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[00:19:58] <woodchuck> EA messed up with the server thing on Sim City.
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[01:47:50] <GauntletWizard> Maybe I should quit my job, so I have the time to find love
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[03:29:48] <Cybylt> http://fast1.onesite.com
[03:29:55] <Cybylt> There's JoJo in Monster Hunter
[03:29:56] <Cybylt> I love it
[03:30:05] <Cybylt> there is nothing about that I don't like
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[04:08:25] <woodchuck> hello
[04:33:40] <athenian201> Woodchuck doesn't seem to know if he's coming or going.
[04:33:42] <athenian201> Hehe.
[04:35:13] <woodchuck> I am always coming...gallons and gallons.
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[05:04:15] <athenian201> LOL.
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[08:53:15] <Linkigi> oh wow
[08:53:21] <Linkigi> I'm watching Chihayafuru
[08:53:27] <Linkigi> and Taichi's mom
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[13:17:45] <Bronzdragon> 'ello
[13:19:35] <Apsup> Holla
[13:19:53] <Bronzdragon> wuz up with Apsup?
[13:20:34] <Apsup> I'm pondering if I should brew me some afternoon coffee as I didn't drink such thing earlier.
[13:21:34] <Bronzdragon> If you feel like coffee, I see absolutely no reason to deny yourself that
[13:22:53] <MrBRAD> inject red bull directly into your veins
[13:23:10] <Apsup> Red Bull is not coffee, and that would skip totally the drinking part.
[13:23:13] <MrBRAD> carbonation is good for the heard and brain
[13:23:23] <MrBRAD> heart*
[13:33:42] <Apsup> Do I look like a man who cares about what's good for his heart and brain?
[13:48:14] <Linkigi> you -look- like five colored letters from here
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[15:24:40] <aria> Someone who understands internet users better than I
[15:24:44] <aria> please explain this to me
[15:25:13] <aria> Some person, on youtube commented the following, 2 days ago, His name is Tacalo King. "this r3minds me of sif pirates its a really fun"
[15:25:32] <aria> Now I get the lack of puctuation and captials and such
[15:25:35] <aria> That's because lady
[15:25:39] <aria> But r3minds?
[15:25:46] <Bronzdragon> The e borders on 3
[15:25:56] <Bronzdragon> It is possible it was a simple typo.
[15:32:59] <Apsup> Maybe the person forgot that 1337 went out of fashon five years before it even was a thing.
[15:33:32] <Bronzdragon> 1337 has it's uses
[15:33:53] <aria> I meant to say "lazy", not lady.
[15:34:03] <Bronzdragon> See: http://en.wikipedia.org
[15:44:25] <aria> Apsup: Can you think of any games that let you dress up your companions?
[15:44:52] <aria> I like my dudes having matching uniforms, but they take that out of every game-sequel =P
[15:47:41] <Apsup> I don't remember any games with party and dress up elements, there might be some but dun't remember. But in Last Story you can color your party's clothes however you like.
[15:49:06] <aria> In ME2, you can choose between regular outfit or stripper outfit
[15:49:19] <aria> (In ME1, they all have multiple choices and it's pretty good)
[15:49:45] <aria> Elderscroll games also let you
[15:50:37] <Bronzdragon> No you can't
[15:50:50] <Bronzdragon> In ME2 they let you choose, and then never let you take off your armor
[15:51:03] <Bronzdragon> At least you can choose wether you want helmet A or B...
[15:51:19] <aria> That's your own guy. Your team mates you can't equip
[15:51:24] <Apsup> No helmet or targerting eye sytem is the only choise.
[15:51:29] <aria> you can just choose between regular outfit or loyality black leather outfit
[15:51:42] <aria> You are correct.
[15:52:12] <Bronzdragon> I liked tarteting system from the front...
[15:52:24] <Bronzdragon> But on the back, it shows you how much it wouldn't work at all
[15:52:44] <aria> How so?
[15:52:55] <Bronzdragon> It's not really... attached to anything
[15:53:04] <aria> Glue.
