#geeknights | Logs for 2013-03-10

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[01:48:35] <Linkigi> <.<
[01:48:37] <Linkigi> >.>
[01:48:39] <Linkigi> ubuntu
[01:48:40] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[01:48:50] <Bronzdragon> O.O I SAW YOU.
[01:48:59] <Linkigi> nooooo
[01:49:02] * Linkigi runs
[01:49:09] <Bronzdragon> I bet you can't say oo-boon-too ten times.
[01:49:10] <Robobuntoo> You can't too ten times!
[01:49:10] <Robobuntoo> that's my favorite OOPerating system
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[03:04:06] <aria> Anyone made spells in Skyrim?
[03:17:15] <Apsup> Like... a mod?
[03:17:20] <aria> Yeah
[03:17:37] <aria> I've made spells before, but not really--
[03:17:56] <aria> I decided I want to add some spells, because I wanna roleplay a water/ice elemental character
[03:18:00] <aria> and there aren't many spells for that
[03:18:20] <aria> But realized that adding custom scripting and animations might require hacking
[03:18:28] <aria> or at least knowing how the mod tool works
[03:18:42] <Apsup> I have no knowledge how Skyrim modding works.
[03:18:49] <aria> What I've done before was making a 2 handed spell one handed
[03:18:58] <Apsup> But in morrowind there is custom spell making build in the game.
[03:19:01] <aria> and changed the graphics and balance on a regular spell
[03:19:12] <aria> So that experience doesn't really help me
[03:19:29] <aria> I know how to make areas and import custom models/textues
[03:19:38] <aria> But that also doesn't let me do this.
[03:21:46] <Apsup> I went and played a bit of the wii monster hunter and now I'm putting Freedom Unite back to my PSP. It's the return of the claw.
[03:22:12] <aria> Isn't Tri G on PSP?
[03:23:25] <Apsup> nippon only
[03:23:33] <aria> But.. I assume you pirate
[03:23:34] <aria> because PSP
[03:24:17] <Apsup> ...yes and now that I look at it there seems to be english patch. The language barrier was the main thing holding me back.
[03:25:30] <aria> Those games are always fan translated in like a day =P
[03:28:32] <Apsup> I've been waiting for the fan traslation of Miles Edgeworth investigations 2 for a long while now. I'm not too trusting on game traslations happening in reasonable time frame.
[03:32:15] <Apsup> Also looking at comments it seems that this Monster Hunter Portable 3 is actually not fully translated. Apparently conversations are still in japanese, which is sad, because I like to have context to my grind.
[03:33:54] <aria> Cheat?
[03:34:07] <aria> I have 4 spells I wanna make now..
[03:38:03] <Apsup> Cheat? What you mean cheat.
[03:38:10] <Apsup> Cheat where, why.
[03:38:19] <aria> so you don't have to grind
[03:38:21] <aria> in MH3G
[03:39:13] <Apsup> But the whole game is about the circle of grind. You grind loot so you can get better gear so you can kill bigger monsters so you can get better loot to get better gear to kill bigger monsters.
[03:40:26] <aria> A modifier might make not understanding dialouge more bareable
[03:44:12] <aria> So I'm making a list of mods to get
[03:44:26] <aria> 62 so far, without having even visted the nexus
[03:45:30] <aria> Planning on having a lot mod-quests and NPCs, and adding everything without testing them or seeking them out
[03:45:44] <aria> hopefully being able to discover them without realizing they aren't vanilla content at some point
[03:45:55] <aria> Unless they're too good for vanilla Skyrim
[03:46:40] <Apsup> ...just why.
[03:46:54] <Apsup> If you don't want to play Syrim don't.
[03:47:03] <aria> Hm? I do
[03:47:05] <aria> I like Skyrim
[03:47:17] <athenian200> Syrim?
[03:47:18] <aria> It just has a lot of very very boring content
[03:47:19] <athenian200> What's that?
[03:47:32] <aria> Also is not a good game
[03:47:43] <aria> But with mods, it can be really fun
[03:47:45] <athenian200> It has a big modding community, though.
[03:47:51] <Apsup> Ok, I'll go to bed to Hunt some Monsters. Bye.
[03:47:53] <athenian200> I think that's why people get into it.
[03:47:56] <aria> last time I tried playing, I only added mods as I thought of them
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[03:48:04] <aria> searching to see if it existed, if not, making my own
[03:48:19] <aria> This time I'm planning on getting everything that's worth having
[03:48:32] <aria> and then experiencing the entire thing as if Skyrim was a competently made game from the start
[03:48:39] <athenian200> I only own Skyrim in order to have my friends send me Xbox save files so I can hack them on PC.
