#geeknights | Logs for 2013-03-14

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[00:00:03] <Bronzdragon> No more Robobuntoo... no more google reader
[00:00:11] <Bronzdragon> The apocolypse is near
[00:00:49] <aria> At least they open sourced Robobuntoo
[00:00:59] <aria> Google Reader will be gone forever!
[00:01:30] <Bronzdragon> =P
[00:01:30] <GauntletWizard> aria: I feel the need to point out cat-girl
[00:01:36] <GauntletWizard> with emphasis on the girl
[00:01:45] <Bronzdragon> ... you want to sex a cat(girl)?
[00:01:50] <GauntletWizard> (Seriously, you seen the artbook? Meow!)
[00:02:01] <aria> Like you don't want to sex a catgirl, Bronz
[00:02:14] <GauntletWizard> http://bit.ly
[00:02:31] <nine> There's a guy streaming Dark Souls.
[00:02:37] <aria> But she walks on all fours, and curls into a ball
[00:02:39] <nine> He's doing so while wearing armour.
[00:02:40] <aria> Is he funny?
[00:02:42] <aria> Link
[00:02:52] <nine> http://www.twitch.tv
[00:03:04] <nine> It's terrible though.
[00:03:09] <nine> The armour and the fastenings.
[00:03:42] <aria> I like his armor
[00:04:05] <nine> It's barely armour.
[00:04:10] <MrBRAD> he needs less of a haircut
[00:04:16] <nine> It's improperly fastened pauldrons and a low gorget.
[00:04:18] <MrBRAD> ie more hair
[00:12:38] <Bronzdragon> So...
[00:12:44] <Bronzdragon> What's up with the exploding gif?
[00:12:54] <aria> We like explosions.
[00:13:33] <Bronzdragon> =3
[00:16:40] <nine> iunno
[00:16:45] <nine> Did you ask him Bronz?
[00:16:52] <nine> Because we're just viewers like you.
[00:17:17] <aria> 100 people watching though
[00:30:17] <aria> I dunno, this guy seems pretty good
[00:30:23] <aria> Oh you meant his armour is bad.
[00:35:12] <nine> Yes. Lrn2read once again. :p
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[02:06:50] <Neito> Google Reader's going away July 1st. :<
[02:07:31] <nine> We know.
[02:07:38] <nine> We've discussed it already.
[02:07:41] <nine> Bring real news.
[02:07:58] <Neito> Have we recently discussed that you're kinda a jerk? :P
[02:07:58] <Bronzdragon> We've complained about it for an hour already
[02:08:08] <Bronzdragon> Yes, that too.
[02:08:13] <Bronzdragon> Really, it's an ongoing discussion
[02:08:14] <Neito> Drat.
[02:10:52] <Bronzdragon> Hey nine, You're a dick
[02:10:56] <Bronzdragon> You've also got one
[02:14:43] <Neito> http://i.imgur.com To make up for my previous failing, here's a pony dressed as the pope.
[02:17:50] <Bronzdragon> =D
[02:19:30] <GauntletWizard> Needs more fluttershy
[02:21:01] <Bronzdragon> Eh, I think Fluttershy isn't pedo enough
[02:21:13] <Bronzdragon> Out of all the ponies, she's most likely to molest
[02:21:21] <Bronzdragon> Though really, it SHOULD be molestia
[02:45:18] <GauntletWizard> ...
[02:46:48] <Bronzdragon> yes
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[03:36:46] <Cybylt> Nintendo was found guilty of copyright infringement on glasses-free 3D
[03:36:58] <Cybylt> or patent-infringement
[03:38:09] <Cybylt> so now they have to pay the inventor $30 million
[03:41:13] <Cybylt> And Treyarch is taking away exp and de-ranking people who have internet connections that are "too fast"
[03:41:22] <Cybylt> having a fiber-optic line is cheating, apparently
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[05:37:22] <nine> "To make up for my previous failing" That hardly makes up for it.
[05:37:26] <nine> Not at all if you ask me.
[06:12:09] <aria> =/
[06:12:13] <aria> I just lost a match
[06:12:26] <aria> I had a win streak of like 7 while watching the stream
[06:12:46] <aria> the guy I lost against was a child mask artorias sword guy
[06:13:11] <aria> He had way more health than me, and while he couldn't stagger through my hits, he could lag through them so that we both hit each other
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[06:16:30] <aria> Why are 400 people watching this guy draw sonic?
[06:16:47] <aria> It's not a particullary good Sonic so far
[06:16:58] <aria> Also I think he's drawing a penis on him...
[06:17:01] <aria> but then he stopped
[06:17:41] <aria> Oh this might be the Skullgirls people...
[06:18:11] <aria> Cause that's like.. a female with large breasts and snakey things..
[06:18:17] <aria> Yes. It is.
[06:23:39] <aria> The Old Reader is terrible
[06:23:52] <aria> Google, why do you do this to us?
[06:24:17] <aria> Also, GauntletWizard, you really need to put a notice on "Google"
[06:24:32] <aria> We know no one else at the company does anything
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[06:35:54] <aria> ...
[06:36:03] <aria> Someone actually made a white house petition for google reader
[06:36:22] <aria> It's been deleted.
[07:03:03] <Cybylt> Neito's name should be Nito
[07:05:26] <aria> Yes
[07:05:27] <Cybylt> I'm not surprised, there's a whitehouse petition for damn near anything
[07:06:31] <aria> "Nintendo and Hatena: Release Flipnote Studio on Nintendo 3DS!"