[15:53:21] <aria> Or your ear
[15:53:26] <aria> Maybe magnets
[15:54:57] <Bronzdragon> It doesn't use your ear
[15:55:03] <Bronzdragon> I'd like it if it was like... google glass?
[15:55:08] <Bronzdragon> Or attached to your suit
[15:55:13] <Bronzdragon> or glue or something
[15:56:05] <aria> >_> http://www.giantbomb.com
[15:56:07] <aria> Giant bomb
[15:56:17] <aria> that is not a video game trope
[15:56:24] <Bronzdragon> They don't do tropes
[15:56:32] <aria> "Concept"
[15:56:35] <Bronzdragon> And any user with enough points can make a page if he wants.
[15:56:39] <Bronzdragon> It is a concept in games!
[15:56:46] <Bronzdragon> they ahve one for fire eqtuinqishers
[15:56:49] <Bronzdragon> (sp)
[15:57:05] <Bronzdragon> Fun fact, most edited page on Giantbomb is the hamburger page
[15:57:22] <Bronzdragon> http://www.giantbomb.com
[15:57:25] <aria> Apperantly only Metal Gear has ever had a cyborg ninja
[15:57:50] <Bronzdragon> Name another.
[15:58:19] <aria> Yoshimitsu from Tekken
[15:58:56] <aria> I can't say for sure, but Im pretty sure there are people in Halo who have laser swords and turn invisible
[15:59:12] <aria> Does Yasha count?
[16:00:08] <Apsup> But they are not referenced as cyborg ninja. I'm pretty sure that the term cyborg ninja is used at least in some of the Metal Gear games, so connecting the term to that series is reasonable.
[16:00:38] <aria> In metal Gear Solid, they do say Cyborg Ninja
[16:00:41] <aria> In 2 too I think
[16:00:43] <Bronzdragon> Well, yes, but making a seperate page in a wiki style thing when there's only one connection is not useful.
[16:00:45] <Apsup> Basically "Cyborg ninja" is distict thing from cyborg that happens to be a ninja.
[16:00:54] <Bronzdragon> Might just as well include itin the main article
[16:01:09] <aria> but the concept page did explain it as "Anyone with robot parts or a robot suit who does cool sword stuff"
[16:01:32] <aria> It listed every metal gear game
[16:01:36] <aria> but no non-metal gears
[16:01:45] <Bronzdragon> Well, link those games then!
[16:01:57] <aria> I can't edit Giant Bomb silly!
[16:02:03] <aria> You're a mod! You do it
[16:03:43] <Bronzdragon> Aw, c'mon, there's totally a bunch of characters linked
[16:03:59] <aria> There is a concept page for "Keyblade War" but not for choosing equipment for your dudes
[16:04:11] <Apsup> I question of why do you even care?
[16:04:29] <aria> Cause Im looking for a game to play
[16:04:32] <aria> Giant Bomb has lists
[16:04:39] <aria> I figured I'd find one that could do the thing I wanted
[16:04:42] <aria> also http://www.giantbomb.com
[16:04:47] <aria> There are only metal gear games
[16:05:15] <Apsup> Well play some metal gear then.
[16:05:23] <Bronzdragon> ^
[16:05:50] <aria> But Metal Gear doesn't even have companions!
[16:05:57] <aria> let alone let you pick out their armor
[16:06:12] <Bronzdragon> You do get to pick your own armour.
[16:06:37] <aria> I've already played all the metal gears though..
[16:07:06] <Bronzdragon> Even Twin Snakes?
[16:07:09] <Apsup> Do you wanna play a game or dress up? There's always sims you know.
[16:07:13] <aria> Even that one
[16:07:19] <Apsup> Snake's Revenge?
[16:07:28] <aria> Ok, no
[16:07:36] <aria> Sims doesn't let you have companions!
[16:07:57] <Bronzdragon> Yes it does, they're called "sexual partners"
[16:08:15] <aria> That's not the same, you can't go murder people with your sexual partners
[16:08:27] <Bronzdragon> ... can't you?