[03:48:44] <athenian200> And send the back.
[03:48:49] <athenian200> To fix game-breaking glitches.
[03:48:53] <aria> ... =P
[03:49:01] <athenian200> Because they have no console.
[03:49:03] <athenian200> xD
[03:49:13] <aria> I'll just avoid vanilla content. Mods are usually tested
[03:49:32] <athenian200> Kind of ironic that the mods are better made than the actual game.
[03:50:45] <aria> I honestly don't think the game was ever tested.
[03:50:55] <aria> Like, I think all the content was tested while being made
[03:51:11] <athenian200> How can you just slap a game together without testing, and ship it out charging money?
[03:51:14] <aria> But I don't think they ever actually tried making a character and playing through the story
[03:52:07] <aria> Well, they'd make a dungeon, then run through with increased walk speed, "killall" right off the bat and with the disable command hotkeyed
[03:52:16] <aria> And test specific encounters as they made them
[03:52:38] <aria> So they assumed they had a pretty good grasp of the entire thing, having experienced all the parts in depth
[03:52:58] <aria> I also don't think they have any coders..
[03:53:56] <athenian200> Coders?
[03:54:07] <athenian200> How did they make a game without coders?
[03:54:18] <aria> Bunch of artists
[03:54:26] <aria> they've had the same engine and tools since Morrowind
[03:54:46] <aria> "Surely they know how to use them by now!"
[03:59:59] <athenian200> Yeah, I was thinking.
[04:02:28] <athenian200> It seems like even without coders, they should be able to make Morrowind's engine work.
[04:02:38] <athenian200> Since they have experience with it.
[04:10:54] <aria> 72 and counting
[04:11:08] <aria> Also these are not mods I added last time I tried playing Skyrim about half a year ago
[04:11:57] <aria> (And 4 mods I need to make myself)
[04:54:29] <aria> Why don't more mods work their stuff into pool of stuff NPCs can randomly be equipped with?
[06:11:24] <aria> 124 mods in the list so far
[06:11:42] <aria> It's probably gonna take an entire day to install all of these
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[07:52:27] <aria> Did you sleep?
[07:52:28] <aria> Huh
[07:52:32] <aria> Morning
[07:52:40] <aria> Maybe I should sleep too
[07:52:42] <Apsup> Couple of hours. You?
[07:52:55] <aria> Looking at Skyrim mods all nights..
[07:53:21] <Apsup> ...I guess there is worse reasons to stay up all night, I just can't think any.
[07:53:44] <aria> ...
[07:53:45] <aria> =P
[07:54:41] <aria> I currently have 163 mods in my list of things to install
[07:55:00] <aria> Not quite done yet.
[07:55:35] <Apsup> How many of those are mods for naked people?
[07:55:47] <aria> None
[07:56:21] <aria> I kinda wanted better skin, but it wasn't worth making everyone super clean and perfect
[07:57:56] <aria> The guy I was watching at first had 90% bikinis
[07:58:15] <aria> but I found a different YouTube channel that is more atuned with my tastes
[07:58:23] <aria> and feature better narration and editing to boot
[08:01:08] <aria> It should be noted that all the 165 mods in the list currently are lore friendly and balanced to the vanilla game
[08:01:24] <aria> Though I'd really like a mod that just disables leveling and stats all together
[08:01:58] <aria> So it just uses some sort of algorythm to bring everything super close to the median, and all types of gear are common at all levels
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[08:02:45] <aria> Hi
[08:02:51] <Cybylt> staying up past dawn again?
[08:03:05] <Cybylt> and hello
[08:03:07] <aria> 9am here.
[08:03:14] <Apsup> From dusk till dawn.
[08:03:14] <aria> I was tired 9 hours ago
[08:03:38] <Cybylt> and helllo to you too Apsup
[08:03:50] <aria> Cybylt: Have you played Skyrim?
[08:03:57] <Cybylt> I have
[08:04:09] <Cybylt> both on console and modded to just about beyond recognition on pc
[08:04:09] <aria> have you used the creation kit or installed community mods?
[08:04:13] <Apsup> Sleep is just substitute for caffeine. And morning.
[08:04:29] <Cybylt> I did the community mods
[08:04:34] <aria> Wanna help me with making some mods in a bit?
[08:04:45] <Cybylt> If I can, sure why not
[08:04:48] <aria> Also, do you know of one that removes stats and levling?