[07:06:36] <aria> "Hammerpoint Interactive: Full refund of retail price of WarZ for everyone"
[07:06:41] <aria> "Treyarch: Add an option for using Treyarch's servers in custom games"
[07:07:12] <aria> "Against Cubes: Stop Maplestory from being Pay2Win"
[07:07:34] <Cybylt> are these like dream announcements?
[07:07:44] <aria> White house petitions
[07:07:51] <aria> I didn't even hand pick them
[07:08:06] <aria> I copy/pasted the first video game related one, which is #3
[07:08:12] <Cybylt> ohh
[07:08:14] <aria> then the next 4 are all video game related
[07:08:32] <aria> Oh sorry
[07:08:38] <aria> "Wargaming.net / World of Tanks: Lower the cost for every vehicle to balance the money system."
[07:08:40] <aria> Is also about games
[07:31:36] <aria> Right, good night
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[12:48:49] <Bronzdragon> hai
[12:49:16] <Apsup> Yo.
[12:49:40] <Bronzdragon> How is today?
[12:50:03] <Apsup> It's a day.
[12:51:02] <Bronzdragon> I can agree with that!
[12:54:55] <Apsup> Trying netvibes as a possible alternative for Google reader.
[12:55:18] <Apsup> This looks decent, waiting to find out what's the chatch.
[12:56:44] <Bronzdragon> Hmm...
[12:57:04] <Bronzdragon> I think my stragety of "Wait for everyone else to settle in, and join 'em" is still a winning one though.
[12:59:07] <Apsup> Probably.
[13:00:41] <Bronzdragon> Keep doing good work, sir.
[13:20:34] <Apsup> Just saw a picture of the new pope. He seems a lot less evil than the last one. I think those cartoonlishly big ears help with that.
[13:21:50] <Bronzdragon> Well, that's good
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[15:39:06] <Bronzdragon> Hai yoshokatana.
[15:39:53] <yoshokatana> hola
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[18:06:33] <GauntletWizard> aria: No, I really don't
[18:07:22] <GauntletWizard> While I can theoretically change any of google, there's a finite amount of change I can effect, and I'm already hitting my limit with the things I want to do
[18:12:09] <aria> Are you replying to me accusing you of being all of Google?
[18:12:16] <aria> Since we both know that's true.
[18:12:21] <GauntletWizard> aria | Also, GauntletWizard, you really need to put a notice on "Google"
[18:12:47] <aria> =P
[18:13:23] <aria> Eh, I think cleaning the house is too much effort, so I don't blame you
[18:13:59] <aria> If you wanna hire me to be the Reader guy, I'm more than willing
[18:19:08] <aria> God damnit. I started making sassuages, but don't have rolls to eat them in
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[20:14:23] <Bronzdragon> Hey Cybylt
[20:29:50] <Cybylt> hello
[20:30:09] <Bronzdragon> How goes it?
[20:30:28] <Bronzdragon> If you had to name a military squad, what animal would you name it after?
[20:36:31] <Cybylt> Because of videogames I want to say either Foxes, Hounds, Ravens or some mix of the first two
[20:36:47] <Cybylt> Calamity Raven was a pretty cool one from the Valkyria series
[20:36:49] <Bronzdragon> But... we need one for OUR vidja-game
[20:36:55] <Cybylt> ohhh
[20:36:56] <Cybylt> uhhh
[20:36:59] <Cybylt> hmmm
[20:37:15] <Cybylt> Are Golden Eagles taken?
[20:37:21] <Cybylt> Those things will fuck you up
[20:37:22] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[20:37:33] <Cybylt> they dropkick goats off of mountains and fight bears
[20:37:34] <Cybylt> and win
[20:37:52] <Bronzdragon> Oh my, that's pretty...
[20:37:55] <Bronzdragon> good?
[20:38:26] <Cybylt> they get on their shoulders and slash and peck are the base of their skull until they kill it
[20:38:47] <Bronzdragon> They do not sound like fun =(
[20:38:59] <GauntletWizard> Ostriches
[20:39:08] <GauntletWizard> Ostritches are best animal for military squad
[20:39:25] <Bronzdragon> Aria said he agreed
[20:40:16] <Cybylt> Ostrich sounds good
[20:40:30] <Cybylt> birds in general are malicious bastards
[20:41:59] <Bronzdragon> Do you guys have a more "stealthy" animal?
[20:42:09] <Bronzdragon> Thinking about an infiltrator type person
[20:42:10] <Cybylt> Ferrets
[20:43:43] <aria> http://images1.fanpop.com
[20:43:59] <Bronzdragon> Aria's not feeling the ferret
[20:44:01] <Bronzdragon> I am though.
[20:44:13] <Bronzdragon> Explain why aria should accep the ferret inside of him
[20:44:16] <Bronzdragon> Let it in, so to speak.
[20:51:42] <Cybylt> Because they're stealthy and iirc related to mongoose which are predators of cobras
[20:52:15] <Cybylt> I'd say just use those but I think people would only know it for the atv in Halo
[20:52:47] <Cybylt> Plus ferrets are pretty clever, they can be taught to run wiring through walls
[20:53:18] <aria> I should mention I never objected to Ferret and even wrote it down.
[20:54:16] <Cybylt> woo!
[20:54:44] <Cybylt> I've always wanted one as a pet too, then I learned that they're one of the few animals that can catch sicknesses from humans
[20:55:02] <Cybylt> and I do not have the income to get a pet cold and flu vaccinations
[20:55:20] <Bronzdragon> =(
[21:02:01] <Cybylt> Finished Mass Effect 1 in my trilogy run
[21:02:12] <Bronzdragon> Good, now it'll get better and worse
[21:02:41] <aria> On PC or Xbaws?