[16:08:48] <aria> The Sims takes place fully in a house
[16:08:53] <aria> you may go to a different house
[16:09:00] <aria> but it's still just a house
[16:09:19] <aria> Murder in The Sims is done by making a swimming pool
[16:09:21] <aria> then removing the ladder
[16:09:31] <Apsup> First it was dress up with companions, now there has to be mureder, your list of requirements grow all the time.
[16:09:36] <Apsup> Make up your mind.
[16:09:53] <Bronzdragon> How about Dragon's Dogma?
[16:10:09] <aria> Alright, dress up with companions that have the same immdiate goal as you
[16:10:17] <aria> That is a good one
[16:11:07] <aria> ..
[16:11:08] <aria> http://youtu.be
[16:11:38] <Bronzdragon> "Welcome PC GAMER'S"
[16:11:46] <Bronzdragon> .... why, apostrophe!
[16:11:47] <Bronzdragon> WHY
[16:11:53] <aria> Anyway, I guess it's for PC
[16:13:08] <aria> Guess it isn't after all.
[16:13:31] <Bronzdragon> Doesn't seem like it.
[16:13:42] <aria> Well Dark Arisen is coming
[16:13:45] <aria> maybe that is for PC
[16:13:58] <Bronzdragon> Maybe?
[16:15:44] <aria> The Dragon's Dogma website does not want me to see it
[16:17:13] <aria> Seems to be console only
[16:20:00] <aria> Ok I couldn't find anything
[16:20:07] <aria> so Ill pick out of this list instead
[16:20:07] <aria> http://www.giantbomb.com
[16:20:17] <aria> Nvm, that list is super bullshit
[16:20:18] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[16:20:31] <Bronzdragon> Is it?
[16:20:38] <aria> all of those are 99% unavoidable fights
[16:20:51] <Bronzdragon> Ah...
[16:21:00] <Bronzdragon> Like, they're all technicallities
[16:21:08] <Bronzdragon> Like, maybe you can avoid one of the bossfights...
[16:21:17] <aria> Bossfight? Hah!
[16:21:28] <aria> You can avoid like, the one guy who goes down in one hit before the boss fight
[16:25:28] <aria> I decided Im going to play Otogi
[16:25:35] <aria> Now I just need a Xbox 1
[16:40:34] <Apsup> Why wasn't Cave Story on that list?
[16:56:41] <aria> Which list?
[16:57:36] <aria> Pokemon Black has sexy pirates?
[17:02:34] <Apsup> The games where you can awoid combat with dialogue.
[17:02:36] <Apsup> List.
[17:03:59] <aria> Right
[17:04:08] <aria> Have you played White Knight Chronicles?
[17:05:03] <Apsup> Can't say I have.
[17:05:12] <aria> It looks interesting
[17:05:46] <Apsup> PS3 game, so not in my raidar.
[17:06:18] <aria> It has birds with 10 wings carrying busses
[17:06:19] <Robobuntoo> You can't with ten wings!
[17:06:47] <aria> Also a pretty large city on top of this crab/human thing
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[17:35:21] <aria> Game Center CX is pretty darn fun
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[17:40:13] <Apsup> I would watch more of it, if the epidoes weren't so damn long.
[17:53:37] <aria> Halo 4 is Xbox only, right?
[17:54:24] <aria> Apperantly it's a good spirtuel successor to Metroid Prime
[17:57:37] <Apsup> ...That's odd way of putting it.
[17:57:51] <aria> I like Metroid Prime
[17:58:02] <aria> I'd be playing Halo 4 for inspiration mostly
[18:01:15] <Apsup> But I mean like in which way is Halo 4 supposed to be like Metroid Prime. Other than powerarmored main character shooting things.
[18:02:03] <aria> Well all the graphics look like Metroid Prime
[18:02:16] <aria> Space pirates look at the same, all the power armors have the Samus helmet
[18:02:27] <aria> You get the different visors
[18:02:49] <aria> And I think it also has scanning computers to read logs
[18:03:08] <aria> Though I've only seen like, a trailer and 1 minute of footage
[18:03:24] <aria> But it did look like Metroid Prime to me too
[18:05:12] <Apsup> ...The term of spiritual successor usually comes from spirit, not from the look of the helmets.
