm so not into beiber
[03:32:23] <Tiwi> I don't get it
[03:32:32] <Tiwi> both ways even, the hate, or the love
[03:33:05] <Cybylt> http://lrtventuresllc.com
[03:33:07] <Cybylt> or these
[03:33:58] <nine> Not a mason jar. Just a tall glass jar with a metal lid.
[03:34:04] <nine> And plastic seals.
[03:36:13] <Tiwi> ey Cybylt
[03:36:18] <Tiwi> I know 3 people who do that
[03:36:23] <Tiwi> they're all swedish
[03:36:25] <Tiwi> :P
[03:36:47] <Tiwi> is there something you're not telling us?
[03:36:51] <Tiwi> o.^
[03:37:10] <Cybylt> The plastic/glass/ceramic container thingis pretty common over here too?
[03:37:46] <aria> http://www.caddyhome.be
[03:38:44] <Apsup> Hymm. I had confiqured my buttons wrong. Which must have been horrible experience for Snake. Man just wanted to throw people around, but ended up slitting their throats.
[03:39:16] <Bronzdragon> D=
[03:40:04] <Cybylt> I'm Californian, not Swedish. You held O too long?
[03:40:38] <Apsup> Too hard, PS2 has pressure sentitive buttons. Few games used them though, mostly rasing games and Metal Gears come to mind.
[03:40:50] <Cybylt> That animation in MGS3 is a bit freaky, he just flicks the knife in their jugular
[03:40:51] <Bronzdragon> >rasing
[03:41:05] <Cybylt> racing
[03:41:09] <Apsup> racing. S C same sound, depending on situation.
[03:42:17] <Cybylt> Ohhh. Wait, how did they deal with that in the remakes then?
[03:42:28] <Cybylt> I only really played Peace Walker in the collection
[03:42:38] <Cybylt> I should go back to 2 and 3 at some time
[03:47:45] <Tiwi> I was implying you were of pure blood Cybylt
[03:47:52] <Tiwi> in the master race
[03:50:00] <Cybylt> I'd say I'm a mutt
[03:51:33] <Apsup> Cybylt: I don't know. I assume they change it somehow in the HD collection, but I don't yet have it so I can't tell.
[03:52:03] <Tiwi> relevant:http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/phantom-pain-arg-video-joakim-sends-out-a-message-1429000/
[03:52:08] <Tiwi> http://www.giantbomb.com *
[03:53:56] <Apsup> Saw a thing about that already earlier.
[03:53:58] <Cybylt> So have they gone ahead and admitted it's MGS5?
[03:54:06] <Apsup> Nope.
[03:54:12] <Bronzdragon> ..
[03:54:23] <Apsup> There will probably be something in GDC.
[03:54:24] <Bronzdragon> They were really coy and were like =O Fox engine?!
[03:54:31] <Bronzdragon> (It runs on fox engine)
[03:54:54] <Apsup> Well, sharing engines is nothing new.
[03:55:29] <Tiwi> question is
[03:55:33] <Tiwi> if grounds zero
[03:55:39] <Cybylt> They're going all out on these teasers
[03:55:41] <Tiwi> = phantom pain
[03:56:29] <Bronzdragon> You should've seen that youtube
[03:56:39] <Cybylt> Well from what they show in the link it makes sense
[03:56:43] <Apsup> It probably isn't.
[03:56:50] <Cybylt> I guess Kojima got bored with the up front trailers
[03:57:14] <Apsup> Well args for videogames is nothing new, this is basically a variation of that.
[03:57:44] <Tiwi> you know what
[03:57:51] <Tiwi> It'd be amazing if it wasn't
[03:57:53] <Tiwi> MGS
[03:57:59] <Tiwi> please kojima
[03:58:27] <aria> Jet Set Radio 4 confirmed
[03:58:32] <Tiwi> you're the kind of guy that could fucking do that, make it smiliar enough for people to grind their erections. But then totally fuck them over.
[03:58:54] <Cybylt> Would be cool but the trailer had soldeirs and a guy with a mullet, so unless he's trolling his ass off it's MGS
[03:59:38] <Tiwi> who knows...
[03:59:47] <Tiwi> a lot can change before release
[03:59:54] <Tiwi> maybe it was "placeholder"
[04:00:11] <Apsup> Maybe all this theory about it being an Kojima game ends up bing false and it was just a demo for a game made by random studio that just got engine and some character models from Konami (character models explain the similarities between Ground Zeroes trailer and Phantom Pain trailer)
[04:02:18] <Tiwi> let's make that into a conspiracy theory
[04:02:25] <Tiwi> TO THE INTERNETZ
[04:04:27] <Apsup> It's funny how the "There is no conspiracy, everything is just as you are being told" is the less believable option here. Or maybe I've been just dragged too deeply in all this to be able to see the truth from crackpot theories.
[04:05:22] <Tiwi> actually
[04:05:26] <Tiwi> we're all on drugs
[04:05:33] <Tiwi> we're PART OF THE PHANTOM PAIN!
[04:05:50] <Tiwi> OH GOD GUYS I GOT IT, THEY'RE MAKING THE NEXT DEADLY PREMINITION!
[04:06:34] <Cybylt> Nah, those guys are making Drakengard 3
[04:06:41] <Apsup> Does Deadly Preminiton and MGS happen in the same universe?
[04:06:53] <Apsup> Now it does.
[04:07:28] <Bronzdragon> ...
[04:07:30] <Bronzdragon> o_O
[04:07:42] <Bronzdragon> Actually... not that much of a strech.
[04:08:49] <Tiwi> I disagree Bronzdragon
[04:08:53] <Tiwi> it's all the strech
[04:09:03] <Tiwi> but it's so crazy, it might just work...
[04:09:58] <Bronzdragon> Good night
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[04:11:05] <nine> Time to watch animu about little girls!
[04:11:07] <Tiwi> oh well
[04:11:08] <nine> WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~
[04:11:16] <Tiwi> lolicon
[04:11:22] <Tiwi> *shakes fist*
[04:11:24] <nine> Hey, she's god.
[04:11:28] <nine> I don't fap to gods.
[04:11:47] <nine> Show was also made before the birth of "moe".
[04:13:04] <Tiwi> but it's still moe
[04:13:09] <nine> No it's not.
[04:13:11] <Tiwi> <.<
[04:13:19] <Tiwi> hauri is not moe?
[04:13:20] <Tiwi> my ass
[04:13:28] <nine> I'm not talking about Haruhi.
[04:13:36] <Tiwi> which god then?
[04:13:37] <nine> She's hardly little.
[04:13:48] <nine> I ain't saying.
[04:13:55] <Tiwi> well then you'll be a lolicon
[04:13:58] <Tiwi> by def
[04:14:11] <Tiwi> welll
[04:14:13] <nine> I'm not interested in boning a cartoon character.
[04:14:25] <Tiwi> i'm not implying that
[04:14:34] <Tiwi> in my head lolicon doesn't actaully have to do anything
[04:14:47] <aria> You're watching that moe show about the wood carving girl
[04:14:47] <Tiwi> but just be obsessed with dumb showes about little girls
[04:14:56] <aria> That came out at the peak of the moe carp
[04:15:14] <aria> Kannagi
[04:15:14] <Tiwi> also nothing wrong with liking moe, except that you like moe.
[04:16:00] <aria> Also "She is not really a little girl, she's a 500 year old vampire!" is a terrible excuse for fapping to little girls
[04:16:25] <Tiwi> dpesm
[04:16:34] <Tiwi> doesn't matter, it's upto him
[04:16:47] <Tiwi> I did enjoy lucky star
[04:17:10] <aria> Hotel voynich tried to do that
[04:17:15] <Tiwi> but in general moe makes me sad to the ballz. it's why we can't have any good show's anymore
[04:17:20] <aria> Also from WTF of your day thread: This is the offender http://i.imgur.com
[04:17:53] <Tiwi> <.<
[04:18:14] <aria> That does not become better with context
[04:18:51] <aria> In fact, it becomes quite a bit worse
[04:23:14] <Tiwi> -.-
[04:23:16] <Tiwi> well
[04:23:17] <Tiwi> nightz
[04:23:20] <aria> Nooo
[04:23:26] <aria> But I'll be left alone with the pedos!
[04:23:48] <Apsup> You should go to sleep too aria.
[04:23:52] <aria> =P
[04:23:55] <aria> Like I can sleep
[04:24:09] <aria> I guess I can watch the Dark Souls guy
[04:24:42] <aria> Man..
[04:24:46] <aria> American houses are so big
[04:24:48] <aria> I wanna move now
[04:24:56] <aria> Houses here are fucking expensive
[04:26:16] <aria> You guys got cheap houses, Amazon prime, cheap food
[04:26:56] <aria> If only you had more reliable internet and public transport, I'd probably actually move
[04:27:27] <aria> Also a more competent government maybe.
[04:28:34] <Tiwi> also not getting raped/shot
[04:28:43] <Tiwi> and social security
[04:28:47] <Tiwi> and healthcare
[04:28:49] <Tiwi> ya know
[04:28:53] <aria> ...well yes
[04:28:55] <aria> If America was good
[04:28:56] <Tiwi> the things that really matter
[04:28:58] <aria> Id go there
[04:29:00] <Apsup> Free education?