[21:04:38] <Cybylt> xbox
[21:05:00] <Cybylt> figured I may as well do xbox since that's where all my dlc stuff is too
[21:05:14] <Cybylt> originally I really didn't like 2 but the more I play it the more I like it
[21:05:32] <Cybylt> it's somewhat smaller scale threat and plot and much more character driven
[21:05:50] <Cybylt> though all combat and customization is a huge backstep
[21:05:51] <Apsup> Second one is my prefered Mass Effect.
[21:05:59] <Apsup> Only one I've played through twice.
[21:06:03] <Cybylt> I like 1 the most still
[21:06:09] <Cybylt> played that through 7 times now
[21:06:16] <Cybylt> I've played 2 three times through
[21:06:20] <Cybylt> and 3 once
[21:06:24] <Cybylt> wait, twice
[21:06:35] <Cybylt> once pre-extended cut, once post
[21:06:42] <Apsup> I don't care first ones combat nor the planetary driving stuff.
[21:07:08] <aria> ...7 times through ME1?
[21:07:08] <Cybylt> if they make the planets more diverse the driving would be perfect
[21:07:17] <aria> God damn.
[21:07:23] <Cybylt> but for now I love it for the space or planets you can see in the distance
[21:07:34] <Bronzdragon> Hey Apsup!
[21:07:37] <aria> I also really like two. I thought the only place it was worse than 1 was in that you can't change your outfit
[21:07:39] <aria> and your team outfits
[21:07:42] <Apsup> The main content of first one is great, but the side stuff like planetary driving and side missions that repeat three different maps are kinda shit.
[21:07:43] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:07:50] <aria> then again, I liked being able to choose colour and such
[21:07:51] <aria> actually
[21:08:02] <aria> your own outfit was even a step up,
[21:08:07] <aria> just not your teammates'
[21:08:18] <aria> Oh and 1 had a walking animation
[21:08:19] <aria> and 2 didn't
[21:08:24] <Cybylt> It was funny that they take a few shots at the popularity of pre-fabrication buildings in 2
[21:08:29] <Cybylt> because of how many there are in 1
[21:08:36] <Cybylt> 2 has shit load screens however
[21:08:37] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:08:44] <Cybylt> they are the longest and most boring
[21:09:14] <Cybylt> people complained about the elevators but at least those had bits and pieces of world building in the radio and character conversations
[21:09:35] <Cybylt> 2 is "Oh look, anothe set of identical blueprints"
[21:09:38] <Cybylt> another*
[21:09:40] <Apsup> I don't know why but I barely got any character conversations in elevators.
[21:09:55] <Cybylt> I think part of it is in who you bring
[21:10:05] <Cybylt> I was surprised with how many conversations Wrex and Tali had
[21:10:10] <aria> did anyone bring anyone but Wrex and Garrus?
[21:10:28] <Bronzdragon> I didn't like Wrex a huge deal
[21:10:32] <Bronzdragon> So Garrus and Tali for me
[21:10:32] <Cybylt> well since I had a shotgun on my sentinel I wanted an all shotgun party
[21:10:43] <Cybylt> on my Engineer is was Liara and Garrus
[21:10:54] <Cybylt> on my Infiltrator it was Garrus and Wrex
[21:11:10] <aria> You thought the main content in 1 was better than 2, Apsup? But it was all really generic save the universe type stuff
[21:11:24] <aria> and generic long dead super advanced race
[21:11:39] <aria> and generic Borg stuff
[21:12:25] <aria> I like the areas in 1
[21:12:36] <aria> But I also liked the areas in 2..
[21:13:13] <aria> The areas in 2 were better, but 1 /felt/ like it was larger
[21:13:17] <aria> even if it wasn't really larger
[21:13:32] <aria> Not because of the empty driving planets though
[21:13:59] <Apsup> In 1 there were few large main story mission areas with any sidequests and long story missions while two had more but tighter missions in different places.
[21:14:02] <Apsup> I feel.
[21:14:11] <Cybylt> I liked 1 for kind of reinventing space opera
[21:14:22] <aria> reinventing space opera?
[21:14:25] <Cybylt> 2 felt like they were appealing to the shooter crowd too much
[21:14:36] <Cybylt> or rather making it more modern
[21:14:45] <aria> Space opera hasn't died, or changed since after ME1...
[21:15:41] <Cybylt> space opera hasn't really been a thing in games though
[21:16:28] <aria> How about Star Ocean?
[21:16:43] <Cybylt> star ocean is a cocktease
[21:16:55] <aria> Or the number of Star Wars, Gundam and Macross games?
[21:17:15] <Cybylt> they say they're scifi but five minutes in any of them and you're on a medieval world with some contrived reason as to why you can't use your tech
[21:17:55] <aria> But magic science swords!
[21:18:06] <Cybylt> Star Wars, as much as I like it, is fantasy in a scifi skin
[21:18:14] <Cybylt> Gundam and Macross are mecha games
[21:18:20] <Cybylt> not so much space opera
[21:18:46] <aria> Well I mean...
[21:19:14] <Cybylt> and most of them are entirely about the journey to jaburo and skim on the plot elements
[21:19:15] <aria> Mass Effect's plot are 90% "A wizard did it"
[21:19:37] <Cybylt> more like "a reaper did it"
[21:19:39] <Cybylt> until 3
[21:19:40] <aria> Characters with magic, space travel happens through magic
[21:19:46] <Cybylt> then its SPACE MAGICtm
[21:20:13] <Cybylt> but it still follows space opera's conventions more than just about any other game
[21:20:14] <Apsup> It's ofen repeated that ME 2 and 3 tried to fish the shooter crowd but if you kill lots of dudes in a way that looks like a third person shooter why not go all the way and make it third person shooter?