[18:05:26] <aria> =P
[18:05:36] <aria> Well its a sci fi game where you're stuck on a deserted planet and read logs
[18:05:46] <aria> and the double jump is finnicky
[18:07:16] <aria> Apperantly it's made by the same people who did Metroid Prime?
[18:08:37] <Apsup> Where did you get that from?
[18:08:45] <aria> Neogaf comment.
[18:09:21] <aria> 1up has an article called "Celebrate Metroid Prime's 10th Anniversary with Halo 4" =P
[18:10:15] <Apsup> oO
[18:12:00] <aria> Wikipedia confirms staff moving from Retro to "343 Industries", which made Halo 4
[18:12:08] <aria> But not in large quantities
[18:13:05] <Apsup> Oh, breaking news, Vincent Baker will be a quest of honor in a Ropecon (finnish rpg con) this year.
[18:18:40] <aria> Why does this mech regen health?
[18:18:54] <aria> At least with a person you can say andrenaline
[18:19:10] <aria> Or it didn't pierce your armor
[18:19:15] <aria> you just got knocked back
[18:19:16] <aria> and it hurt
[18:19:18] <aria> but then you got over it
[18:19:46] <aria> but how does that work with the mech?
[18:23:07] <Apsup> Nanobots.
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[18:41:55] <Bronzdragon> Guess who's handsome?
[18:58:13] <Apsup> ...I would guess some young actor, but I can't remember any young actors names.
[18:58:36] <Bronzdragon> None?
[18:59:02] <Bronzdragon> The only handsome people you know, you don't even know?
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[19:46:59] <Bronzdragon> Hey Cybylt
[19:48:16] <Cybylt> Hello
[20:08:35] <Bronzdragon> WUTCHA UPTO
[20:20:07] <Cybylt> listening to sono chi no sadame, playing ps3
[20:20:11] <Cybylt> you?
[20:20:21] <aria> He's googling for sci fi things with teleports
[20:22:38] <Cybylt> Ah
[20:22:52] <Cybylt> I found out something hilariously bad about the new Mass Effect DLC
[20:23:04] <Cybylt> the badguy in it is an Evil Clone of Shepard
[20:23:08] <aria> Haven't played that
[20:23:43] <Cybylt> they should have given him/her a badguy moustache/goatee combo
[20:25:34] <Cybylt> Though because the clone is specced and geared the way you are, it makes for one of the best boss fights in the series
[20:25:34] <aria> http://static.tvtropes.org
[20:27:36] <Cybylt> wat
[20:44:38] <Apsup> Cybylt: It would depend. I don't think that ME could do a sniper boss fight well.
[20:44:52] <Cybylt> Tech powers
[20:45:17] <Apsup> So a fireball every now and then?
[20:45:55] <Cybylt> well in 3 tech powers for infiltrator would include overload, turning invisible and whatever bonus powers you took up
[20:46:02] <Cybylt> Oh yeah, they have your bonus powers too
[20:46:34] <Cybylt> It's mostly terrifying for Vanguard, because evil shep will do the charge, punch, nova combo
[20:47:32] <Bronzdragon> Who says "One of the best bossfights"?
[20:47:39] <Bronzdragon> Also, that's not exactly... hard to do.
[20:47:49] <Bronzdragon> ME boss fights are terrible.
[20:47:52] <Apsup> I don't even remeber what bonus power I had. For me it was all about sniping. Somtimes I used invisibility to make sniping more effective and rare fireball.
[20:50:28] <Cybylt> Now that you mention it, the only other good one I can think of was that asari chick from the 2 dlc, and she was a pretty standard fight, send mooks, fight type after the chase
[20:50:44] <Cybylt> the shadow broker was different at least
[20:51:02] <Cybylt> punching a shield may not make much sense, but it happened
[20:52:08] <Cybylt> and I just realized "asari chick" is a bit redundant
[20:52:16] <Cybylt> the asari spectre
[21:03:07] <Bronzdragon> hehe, redundancy
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[21:25:19] <aria> Americans, I need your help
[21:25:37] <Bronzdragon> With killing children, he means
[21:25:46] <aria> Is it taboo to show dead children in a entertainment product, or is only the act of killing children bad?