[04:29:00] <aria> You say that
[04:29:03] <aria> but houses matter
[04:29:09] <Tiwi> that's norway apsup
[04:29:13] <Tiwi> we've got free uni
[04:29:18] <Tiwi> basically
[04:29:33] <aria> Subsided uni, in most cases
[04:29:34] <Tiwi> hell ya physics
[04:29:49] <Apsup> So do we.
[04:29:51] <Tiwi> also aria I will call on you when i need to learn python next semester
[04:29:57] <Tiwi> I'll just "skim" it
[04:30:05] <aria> 'sir
[04:30:08] <Tiwi> if I don't*
[04:30:16] <aria> (as in, 100% subsidized, but the university isn't directly government employed)
[04:30:41] <Tiwi> i pay... I think 70 dollars every semester
[04:31:02] <aria> Ok, 99% subsidized =P
[04:32:25] <aria> But I'm not going there to study
[04:32:29] <aria> so that doesn't matter
[04:32:41] <aria> (also, I don't think a US deploma would be worth much here..)
[04:32:51] <aria> No healthcare is a concern..
[04:32:51] <Tiwi> well ivy league is
[04:33:04] <aria> But a plane ticket home isn't that expensive
[04:33:18] <aria> So I can fly over for a weekend, be healed for free, then go back
[04:33:42] <Tiwi> yeah
[04:33:49] <Tiwi> go meet up with snsamannen
[04:34:00] <Tiwi> that old man will touch you for free!
[04:35:12] <aria> How concerned should I be about saftey when I'd be staying home 70% of the time, with the only exceptions being food and occasional entertainment?
[04:35:29] <aria> Even home-cooking supplies would be provided by Amazon.
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[04:45:30] <aria> Should I wake Bronz up so he can figure out his shitty dutch bank?
[04:45:52] <aria> Or pay for my own video games?
[04:48:15] <aria> (80% select GoG games)
[04:49:10] <aria> Also their site is super slow for some reason
[04:49:45] <aria> Seems maybe it's on my end.
[04:50:29] <Apsup> That kind of Gog.com promotions are problematic when I don't even know 90% of their catalogue. It's like "choose from these games" and I'm like "I've heard about this one, and have no idea about the rest".
[04:50:49] <aria> This one is pretty good
[04:50:54] <aria> I've heard of all of them
[04:51:10] <aria> Though..
[04:51:12] <aria> I don't know what they are
[04:51:24] <aria> This one for example, "Lucius" I've heard of it, sure
[04:51:44] <aria> But no clue what it is
[04:51:58] <aria> though for 3 bucks?
[04:51:58] <aria> Why not
[04:51:58] <aria> Same with King's Bounty
[04:52:21] <Apsup> I bought multiple games because of that bundle without prior knowledge about them. Kind's Bounty I had heard about and it was in my five.
[04:52:47] <aria> Oh?
[04:52:49] <aria> Can you...
[04:52:54] <aria> play it and tell me what is is?
[04:53:05] <Apsup> Nah, it goes to my backlog.
[04:53:20] <aria> Can you boot it up and tell me if its 3D or not?
[04:53:57] <Apsup> I would have to download it, install it, and boot it to see something you can check from youtube?
[04:54:13] <aria> ...
[04:54:14] <aria> Fair enough
[04:54:22] <aria> But I can't understand quality from that
[04:54:24] <Apsup> What does it even matter.
[04:54:41] <aria> Well I wanted to know what decade it was from
[04:54:52] <Apsup> It's clearly tactics game. Graphix mean shit in those. And I mean even less than usually.
[04:55:21] <aria> It's a tactics-style game?
[04:55:21] <aria> Meh
[04:55:38] <aria> I'll switch it out for Grandpa's Leftovers
[04:55:38] <Apsup> Didn't you even look at the screenshots`?
[04:55:45] <Apsup> There are clearly some hexes there.
[04:55:57] <aria> I-- didn't see any. Im on the promo page
[04:55:57] <Apsup> You don't play real time action brawler on hexes.
[04:56:13] <aria> I wonder if this is the full game or some add-on..
[04:56:17] <Apsup> Click the name of the fucking game to go to it's page to see some info.
[04:56:45] <aria> Their page was loading very slow before (it's fixed now) so I took to googling instead. I was getting to it
[04:56:59] <aria> I first wanna know if Grandpa's leftover is the core game or an addon
[04:59:42] <aria> Lucius looks cool
[05:01:43] <nine> < aria> You're watching that moe show about the wood carving girl
[05:01:45] <nine> Wut?
[05:01:49] <nine> No?
[05:02:02] <aria> What were you watching?
[05:02:26] <nine> < Tiwi> but just be obsessed with dumb showes about little girls
[05:02:29] <nine> Good thing I'm not.
[05:02:36] <nine> < aria> Kannagi
[05:02:37] <nine> Oh, that show.
[05:02:39] <nine> I've seen that.
[05:02:45] <nine> Not that moe.
[05:02:51] <nine> Also not little.
[05:03:11] <nine> Also, Kannagi's a goddess as well. Good memory.
[05:03:43] <nine> OKAY TIME TO SCROLL DOWN AND SEE WHAT RESPONSES I GOT.
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[05:03:55] <nine> Also, I am still watching Lobos.
[05:04:17] <aria> Did he ask for me
[05:04:25] <aria> Lobus is not a moe show..
[05:04:27] <nine> No. Why you ask?
[05:04:39] <nine> He just fucked up his shield only run by not talking to Siegu.
[05:05:40] <nine> Also, I watched Kannagi as it came out.
[05:05:47] <nine> It was not great, but entertaining enough.
[05:10:48] <aria> Because I'm wondering if I should join, obviously!
[05:11:05] <aria> I also watched Kannagi
[05:11:11] <aria> not as it came out, but when it was still new
[05:11:31] <aria> I enjoyed it enough, wouldn't pay for it, but worth the time it took to watch
[05:11:45] <aria> However, it was very moe
[05:12:06] <aria> One of the most moe shows I've watched to completion
[05:13:48] <aria> Cybylt: Have you played the Back to the Future games?
[05:13:49] <aria> Any good?
[05:13:57] <Cybylt> Nah
[05:14:01] <Cybylt> I haven't
[05:14:04] <aria> There aren't 10 games here I want
[05:14:04] <Robobuntoo> You can't t ten games!
[05:14:08] <aria> but there are more than 5
[05:14:22] <aria> to I get 2 packs, or 1 and give up on some great deals?
[05:15:10] <aria> I dislike everything about this trailer http://youtu.be
[05:15:27] <aria> But that's kinda why I wanna play it, so I can---
[05:15:34] <aria> I dunno, learn what people I disagree with like
[05:16:11] <aria> Is that a legit reason?
[05:17:27] <Cybylt> I heard it was okay since at the least the protagonist isn't what you'd call typical.
[05:17:32] <Cybylt> He's kind of a douche
[05:17:44] <aria> That's common.
[05:17:57] <Cybylt> he knows and accepts he's a douche
[05:18:07] <Cybylt> which is the different part
[05:19:58] <aria> Oh dude
[05:20:02] <aria> this back to the future trailer
[05:20:07] <aria> this looks so much better
[05:20:08] <aria> god damn
[05:20:45] <Cybylt> I think it's pretty simple to find out if you like it or not
[05:20:58] <Cybylt> Do you like Tell-Tale Games' games?
[05:21:20] <aria> Somtimes. I wasn't confident they could do Back to the Future well
[05:21:29] <aria> and I assumed it was the plot of the movies
[05:21:50] <Cybylt> I thought it was it's own thing, or a sequel of sorts
[05:22:18] <aria> It is it's own ting
[05:22:20] <aria> thing*
[05:23:18] <aria> Puddle seems interesting.
[05:23:47] <aria> I guess Im putting together 2 packs.
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[05:35:13] <nine> < aria> However, it was very moe
[05:35:15] <nine> No it wasn't.
[05:36:02] <nine> It's a full on harem show, and it was before major moe shows.
[05:40:42] <nine> Actually, it was 2008 (holy crap), so while a year before K-On, not completely before the shit got crazy.
[05:40:43] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[05:40:54] <nine> Though it's still not "very moe".
[05:41:17] <nine> It was more a tsundere rivalry than moe nonsense.
[05:41:17] <aria> It's very moe compared to the stuff Ive seen.
[05:41:32] <nine> That's my second line don't you interupt me you dick.
[05:41:47] <nine> It might be more moe than other stuff you've seen, but you've only watched 3 shows!
[05:43:06] <aria> I've watched many non moe shows. They were not moe. Kannagi was. Even if there is worse something doesn't mean Kannagi isn't that thing.
[05:45:22] <nine> It's not really.
[05:45:37] <nine> Though it's been a while since I watched it, I don't recall that much moe nonsense.
[05:46:09] <aria> "tsundere rivalry" isn't enough?
[05:46:26] <nine> That's not really that moe though.
[05:46:32] <nine> It's just harem shenanigans.
