#geeknights | Logs for 2013-03-05

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[00:26:55] <aria> So piratebay servers in North korea now?
[00:26:58] <aria> That's cool
[00:28:28] <Bronzdragon> Web server or tracker?
[00:29:07] <aria> Dunno, maybe both
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[01:10:03] <aria> How good is Battlestar Galactica?
[01:10:05] <aria> Aww...
[01:10:07] <aria> Apsup left
[02:06:37] <GauntletWizard> Neither
[02:06:56] <GauntletWizard> just careful manipulation of traces and packet-spoofing
[02:07:04] <Bronzdragon> Hai, G-wiz
[02:07:16] <Bronzdragon> Who are you answering?
[02:07:18] <GauntletWizard> Heya, bronz
[02:07:35] <GauntletWizard> I'm answering aria's assertion that piratebay is in NK
[02:07:49] <GauntletWizard> which it is not, though it was an amusing hack
[02:07:55] <Bronzdragon> I see
[02:08:13] <GauntletWizard> there's about four theories as to how they did it, but the conclusion is pretty clear that it's not actually with servers in NK
[02:08:58] <Bronzdragon> Aww =(
[02:09:31] <aria> I didn't look to confirm it, but they had a blog post about it, which I was citing
[02:10:19] <GauntletWizard> one day I need to look up the khashmir algorithms
[02:10:52] <Bronzdragon> that sounds hard
[02:11:06] <Bronzdragon> Hey G-wiz, explain Fermat's last theorem?
[02:11:29] <aria> So how do we confirm it's a hoax without knowing their method?
[02:12:48] <Bronzdragon> Sheeewt
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[02:19:48] <Bronzdragon> Hai zap
[02:31:57] <GauntletWizard> aria: Because we can see the adjacent routers in a traceroute
[02:44:58] <Bronzdragon> Good night, Mr. GauntletWizard.
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[05:37:04] <yoshokatana> hmm
[05:37:14] <yoshokatana> go to bed? or play some of the new sim city?
[05:37:19] <yoshokatana> it just finished downloading
[05:37:32] <GauntletWizard> go to bed
[05:37:34] <GauntletWizard> because you can't
[05:37:44] <GauntletWizard> origin went down faster than a thai hooker
[05:38:04] <yoshokatana> it didn't allow me to download for about half an hour after "release"
[05:38:16] <yoshokatana> but then it downloaded in literally 5 minutes
[05:38:30] <GauntletWizard> you can basically replace "thai" with any country/city/ethnicity with a repuation of being trasy or promiscuous
[05:38:46] <GauntletWizard> but I like thai, because I have yellow fever.
[05:39:02] <yoshokatana> :p
[05:39:19] <GauntletWizard> (It's that time of night again where I play armchair psychoanalyst of myself)
[05:39:43] <yoshokatana> hah
[05:39:51] <yoshokatana> I can get away with going into the office tired
[05:39:58] <yoshokatana> they have free, unlimited coffee
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[05:55:43] <yoshokatana> SCREW IT TIME TO PLAY SIM CITY
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[06:45:27] <Linkigi> blaaaah, work
[06:45:34] <Linkigi> why did I put this project off so long
[07:32:57] <athenian200> Procrastination?
[07:33:02] <athenian200> That's my guess.
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[14:09:39] <Bronzdragon> Hey guys
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[17:03:42] <Bronzdragon> HEY
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[18:08:38] <Cybylt> http://www.escapistmagazine.com
[18:09:21] <Cybylt> Hello Bronzdragon!
[18:09:26] <Bronzdragon> Hey Cybylt!
[18:11:13] <Cybylt> How did he get Cage on the show?
[18:11:49] <Cybylt> Oh yeah, I bought, played and beat Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine
[18:12:07] <Bronzdragon> Yay?
[18:12:11] <Bronzdragon> Yay.