[21:20:52] <Apsup> Now if ME1 didn't have to focus on shooty scenes it had then the argument would have some power behind it, but not as it is.
[21:20:56] <aria> I feel 2 was the natural progress from 1
[21:20:57] <Cybylt> I think my biggest problem with 2 and 3, especially 2, was making the biotic powers into little homing orbs
[21:21:01] <aria> many of the systems didn't hold up
[21:21:10] <aria> they could easily copy Gears and such, so they did
[21:21:37] <Apsup> I've nenver used biotic powers.
[21:21:40] <aria> I really wish ME would let you solve conflicts by talking
[21:21:42] <Apsup> Sniping is too fun.
[21:21:47] <Cybylt> I have no problem with them upgrading the shooter combat but they did so at the expense of powers
[21:21:55] <Cybylt> ME1 let you talk Saren down
[21:22:10] <aria> I personally felt the magic was much more useful and fun in 2
[21:22:15] <aria> I played a Vanguard in both games
[21:22:16] <Cybylt> ME2... nothing comes to mind
[21:22:29] <Cybylt> Engi was fun as hell in all games
[21:22:33] <aria> in 2 I had force push and Sonic's jump dash
[21:22:34] <Cybylt> techsplosions everywhere
[21:22:53] <Cybylt> 1 just felt the best with them because they have 5 tech powers and no universal cooldown
[21:23:42] <aria> But the cool down in 2 is way quick. You can just keep using magic
[21:23:52] <Cybylt> though the Omega dlc in 3 has an awesome moment for engineers where they get a unique interrupt
[21:24:11] <Cybylt> and I think class oriented interrupts should have been a thing for more than one dlc in the final game
[21:24:40] <aria> Cybylt: I talked to Saran the first time through. You still fight him. You get a unique cutscene, he kills himself, and then you fight his corpse.
[21:25:08] <Cybylt> you always fight his corpse
[21:25:17] <Cybylt> which is fighting Sovereign, not so much Saren
[21:25:39] <Bronzdragon> I'd like to have skipped the sovereign fight, to be honest...
[21:25:49] <aria> ^
[21:25:50] <Cybylt> it was kind of a slog
[21:26:07] <Cybylt> unless you're shotgun sentinel with tali and wrex
[21:26:18] <Cybylt> then you just throw on those shield overloads and warps
[21:26:22] <aria> Also, 40% of my time in that game was spend deleting things from my inventory 1 by 1, and having to scroll all the way down the page between each delete
[21:26:27] <Cybylt> and a maxed out throw knocks him off of the walls
[21:26:32] <aria> 55% of it was spent in the Mako.
[21:26:42] <Cybylt> I like the mako...
[21:27:07] <Cybylt> inventory system did suck but "You didn't like it? Fine there aren't items anymore" is kind of an over-reaction
[21:27:10] <aria> I just shoot him and he died in like 2 shots. I have put everything into making the shotgun more powerful, so it overheats after each shot
[21:27:22] <Cybylt> explosive shells?
[21:27:28] <aria> No I agree,
[21:27:46] <aria> I think no inventory is better than what was in 1. But a decent inventory is obviously much prefered
[21:27:57] <Cybylt> and removing companion armors was a dick move
[21:27:59] <aria> Don't remember, whatever gave me the most damage
[21:28:05] <aria> Agree again
[21:28:17] <aria> There are tons of minor grapes I have about 2
[21:28:35] <Cybylt> also the armors aren't so much armors in 2 so much as they are passive buffs
[21:28:36] <Bronzdragon> *gripes
[21:28:47] <aria> But the things they improved (most importantly the framerate) make it IMO a better experience
[21:28:50] <Cybylt> because "Kinetic barriers"
[21:28:53] <Cybylt> which were in 1
[21:29:13] <Bronzdragon> They kind of handwaved all of how the gameplay worked
[21:29:21] <Cybylt> the party was more interesting in 2, certainly
[21:29:24] <Bronzdragon> Also, how the guns now use thermal clips
[21:29:33] <Cybylt> because in 1 they had to use your companions for world building
[21:29:34] <aria> Oh yeah, I didn't like that
[21:29:43] <Cybylt> that's a huge step back
[21:29:46] <aria> I mean, I get that the heat has no where to go
[21:29:53] <Cybylt> no weapon mods, limited shots
[21:30:03] <Cybylt> but a combination system would be perfect
[21:30:14] <aria> But if it's gonna overheat in 5 bullets, why even fucking do the shaving off metal thing? Just give me regular bullets
[21:30:15] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:30:17] <Cybylt> but no, apparently heat doesn't dissapate at all
[21:30:26] <Cybylt> it still does that
[21:30:38] <Cybylt> the difference is that in 2 you use ejectable heat sinks
[21:31:04] <Cybylt> but why not keep the internal cooling system and then have a handful of ejectable clips for emergency fast reload
[21:31:29] <aria> Or hell, let me touch a wall.
[21:32:01] <Bronzdragon> If you could guide the heat into a clip... shoot the clip at them!
[21:32:08] <Bronzdragon> Fuck 'em, searing hot metal IN YOUR FACE
[21:32:09] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:32:11] <aria> Oh hey
[21:32:15] <Apsup> It's not story reasons it's gameplay reasons and story is there just to explain it.
[21:32:18] <Apsup> That's why.
[21:32:25] <Apsup> The world of Mass Effect is not real.
[21:32:26] <Bronzdragon> But I liked the old system!