[05:46:43] <aria> What counts as moe to you?
[05:46:50] <nine> Cute being taken too far.
[05:46:55] <nine> Like Chuu-bra.
[05:47:09] <aria> Isn't Chuubra just porn?
[05:47:19] <aria> Tsundere rivalry is cute taken too far
[05:48:06] <nine> No it's not.
[05:48:14] <nine> It's two bitches being complete cunts to each other.
[05:48:15] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[05:48:29] <aria> While nerds fap.
[05:48:30] <nine> And Chuu-bra's not just porn.
[05:48:39] <nine> It was broadcasted on TV.
[05:48:48] <nine> During 'normal' anime hours.
[05:48:49] <aria> So is porn after 12
[05:48:56] <aria> Which is also after 12
[05:49:25] <aria> Girls peeing themselves the serial was also broadcast on TV
[05:50:46] <nine> Whut?
[05:56:34] <nine> Title of your average anime episode: "How He Came to Love the Girl Despite Being a Normal High Schooler Who Cannot Even Sense in the Slightest That the Universe Is at Risk of Destruction, and Suppresses a Vague Worry That Tomorrow the Sun May Not Rise from the Same Direction or at the Same Speed or Even Shine at the Same Luminance and Follow the Same Orbit"
[05:57:16] <aria> Can you tell me anything else about this show?
[05:57:20] <aria> Is it currently airing?
[05:57:23] <aria> What is the Japanese title?
[06:03:45] <nine> It's not currently airing.
[06:04:16] <nine> It's the show where Nyarlathotep is a cute girl that starts living with some personality-less twat of a boy.
[06:06:08] <Apsup> Oh my friend talked about that.
[06:06:26] <Apsup> But he's taste on anime is so so, so I didn't pay too much attention to that.
[06:18:02] <nine> His taste*
[06:18:13] <nine> It's not worth your time.
[06:18:17] <nine> Go watch From the New World instead.
[06:19:49] <Apsup> I would just like to see the latest episode of Bakuman. It's always over.
[07:13:41] <aria> I watched the Lobos stream
[07:13:43] <aria> what now?
[07:14:11] <aria> Also, which DkS NPC would you enjoy sex with the most?
[07:25:01] <aria> Do we have someone in here who works at Valve?
[07:25:45] <aria> On the front page, it says "Featured PC Games" "Featured Mac Games" "Featured Linux Games"
[07:26:08] <aria> Also Win and Mac have professional (although outdated) gray logos
[07:26:18] <aria> Linux has a image of Tux's head
[07:26:32] <aria> "PC" should be changed to Windows, the Tux should be changed with the Linux logo
[07:26:53] <aria> also the Mac and Windows logos should be updated to the Win 8 and Mac OS X logos
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[07:55:03] <Cybylt> That was a slur I never thought I would hear outside of US history classes
[07:55:09] <Cybylt> "Freakin wops"
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[15:18:31] <MrBRAD> Hi Bronzdragon
[15:18:47] <Bronzdragon> Hai Brad.
[15:19:24] <MrBRAD> I am almost 20 and haven't done shiiiit with my life aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
[15:19:41] <MrBRAD> I did web design diploma, that was something
[15:20:00] <MrBRAD> but not a whole lot else! I am on a road to fixing this though
[15:20:14] <Bronzdragon> Start small
[15:21:44] <MrBRAD> I bought some hosting and have a bit of a test site up, I'm thinking I want to start a blog about how I became not-an-unmotivated-loser
[15:22:05] <MrBRAD> I need to get my head around wordpress though
[15:22:31] <MrBRAD> I used it once, and had a whole bunch of trouble styling it
[15:22:41] <Bronzdragon> Wordpress isn't "press these buttons and you have a website"?
[15:23:07] <MrBRAD> It can be, but I don't like just using somebody else's theme
[15:24:20] <Bronzdragon> I see
[15:25:46] <MrBRAD> I want this as a personal site and a portfolio piece, so I'm not looking for a "click button, get site" site
[15:26:27] <Bronzdragon> Meh
[15:32:04] <Tiwi> ello
[15:32:24] <Tiwi> you're almost 20?
[15:32:30] <Tiwi> and haven't done anything :O
[15:32:37] <MrBRAD> :(
[15:32:38] <Tiwi> OMG you're like some normal person
[15:32:40] <Tiwi> or something
[15:32:58] <Tiwi> I am 20 and I haven't done anything either. Let's make a company that scams people
[15:33:09] <MrBRAD> sounds good
[15:33:14] <Tiwi> that'll make us feel better right?
[15:33:18] <MrBRAD> do we go for the elderly?
[15:33:22] <Tiwi> yepp
[15:33:28] <Bronzdragon> Hey, I'm 23, can I also scam people?
[15:33:31] <Tiwi> yeah
[15:33:34] <Bronzdragon> Or am I being scammed?
[15:33:36] <Tiwi> you can program
[15:33:40] <Bronzdragon> =D
[15:33:42] <Tiwi> that's ideal for scamming
[15:33:54] <Bronzdragon> With Brad's webdesign, my programming, And tiwi's good looks
[15:33:59] <Bronzdragon> We are... the scammers!
[15:34:00] <Tiwi> lol
[15:34:04] <MrBRAD> I'm not sure, aren't you some kind of 'achiever' or something Bronz?
[15:34:19] <Bronzdragon> Pfft, I wasn't even able to finish school
[15:34:30] <Tiwi> I thought i was gonna be the physicist...
[15:34:32] <Bronzdragon> And I haven't had a job in about a year
[15:34:40] <MrBRAD> I have never had a job!
[15:34:41] <Tiwi> ey Bronzdragon!
[15:34:44] <MrBRAD> beat that!
[15:34:45] <Tiwi> finish school
[15:34:48] <Tiwi> you slob
[15:35:11] <Tiwi> *shakes old man fist*
[15:35:14] <Bronzdragon> ...
[15:35:17] <Bronzdragon> I would if I could =(
[15:35:19] <MrBRAD> I am going to carpet bomb a few shopping centres with resumes this week
[15:35:26] <Bronzdragon> D=
[15:35:29] <Tiwi> if you could?
[15:35:53] <Tiwi> mr brad
[15:36:03] <Tiwi> you do know you can work in webdesign before finishing school
[15:36:07] <Tiwi> i mean...
[15:36:26] <Tiwi> just find some web based corp and say you wanna work for them
[15:36:40] <Tiwi> people are too shy on the internet :/
[15:37:24] <MrBRAD> I've searched around and applied to a few local studios. Need to do it a bit more though.
[15:37:36] <Tiwi> fuck locals
[15:37:37] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[15:37:40] <Tiwi> go big
[15:37:55] <Bronzdragon> Wait, did you mean that literal?
[15:37:58] <Bronzdragon> Get into porn?
[15:38:07] <Tiwi> hahaha
[15:38:10] <Tiwi> he's nearly 20
[15:38:12] <Tiwi> it'd work!
[15:38:25] <Tiwi> depending on his penile size
[15:39:09] <MrBRAD> Tiwi, I finished my diploma at the end of last year, only studying at home now and wasting time doing nothing
[15:39:22] <Tiwi> ok mr brad
[15:39:24] <MrBRAD> I think I need to do an internship or heck, even volunteer a bit somewhere because I am pretty crap and have no portfolio
[15:39:35] <Tiwi> I'm gonna find you somewhere to wrok
[15:39:45] <Tiwi> just apply
[15:39:50] <Tiwi> they need fresh people
[15:40:14] <Tiwi> there's seriously a lack of people who can do programing
[15:40:19] <Tiwi> if you didn't realize
[15:40:37] <Tiwi> just ask
[15:41:00] <Tiwi> send someone at the company an email an inquire if you can get a job so you can get that experience
[15:41:03] <MrBRAD> I picked up programming pretty well but I haven't touched it since I learned the basics
[15:42:03] <Bronzdragon> Did you like it?
[15:42:06] <Bronzdragon> The programming?
[15:42:08] <Tiwi> when i said programing i meant using the interface to design websites
[15:42:16] <Bronzdragon> Because if there's anythig people need, it's people who can program websites
[15:42:16] <Tiwi> people are surprisingly dumb
[15:42:27] <Tiwi> *looks at bronze*
[15:42:36] <Tiwi> you per example?
[15:42:37] <Bronzdragon> You have an E too many there.
[15:43:08] <MrBRAD> Bronzdragon: my diploma went into javascript but nothing else. No webdev. I think an internship would be a good way of breaking into that
[15:43:23] <Bronzdragon> hehe, javascript.
[15:43:38] <Tiwi> ey brad
[15:43:43] <Tiwi> learn python with me
[15:43:50] <MrBRAD> I come across enough stone walls of 'what the fuck am I reading' in web design frameworks and things as it is without going into webdev
[15:43:50] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[15:44:09] <MrBRAD> yeah sure why not
[15:44:18] <Tiwi> even if i would rather learn C++
[15:44:34] <Tiwi> but I have heard python is easier?