[18:12:16] <Cybylt> I was expecting something pretty much like any other modern shooter, and got a crash course in 40k
[18:12:39] <Cybylt> which is something I like, in the perspective of spess mehreens, which I normally don't like as much
[18:12:46] <Cybylt> usually more of a tau or necron fan
[18:13:41] <Cybylt> Though I've discovered the Black Templars are pretty sweet
[18:14:25] <Cybylt> Ultramarines are still bland and founded by a wuss who didn't personally fight against the heretics, but the Templars are awesome
[18:21:02] <aria> This is probably the most entertaining Jim Sterling video I've seen
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[18:24:32] <Bronzdragon> GOOD NEWS, everyone
[18:24:46] <Bronzdragon> News has it there's a new thief game coming
[18:25:20] <Bronzdragon> I mean, it's just a rumor
[18:25:23] <Cybylt> Heard somebody has screens already
[18:25:35] <Bronzdragon> Wait, waht's a rumor that is confirmed by the actual company?
[18:25:36] <Bronzdragon> http://eu.square-enix.com
[18:25:53] <aria> I AM HAPPY
[18:33:38] <GauntletWizard> Good morning!
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[18:44:35] <Bronzdragon> Hello GauntletWizard.
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[19:30:30] <Bronzdragon> Hey Snicker bar
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[19:58:12] <Cybylt> Metal Gear Rising, Bioshock and Monster Hunter in the same month, my poor wallet can't handle it
[19:59:42] <Bronzdragon> Explain to Aria why Bioshock is worth the money
[20:05:09] <GauntletWizard> man, I need to get on Metal Gear
[20:05:29] <GauntletWizard> I bought rising, but am still not through the HD remake collection I was trying to push through
[20:06:23] <Bronzdragon> where are you at in the HD remake?
[20:06:47] <Bronzdragon> Because regardless of what game it is, I can easily say this. "The end is the best part".
[20:10:48] <Cybylt> What do you have the HD collection on?
[20:10:59] <Cybylt> I've been looking for someone to co-op through Peace Walker
[20:11:10] <Bronzdragon> Aria and I have it for 360.
[20:11:18] <Bronzdragon> (I don't have the HD collection, just peace walker)
[20:11:30] <Cybylt> Awesome, that's what I have it on
[20:11:37] <Cybylt> but I may have to renew XBL
[20:12:42] <apreche> Bioshock is worth th emoney because it's like $5 on Steam
[20:13:56] <Cybylt> and because it's an underwater dystopic adventure
[20:14:28] <Cybylt> except Infinite, then it's a wonderful dystopic adventure AMONGST A SEA OF CLOUDS
[20:14:41] <Cybylt> with rollercoaster-like grapplehook things
[20:14:44] <Cybylt> and super powers
[20:16:49] <Bronzdragon> I'm not sure, the bee-arm is more of a turn-off than a turn-on.
[20:17:08] <Cybylt> what about the power of explosions?
[20:17:22] <Bronzdragon> ... I don't want an exploding arm either
[20:17:31] <Cybylt> your arm doesn't explode
[20:17:34] <Bronzdragon> I would say "That only seems useful once"
[20:17:42] <Bronzdragon> But then... I don't seee any time it'd be useful.
[20:17:50] <Cybylt> you snap your fingers and explosions happen in the general direction you snapped in
[20:17:56] <Cybylt> or you could have force lightning
[20:17:59] <Cybylt> or turn invisible
[20:18:06] <Bronzdragon> ... I dunno...
[20:18:06] <Cybylt> or freeze stuff
[20:18:10] <Bronzdragon> I like snapping my fingers
[20:18:32] <Bronzdragon> Really, the only one taht wouldn't fuck your live up is turning invisible...
[20:18:33] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[20:18:33] <Cybylt> they aren't exactly singular powers so much as they are packages of a power and the prerequisite things to not kill yourself with it
[20:18:54] <Bronzdragon> It comes with a rubber suit?
[20:19:32] <Cybylt> more like it makes it so you don't become a conduit for the electricity you produce
[20:21:39] <Bronzdragon> I don't see any way of doing that that wouldn't kill you in the process...
[20:21:45] <Bronzdragon> (In real life, I mean)
[20:22:17] <aria> Real Racer 3 (or some other mobile racing game) makes you wait to play unless you pay real money.
[20:22:36] <Cybylt> then that's a game that's not getting played
[20:22:44] <Bronzdragon> Penny Arcade did a comic about Real Racer 3.