[21:26:29] <aria> Here in Europe, we don't really see the murder of a child as different than the murder of an adult.
[21:28:38] <Apsup> We don't?
[21:30:17] <Bronzdragon> In videogames, it's unacceptable to kill children, right?
[21:30:39] <Bronzdragon> Like Skyrim or fallout, you can't kill any of the children, or even hurt them.
[21:34:53] <Bronzdragon> So it seems like it's a big industry/Hollywood exclusive taboo
[21:35:07] <Bronzdragon> It doesn't sell well, basically
[21:36:58] <Apsup> I'd think that hurting/killing children is universally bigger deal than killing adults.
[21:37:30] <Bronzdragon> So?
[21:37:44] <Apsup> So it's not Hollywood exclusive taboo
[21:37:51] <Apsup> It's everywhere.
[21:39:05] <Bronzdragon> Well, yes, but there's nothing inherent to that that makes it a (semi-)hard rule
[21:39:19] <aria> Eh you might be right
[21:39:27] <aria> But I think the Americans are more sensitive towards it
[21:39:28] <aria> regardless
[21:39:32] <aria> it child corpses ok?
[21:40:45] <Apsup> Nah, you just see it because most of entertaiment we consume comes from america so you assosiate something common in everywhere to be mostly american thing.
[21:41:15] <Bronzdragon> I have sources that tie it directly to holywood
[21:41:25] <aria> Well Ive seen anime with kids being killed on screen
[21:41:28] <Bronzdragon> As opposed to "movie industries" or culture in general
[21:41:39] <Bronzdragon> It's a Hollywood thing.
[21:41:41] <Apsup> I've seem movies where killing kids is big part of the plot.
[21:41:56] <aria> Then it's a big part of the plot
[21:42:10] <Bronzdragon> The few exceptions I've sen is either "Look how sad this is" or "The kid is the main villain"
[21:42:15] <Bronzdragon> (a la chucky)
[21:42:15] <aria> Armored Core like 2 started with kids playing about for 2 minutes
[21:42:22] <aria> then they get crushed by a mech-bullet-shell
[21:42:25] <aria> and it goes to mech action
[21:42:38] <aria> Gundam also does similar things
[21:43:38] <aria> Both first episodes of Geass at the end had a kid crying and the enemy guy who surrounded Lelouch shooting them to silence them
[21:44:27] <aria> Didn't Eva have Shinji's school have a robot fall on top of it?
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[22:24:19] <Cybylt> Hello again Bronzdragon
[22:29:03] <GauntletWizard> Somebody tell me if this is terrible or awesome:
[22:29:05] <GauntletWizard> http://www.polygon.com
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[22:34:59] <Cybylt> That's some really bad implications on nintendo's part with the whole Starfox thing
[22:35:19] <Cybylt> I didn't even know about that, but explains a lot about that game
[22:36:48] <Cybylt> It's not bad, and rather informative if you don't trawl tvtropes regularly
[22:49:11] <Cybylt> It sounds like, and almost definitely is, a matter of convenience and later just anther part of japan's usual business practice of change things as little as possible.
[22:53:15] <Cybylt> I'm surprised Dead Space 3 hasn't been mentioned yet because of the reduction of Ellie's role to shallow love interest when originally she was a badass survivor of 2 and planned on being the co-op partner
[22:53:40] <Cybylt> but someone in EA was like "NO! WE NEED SPESS MEHREENS"
[22:54:37] <woodchuck> My problem with deadspace3 is it is unrealistic.
[22:55:35] <Cybylt> What do you mean by unrealistic?
[22:56:08] <woodchuck> I don't understand where all the oxygen comes from.
[22:56:21] <Cybylt> on the ship?
[22:56:47] <woodchuck> The ships have been dorment for 300years; shoulden't it have escaped by now?