[21:32:28] <aria> But I liked the wait in 1
[21:32:30] <Apsup> It's all made for the game.
[21:32:34] <Cybylt> I get that
[21:33:03] <Apsup> The bullet system forces player to move foward so they can't just sit behind cover to take out enemies as they walk thought the door.
[21:33:34] <Cybylt> but going from effectively unlimited ammo with a small wait time in case you overdo it to basically limited ammunition is just retarded
[21:34:01] <Apsup> The gameplay is different and maybe they felt that if suited the more shootery combat.
[21:34:01] <Cybylt> and what was the handwave for it?
[21:34:20] <Cybylt> I still think a combined system would have been best
[21:34:22] <aria> Wait huh, that's why there is limited ammo?
[21:34:26] <aria> So you won't stay behind cover?
[21:34:30] <Apsup> For me I liked how I first snipe everything and when I run out of ammo I took out my smg and wen foward to get more resources.
[21:34:31] <Cybylt> make the heat dissapate slower to make the clips more desirable
[21:34:43] <Cybylt> you used smg?
[21:34:44] <aria> Cause honestly, that always seemed like the optimal way of playing. I never did that, because using magic was so much fun
[21:34:46] <Cybylt> wat
[21:35:05] <aria> But I never felt like I had any chance of dying while shooting out of cover
[21:35:39] <aria> I also used the SMG a lot, because the pistol ahd like 2 bullets
[21:35:45] <aria> and the shotgun was basically a punching glove
[21:35:54] <Bronzdragon> How about instead of "Oh, you ran out of bullets? Run into the open", have enemies that actually flank you?
[21:35:55] <Cybylt> by the time I had barrier and shotgun up in 1 I could run and gun
[21:36:02] <Cybylt> it was like vanguard without the warp
[21:36:26] <aria> But that's the best part =P
[21:36:54] <Cybylt> well it was 1
[21:36:58] <aria> (psst, if it was RE4/5, I'd drop every gun but the pistol so all the ammo would be pistol ammo)
[21:36:59] <Cybylt> so no warp
[21:37:14] <aria> Oh right in 1
[21:37:26] <aria> Yeah in 1 the shotgun was way OP on my character as well
[21:37:39] <aria> I don't think I ever moved strategically during a fight
[21:37:45] <Cybylt> frictionless materials meant you could shoot all day
[21:37:48] <aria> Like, behind cover or strafe
[21:37:52] <Cybylt> early game I had to
[21:37:55] <aria> I just shoot everyone before they could shoot me
[21:37:58] <Cybylt> sentinel was squishy as hell
[21:38:11] <aria> I died like twice during the tutorial actually =P Once I got out of the tutorial, I felt OP as fuck
[21:38:12] <Robobuntoo> ...
[21:38:13] <Cybylt> but then you get Barrier specialization
[21:39:02] <Cybylt> in terms of straight up gameplay mechanics I think 3 mixed the two really well
[21:39:18] <Bronzdragon> ... Man, sounds like I need to play 3
[21:39:19] <aria> I'll play 3 when it isn't 90 bucks.
[21:39:29] <Cybylt> 3 brought back weapon mods
[21:39:52] <Cybylt> and levelling weapons
[21:40:12] <aria> I don't like leveling in games anymore.
[21:40:36] <Cybylt> they also let you use any weapon but balance that with a weight system so if you have more on you your powers have a longer cooldown
[21:40:37] <aria> I've gotten to the point where 5 hours is the ideal lenght for a game in my life..
[21:40:46] <Bronzdragon> ... So, how is 2013-03-14 "Pi day"?
[21:40:57] <aria> 3.14
[21:41:15] <Bronzdragon> =O
[21:41:17] <Bronzdragon> Magic
[21:41:22] <Cybylt> PC version of ME3 also got an HD textures mod
[21:41:23] <Bronzdragon> I am dumbz
[21:41:28] <Bronzdragon> Happy pi day, guys!
[21:41:51] <Cybylt> http://cdn2.gamefront.com
[21:41:55] <Cybylt> from the people who did the one for 2
[21:42:47] <Bronzdragon> The biggest difference is that it looks less like a depth of field gone awry
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[21:43:36] <Cybylt> the detailing is much cleaner
[21:44:28] <aria> ^o) is the left one really how it looks with the heighest settings?
[21:44:49] <aria> They have a shot that's that up close, but leave the bullet hole that blury?
[21:45:43] <Cybylt> I think 2 was a straight port, unlike 1
[21:45:52] <Cybylt> so it looked like it does on xbox
[21:46:06] <aria> Hrm
[21:46:31] <aria> Well I didn't have any complains with how it looked in 2 on Xbox, so I guess it's good enough if I don't notice
[21:46:40] <aria> I do sit quite far from the TV when playing on console though
[21:48:19] <Cybylt> well if you havea pc that can run it I say why not
[21:48:39] <Cybylt> there's also ME2 and 3 mods that add new options to the face customization
[21:48:50] <Cybylt> a popular one is TIM's eyes
[21:49:41] <Cybylt> somebody needs to make one that makes hair not look scuplted or planted on the shoulders
[21:49:44] <Cybylt> like Miranda
[21:49:48] <Cybylt> her hair isn't hair
[21:49:55] <Cybylt> it's clay molded to her head
[21:52:05] <Cybylt> and I think my biggest gameplay issue with 3 was the removal of bypass minigames
[21:52:22] <Cybylt> you just hold A/X and wait for the door to open
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[21:54:11] <Bronzdragon> Hai Apsup.