[20:23:07] <Bronzdragon> See thus; http://penny-arcade.com
[20:28:05] <aria> Cybylt: Bronzdragon: I've already played Bioshock 1. And I got Infinite for free. I wouldn't have played it had I needed to pay for it, but it's free, so I'll probably install it at some point
[20:29:21] <Bronzdragon> I also have Bioshock 1 for 360...
[20:29:35] <Bronzdragon> I don't like it much, and I can't figure out why.
[20:30:05] <aria> Because it looks like Matrix Revolution?
[20:31:25] <aria> What is it with you Dutch people and mixing up life and live?!
[20:31:42] <Bronzdragon> I totally got it right!
[20:31:53] <aria> 21:17
[20:32:08] <Bronzdragon> ... =(
[20:33:42] <aria> Cybylt: We've got Peace Walker. I wouldn't mind playing 3 players
[20:33:49] <aria> GauntletWizard: Do you have it on 360 as well?
[20:33:50] <Bronzdragon> Hey Aria, what's Norwegian for "Butterfly"?
[20:34:11] <aria> Sommerfugl - summerbird
[20:34:24] <aria> Unless you mean the song
[20:34:35] <Bronzdragon> There's a song called just butterfly?
[20:34:38] <Cybylt> How far into it are you?
[20:34:42] <Bronzdragon> And that translates differently?
[20:35:18] <aria> Yes, because it's butter-fly rather than butterfly. So it doesn't translate http://youtu.be
[20:36:00] <aria> Cybylt: Almost 100%'d it. Just missing two drops, both from Monster Hunter missions
[20:36:12] <aria> Bronz is about half way..
[20:36:15] <Bronzdragon> You don't have everythign S-ranked
[20:36:28] <aria> Yes I do
[20:36:30] <aria> you don't =P
[20:36:35] <aria> Well I do in single player. Not coop
[20:36:36] <Bronzdragon> =(
[20:36:41] <Cybylt> I wasn't quite there, but close
[20:37:11] <aria> Cybylt: The storymode isn't particuallar exciting
[20:37:18] <aria> The extra ops are much more fun
[20:37:29] <Cybylt> getting the materials off of rathalos is a pain
[20:37:30] <aria> Though the last boss is pretty crazy
[20:37:50] <aria> Oh right
[20:37:56] <aria> I thought you wanted to play through it for the first time
[20:38:00] <aria> and needed co op partners
[20:38:23] <Bronzdragon> Man, Peace Walker is TOO HARD!
[20:38:25] <Cybylt> Nah, I just wanted to run co-op stuff again for fun
[20:38:31] <Bronzdragon> If only I had some bros to help me sneak better.
[20:38:34] <aria> Alright, I'd be up for that
[20:39:09] <aria> You're playing Peace Walker wrong if you're sneaking. You're supposed to just run in circles behind people until they turn around, then run past them
[20:39:32] <Cybylt> sneaking wasn't all that hard
[20:39:39] <apreche> mmmmm, pretzel goldfish
[20:39:46] <Cybylt> and even when you get caught, it's easy enough once you get the rubber bullet shotgun
[20:39:56] <Bronzdragon> Is that a goldfish that ate a prezzle, and is now prezzle shaped?
[20:40:31] <aria> Oh yeah, the running in circles waiting on people is only a thing pre rubber shotgun. Post rubbershotgun you just shoot everyone before they can report you
[20:40:52] <athenian200> I like Pepperage Farm Goldfish crackers.
[20:40:57] <athenian200> Including the pretzel ones.
[20:42:52] <Cybylt> I think I stopped playing because I'd get in those missions where you have to take out all the enemies in the area, or fight off a few waves, and was getting mad that everyone else I could get in them used lethal weapons
[20:42:59] <Cybylt> why did they want a low score?
[20:43:06] <Apsup> aria: Stop telling people to play games wrong.
[20:43:29] <aria> Apsup: I was making fun of the fact that no one in Peace Walker can see or hear
[20:43:43] <Apsup> No one in the whole Metal Gear universe can see or hear.
[20:44:01] <Apsup> Heck the cyborgs in Rising are basically deaf and blind too.