[08:05:15] <Cybylt> Don't think so, the only stat system change mods I've seen made them more in-depth and granular
[08:05:23] <Cybylt> you know, like a real rpg
[08:05:53] <aria> =/
[08:06:01] <aria> I want it to be challenging throughout
[08:06:28] <Cybylt> then I would suggest finding one that removes level scaling in favor of fixed
[08:06:29] <aria> Rather than never or "I guess technically it's harder now, since enemies have twice their normal health!"
[08:06:51] <Cybylt> though it should also have fixed loot to compensate, probably
[08:07:15] <Cybylt> random loots and level scaling enemies just feel lazy :/
[08:07:46] <aria> I'd prefer just always having access to all the loot (as in, enemies randomly will use late game stuff, and early game stuff after many hours of play), but it'll all be scaled super close to the median stats
[08:08:03] <aria> Also I want everyone to die in a few hits, and to disable healing
[08:08:08] <aria> Well, I can just choose not to heal
[08:08:13] <aria> But I wanna die fast anyway.
[08:08:25] <Cybylt> ohhh, so you want a "realism" setup
[08:08:31] <aria> Yes.
[08:08:42] <Cybylt> I think there's some combat mods that accomodate that
[08:08:52] <aria> From should make a thing to import Skyrim maps and mods into the Dark Souls engine =P
[08:08:58] <Cybylt> Yes
[08:09:09] <Cybylt> the closest there is to that is Hard Mode Dragon's Dogma
[08:09:13] <aria> Yeah, but do they ignore equipment stats fully or very close to fully? Cause I want that
[08:10:37] <Cybylt> one of them was working on altering the hitboxes so bare skin takes full damage, covered with cloth takes full, leather gets a minor damage reduction, metal more than that and shields actually act as a tiny wall of whatever material but drains stamina to block
[08:11:09] <aria> You don't have nearly enough control of where you're hitting for that though
[08:11:16] <Cybylt> not really
[08:11:33] <Cybylt> it'd only work if you had the slicing control of MGR or Skyward Sword
[08:12:37] <Cybylt> There was one game I really liked with it's hit boxes on that stuff, the weapon swings were pretty basic left, right, overhead and upswing, but where you hit mattered and the type of damage done mattered so much more
[08:13:04] <Cybylt> like axes and hammers deal full damage to a blocking enemy if the head makes contact with the body before the shaft contacts the shield
[08:13:52] <aria> Which game was this?
[08:14:05] <Cybylt> faceplates could be up or down and headshots deal full damage if the plate is up but your field of vision is blacked out if it's down
[08:14:17] <Cybylt> I don't remember the name
[08:15:40] <Cybylt> and you could press a button to hit which side of the head to hit with
[08:15:48] <Cybylt> usually a piercing head is on the back side
[08:16:35] <Cybylt> I think it was War of the Roses
[08:20:03] <aria> ...
[08:20:10] <aria> Well that's another mod I need to make
[08:22:08] <Cybylt> the head flip?
[08:22:27] <Cybylt> it's such a little thing but so nice
[08:22:46] <aria> Nah, I just came up with something unrelated to this conversation
[08:23:20] <aria> I just mentioned it because it's the fifth mod I decided to do tonight that I don't know how to achive
[08:24:57] <Cybylt> well alright then
[08:25:51] <aria> I wonder if someone has made Morrowind engine work with Ocolus Rift yet or not
[08:25:51] <Cybylt> Goddamn these G skills are ridiculous
[08:26:02] <aria> G skills?
[08:26:06] <Cybylt> Challenger +2, apparently only on the Bachudios X set
[08:26:29] <Cybylt> whenever a monster is enraged you gain Attack Up L+ and +20% affinity
[08:28:53] <Cybylt> Water God - CurrentResister Hi, Oympic Swimmer, Unlimited Oxygen
[08:29:22] <Cybylt> you swim faster, ignore the pushback from the underwater attacks and the last is self explanitory
[08:30:41] <Cybylt> Edge Master - Sharpness+1, Attack Up L
[08:35:04] <aria> http://youtu.be
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[08:36:22] <Cybylt> Nice
[08:36:57] <aria> Now I just need one that balances every piece of gear
[08:38:22] <Cybylt> I think this makes hammers crap since it's almost entirely downward strikes
[08:38:40] <Cybylt> and a good amount of humanoid enemies have helmets
[08:38:53] <aria> Head hits do extra damage though
[08:39:10] <aria> I assume armor helps less against blunt weapons
[08:39:29] <Cybylt> but the helmet damage reduction counters that, and it didn't seem to, unless the strikes I saw were blocked
[08:39:37] <Cybylt> https://images.4chan.org
[08:39:40] <Cybylt> Qurupeco X
[08:39:51] <Cybylt> too fabulous for everyone
[08:40:02] <aria> No, that looks about right for MH
[08:40:36] <Cybylt> still too fabulous for everyone
[08:40:42] <aria> =P
[08:41:03] <Cybylt> https://images.4chan.org
[08:41:07] <Cybylt> Ceadeus Z
[08:41:22] <aria> That image is terrible...