[15:44:34] <MrBRAD> the programming I did learn was in C++
[15:44:44] <Tiwi> ey Bronzdragon
[15:44:51] <MrBRAD> I have heard the same
[15:45:01] <MrBRAD> BRONZ TELL US TELL US BRONZ
[15:45:06] <Tiwi> I learned what segfold was the other day
[15:45:09] <Bronzdragon> tell you what?
[15:45:13] <Bronzdragon> ... segfold?
[15:45:16] <Bronzdragon> You mean seg fault?
[15:45:19] <MrBRAD> tell us the things
[15:45:22] <Bronzdragon> Short for segment fault?
[15:45:25] <Tiwi> yeah Bronzdragon my bad
[15:45:39] <Bronzdragon> That means you did something wrong
[15:45:39] <Tiwi> but now a lot more kxcd make sense to me!
[15:45:47] <Bronzdragon> And you should probably not work so low level.
[15:45:50] <Tiwi> i means you adresssed memory you didn't?
[15:46:00] <Tiwi> have access too*
[15:46:02] <Tiwi> right?
[15:46:06] <Bronzdragon> Yes, you tried to access memory that wasn't yours
[15:46:14] <Bronzdragon> Which... usually is fine
[15:46:18] <Tiwi> yeah... that's the kind of stuff I need to learn
[15:46:19] <Bronzdragon> But sometimes it's in use by somethign else
[15:46:21] <Bronzdragon> And that's bad.
[15:46:25] <Tiwi> i mean, that "low"
[15:46:38] <Bronzdragon> Then the OS goes all "Nu-uh! you're a bad software >=("
[15:46:54] <Bronzdragon> And then it fuckin' straight up MURDERS the program.
[15:46:55] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[15:47:09] <Tiwi> lol
[15:47:27] <Tiwi> oh well, turns out that doing particle physics at cern requires programing
[15:47:48] <Tiwi> and I have a course that requires me to go to cern and do exactly that
[15:48:00] <Tiwi> so phython it is
[15:49:09] <Bronzdragon> Python does memory manegment for you
[15:49:22] <Bronzdragon> If you really want to learn proper memory magegment, go C
[15:49:28] <Bronzdragon> And only use pointers
[15:49:32] <Tiwi> I realize that
[15:49:32] <Bronzdragon> Because that's insane
[15:49:50] <Tiwi> I still need to learn the language
[15:49:57] <Tiwi> which is why I need to learn phython
[15:49:57] <Bronzdragon> But if you want to learn useful programming, learn python
[15:50:07] <Bronzdragon> Or rather, the best way to learn programming is to make yourself a goal
[15:50:07] <Tiwi> didn't MIT have a python course?
[15:50:12] <Bronzdragon> "I want an application that does X"
[15:50:18] <Bronzdragon> And then make something that does X
[15:50:32] <Bronzdragon> If you do not set yourself a goal, what are you learning? It's really hard to 'learn' a language
[15:50:38] <Tiwi> "I want an application that can handle linear algebraic functions"
[15:50:40] <Bronzdragon> Besides, almost everythign you need in programming is in all the languages.
[15:50:57] <Bronzdragon> Well, then you don't need much.
[15:51:19] <Bronzdragon> Unless you want any arbitrary function input to work...
[15:51:19] <Tiwi> great
[15:51:21] <Bronzdragon> that might be harder.
[15:51:32] <Tiwi> it's matrixes
[15:51:35] <Tiwi> usually
[15:51:38] <Tiwi> oh wait
[15:51:55] <Tiwi> linear algebra is pretty fucked once you get into transformations i guess.
[15:51:56] <Robobuntoo> ...
[15:53:16] <Bronzdragon> That said, mathematicians totally write programs to do calculations for them
[15:53:26] <Bronzdragon> that are too hard or impractial to do on a normal calculator
[15:53:33] <Bronzdragon> it's easier to handle large sets of data that way.
[15:53:52] <Tiwi> tis true
[15:53:53] <Bronzdragon> So, just say to yourself, "I want to solve for THIS function"
[15:53:55] <Bronzdragon> Then write something for that.
[15:54:22] <Tiwi> I WILL!
[15:54:29] <Tiwi> and then make games
[15:54:31] <MrBRAD> I'm a lazy shit and learning python alongside somebody else would help me a lot
[15:54:31] <Tiwi> i guess
[15:54:31] <Robobuntoo> ...
[15:54:51] <Tiwi> let's just do the MIT course then
[15:55:06] <Bronzdragon> Sure, knock yourself out.
[15:55:08] <MrBRAD> Don't expect me to go into crazy math though, I stopped at calculus and that was 3 years ago
[15:55:24] <Bronzdragon> Eh, math is easy when you just have to write it down
[15:55:28] <Bronzdragon> Rather than solve it.
[15:55:53] <MrBRAD> I failed the shit out of math. Good times!
[15:55:54] <Robobuntoo> ...
[15:56:16] <MrBRAD> what's this MIT Python course and how much does it cost?
[15:56:40] <Bronzdragon> MIT put a bunch of courses online for free
[15:56:48] <Bronzdragon> Like, 2 months ago.
[15:57:01] <MrBRAD> how many pages will $10 get me
[15:57:28] <Tiwi> wait
[15:57:30] <MrBRAD> Tiwi: is this what you were looking at? http://ocw.mit.edu
[15:57:33] <Tiwi> you had calculus 3 years ago?
[15:57:49] <MrBRAD> I don't even know what that link really is
[15:57:53] <MrBRAD> yeah, high school
[15:58:02] <Tiwi> <.<
[15:58:06] <Tiwi> that's weird
[15:58:19] <MrBRAD> is it?
[15:58:25] <Tiwi> well i guess there's different degrees of calculus
[15:58:37] <Tiwi> becasue I take calculus now in uni
[15:59:06] <MrBRAD> yeah, it would have been the lowest form of it
[16:00:14] <Bronzdragon> there are many levels of math
[16:00:25] <Tiwi> the stuff i have right now is pretty fucked
[16:01:34] <Tiwi> guess I'll start reading
[16:01:38] <Tiwi> http://ocw.mit.edu
[16:01:40] <MrBRAD> I want to make an irc bot that automatically swears at Robobuntoo
[16:02:10] <Tiwi> I wanna make an irc bot that sweares just out of robuntoo's reach
[16:02:19] <Tiwi> add all swear words he doesn't react to
[16:02:21] <Tiwi> like cunt
[16:03:28] <MrBRAD> if I made something that swore every time robo posted it might make a loop >:)
[16:03:49] <Tiwi> yeppz
[16:03:59] <Tiwi> it wouldn't might be a loop
[16:04:01] <Tiwi> it would be one
[16:04:19] <MrBRAD> robo might stop responding after a while, I don't know
[16:04:44] <Tiwi> let's check
[16:04:46] <Tiwi> fuck
[16:04:54] <MrBRAD> fuck you robo
[16:04:55] <Tiwi> yepp
[16:05:03] <MrBRAD> aww fuck
[16:05:20] <Bronzdragon> I would test by /msg-ing Robobuntoo
[16:05:28] <Bronzdragon> Coz then you don't fuck up #geeknights
[16:05:31] <Bronzdragon> (Juz' sayin')
[16:06:11] <MrBRAD> robo has gone all silent on us
[16:06:15] <MrBRAD> ubuntu
[16:06:15] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[16:06:21] -!- aria [aria!AriaDesu@hide-2D1A9BEE.getinternet.no] has joined #geeknights
[16:06:23] <Bronzdragon> Robot-overlord has go- -aww
[16:06:24] <Bronzdragon> Hey!
[16:06:26] <Bronzdragon> Aria!
[16:07:41] <Tiwi> fuck aria
[16:07:41] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:07:48] <Tiwi> good boy
[16:08:20] <Tiwi> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net
[16:08:24] <Bronzdragon> I wanna fuck aria =(
[16:08:25] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:08:27] <Tiwi> good after noon
[16:08:43] <Tiwi> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net
[16:08:53] <Bronzdragon> That is an lady
[16:10:14] <Tiwi> ey
[16:10:23] <Tiwi> I am a man that likes ladies
[16:12:23] <aria> You wanna fuck me, Tiwi?
[16:12:24] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:12:39] <Tiwi> no we were trying to get rob to respong
[16:12:40] <Tiwi> d*
[16:12:57] <aria> I see
[16:13:10] <aria> that lady has large breasts and green hair. Also bats
[16:13:13] <Bronzdragon> ... You're silly
[16:13:15] <aria> is she trying to look like Morrigan?
[16:13:19] <Bronzdragon> Who woudln't wanna fuck Aria's little butt
[16:13:20] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:13:25] <Bronzdragon> It's all-- y'know what? I'll stop
[16:14:51] <Tiwi> she's in a morrigan "costume"
[16:15:07] <Tiwi> a morrigan yukata
[16:15:11] <Tiwi> or whatever that is called
[16:15:44] <aria> The costume part needs work
[16:15:54] <aria> But she got the breasts and hair colour spot on
[16:16:33] <aria> So I got this email
[16:16:39] <aria> "Thank you for your application for the position as Web Editor at QuestBack. We will be back regarding next steps in this process after Easter. "
[16:16:41] <aria> After easter?