[21:54:20] <Apsup> Yo
[21:55:32] <Cybylt> I find it a bit funny that cerberus would have a brand new N7 armor for Shepard at the start of 2
[21:56:05] <Bronzdragon> Culture shock, man
[21:56:51] <Cybylt> I guess so? Particularly after I took on every quest where you destroy their projects in 1
[21:58:16] <Cybylt> kind of a minor gripe 2, you can drawn and holster weapons on your own in 2 and 3
[21:58:48] <Cybylt> can't*
[21:59:52] <aria> Actualy
[21:59:56] <aria> actually*
[22:00:00] <aria> Minus does that
[22:00:10] <aria> I was super pissed
[22:00:19] <aria> because the fov changes to like 1 when you're in combat
[22:00:30] <aria> but then found out I can put your weapon away
[22:01:09] <Cybylt> huh
[22:01:22] <Cybylt> I remember that being a pretty big complaint for a lot of people
[22:02:18] <Cybylt> the other complaint I heard was that you don't get exp til the end of a mission, so no levelling til you're done
[22:06:34] <Cybylt> other than that it was mostly jokes about Miranda's oversized teeth
[22:06:38] <aria> http://www.geekalerts.com
[22:06:58] <Cybylt> nice
[22:07:07] <Cybylt> though I'm getting a bit tired of Cthulhu
[22:07:17] <Bronzdragon> ... Cthulu does not tire of you
[22:07:29] <Cybylt> but Nyarlathotep is more fun
[22:08:24] <Cybylt> he does show up in some stuff though
[22:08:35] <Cybylt> namely Shadow Run and the early Persona games
[22:09:16] <Cybylt> plus The Haunter of the Dark was really good
[22:09:17] <aria> http://24.media.tumblr.com
[22:10:43] <Cybylt> japanese wannabe gangster clothes?
[22:11:01] <Cybylt> I do like that shirt though...
[22:11:01] <aria> Nah, Japanese Super Fuckin' Cool clothes.
[22:11:01] <Robobuntoo> ...
[22:14:17] <Bronzdragon> I think Robobuntoo's response was the correct one
[22:15:36] <Cybylt> it makes me think of something you'd see on engrish
[22:16:09] <Bronzdragon> The blog that comes from is (essentially) a fasion centered english blog
[22:17:16] <aria> Engrish*
[22:17:46] <Bronzdragon> I was pronouncing engrish in an Engrish-like maner
[22:18:04] <aria> Fairt enough
[22:18:07] <Bronzdragon> That's my story, and I'm stickign with it!
[22:18:15] <Bronzdragon> I fart plenty, thank you.
[22:19:11] <aria> ...
[22:19:13] <aria> >_>
[22:19:26] <Bronzdragon> =P
[22:19:54] <Bronzdragon> If you can't handle my heat, stay off the street!
[22:20:00] <Bronzdragon> ... Okay, I will show myself out now
[22:22:33] <aria> is the new Sim City rendered locally or is it a video feed?
[22:26:24] <Cybylt> EA claims it was a feed and the game was actually running on their servers, some dev came out and said that's a load of crap and the game should be able to run without being connected
[22:27:01] <Cybylt> also because of the lack of the save feature a lot of people's cities were reset because of server problems
[22:27:02] <Bronzdragon> Maybe it doesn't stream video, but it does stream data
[22:27:11] <Bronzdragon> LIke, it preforms the actual simulation on their end?
[22:27:22] <Cybylt> not much of a simulation
[22:27:25] <Bronzdragon> (It'd be dumb, but possible)
[22:28:50] <aria> But...
[22:28:53] <Cybylt> I'm don't think I've heard something about this game that would lead me to believe any aspect of it wasn't done in a dumb way
[22:28:57] <Cybylt> I dont*
[22:29:09] <aria> People's old laptops are strong enough do that the simulations just fine!
[22:29:14] <aria> What people don't have is video cards
[22:37:00] <aria> I just now listened to a guy bash God of War Ascension for 5 minutes
[22:37:02] <aria> and end it with "Truly dissapointing. 8 out of 10"
[22:38:15] <Cybylt> what
[22:38:36] <aria> He didn't like the new God of War
[22:38:44] <Cybylt> someone really needs to tell these people that it's not a 3 point scale
[22:38:50] <aria> And then gave it a rating in the 10/100 point scale
[22:38:51] <Robobuntoo> You can't the ten 100s!
[22:38:51] <Cybylt> 10 means there's 10 possible points
[22:38:51] <Robobuntoo> You can't s ten possibles!
[22:39:24] <aria> 3 point? They only ever use 2 points.
[22:39:26] <aria> 8 and 9.
[22:41:02] <Cybylt> yeah
[22:41:24] <Cybylt> they may as well say Crappy, Kinda Good, Really Good
[22:41:35] <Cybylt> this is why CGR is the best reviewer
[22:41:43] <aria> I like how 8/10 is considered crappy.
[22:41:44] <Robobuntoo> You can't 8 ten is!
[22:41:49] <Cybylt> no number and more of a "if you liked _______ you'll enjoy this"
[22:42:01] <Cybylt> after talking about the strengths of the game
[22:42:14] <Cybylt> I think it's pretty retarded
[22:42:58] <aria> I've got nothing against a scoring system. It's possible to be informative and say which parts work and don't work in a relative manner, but still not get accross how the entire package feels
[22:43:30] <aria> You just have to define the scale first, and then score the game
[22:56:53] <Cybylt> right
[22:57:32] <Cybylt> but as it is, 1-7 absolute shit, 8-9 okay/above average, 10 (80% chance this article was bought off by the publisher, otherwise pretty damn good)
[22:57:33] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[22:58:05] <Bronzdragon> Every game is above average?