[20:44:20] <aria> Eh I dunno, in MGS2 if I ran in a circle behind someone
[20:44:22] <aria> he's turn around
[20:44:34] <aria> And they could see directly in front of them
[20:44:54] <Apsup> "Where my buddy should be patrolling there is now bloodstain and a barrel. Well nothing seems out of ordinary."
[20:45:08] <Apsup> They could see firectly in front of them, about three meters.
[20:45:37] <aria> Nah, in 2 they could see far enough. And they could also see slightly to the sides
[20:46:00] <aria> in Peace Walker, they can see about a meter in front of them, and if you're at a 20 degree angle in front of them, not at all
[20:46:47] <Bronzdragon> Listen, Apsup. Yes, people in Metal Gear suck at their job... I don't think you realize how bad it is in Peace Walker
[20:47:08] <aria> Cybylt: Rubber shotgun everyone before your teammates have time to shoot them lethally
[20:47:11] <Bronzdragon> You can stand in full sight, upright, 4 meters in front of a guy, and he won't see you. I'm not hyperbolizing.
[20:47:11] <aria> Works for me =P
[20:47:26] <Cybylt> they take assault rifles, they have range on me
[20:47:38] <aria> Infinite bandana and baloon bazooka
[20:47:43] <Apsup> Well I played Peace Walker and I played carefully so I didn't go standing in frot of dudes.
[20:48:49] <Bronzdragon> Playing peacewalker like that is also my preffered playstyle...
[20:49:04] <Bronzdragon> *prefered
[20:49:04] <aria> Cybylt: You had a problem with people killing in wave missions, but somehow got through the vehicle battles?
[20:49:31] <Cybylt> yeah?
[20:49:35] <aria> ...
[20:49:54] <Cybylt> KO the troopers and bring one rocket launcher to do enough damage for the pilot or driver to pop out
[20:49:57] <aria> What? How did you find people who were willing to stealth those?
[20:49:58] <Cybylt> then KO him
[20:50:14] <aria> THAT'S how you did it?
[20:50:17] <Cybylt> in late game people just use the rocket that captures people
[20:50:23] <aria> You don't baloon the 58 dudes?
[20:50:40] <Cybylt> I balloon most of them, better troops is always a good thing
[20:50:53] <Bronzdragon> =P
[20:50:58] <aria> ...
[20:51:01] <Cybylt> I guess it's a bit more time consuming but it works and I get tanks and helicopters
[20:51:04] <Bronzdragon> Man, Aria and I, while co-op-ing...
[20:51:09] <aria> I've already maxed out my dudes
[20:51:11] <Bronzdragon> We hold up every guy, and baloon them.
[20:51:23] <Apsup> Pc version of Trials Evolution is coming.
[20:51:40] <Cybylt> I've been after rathalos materials because you use those to make a rocket launcher that balloons everyone caught in the blast
[20:51:40] <aria> Isn't that a flash game?
[20:52:01] <aria> You need Rathalos for that?
[20:52:11] <aria> I don't think that's how I got it
[20:52:14] <Cybylt> That's what I was told
[20:52:17] <aria> From Rathalos, you get the musket
[20:52:22] <Cybylt> ah
[20:52:22] <Cybylt> huh
[20:52:25] <aria> that has a 33% chance of balooning people
[20:52:34] <aria> Well, without the baloon effect, but it does the same thing
[20:52:43] <aria> But the drop rate on that thing is like 1/700-something
[20:53:13] <Cybylt> apparently the balloon launcher is earned by doing Extra Ops [45] > [46] > [102] > [47] > [48] > [91] > [37] > [98]
[20:53:19] <aria> Unless you kill him a very specific way (sleep him, cut off his tail, horns, and both wings) when its about 10%
[20:53:58] <aria> The only things I don't have are the sticks for making the human slingshot
[20:54:00] <aria> and the musket
[20:54:36] <aria> Oh I also haven't maxed out my ZEKE AI I guess
[20:55:09] <Cybylt> I was working on that as well, but never got around to the ZEKE practice fight
[20:55:26] <aria> Wait..