[16:16:58] <Tiwi> it's a week away
[16:17:03] <aria> I see
[16:17:08] <aria> So 2 weeks?
[16:17:11] <MrBRAD> gibe me job pls
[16:17:33] <aria> I was told you always get every job you get an interview at
[16:17:49] <aria> I got a interview, guy seemed impressed (though I did-- do.. bad things)
[16:17:58] <aria> But he hasn't called back. But like almost 2 weeks
[16:18:39] <MrBRAD> the worst part about job searching isn't the rejections, it's the non-responses :(
[16:18:47] <aria> I agree.
[16:19:14] <aria> I wish I had jobs to give you
[16:19:28] <aria> I actually managed to get one job--
[16:19:33] <MrBRAD> do you have a website that you need badly designed?
[16:19:39] <aria> But it's super badly paying
[16:20:02] <MrBRAD> badly designed in the sense of it being bad, not in the 'urgent' meaning
[16:20:49] <aria> Steampowered.com
[16:21:14] <MrBRAD> you need me to make a bad replacement to that?
[16:21:31] <aria> Wait, you wanna make it worse?
[16:21:34] <MrBRAD> I'm not sure I can... It's nothing great right now
[16:21:58] <MrBRAD> my badness can only make it slightly worse, probably not worth the pittance of pay I would ask
[16:22:34] <MrBRAD> Yeah, worse. I am a bad web designer by trade.
[16:23:00] <aria> I can see you're having trouble finding work. Though that's a pretty cool profession
[16:23:03] <aria> I admire you
[16:23:33] <MrBRAD> :3
[16:24:23] <aria> This wifi card is 100 bucks!
[16:24:26] <MrBRAD> Tiwi: I'm going to start that python course tomorrow
[16:24:34] <Tiwi> yeah!
[16:24:56] <MrBRAD> Not because I am lazy and put things off to tomorrow constantly (I do) but because it is 2:30am
[16:25:15] <aria> How much is a cheap wifi dongle or card? Surely I don't need this $100 card...
[16:26:21] <MrBRAD> if it is a 5GHz N series it is probably worth 100
[16:26:54] <MrBRAD> 100 probably means more to you though, since I am used to the Australia Tax
[16:27:28] <aria> Norwegian tax is worse. It'll end up being $350~$400
[16:27:50] <aria> I'm buying a wifi dongle becuase I don't wanna move the stuff that's in front of the router. Otherwise I am within ethernet range
[16:27:57] <MrBRAD> I dunno, norway isn't thaaaat far away from the rest of the world
[16:28:23] <Tiwi> <-<
[16:28:28] <Tiwi> 25% tax
[16:28:31] <Tiwi> on everything
[16:28:36] <Tiwi> and more on electronicz
[16:28:47] <aria> 25% is minimum
[16:28:57] <aria> anything that has regulated tax gets taxed on top of that
[16:28:59] <MrBRAD> the 'Australia Tax' isn't a govt tax, it is the fact that everything costs a shit ton more in australia
[16:29:00] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:29:05] <aria> 75% of electronics on top of the 25%
[16:29:10] <Tiwi> oh god
[16:29:16] <Tiwi> I forgot
[16:29:33] <aria> Also import tax
[16:29:37] <aria> which is... 20%?
[16:29:39] <MrBRAD> Norway doesn't sound so great about prices though either
[16:29:56] <Tiwi> brad how much does a bottle of soda cost?
[16:30:26] <MrBRAD> a 375ml can of coke is 1.60 from vending machines
[16:30:29] <aria> A 1.5l bottle is about 5 bucks here
[16:30:41] <MrBRAD> hmm shit, I don't go shopping much
[16:30:41] <Robobuntoo> ...
[16:30:46] <aria> Those are about 2-3
[16:30:48] <MrBRAD> yeah we'd not be far off that
[16:31:02] <Tiwi> yey brad
[16:31:05] <Tiwi> we're equally fucked
[16:31:06] <Robobuntoo> ...
[16:31:11] <aria> To be fair, coke wouldn't be that badly overpriced here
[16:31:17] <MrBRAD> it varies a fair bit
[16:31:27] <Tiwi> neither is heroin
[16:31:29] <aria> we mostly get fucked for alcohol and electronics
[16:31:30] <Robobuntoo> ...
[16:31:31] <aria> and cars
[16:31:37] <Tiwi> lol
[16:31:38] <Tiwi> cars
[16:31:41] <Tiwi> *facepalm*
[16:31:49] <Tiwi> wanna buy a car?
[16:31:53] <aria> Cars in the Americas are super cheaps
[16:31:54] <Tiwi> oh lol, no you don't
[16:32:07] <MrBRAD> buy a Lada
[16:32:11] <Tiwi> 30 grand car
[16:32:12] <aria> I don't. I live in Oslo, we have public transport
[16:32:14] <Apsup> aria: Reading that line whitout context seemed odd.
[16:32:15] <Tiwi> becomes a 300 grand
[16:32:49] <aria> =P
[16:36:17] <aria> MrBrad $100 for a Wifi card, + how much for a new router?
[16:36:34] <aria> I don't think not moving some boxes is worth that when I can just get ethernet
[16:36:37] <MrBRAD> that card is too expensive
[16:37:23] <MrBRAD> I think you'd want to spend $200 total at maximum, hopefully less
[16:37:56] <MrBRAD> move the boxes.
[16:38:23] <aria> It would litterally take all day
[16:38:28] <aria> http://www.amazon.com
[16:38:29] <MrBRAD> do it in bits!
[16:38:50] <MrBRAD> what is in these boxes, stone bricks?
[16:38:52] <aria> $300 for wifi..
[16:39:13] <aria> I wouldn't be surprised.
[16:40:06] <MrBRAD> http://unfuckyourhabitat.tumblr.com
[16:40:38] <aria> I don't even know where to start, there is so much stuff
[16:40:53] <MrBRAD> I don't need to be reminded to brush my teeth and clean the toilet, but I found that blog to be good motivation
[16:40:54] <MrBRAD> hmmm
[16:41:54] <MrBRAD> damn, I swear I read an SA thread where goons were cleaning up horrible rooms
[16:43:45] <MrBRAD> http://forums.somethingawful.com
[16:43:56] <MrBRAD> this is a good un'
[16:44:05] <Tiwi> ey aria
[16:44:07] <MrBRAD> Your room is not as bad as this.
[16:44:10] <MrBRAD> aria
[16:44:10] <Tiwi> how much range does taht thing have?
[16:45:00] <aria> Its network isn't gonna be busy, Tiwi
[16:45:12] <aria> range is enough, and it's not gonna have interference, it'll fix your wifi problems
[16:45:21] <aria> however, it won't wokr with your wifi card
[16:45:42] <aria> MrBRAD: That is pretty bad
[16:45:45] <aria> But it is
[16:45:54] <aria> What I'll be cleaning is a storage room
[16:45:59] <MrBRAD> well, follow along and be inspired!
[16:46:00] <aria> which is nothing but heavy boxes
[16:46:13] <MrBRAD> empty them boxes out!
[16:46:21] <MrBRAD> start with just one.
[16:46:34] <MrBRAD> are they taped up? Cut one open.
[16:46:39] <aria> I've went in there with that intent many-a-time
[16:46:44] <MrBRAD> make those boxes your bitch
[16:46:51] <Tiwi> wait
[16:46:52] <aria> Well no..
[16:46:58] <Tiwi> it won't work with my wifi card?
[16:47:34] <aria> Tiwi: Not the faster speed and more private channels
[16:47:39] <aria> You need a AC card
[16:47:45] <aria> You probably have n
[16:47:57] <aria> MrBRAD: The boxes themselves are heavy
[16:48:04] <Tiwi> FUCK THE FUTURE!
[16:48:05] <aria> it's like, wooden dressers
[16:48:09] <MrBRAD> N will still be able to access AC I think
[16:48:10] <Tiwi> XP FOR LIFE
[16:48:11] <aria> on top of other wooden dressers
[16:48:17] <MrBRAD> well rip a drawer out and carry it out of the room
[16:48:33] <aria> I was hoping--
[16:48:40] <aria> if I started a the buttom
[16:48:44] <MrBRAD> then get a bag and a box next to you. Box things you don't hate, and bag the rubbish
[16:48:51] <aria> I could get the a drawer out, and do the stuff I need to do behind it
[16:48:59] <aria> took about an hour to clear what was in front of that drawer
[16:49:06] <aria> then it turned out the dressed had a backwall
[16:49:32] <MrBRAD> get somebody to come help do it with you, that way when they turn up you can't just say 'I don't feel like doing it now'
[16:50:15] <aria> The room also happens to be refrigerated.
[16:50:24] <MrBRAD> huuuuh!?
[16:50:37] <MrBRAD> are you living in a zoo's penguin exhibit?
[16:50:55] <aria> Penguins and zoo's like dressers?
[16:51:09] <aria> There's a bike laying on it's side against the ceiling..
[16:51:34] <MrBRAD> so this room is sky high with "dressers" and bikes
[16:51:56] <aria> Its normal height
[16:52:07] <MrBRAD> yank on whatever is closest to the door until it comes out
[16:52:10] <aria> but there are things stacked on top of each other, and the room is taller than I am
[16:52:20] <aria> That would end super badly!