[08:41:39] <Cybylt> it is
[08:41:58] <Cybylt> I think someone took a phone photo of their 3DS, I'll find a better one
[08:41:59] <Cybylt> til then
[08:42:03] <Cybylt> https://images.4chan.org
[08:42:13] <Cybylt> Diablos X
[08:43:19] <Cybylt> http://www.mh3-ultimate.com
[08:43:22] <Cybylt> found a gallery
[08:43:40] <Cybylt> wait, that's low rank
[08:43:52] <Cybylt> http://www.mh3-ultimate.com
[08:43:55] <Cybylt> G armor gallery
[08:44:26] <aria> I like the Rhenoplos stuff
[08:44:42] <Cybylt> I dont like how all the bear-creature armors look the same for gunner and melee
[08:45:10] <aria> Some of these look pretty badass
[08:45:17] <Cybylt> I like their general design, but still wish they did that
[08:45:58] <Cybylt> Huh, I didn't know black diablos was back
[08:46:33] <Cybylt> I love the Barioth X melee male armor
[08:46:38] <Apsup> I like that Wroggi X hat.
[08:46:51] <Apsup> I want to have it with everything.
[08:46:59] <Cybylt> http://image.wetpaint.com
[08:47:29] <Cybylt> http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net
[08:47:34] <Cybylt> I feel there's a resemblance here
[08:48:31] <aria> I like the crotchplate
[08:48:37] <Cybylt> and I'm loving the azure los z set
[08:49:03] <Cybylt> I also really like white lagiacrus armor
[08:51:09] <Cybylt> it takes courage to wear a cod piece into battle
[08:51:15] <Cybylt> also forethought as to protection
[08:52:07] <Apsup> It takes courage to go to battle without codpiece.
[08:52:17] <Apsup> Seriously, balls be weak.
[08:53:39] <Cybylt> fair enough
[08:53:42] <Cybylt> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
[08:53:48] <Cybylt> a codpiece like that does take courage though
[08:54:28] <Cybylt> just makes me think of Metalocalypse
[08:55:42] <aria> In Skyrim, do finishing animations happen when NPCs kill people too, but without the slow motion, or is it only for the player?
[08:56:32] <Cybylt> I've only witnessed it being used by me or people killing me
[08:57:32] <aria> Alright, not gonna bother with Dance of Death then
[08:58:15] <Cybylt> I think that one's worth it just for the new animations
[08:58:33] <Cybylt> also it lets you turn them off entirely if you want
[08:58:38] <aria> But all the animations are lame and break character
[08:58:42] <aria> Oh?
[08:58:44] <aria> Alright then
[08:59:04] <aria> At 174 currently
[08:59:29] <aria> Still need general purpose new textures and meshes
[08:59:43] <Apsup> Mad you are.
[09:00:02] <Cybylt> it lets you change the chance of it happening, or set it so it's only used for the last guy in a mob as a kind of finale to a long-ish fight
[09:00:19] <Cybylt> or visual shorthand to let you know you're done if you cut them down fast enough
[09:04:08] <Cybylt> I'm off to bed
[09:04:12] <aria> Wait huh?
[09:04:13] <aria> But..
[09:04:24] <aria> It shouldn't be 10am for you.
[09:04:33] <Cybylt> it's 1am, and I have to babysit cousins tomorrow
[09:04:49] <aria> I see
[09:04:54] <aria> Very well
[09:04:57] <Cybylt> plus I like to keep my sleep schedule normal-ish for the volunteer work
[09:05:21] <Cybylt> good luck with your mods
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[09:12:19] <aria> Ok Ill have one naked lady mod I guess
[09:12:20] <aria> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com
[09:21:38] <Apsup> Truly is Skyrim the game for those who want a dollhouse to play with.
[09:22:45] <aria> To be fair
[09:23:00] <aria> that one mod I want for the face that makes people look older and more realistic
[09:23:30] <aria> however, it has a neck seam unless you use the swim model body with giant tits.
[09:29:03] <aria> Skyrim modders..
[09:29:13] <aria> there are people who want the high res skin without the porn..