[20:55:34] <aria> you have done the ZEKE proper fight, right?
[20:55:44] <Bronzdragon> You have to practise on him first.
[20:55:58] <aria> Dude!
[20:56:03] <Cybylt> where Paz is piloting, yes
[20:56:05] <Cybylt> I did that
[20:56:07] <aria> Oh
[20:56:08] <aria> alright
[20:56:09] <Bronzdragon> Oh good.
[20:56:09] <Cybylt> not the AI battle
[21:14:29] <Cybylt> I need to save money, thinking of going to Otakon again
[21:14:41] <athenian200> Otakon?
[21:14:58] <Cybylt> it's an east coast game and anime convention
[21:15:00] <Cybylt> mostly anime
[21:15:05] <Bronzdragon> It's a play on "Oktaku" and "Convention", often shorted to "con"
[21:15:11] <Cybylt> yeah
[21:15:11] <athenian200> How would that save money?
[21:15:22] <athenian200> Going to an anime convention, I mean.
[21:15:24] <Bronzdragon> He would save money to go there.
[21:15:28] <Cybylt> I'm saying I need to save up money to go to it
[21:15:28] <athenian200> Ohh.
[21:15:28] <Cybylt> yeah
[21:15:30] <Bronzdragon> Rather than the other way around.
[21:15:30] <athenian200> LOL.
[21:15:36] <Bronzdragon> Silly you!
[21:16:02] <athenian200> LOL, I was wondering if there were discounts on anime/comic book stuff at the convention.
[21:16:19] <athenian200> I don't know where my head was.
[21:16:27] <Cybylt> Sometimes there's that too, but usually import stuff with not quite as much markup which is also nice
[21:16:57] <Cybylt> a friend and I would also like to go to GW's Games Day in chicago
[21:19:54] <Cybylt> I want to go to Comic-Con since it doesn't require a hotel or plane, but it ends up costing about the same because their tickets are twice as much as other conventions and it's damn near impossible to get in
[21:22:37] <aria> ^o)
[21:23:15] <aria> You can get a hotel and plane tickets for as much as a Otakon ticket?
[21:23:36] <aria> Why on earth are you going to otakon? Make your own convention, get rich
[21:23:51] <Cybylt> You can get two days in a hotel for as much as the comicon ticket
[21:23:54] <Bronzdragon> Making successful conventions is hard man.
[21:24:07] <Cybylt> maybe three
[21:25:07] <Cybylt> anyway here's how it is. Comicon is the most expensive ticket, but no plane or hotel. Otakon has the cheapest ticket and cheapest merchandise but requires a plane ride and staying at a friend's place.
[21:25:12] <Bronzdragon> Making three successful conventions is hard.er
[21:25:30] <Cybylt> Games Day is mid cost ticket, batshit insane cost on merchandise as well as hotel and plane
[21:25:32] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:25:42] <Cybylt> Also, Fast Karate has a booth at Otakon
[21:26:14] <aria> They do? What do they sell?
[21:26:42] <Bronzdragon> T shirts and jokes.
[21:26:59] <Cybylt> From the sounds of it, yeah
[21:27:01] <aria> They should have a booth, where you step inside, and it plays the baby clip
[21:27:11] <Cybylt> A baby Golgo shirt was mentioned
[21:27:12] <aria> then when you step out, they have a bunch of baby shirts on display
[21:27:16] <aria> and you can pay to pick one up
[21:27:31] <aria> Wait, Baby /GOLGO/?
[21:28:02] <Bronzdragon> It's golgo, but smaller
[21:29:04] <aria> It's just the regular baby bomb shirt http://www.daveandjoel.com
[21:32:13] <aria> Why do people dislike Other M?
[21:32:17] <aria> Other M was great
[21:32:35] <aria> I mean, it's only like an hour long
[21:32:40] <aria> but that hour was pretty fun
[21:32:40] <Cybylt> Because they made Samus submissive
[21:32:59] <aria> They did what?
[21:33:21] <Cybylt> for no apparent reason, and also going to the zero suit repeatedly for no reason other than tits
[21:33:33] <aria> That did happen
[21:33:45] <aria> Though it's only the opening and ending..