[16:52:24] <MrBRAD> is the stuff fragile?
[16:52:31] <aria> I might litterally die because something heavy fell on top of me
[16:52:40] <MrBRAD> use a stick!
[16:52:53] <MrBRAD> anything can be fixed by hitting it with a stick
[16:53:24] <MrBRAD> shove the stuff piled precariously on top backwards and off the stuff
[16:53:27] <aria> There's like a 40" CRT at the bottom that looks like its given in to the weight of whats on top of it.
[16:53:47] <MrBRAD> I think I need a photo
[16:53:51] <aria> =P
[16:54:05] <aria> It's not particullary exciting
[16:54:09] <aria> its just.. a bunch of stuff
[16:54:18] <MrBRAD> No stack of boxes and cabinets can be literally impenetrable
[16:54:37] <Tiwi> guys
[16:54:43] <Tiwi> wtf is wrong with people
[16:54:43] <aria> I just need to find where I added the last bit
[16:54:45] <aria> and remove that
[16:54:52] <aria> Me, Tiwi?
[16:55:01] <Tiwi> no those people
[16:55:03] <MrBRAD> this is no game of pick-up-sticks
[16:55:05] <Tiwi> in the forum you posted
[16:55:18] <MrBRAD> good ol SA
[16:56:21] <aria> I wish I could hire Golgo to shoot the trash away
[16:56:28] <MrBRAD> aria are there spiders in this room?
[16:56:34] <aria> I hope not.
[16:56:42] <aria> But we had spiders everywhere else
[16:56:45] <aria> and now we don't
[16:56:55] <MrBRAD> spiders are cuddly friends with lots of arms to hug you better
[16:57:38] <MrBRAD> how is that photo coming along? I must see this room
[16:58:06] <aria> I'm in bed..do you honestly wanna see a bunch of junk in a room?
[16:58:27] <MrBRAD> No. But tomorrow I will!
[16:58:36] <aria> =P
[16:58:50] <aria> Ill get a photo when I try cleaning it out
[16:59:45] <MrBRAD> I'll be back tomorrow. Tiwi, is there something I could add you to so you can tell me to stop being lazy and learn python other than just here over irc?
[16:59:59] <Tiwi> we'll start over IRC
[17:00:12] <MrBRAD> ok, I'll be back tomorrow
[17:00:21] <Tiwi> i have three obligatory assignments i need done this week but other than that I'll be ready
[17:00:29] <MrBRAD> righto!
[17:00:55] <MrBRAD> Time for bed. I am going to bed at 3am instead of 4. I'm improving my horrid lazy life!
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[17:04:49] <aria> Why do people like walls that are not white?
[17:05:16] <aria> I guess gray can be alright
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[18:04:28] <aria> http://25.media.tumblr.com
[18:04:34] <aria> http://24.media.tumblr.com
[18:04:41] <aria> I want that shirt.
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[19:11:02] <Bronzdragon> hai athenian200
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[21:04:43] <Bronzdragon> Hai yoshokatana.
[21:04:53] <yoshokatana> hola
[21:10:54] <Bronzdragon> wuzzup?
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[21:24:08] <Cybylt> Nvidia reps came out and said the gpu on the PS4 is low-end PC.
[21:24:15] <Cybylt> Which surprises nobody
[21:24:25] <Bronzdragon> Oh, really?
[21:24:30] <Bronzdragon> I'm somewhat surprised...
[21:24:39] <Bronzdragon> You'd think they'd embelish at least a little
[21:24:45] <Cybylt> and also the way he put it all just came off as them being really bitter for losing another bidding war with amd
[21:24:54] <Bronzdragon> Ohhh!
[21:24:55] <Bronzdragon> right
[21:25:04] <Cybylt> because nvidia doesn't do bulk rates or something
[21:26:44] <Cybylt> So yeah, half of the talk came off as him being butthurt, and the other came off as "stupid console peasants, pc master race4lyfe"
[21:28:56] <Bronzdragon> That sounds like they were really unprofessional
[21:29:09] <Bronzdragon> why would a top level guy take it personally anyway?
[21:29:15] <Bronzdragon> It's not like 'he' was rejected, right?
[21:30:07] <Cybylt> I think they may have been playing it up to appease the elitist pc gamer subgroup
[21:30:41] <Cybylt> I hope MH3U does a midnight release tomorrow night
[21:31:11] <Bronzdragon> Wouldn't they have announced that by now?
[21:33:58] <Cybylt> It's not a high profile release, but Gears of War definitely will do midnight release and that's coming out on the 19th as well
[21:34:11] <Cybylt> so chances are me and my brother can pick it up at midnight
[21:34:57] <Bronzdragon> Hopefully!
[21:35:03] <aria> Nvidia did? But the PS3 is AMD.
[21:35:13] <aria> Of course they'd say anything in the PS4 is bad
[21:35:14] <Bronzdragon> Nvidia is talking shit
[21:35:14] <aria> because AMD
[21:35:20] <aria> PS4*
[21:35:20] <Cybylt> Exactly
[21:35:22] <Bronzdragon> That's the point =P
[21:36:02] <Cybylt> I can't wait for MH3U, I want my hammers and lances run
[21:36:08] <Cybylt> S&S backup
[21:36:27] <aria> Also, fuck PS4, http://youtu.be
[21:36:37] <aria> I should've went for a Quadro card instead.
[21:38:16] <Cybylt> I think I'd pick up a PS4 at some point as long as there are interesting exclusives
[21:39:31] <Cybylt> that's pretty much all I need for a system, 4 or 5 worthwhile games. Though xbox's "features" are becoming more and more of a detriment than anything else so I think I'm done with them after 360
[21:40:18] <Cybylt> and what's nivida's SHIELD project?
[21:40:37] <Cybylt> nevermind, I know what it is now
[21:40:42] <Cybylt> this thing is going to flop hard
[21:40:55] <Cybylt> http://shield.nvidia.com
[21:41:04] <Bronzdragon> Eh, it
[21:41:09] <Bronzdragon> It'll find it's niche market
[21:41:23] <Cybylt> I don't think a niche market will cover its expenses
[21:41:47] <Bronzdragon> If they realize the best they will do is niche, they will
[21:41:55] <Bronzdragon> If they don't realize that, they're fucked
[21:42:16] <Cybylt> I doubt they'll realize it
[21:42:49] <Cybylt> price point and games is what will be the deciding factors
[21:43:06] <Cybylt> Sony's shown twice that you can't try to sell a portable on system power alone
[21:43:56] <Cybylt> though I think PSP will live on for a long time like dreamcast does for it's ease of modding and homebrew stuff
[21:44:27] <Cybylt> would be cool to see it become a place where people make their own little indie titles on it and hand out online like they do with dreamcast
[21:46:38] <Cybylt> I don't see them buring UMDs like they do the disks though
[21:46:44] <Bronzdragon> So.... Fast Karate 499B is out
[21:46:52] <Bronzdragon> Still no sign of 500 =P
[21:47:09] <Cybylt> I'll play that one once I'm caught up, I'm in the 300's now
[21:47:33] <Bronzdragon> ... You poor fortunate man
[21:47:45] <Cybylt> They talked about Monster Hunter and Persona 3/4 on one I played yesterday
[21:47:47] <Bronzdragon> How did you live all these years wihtout fast karate
[21:47:54] <Bronzdragon> And yet you have plentiful!
[21:47:55] <Cybylt> Dave called them both esoteric
[21:48:17] <Bronzdragon> They are, I guess, in their own way
[21:48:21] <aria> ...I don't think anyone is gonna buy a Shield so he can stream indie games from his Nvidia GPU that were recommended to be played on a shield, rather than just playing it on his computer
[21:48:26] <Bronzdragon> Which is the definition of esoteric
[21:48:30] <aria> And the same thing for native Android games
[21:48:48] <Bronzdragon> You don't think anyone's gonna emulate games on his PC, and stream them to his shield?
[21:48:57] <Bronzdragon> PS2 emulator, HO!
[21:49:00] <Cybylt> I get persona as esoteric in that a lot of it's systems are old school jrpg, monster hunter I don't get so much
[21:49:22] <Cybylt> Monster Hunter is simplicity in what you do, but complexity in how it gets done
[21:49:29] <aria> Eh if you have a shield, you can use it for PSP emulation
[21:49:37] <aria> but you're better off just getting a PSP
[21:49:44] <Bronzdragon> Well, there are very few people 'in the west' that play Monster Hunter
[21:49:45] <aria> so thats a bad motivating factor for purchasing one
[21:50:02] <Cybylt> it nearly hit 1 million sales "in the west" with tri
[21:50:06] <Cybylt> that's a pretty solid number
[21:50:18] <aria> Which Tri?
[21:50:19] <Bronzdragon> That podcast came from before tri, right?
[21:50:21] <aria> Tri on the Wii?
[21:50:23] <Cybylt> yeah
[21:50:26] <Cybylt> the wii one
[21:50:26] <aria> ...
[21:50:32] <Bronzdragon> thur ya go.