[09:29:27] <aria> just make a version where the penis doesn't reach his knees, that's all I ask for..
[09:31:28] <Apsup> The better bodies mod for Morrowind has three options. Permanent underwear, full nudity, "version for teenage boys" where only men had permanent underwear and women had no public hair.
[09:32:41] <aria> What is pubic hair? I know only perfectly shav-- no signs of hair*
[09:33:28] <aria> This is the least horrible male one I could find..
[09:33:29] <aria> http://skyrim.nexusmods.com
[09:33:33] <aria> But it doesn't ahve body hair
[09:57:56] <Apsup> I'll leave to go and play some role playing games. Go to sleep aria and bye.
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[16:10:49] <Bronzdragon> Hai Apsup.
[16:11:39] <Apsup> yo
[16:12:46] <Bronzdragon> Wuzzup?
[16:12:51] <Apsup> An yearly gaming con-like event seems to have some effort put behind it this year. Couple of previous years have been quite lacking, but this year it seems stronger.
[16:13:01] <Apsup> So looking at it's website.
[16:13:12] <Apsup> They have cosplay competition.
[16:13:31] <Apsup> If I had money, time and willingness to put effort I so would love to do my dream cosplay.
[16:14:40] <Bronzdragon> "If I had the means and movitivation to do cosplay, I would do cosplay".
[16:16:33] <Apsup> Yes. I've always wanted to see someone do TF2 Spy right. Have Blue Spy costume and over it wear red Pyro costume.
[16:17:03] <Bronzdragon> You woudln't do paper masks?
[16:18:28] <Apsup> Not good enough. I want a pyro to walk up to an stage and then do french accent pull of the gasmask and the suit and BAM It's a spy.
[16:18:49] <Bronzdragon> ...
[16:19:23] <Bronzdragon> What if... you had a red spy costume, wearing a paper mask... but then you took of the red jacket... BAM, blue jacket.
[16:20:43] <Apsup> Could work. But the thing about Pyro is that it would probably be easy to have suit underneath it without it looking suspicious.
[16:26:27] <Bronzdragon> Maybe you turn the jacket inside-out
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[16:27:21] <Bronzdragon> 'sup snake
[16:48:17] <Apsup> Firealarm riging right outside of my door. Damn that's horrible sound.
[16:48:21] <Apsup> And now it's stopped.
[16:48:36] <Apsup> Bitching about things in irc once again solved the problem.
[16:49:04] <Bronzdragon> yup
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[18:20:41] <yoshokatana> oh noes
[18:20:47] <yoshokatana> so, I didn't really sleep last night
[18:21:23] <yoshokatana> it's a long story, but it basically involves a lady, some drugs, a fair amount of alcohol, and a documentary on charles bukowski
[18:21:42] <yoshokatana> and now it's 2:30pm, and I'm starting to get tired
[18:22:04] <yoshokatana> but if I go to sleep now, I'll wake up at some ungodly hour and my sleep will be fucked up for the next few days
[18:22:04] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:22:21] <yoshokatana> so, what can I do to stay up until a socially-acceptable bedtime?
[18:22:50] <yoshokatana> (I seriously can't remember the last time I stayed up all night. I'm pretty sure it was a LAN party back in high school)
[18:25:50] <Bronzdragon> Well...
[18:26:03] <Bronzdragon> All you can do is just... stay up
[18:26:22] <Bronzdragon> Every time you feel like sleeping, get a walk outside. Not too long, you might get hit by a car
[18:26:27] <Bronzdragon> But 2-3 minutes should be good
[18:26:35] <yoshokatana> has EA unfucked themselves yet? I could play some sim city...
[18:26:36] <Bronzdragon> If that doesn't help, sleep and try again tomorrow
[18:26:36] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:26:45] <Bronzdragon> Get Sim City 4
[18:26:47] <Bronzdragon> It's still good
[18:26:49] <yoshokatana> also, that's a good idea. It's a beautiful day outside
[18:27:00] <yoshokatana> 8 C and sunny
[18:29:02] <yoshokatana> I actually kinda wish I had gotten some sleep, because today would be a great day to take a bike ride around brooklyn
[18:32:24] <Bronzdragon> Meanwhile, here we had a record breaking amound of rain
[18:32:40] <Bronzdragon> It has rained for all 24 hours yesterday
[18:32:58] <Bronzdragon> That is longer than our previous record of 23.5 hours.
[18:33:36] <yoshokatana> wow
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[22:03:24] <Bronzdragon> Hai Cybylt
[22:05:04] <Cybylt> Hello