[21:34:07] <Cybylt> In most Metroids when your weapons are taken from you by force, in Other M some guy just says "Hey you can't use those" and Samus is totally fine with that
[21:34:31] <Cybylt> when she's supposed to be this total badass bounty hunter who don't give a fuck what the military tells her and gets shit done
[21:34:32] <Robobuntoo> ...
[21:34:34] <aria> Well yeah, she's a soldier. Thats how being a soldier works
[21:35:02] <aria> Oh it's a prequel. She stops working for the military at the end
[21:35:06] <aria> because its bullshit
[21:35:07] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[21:35:34] <athenian200> Isn't robobuntoo a bit of a hypocrite?
[21:35:35] <athenian200> xD
[21:35:45] <Cybylt> I was under the impression by out of the intro she was a bounty hunter. Because her suit wasn't military tech, it was chzo
[21:35:48] <Bronzdragon> (that's the joke)
[21:35:48] <aria> Yes he is
[21:35:53] <athenian200> LOL.
[21:35:56] <Bronzdragon> Though he's getting on my nerves a bit.
[21:36:16] <aria> Cybylt: I think that's just because it's better. They made her that suit, why not use it?
[21:36:16] <athenian200> Hypocrisy can be entertaining.
[21:36:28] <athenian200> Although, I personally think he's a bot anyway.
[21:36:29] <athenian200> xD
[21:36:41] <Cybylt> he is a bot
[21:36:47] <aria> REALLY!?
[21:36:51] <athenian200> Hehe.
[21:36:55] <aria> What in the name of Ubuntu!?
[21:36:56] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[21:37:01] <Cybylt> Hey Robobuntoo.... fuck
[21:37:02] <Robobuntoo> ...
[21:37:19] <athenian200> Watch what happens if you say ten.
[21:37:23] <athenian200> Oh, guess nothing.
[21:37:35] <athenian200> He used to do something if you said the word ten.
[21:37:38] <Cybylt> It needs to be ten in the context of something. Or in the middle of a sentence
[21:37:40] <Robobuntoo> You can't be ten ins!
[21:37:43] <Cybylt> there it is
[21:37:45] <athenian200> Oh.
[21:37:47] <athenian200> Yeah.
[21:37:49] <Cybylt> ten in
[21:38:15] <Bronzdragon> Nic etry, Cybylt
[21:38:24] <Bronzdragon> *nice try
[21:38:27] <Cybylt> I think I wrote a date once and he went "You can't ten twelve"
[21:38:28] <Robobuntoo> You can't t ten twelves!
[21:38:30] <Bronzdragon> Apperantly, I can't type, so I apologize.
[21:38:32] <Cybylt> hahaa
[21:39:01] <Bronzdragon> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
[21:39:02] <Robobuntoo> YOU CAN'T 9 TEN 11S!
[21:39:23] <Cybylt> Robuntu
[21:39:34] <Cybylt> no? Misspelling wont do it, huh
[21:39:39] <Cybylt> Ubuntu
[21:39:40] <Robobuntoo> oo-BOON-too!
[21:40:36] <aria> I love me some oo-BOON-too too!
[21:40:37] <Robobuntoo> that's my favorite OOPerating system
[21:45:27] <aria> ...
[21:45:38] <aria> Watching Best Friends
[21:45:42] <aria> and I totally agree with this
[21:45:56] <aria> They should make a servival Horror game, Silent Hill/Fatal Frame style
[21:46:06] <aria> where you control the scientist lady in Other M
[21:46:17] <aria> and you're stuck in the research lab, seeing Samus on the outside
[21:46:38] <aria> Like ripping through monster with her bear hands, and every time you get close, she'll turn around and give you that stare
[21:47:20] <aria> Eventually she gets inside and you need to hide among in the cargo room
[21:54:26] <aria> ..In want Platinum to make the next Metroid.
[21:58:03] <aria> Why can't Platinum make every game?
[21:58:20] <athenian200> Platinum is too expensive to use in every game.
[22:03:04] <Bronzdragon> You joke, but I don't think Platinum can keep it's personality and quality level if it grew too big or too fast.