[22:58:27] <Cybylt> 9 is considered above average
[23:12:20] <Cybylt> MGR:R is getting character dlc
[23:12:42] <aria> Which characters?
[23:12:47] <Cybylt> Jetstream Sam and Blade Wolf will become playable and looks like will come with new missions
[23:13:06] <Cybylt> Blade Wolf as in the robowolf with the chainsaw tail
[23:13:08] <aria> Will there be a game of the decade edition?
[23:13:13] <Cybylt> I dunno
[23:13:15] <Cybylt> lol
[23:13:26] <Cybylt> also the PS3 just got 40 free VR missions
[23:13:52] <Cybylt> ranging from attacking waves of enemies, stationary gun shootout, and playing frogger with a mini gekko
[23:13:53] <aria> I wonder if they were gonna give Friender a chainsaw tail in vanquish
[23:15:31] <Cybylt> Jetstream Sam is the guy who looks like Vamp and has two katana
[23:15:59] <Cybylt> and wrecked Raiden in the start of the game
[23:16:48] <Cybylt> http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net
[23:17:26] <aria> I haven't played it
[23:17:45] <Cybylt> both sound really fun, but I wish they were in from the start. On the other hand it kinda makes sense, I get the feeling platinum was pushed to get the game out asap because of the ridiculously long development time due to Kojima Productions' time on it
[23:18:04] <Cybylt> and near scrapping
[23:18:55] <Cybylt> Gray Fox is also a costume for Raiden, and comes with the HF Muramasa, a blade that's longer than most others in the game and is almost always a one-hit kill on normal mooks
[23:19:21] <Cybylt> would be kinda neat if they had Null as a skin too, since they have his HF Machete in it
[23:19:38] <Cybylt> http://www.blogcdn.com
[23:19:43] <Cybylt> the other playable character addon
[23:20:03] <aria> Please don't spoil things.
[23:20:27] <Cybylt> but Blade Wolf was in the demo...
[23:20:41] <Cybylt> he's the first boss of the game
[23:21:15] <Cybylt> I think I'm gonna wait on a price drop, then buy up the dlc for it
[23:22:17] <Cybylt> as much as I want to back Platinum's awesomeness I should be saving money
[23:27:59] <Apsup> Cybylt: Don't tell bullshit to kids, they believe you. Sam has only one katana, also he has a gun sheath.
[23:28:00] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[23:28:28] <aria> http://youtu.be
[23:29:00] <Cybylt> I thought he had the smaller sword as well, the whole daisho pair or whatever it was called
[23:29:10] <Cybylt> did not know about the gun sheath
[23:29:23] <Apsup> Nope. It shoots the sword out.
[23:29:31] <Cybylt> huh
[23:30:01] <aria> Old spice has a marketing campaign that is a dog
[23:30:15] <Bronzdragon> I saw that too!
[23:30:15] <Cybylt> 5 days and then you won't hear from me for like a week
[23:30:20] <Cybylt> Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
[23:30:57] <Apsup> I've been playing Freedom Unite lately again.
[23:31:37] <Bronzdragon> ... I like freedom.
[23:31:46] <Bronzdragon> (tru fax)
[23:32:44] <Cybylt> I liked Unite, though I couldn't really go back to it after playing third gen games
[23:32:56] <Cybylt> everything felt so stiff and robotic in comparison
[23:33:25] <Apsup> I'd play the Portable 3rd if it had proper traslation.
[23:34:05] <Cybylt> have custom firmware psp?
[23:34:09] <Apsup> Half assed "Only mandatory elements are translated, no fluff for you" -translation doesn't flow with me.
[23:34:15] <Apsup> Obviously.
[23:34:48] <Cybylt> http://teammaverickone.blogspot.com has a fairly comprehensive patch
[23:35:01] <Cybylt> when I worked on it last year I was helping with fluff cleanup
[23:35:23] <Cybylt> weapon and item descriptions, npc conversations and the like
[23:35:59] <Cybylt> the main translator's english wasn't so great, english was his second language, so there were a few people cleaning it up
[23:36:49] <Cybylt> I'm not sure how much progress has been made since then though
[23:37:30] <Cybylt> Text limits are a bitch, japanese can cram in a lot more in much less characters
[23:38:14] <Apsup> I've noticed this weird thing about playing Monster Hunter, I have odd love-hate relationship with great sword. I kinda hate it, but it also is only weapon that feels good for me.
[23:38:35] <Cybylt> I get that with lances sometimes
[23:38:36] <Apsup> Also with it small bugs become the hardest enemy.
[23:38:52] <Apsup> Tried lance once, didn't like.
[23:39:00] <Cybylt> there's some weapons that just feel... right, but you don't like their play style in general
[23:39:08] <Apsup> Sword and shield could do, but it's so basic and dull.
[23:39:26] <Cybylt> I fell in love with S&S in the third gen titles
[23:39:38] <Cybylt> shield bashing stuff to out-KO the hammer guys is fun
[23:39:49] <Cybylt> 7-8 hit combos
[23:40:08] <Apsup> Never really invested time to long range stuff. Maybe I should try those out sometime too.
[23:40:18] <Cybylt> able to keep the pressure on the enemy all the time and use items without sheathing
[23:40:42] <Cybylt> Bow is a good entry point for long range but bowguns are just insane if you know how to use them
[23:40:52] <Cybylt> adrenaline gunning especially
[23:41:44] <Cybylt> if you're not familiar, adrenaline is a skill that gives an insane attack boost if you're low on health
[23:42:00] <Cybylt> so you get guys who kill endgame creatures in 4 minutes without taking a hit
[23:42:19] <Cybylt> which is pretty impressive with deviljho
[23:42:48] <Apsup> I on the other hand have trouble with the first bigger monster I face.