[21:50:35] <Cybylt> they were talking about the PSP one I think
[21:50:39] <Cybylt> the first psp one
[21:50:42] <aria> did 99% of them not pay the online fee and end up not being able to play?
[21:50:51] <Cybylt> online fee?
[21:51:01] <Bronzdragon> He's saying not nearly that many are online
[21:51:07] <aria> Tri has online
[21:51:07] <Cybylt> MH is only pay to play in japan
[21:51:08] <Bronzdragon> so there must be some reason (like an online fee)
[21:51:17] <Bronzdragon> He's not implying there's an actual fee.
[21:51:30] <aria> No, there is
[21:51:36] <Cybylt> only in japan
[21:52:17] <aria> Did the western version not have online?
[21:52:23] <Cybylt> It has online
[21:52:29] <aria> Hrm
[21:52:31] <Cybylt> and it was free
[21:52:36] <Cybylt> nintendo covered the server costs
[21:52:48] <aria> "Server costs" =P
[21:52:56] <Cybylt> and capcom wasn't dumb enough to try to pull subscription fees where it wasn't as popular
[21:53:16] <aria> Interesting.
[21:53:26] <Cybylt> as a result though, the servers were region based instead of international
[21:53:52] <Cybylt> Ultimate has free to play online as well, and as of april will have international servers
[21:54:04] <Cybylt> and voice chat on launch
[21:54:22] <aria> I see
[21:54:28] <aria> I just pirated the Japanese version.
[21:54:40] <Cybylt> of Tri?
[21:54:45] <aria> Yes
[21:55:00] <Cybylt> That's why you think we had subs too, huh?
[21:55:16] <aria> I guess
[21:55:20] <aria> Pirate version also had free online
[21:55:20] <Cybylt> all console MH titles were pay to play in japan, if I remember correctly
[21:55:25] <aria> but it was because pirate version
[21:56:05] <Cybylt> also Frontier
[21:56:11] <Cybylt> but the korean frontier was free to play as well
[21:57:07] <Apsup> Wait you pirated japanese version of Tri? Why?
[21:57:14] <aria> It came out first.
[21:57:15] <Cybylt> I'm not as big of a fan of frontier though, they stuck with the second gen engine after Tri came out and the majority of their designs are "It's like __________ but with more spikes"
[21:57:18] <aria> So I pirated it
[21:57:19] <aria> and played it
[21:57:45] <Cybylt> I got a japanese 3DS and TriG since I had given up on the series being localized anymore
[21:57:55] <Cybylt> gonna buy japanese 4 whenever that comes out
[21:58:18] <aria> I'll pirate Japanese 4.
[21:58:22] <Cybylt> and in a kind of "sucks for you" turnout, 3Ultimate was announced two months later
[21:58:43] <aria> In large part because I can't play a legit copy on a emulator.
[21:59:10] <aria> I'll buy the 4th Gen console game though.
[21:59:11] <Cybylt> the little differences for each market are kinda funny too
[21:59:20] <Apsup> I can play legit copies of PS2 games on emulator.
[21:59:29] <Apsup> But it's less hassle to just download the image.
[21:59:30] <Cybylt> like the japanese version played up the guild girls more while the english release focusses more on chacha
[21:59:34] <aria> Because optical drive
[21:59:59] <aria> there is no SD card in weird Nintendo plastic with custom connectors drive I can get for my PC
[22:00:45] <Cybylt> unless you know how to rip up a 3DS and wire it up to a pc yourself
[22:01:01] <Cybylt> but that is too much work for too little payoff
[22:01:55] <aria> I wish they just had a official emulator that let you access your physical 3DS online account and make purchaces through the store and play those games on your PC
[22:02:13] <aria> And also rip carts for playing those on PC
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[22:05:57] <Cybylt> why couldn't they give me a mako instead of the hammerhead/firewalker
[22:06:15] <Cybylt> damn tissue-armored hovercraft
[22:06:15] <Bronzdragon> Hai link-man
[22:06:16] <aria> I like the firewalker more.
[22:06:25] <Cybylt> I like the six-wheeled tank
[22:06:31] <Bronzdragon> Hammerhead can sidestrafe
[22:06:37] <Bronzdragon> Defeats the whole purpose if you ask me.
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[22:08:23] <Cybylt> but it can't climb an 80 degree incline, the moment it runs into something higher than it's jump height it is defeated, and might even explod
[22:08:25] <Cybylt> explode*
[22:08:44] <Bronzdragon> D=
[22:09:28] <aria> People say the Mako can deal with extreme angles
[22:09:32] <Bronzdragon> Which reminds me...
[22:09:40] <Bronzdragon> Why do you measure hills in percentages?
[22:10:01] <aria> It's measured in degrees, Bronz
[22:10:17] <Cybylt> because the mako can power through any planet they drop you on in ME1
[22:10:36] <aria> When I used the Mako, almost all my time was spent not being able to climb hills, and trying to glitch the physics and jerk the mako up by going slightly sideways and going down and coming back up with more momentum
[22:11:08] <aria> It was extremly slow and frustrating.
[22:11:37] <Cybylt> then you may not have been doing it right
[22:11:47] <aria> How do I do it right?
[22:12:04] <aria> Skyrim horses are way easier to walk up hills with.
[22:12:16] <Bronzdragon> http://www.etikettenworld.eu
[22:12:30] <Cybylt> Skyrim horses followed the mako's wonderful example
[22:12:39] <Bronzdragon> ^
[22:13:20] <Cybylt> http://1.asset.soup.io
[22:13:40] <Cybylt> bad captions aside
[22:13:43] <Cybylt> that's how you do it
[22:13:54] <aria> ...
[22:14:05] <aria> That map has invisible walls EVERYWHERE
[22:14:16] <aria> you have barely enough room to go straight forward
[22:14:29] <aria> Most of the time scraping against invsisible walls on either sides
[22:14:41] <aria> On every mother map, all the time is spent not being able to climb hills
[22:14:46] <Bronzdragon> How to mako; like a man
[22:15:14] <aria> Also that map has like 3m of verticallity
[22:15:22] <aria> Skyrim horses don't even notice 3m =P
[22:16:49] <aria> This card has 6 display port outs...
[22:16:51] <Bronzdragon> See...
[22:17:00] <Bronzdragon> In the future of Mass Effect
[22:17:11] <Bronzdragon> they were like "Remember horses? Too bad they don't work in space =("
[22:17:18] <Bronzdragon> and then they made the mako to try and recreate taht
[22:17:46] <Cybylt> Skyrim's horses are just makos in disguise
[22:17:56] <Cybylt> sadly their jets were removed
[22:18:14] <aria> Clearly you did not have the right mods installed
[22:18:19] <aria> My horses had jets.
[22:18:48] <Bronzdragon> Did you see the forum reply on your "Why I like apple" response?
[22:18:58] <Bronzdragon> It starts out with "Because I am Apple's customer."
[22:19:37] <Bronzdragon> "Google kills of RSS and Wave because federated services can not be monetized by third party advertising."
[22:19:46] <Bronzdragon> ... I'm pretty sure they killed wave because NOBODY was using it.
[22:20:03] <Bronzdragon> Also, that was not federated AT ALL
[22:20:23] <aria> ...
[22:20:28] <aria> Wave still lives..
[22:20:30] <aria> it's useful now
[22:20:34] <aria> It's in Docs
[22:20:45] <aria> I love Docs
[22:20:58] <aria> And it's in moderator
[22:20:59] <aria> also useful
[22:21:00] <Bronzdragon> Oh wow...
[22:21:02] <aria> and youtube
[22:21:03] <aria> also useful
[22:21:23] <Bronzdragon> "In the instances where Apple software is based on open source code they have put a shit ton of work into it to make the utter shitsack that is OSS user intarface / usabilty / compatibility / bugginess into something that actually works"
[22:21:41] <Bronzdragon> Also
[22:21:43] <Bronzdragon> "Meanwhile Mark "I've been to Space" Shuttleworth can't seem to get his act together and do the same with "Linux on the desktop(tm - every year since 2001)" without getting caught selling out his "customers"."
[22:22:36] <aria> ^o) I dunno man, last I checked, Mac OS is still not done transitioning to Gnome 3-mode
[22:22:51] <aria> And they've been at it for a while
[22:23:03] <aria> Apple does give a lot back to the community though, not gonna deny that
[22:23:24] <aria> But c'mon, regular CLI rsync is a million times easier to use than Timemachine =P
[22:23:51] <Bronzdragon> He actually does mention time machine
[22:24:00] <Bronzdragon> And subtitle support for AppleTV?
[22:24:01] <aria> Well copy/paste the entire post then
[22:24:15] <Bronzdragon> Too long
[22:24:18] <Bronzdragon> http://forum.frontrowcrew.com
[22:27:44] <Bronzdragon> "On most linux"? Is that correct?
[22:27:48] <Bronzdragon> On most linuxes?
[22:27:56] <aria> Linuxes I guess
[22:28:01] <aria> And sure, that was a rant.
[22:28:05] <Bronzdragon> It was.