[22:07:40] <aria> Are any of these games worth playing? Super Hexagon, Beat Hazard Ultra, Dynamite Jack, Solar 2, NightSky HD
[22:07:56] <athenian200> None of them sound like it to me.
[22:07:59] <athenian200> Honestly.
[22:08:06] <athenian200> Although that's just going on the names.
[22:08:18] <athenian200> If you have to ask, usually they're not.
[22:08:20] <Bronzdragon> Depends on your level of entusiasm.
[22:08:34] <Bronzdragon> Solar 2 is fun for ~10 minutes to ~30 minutes.
[22:08:40] <aria> Well they're indie games. So likely I haven't heard of them
[22:08:44] <Bronzdragon> (Only one I know first hand about)
[22:08:46] <aria> Super Hexagon costs 7 bucks.
[22:08:56] <aria> The rest are choose your own price
[22:09:04] <aria> Oh
[22:09:04] <athenian200> Indie games?
[22:09:06] <aria> 9.2 bucks
[22:09:09] <aria> because Linux
[22:09:12] <athenian200> Those usually aren't that good.
[22:09:12] <aria> http://www.humblebundle.com
[22:09:14] <Bronzdragon> Right.
[22:09:34] <Bronzdragon> Beat hazard is suppoded to be fun
[22:09:43] <aria> This is the ultra version
[22:09:50] <Bronzdragon> That's a "insert your music, and it generates a shmup for you"
[22:10:03] <athenian200> There's one or two good indie games, but in general the quality is hit or miss. The good ones are as good as a 15-year old SNES game.
[22:10:14] <Bronzdragon> Super hexagon is (according to Rym and Scott) fun.
[22:10:17] <athenian200> But most of them don't reach that level.
[22:10:40] <aria> athenian200: Acorss all indie games, you can only think of 2 good ones?
[22:10:57] <athenian200> Well, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.
[22:11:10] <athenian200> I'm sure all the good ones get buried under mountains of mediocre and bad ones.
[22:12:01] <athenian200> And there's not the same baseline of quality as you get with corporate games.
[22:12:12] <aria> c'mon. Demon's Souls, Oboro Muramasa, Super Meat Boy, Overgrowth, Grimrock,
[22:12:27] <athenian200> Actually, Super Meat Boy doesn't appeal to me.
[22:12:37] <athenian200> It's a super-hard game, platformer, etc.
[22:12:44] <Bronzdragon> You're asking for "good" not "I like it"
[22:12:58] <aria> It's very well made for what it tries to be
[22:13:02] <aria> I had a ton of fun with it
[22:13:11] <Bronzdragon> Also, this is more fun to look at than it should be; http://mg8.org
[22:13:13] <athenian200> To be fair, indie games generally don't appeal to my tastes at all.
[22:13:38] <athenian200> Because I mostly like RPGs, Action-Adventure games, and sometimes Strategy.
[22:13:48] <athenian200> Stuff with a good story.
[22:14:02] <athenian200> Indie games tend to be more like platformers, puzzle games, etc.
[22:14:55] <athenian200> I probably just tend to not like the genre they fall into.
[22:14:57] <aria> Why does the humble store say I have NS2, but not let me download it?
[22:15:00] <athenian200> So I can't give them a fair chance.
[22:15:13] <aria> And where the fuck are my THQ games?
[22:15:13] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[22:15:30] <athenian200> The store will say you have any game you buy.
[22:15:35] <athenian200> Whether it works on Linux or not.
[22:15:44] <athenian200> But won't let you download it on Linux.
[22:16:20] <Bronzdragon> Why won't it let me download a windows exectuable on Windows?
[22:16:22] <aria> FTL isn't here either
[22:16:32] <athenian200> Now that, I don't know.
[22:16:40] <athenian200> On Windows, it should let you download pretty much anything.
[22:16:45] <athenian200> Sounds like a bug in the store.
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[22:25:08] <aria> Well their costumer service isn't responding
[22:25:30] <aria> I take it they're busy now, but surely now is also the time you wanna make sure you have enough agents
[22:27:05] <aria> NS2 is 50 bucks!?