[23:43:30] <Cybylt> I remember MH1 and losing to kutku a lot
[23:44:01] <Cybylt> people who started on the psp series complain about casualization by moving to nintendo... but the PSP games were the easiest and most streamlined of the entire series
[23:44:30] <Cybylt> Unite basically removed anything that wasn't a big monster hunt, as well as captures
[23:44:54] <Cybylt> Portable 3rd is kind of a joke in terms of difficulty compared to others in the series
[23:44:57] <Apsup> Yea, well PSP players have to deal with horrible camera control.
[23:45:15] <Cybylt> so did PS2 players
[23:45:27] <Cybylt> on PS2 the right stick was your attack "buttons" and dpad was camera
[23:45:33] <Apsup> ....wow.
[23:46:00] <Cybylt> and monsters in MH1 hit harder than the ones in the psp titles in a big way
[23:46:04] <Apsup> I'd play the wii version, but it's the kind of game I like to play on the bed, mission or two before sleepytimes.
[23:46:10] <Cybylt> armors capped out at 25 defense per piece
[23:46:19] <Apsup> On computer I have so much more things to play.l
[23:46:23] <Cybylt> good news then, the april patch of the wiiu one adds off-tv play
[23:46:33] <Cybylt> and international servers
[23:46:38] <Cybylt> also, focus sight
[23:46:46] <Cybylt> the best thing to ever happen to the series camera control
[23:47:08] <Cybylt> you hit this button and it changes L from recentering the camera to centering on the selected boss monster
[23:47:32] <Cybylt> not a lock on, which I'm glad for, but makes cameral a non-issue
[23:47:55] <Cybylt> especially in underwater combat
[23:48:22] <Cybylt> and the funny thing is you get psp players complaining about that, saying "the claw" was actually better
[23:48:29] <Cybylt> I will never miss the claw
[23:48:29] <Apsup> Well I don't own Wii U and probably never will, so won't be getting that. I might get 3DS at somepoint in the next decade though so I'll play that version then.
[23:48:38] <Apsup> claw is horrible.
[23:48:40] <Cybylt> it is
[23:48:52] <aria> Should get a Nvidia DS
[23:49:15] <Cybylt> know of any 3DS cradle-things that give it a better contour to the back
[23:49:15] <aria> Since it does streaming of 6XX cards
[23:49:21] <Cybylt> I dislike the square shape and hard edges
[23:49:31] <Cybylt> after two or three hunts my hands start getting tingly
[23:49:35] <Bronzdragon> AUGH
[23:49:36] <Bronzdragon> WORDS
[23:49:42] <Bronzdragon> MY ONLY WEAKNESS
[23:49:45] <aria> And by should get, I mean, for 5 bucks second hand
[23:49:48] <aria> because that thing is ugly
[23:50:15] <Cybylt> http://www.marveloustechnology.com
[23:50:18] <Cybylt> this might work
[23:50:29] <Cybylt> circle pad pro is terrible and bulky
[23:50:49] <aria> But that thing isn't even a XL and doesn't have a second analouge
[23:51:23] <Cybylt> ...so?
[23:51:40] <aria> You want those things.
[23:52:03] <Cybylt> I don't want something that adds 50% extra width to the system
[23:52:09] <Cybylt> for a goddamn stick
[23:52:36] <Cybylt> especially since I have the japanese TriG and know from experience how well their touch screen camera pad works
[23:52:47] <aria> Could be a thing that goes over the system when closed
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[23:53:10] <aria> that you move and put on top of the under half when closed
[23:53:34] <aria> when open*
[23:53:49] <Cybylt> What?
[23:53:55] <aria> Right so
[23:54:01] <aria> it's a stick on a arm
[23:54:09] <aria> you move the arm away, close the system, and move it back
[23:54:18] <aria> move the arm, open, move arm back
[23:54:31] <Cybylt> sounds like it could break easy
[23:54:42] <Cybylt> also there'd need to be something to lock the arm in place when in play
[23:57:03] <Cybylt> oh shit, that grip is also a backup battery
[23:57:04] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[23:57:07] <Cybylt> I think I need this
[23:57:26] <Cybylt> MH made the 3DS' battery it's personal bitch on the JP one
[23:57:41] <Cybylt> kills it in about an hour and twenty minutes
[23:57:49] <Cybylt> which is two missions
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[23:58:01] <Cybylt> maybe three or four if you're fast
[23:58:06] <Cybylt> a bunch if you're after jaggi
[23:58:18] <Bronzdragon> ...
[23:58:20] <Bronzdragon> wait, punches?
[23:58:27] <Bronzdragon> Before someone explodes?
[23:58:32] <Cybylt> what?
[23:58:44] <Bronzdragon> ...00:58 < Cybylt> maybe three or four if you're fast
[23:58:45] <Bronzdragon> 00:58 < Cybylt> a bunch if you're after jaggi
[23:58:52] <Cybylt> B
[23:58:56] <Cybylt> not P
[23:59:06] <Bronzdragon> yes, but Jagi needs more punches
[23:59:11] <Bronzdragon> Because... y'know
[23:59:15] <Cybylt> as in the number of missions you can complete in the time it takes for MH3U to destroy a 3DS batter
[23:59:17] <Apsup> Let's see if I can apply this path and does it work.
[23:59:26] <Bronzdragon> I see =P
[23:59:38] <Cybylt> http://gematsu.com
[23:59:49] <Cybylt> though this guy will totally go hokuto shinken on your ass
[23:59:57] <Cybylt> he punches and explosions happen