[22:28:13] <aria> His argument is totally valid
[22:28:21] <aria> Apple sells directly to the costumer
[22:28:37] <aria> Google sells the costumer to ad companies
[22:28:48] <aria> Linux.. well Linux just gets money becuase it's Linux.
[22:28:54] <Bronzdragon> =P
[22:29:03] <aria> They get free devs because companies need support for shit
[22:29:21] <aria> and they get money from governments/large companies who rely on it
[22:30:10] <Bronzdragon> And also a lot of free work is being done by volunteers.
[22:30:25] <Cybylt> The creature list of 3 Ultimate was shown in full yesterday
[22:30:25] <aria> Not on Linux I don't think
[22:30:36] <aria> A lot of open source projects, for sure, but not Linux
[22:30:42] <Bronzdragon> Well, not directly, but a lot of things that go into 'linux' for the desktop
[22:30:49] <aria> Yes.
[22:32:11] <Cybylt> The entire Tri lineup plus 33 boss monsters and 5 smaller creatures
[22:33:56] <Bronzdragon> Is that a lot?
[22:35:08] <Cybylt> it is
[22:35:54] <Cybylt> and unlike Unite where the subspecies were "it's a different color, so it's stronger" the subspecies in 3U have different and unique moves
[22:36:35] <Cybylt> like Ivory Lagiacrus fights almost entirely on land and has new moves to make it a threat unlike the normal one which was almost entirely underwater and destroyed the moment it got out of the water
[22:37:10] <Cybylt> Or Pink Rathian having unique fire blasts, bites and a spinning backflip
[22:38:02] <Cybylt> Glacial Agnaktor works almost the opposite of the volcano-dwelling Agnaktor
[22:38:37] <Cybylt> freezing water blasts and its ice armor melts as it stays out over the frozen waters instead of having lava that hardens over time
[22:43:13] <Bronzdragon> http://www.youtube.com
[22:43:52] <Apsup> I don't understand how I was ever good at playing Metal Gear Solids. Aiming at first person on a controller is impossible for me now for some reason.
[22:44:08] <Bronzdragon> Aria showed me how it was done
[22:44:16] <Bronzdragon> I've never been able to come close to his skill...
[22:45:02] <Cybylt> Aiming in MGS3 takes holding four buttons doesn't it?
[22:45:07] <Cybylt> It was pretty ridiculous
[22:45:19] <Bronzdragon> Well, no, only two, but you need to be holding 2 at any one time
[22:45:30] <Bronzdragon> You could let go of the first 1 or 2 after aiming
[22:45:59] <Apsup> If you want to shoot while peeking it's two shoulder buttons and one face button.
[22:46:02] <Apsup> That's fun.
[22:46:21] <Bronzdragon> If not from cover, you can also lean, then shoot
[22:46:30] <Bronzdragon> Which, I believe, uses some of the same buttons?
[22:46:42] <Apsup> Yes, that's what I mean.
[22:46:55] <Bronzdragon> I see!
[22:47:13] <Apsup> Also if you need to be on your toes while shooting in first person it's three shoulder buttons and one face button.
[22:47:16] <Bronzdragon> If you want a metal gear game that shoots well, MGS4
[22:47:24] <Apsup> PS#.
[22:47:26] <Bronzdragon> If you want an REAL metal gear game that shoots well, MGS:Peace Walker
[22:47:27] <Apsup> *PS3
[22:47:38] <Apsup> eh.
[22:47:54] <Bronzdragon> I haven't played MSG4, I should mention =P
[22:47:57] <Bronzdragon> I
[22:48:02] <Bronzdragon> I'd like too...
[22:48:08] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup, buy me a PS3
[22:48:38] <Apsup> Why? Why wouldn't I buy one to myself first?
[22:48:51] <Bronzdragon> No, you like me.
[22:49:21] <Apsup> Not that much.
[22:49:31] <Bronzdragon> =(
[22:49:56] <Bronzdragon> ... Why do I have "Ridge Racer type 4" installed on my computer?
[22:50:06] <Apsup> Who knows.
[22:50:23] <Bronzdragon> "You need to run this script from the editor window in order to setup directplay."
[22:50:27] <Bronzdragon> I... awww
[22:50:30] <Bronzdragon> What editor!
[22:54:40] <aria> Hello
[23:11:02] <Cybylt> Peace Walker probably has the best controls, I mean the PSP one controlled okay, the HD collection one controls perfectly
[23:12:27] <Apsup> I probably will get the HD collection one day.
[23:12:57] <Bronzdragon> ONE DAY!
[23:13:00] <Apsup> Probably 2 and 3 have better playability with no slowdowns and other problems coming from emulation.
[23:13:08] <Bronzdragon> You can also buy the xbox live/PSN store version
[23:13:31] <Cybylt> Yeah, I think they started selling them separately
[23:13:35] <Apsup> I'll probably save a bunch of money from buying it used, not to mention I don't have hard drive space.
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[23:25:31] <Tivvi> oO
[23:25:35] <aria> Hi
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[23:26:25] <aria> I replied to the guy
[23:26:42] <Tivvi> and?
[23:26:48] <aria> Well just that.
[23:27:01] <aria> Canine224 posted this http://i.imgur.com
[23:27:02] <aria> I laughed
[23:27:32] <nine> Hi.
[23:27:38] <aria> Hi
[23:34:10] <Linkigi> hi
[23:37:10] <Tivvi> Hi
[23:37:22] <Bronzdragon> HAI GUYS
[23:41:28] <aria> So guys
[23:41:32] <aria> someone who works at TV3
[23:41:33] <aria> like high upå
[23:41:36] <aria> is a Gog.com fan
[23:41:52] <aria> They're showing Reddick because it's on sale on Gog for 2 bucks
[23:42:10] <aria> Guys being Tivvi and Apsup
[23:42:21] <aria> I don't think anyone else would know that channel
[23:42:35] <Tivvi> Oo
[23:42:36] <Tivvi> lol
[23:42:44] <Tivvi> thats weird
[23:42:46] <Tivvi> but cool
[23:42:53] <Bronzdragon> Aria's making half of that up!
[23:43:01] <Tivvi> tho i haven't got a tv subscription
[23:43:20] <aria> It's possible it's unrelated to the Gog sale. Highly unlikely.
[23:43:37] <Bronzdragon> :3
[23:46:17] <Bronzdragon> ... I have to log off to change Windows font size?
[23:46:20] <Bronzdragon> What madness is this?
[23:46:33] <aria> Good jerb MS
[23:46:37] <aria> Get Win 8
[23:46:43] <aria> its probably better about stuff..
[23:46:49] <Tivvi> fuck you
[23:46:55] <Tivvi> upgrade to xp Bronzdragon
[23:47:38] <Bronzdragon> Fuck you, I'll upgrade to Windows 3.1
[23:47:44] <aria> ...
[23:47:47] <aria> But thats not even good.
[23:48:15] <Bronzdragon> Fuck you, I'll upgrade to a 1992 Linux snapshot
[23:48:55] <aria> You are crazy.
[23:49:02] <Bronzdragon> May I ask a silly question?
[23:49:07] <Bronzdragon> What are the large Linux families?
[23:49:13] <Bronzdragon> Because you have Debian with Ubuntu and stuff
[23:49:13] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[23:49:20] <Bronzdragon> You have Redhat with Fedora...
[23:49:27] <Bronzdragon> You have... what else?
[23:49:33] <aria> Because less work than from scratch
[23:49:38] <Bronzdragon> Not why
[23:49:39] <Bronzdragon> which
[23:49:46] <aria> Oh right
[23:49:46] <Bronzdragon> A list of families is what I want.
[23:49:51] <aria> Suse..
[23:49:56] <aria> Um..
[23:50:00] <Bronzdragon> Arch, right?
[23:50:05] <aria> Its mostly Red Hat and Debian
[23:50:10] <aria> Nah, Arch is usually just arch
[23:50:18] <Bronzdragon> Well, yeah, but it's an...
[23:50:22] <Cybylt> nine, Hammerhead/Firewalker or Mako?
[23:50:22] <Bronzdragon> family of one person
[23:50:36] <aria> Oh you want ALL the families?
[23:50:52] <aria> Not just the ones with a bunch of things spanwed off it?
[23:50:54] <Bronzdragon> All the ones that have at least 5 current instals
[23:50:57] <Bronzdragon> Yes
[23:51:06] <aria> or at least a minimum of one thing that spanwed off something that spanwed off it
[23:51:15] <aria> Oh mans..
[23:51:19] <aria> Thats gonna take a while
[23:51:31] <Bronzdragon> Okay, just the popular ones then
[23:52:02] <aria> Well Suse, Arch
[23:52:04] <aria> PC Linux
[23:52:13] <aria> Slackware
[23:52:50] <aria> Puppy
[23:52:53] <aria> Manjaro?
[23:53:21] <Tivvi> http://www.kickstarter.com
[23:54:04] <aria> I can'
[23:54:08] <aria> t think of anything else
[23:54:49] <aria> http://distrowatch.com
[23:55:02] <aria> 49 families, says that
[23:55:08] <aria> I didn't proof read to look for false positives
[23:56:06] <Bronzdragon> I see
[23:56:15] <Bronzdragon> Thanks :3