[22:27:58] <aria> Also their promo art is the ugliest promo art http://www.naturalselection2.com
[22:30:04] <Bronzdragon> Yeah... that Onos does not look pretty
[22:36:51] <athenian200> It looks like an armored T-Rex.
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[23:12:21] <Cybylt> I still can't get that Jim Sterling line out of my head
[23:12:31] <Cybylt> "How many emotions is people?"
[23:13:12] <Bronzdragon> That is, indeed, a really good line
[23:21:11] <aria> 1 Monsters
[23:21:14] <aria> 2 Phazon
[23:21:16] <aria> 3 ????
[23:21:19] <aria> 4 PROFIT!
[23:22:18] <Cybylt> Have you seen anything on MH4?
[23:22:32] <Cybylt> Monster Hunter 4
[23:22:32] <aria> I saw the first trailer
[23:22:35] <aria> looked sick
[23:22:40] <aria> but with terrible visuals
[23:23:00] <Cybylt> they really cleaned up character models though the backgrounds were a bit lacking
[23:23:08] <Cybylt> but they've delayed the game a few months to clean it up
[23:23:16] <aria> ...Huh?
[23:23:17] <aria> Why?
[23:23:25] <aria> It looked great
[23:23:39] <aria> I mean-- not graphically, but it was huge
[23:23:39] <Cybylt> they were sacrificing the visuals for better AI and motions but apparently the background complaints were big enough that they're holding off
[23:23:49] <aria> and draw distance wasn't like a cm
[23:23:59] <Cybylt> I mean like the ground and stuff
[23:24:04] <aria> Aw cmon
[23:24:23] <Cybylt> I think people were bitching because they never saw it on a 3DS
[23:24:30] <Cybylt> it looks so much better on a 3DS
[23:24:52] <Cybylt> I played the gameplay trailer on my JP one and it looked amazing AND the 3d effect didn't hurt my eyes
[23:24:56] <Cybylt> which is new for me
[23:25:22] <aria> Why can't people understand that you can't have giant destructable areas and SotC without either shitty graphics and shitty framerate or not being on the 3DS
[23:25:23] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[23:25:31] <Cybylt> but people look at stretched out screenshots on PC and think that's what it looks like
[23:26:07] <Cybylt> not entirely destructible but there's a new verticality to it all
[23:26:29] <Cybylt> faster climbing and running about, jumping off of cliffs to attack creatures
[23:26:40] <Cybylt> clinging onto their back Dragon's Dogma style
[23:27:05] <Cybylt> though not quite the same way, it just turns into a button mash to deal enough damage to knock it over before it throws you off
[23:27:38] <Cybylt> the first new weapon is a polearm that can fire darts to control this bug, and you can polevault with it
[23:28:00] <Cybylt> the other new weapon is like the switch axe, except the head detatches entirely into a shield and the core becomes a sword
[23:28:15] <Cybylt> which makes it like the perfect introductory weapon
[23:29:08] <Cybylt> the flagship monster gives other wyverns rabies
[23:29:46] <Cybylt> pretty much at least, people roughly translate it as the "dragon virus" and monsters with it enrage easier and get hungry faster
[23:30:06] <Cybylt> Kut Ku, Gypceros, and the original three raptors are back
[23:30:18] <Cybylt> there's three or four villages instead of one and each specialized in different things
[23:30:51] <Cybylt> like the first town is a trading center inspired by mongolian bazaars while the second is a mining and smelting place at the base of a volcano
[23:31:15] <Cybylt> they advanced things is so many ways but all you hear is "MUH GRAFFIX"
[23:31:23] <Cybylt> IN SO*
[23:31:25] <Cybylt> oops
[23:35:38] <Bronzdragon> So... you like Monster Hunter, eh?
[23:35:43] <Cybylt> Love it
[23:43:51] <Cybylt> perhaps a bit too much
[23:44:13] <Bronzdragon> No such thing
[23:51:56] <Bronzdragon> ...
[23:52:00] <Bronzdragon> *pew pew pew*
[23:57:38] <Cybylt> That's a good point, no such thing as loving MH too much
[23:59:20] <Apsup> I'd like Monster hunter quite a lot more if PSP had second analog stick for camera control.