[22:56:55] <Cybylt> Not a damn clue, the first one explained it pretty well, you had a whole deck dedicated to plants and stuff to create it
[22:57:03] <Cybylt> I can't see that being the case for the ships in 3
[22:57:25] <Cybylt> general lack of care aside, they have been blasted
[22:57:43] <Cybylt> there was another thing that bugged me and that was why do they need winterized gear?
[22:57:46] <Cybylt> Space is colder
[22:58:13] <GauntletWizard> space isn't cold
[22:58:27] <GauntletWizard> space has no concept of temperature
[22:58:44] <GauntletWizard> temperature is something that is applied to matter; Space is the absence of matter.
[22:59:05] <woodchuck> I do like being an esper though.
[22:59:27] <GauntletWizard> You don't have to make your spacesuit hold in heat, because there is nowhere for it to go - spacesuits require active cooling systems, actually.
[23:01:05] <woodchuck> I like how the ships are broken; except for the stuff you want.
[23:02:30] <GauntletWizard> I have a hard time believing that nintendo is a big bad because rare fucked up a game
[23:02:31] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[23:02:32] <Cybylt> I did not know that
[23:03:19] <GauntletWizard> also, I have a hard time believing anything that anita sarkensian says, but that makes me a shitlord.
[23:03:19] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[23:03:30] <Cybylt> I don't think it was meant to show nintendo as a big bad so much as it was set in the ways it began with
[23:04:55] <Cybylt> The only time I have trouble taking the issue seriously is when "THE PATRIARCHY" is brought up
[23:06:10] <Cybylt> it makes it feel like the people who are talking about the progression of gender equality feel there is a secret society all about keeping women down and doing nothing else
[23:06:12] <Apsup> Well, didn't care much about that video and don't have high exceptations for the rest of them. There was a bunch of stuff I mostly already knew and then a preaching about how distressing damsels is evil.
[23:06:33] <Cybylt> for no reason other than general misogyny
[23:06:50] <Apsup> Heck the history of that Star Fox game was one of the few things that I found interesting, and that's because I didn't know about it before.
[23:08:40] <Cybylt> I got more that distressing damsel is more stupid and backwards and a lazy plot device that do little more than pull for teenage male power fantasy, which to be fair is pretty much what video games were all about for the majority of their creation.
[23:09:34] <Apsup> Did you really need to watch the video to know that?
[23:10:05] <Cybylt> No, but that's because I know stuff about games
[23:10:13] <Cybylt> and storytelling
[23:11:03] <Apsup> Yea, that's what I mean. Anybody with half a brain who consumes media should already know the main crust of what she is talking about.
[23:11:20] <Apsup> There wasn't really anythig new or interesting there.
[23:11:56] <Cybylt> but a surprisingly high amount of people don't, and then there are people who don't have half a brain who perpetuate the points being argued against
[23:14:10] <Apsup> People without half a brain won't get any smarter video or not.
[23:15:38] <Cybylt> they won't, but the more people who are made aware of an issue the more people there will be to tell those idiots to knock their crap off
[23:17:09] <aria> there are people with half a brain who are plenty smart
[23:17:30] <aria> sure they are handicapped by only having half a brain, but it works, they can comprehend things and apply logic or critical thinking
[23:18:44] <Cybylt> Probably... definitely really stupid but... I've decided that Monster Hunter takes place in the Warhammer 40k universe. It is a death world with a surprisingly well put together society because they found bits and pieces of probably Ork tech considering how patchwork some of it seems, and the guild is actually a front for the adeptus astartes.
[23:18:58] <Apsup> I didn't mean the half a brain in a literal sense.
[23:19:49] <Cybylt> also it apparently takes place in the same universe as JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Sgt. Frog, Metal Gear and a couple other anime, because event quest items and GEAR Rex
[23:21:20] <Cybylt> and because Isla del Monstruo
[23:36:18] <GauntletWizard> I measure all times in megamicroseconds
[23:36:41] <GauntletWizard> but I've considered changing to terapicoseconds
[23:37:28] <GauntletWizard> so
[23:38:49] <Cybylt> Do it
[23:39:16] <aria> Working in VMs has to suck for you =3
[23:39:27] <aria> That was supposed to be a =P, but I'll take it
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