#geeknights | Logs for 2013-02-28

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[00:57:31] <aria> Microwave popcorn is bad, says science?
[00:57:40] <aria> Also, what kind of popcorn do you get that doesn't come with salt?
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[03:33:37] <Cybylt> Hello
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[10:58:37] <aria> So at what point is it too late to turn down a job offer?
[11:18:19] <aria> There's Ticket to Ride for Steam
[11:18:22] <aria> its 2 bucks
[11:18:36] <aria> I haven't played the original, and the physical board is more than 2 bucks
[11:19:22] <aria> But I'll be limited to 2 players unless I'm gonna make people who wanna play with me pay 2 bucks and then wait for it to download/install, and also require a Windows PC
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[13:15:44] <Bronzdragon> 'ello, denizens
[14:57:04] <MrBRAD> looky http://www.youtube.com
[14:57:32] <MrBRAD> rat on the left has one of the two levers light up, and presses it to get reward
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[14:57:56] <MrBRAD> rat on right has both levers light up, but only one is correct
[14:58:30] <MrBRAD> the same lever that was correct for the first rat, is correct for the second
[15:00:07] <Bronzdragon> Hey MrBRAD
[15:00:21] <MrBRAD> HI BRONZ
[15:01:05] <MrBRAD> how would you feel about having a brain connection to somebody so you can pull the correct lever?
[15:01:53] <Bronzdragon> I don't need to pull levers often, so I don't think it'd come up much.
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[16:41:40] <Bronzdragon> hai Cybylt
[16:41:49] <Cybylt> Hello
[16:41:55] <Cybylt> I'm excited for MHTU
[16:42:11] <Bronzdragon> Yeah! Me too!
[16:42:17] <Bronzdragon> If I knew what mhtu was
[16:42:19] <Cybylt> Host kicks are finally added, and in april they're removing region locks on servers
[16:42:25] <Cybylt> Monter Hunter Tri Ultimate
[16:43:19] <Cybylt> no more situations like in tri where you're waiting on a buddy then some ashole comes in taking the fourth slot, posting their urgent and only saying "Hlp pls"
[16:44:27] <Cybylt> the april patch will also add off-tv play for the wiiu version
[16:47:15] <Bronzdragon> yay
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[17:21:51] <MrBRAD> woop woop I got Guns of Icarus
[17:32:10] <Cybylt> What's that MrBRAD?
[17:32:37] <MrBRAD> some bad game probably made by a huge nerd that is probably you
[17:32:54] <MrBRAD> I know scrym have friends involved in it's dev team
[17:33:01] <MrBRAD> :P
[17:33:37] <MrBRAD> My serious answer is that it's a multiplayer team based airship combat game
[17:34:10] <Cybylt> Sounds pretty cool
[17:35:05] <Cybylt> I gotta say though, with me on the dev team I am concerned about it's quality
[17:35:19] <MrBRAD> http://store.steampowered.com
[17:36:16] <Cybylt> I like that it's on steam, because puns
[17:36:33] <MrBRAD> heh
[17:42:41] <aria> Why didn't you make puns at Ticket to Ride on steam?
[17:44:30] <Cybylt> Because I wasn't in that conversation, I think. I don't remember a Ticket to Ride before
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[18:23:25] <Bronzdragon> Wuzzup
[18:23:54] <aria> So..
[18:24:08] <Bronzdragon> Yes?
[18:24:39] <aria> My mums asking me whats wrong with this computer and I don't know. It used to work. She unplugged the ehternet, rebooted, plugged it back in, and now it doesn't get internet
[18:24:49] <Bronzdragon> ...
[18:24:52] <aria> She's in America, so I'm assuming american ISP bullshit?
[18:24:52] <Bronzdragon> On her laptop?
[18:24:53] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:24:59] <aria> Nah, a desktop
[18:25:06] <aria> It's a Win XP desktop
[18:25:15] <Bronzdragon> I dunno, I don't think you can just assume ISP is bullshit
[18:25:16] <Robobuntoo> Censor yourself, Motherfucker!
[18:25:23] <Bronzdragon> Did she... convert the power strip?
[18:25:30] <Bronzdragon> They have a lower voltage in the US
[18:25:32] <aria> convert the power strip? What now?
[18:25:37] <Bronzdragon> Maybe the MOBO is not getting enough power
[18:26:02] <aria> There are no added parts. She's currently in the US, using a desktop that has been in the US and working for a while
[18:26:11] <apreche> hello IRC friends
[18:26:41] <aria> Hey apreche, do US ISPs have bullshit that require you to do something special to use regular broadband?
[18:26:42] <Robobuntoo> ...
[18:26:43] <Bronzdragon> Hello apreche.
[18:26:58] <aria> Type in a PIN for the modem to let you access or something of that nature
[18:29:00] <apreche> what kind of bullshit?
[18:29:01] <Robobuntoo> ...
[18:29:19] <apreche> you call them up, you pay them money, they install the equipment and wire it to their network
[18:29:40] <apreche> then you plug your equipment into their equipment, and you use DHCP to get an IP from them
[18:29:43] <apreche> and that's it
[18:30:04] <apreche> some DLS providers use PPPoE, so you need a username and password to get it to connect.
[18:30:42] <aria> Well from the sound of it, DHCP worked, but it was local area, even though it was plugged directly from the modem
[18:30:47] <Bronzdragon> The context is Aria's mom shut down a PC for updates, and when it booted up, it would no longer connect to the Internet.
[18:30:50] <aria> But alright, fair enough
[18:30:57] <Bronzdragon> (Whereas it worked before perfectly fine)
[18:31:00] <apreche> is ther a router involved?
[18:31:04] <aria> Oh nah, she unplugged the ethernet and used that
[18:31:17] <aria> then when putting it back in the desktop, desktop wouldn't work
[18:31:19] <aria> Nope
[18:31:22] <aria> No router involved
[18:31:26] <apreche> big updates or little updates?
[18:31:40] <aria> little updates
[18:31:40] <apreche> normal computer or weird computer?
[18:31:52] <aria> I wouldn't know
[18:31:59] <aria> Actually
[18:32:02] <apreche> could be network card driver got updated, and it's a weird one
[18:32:04] <aria> prebuilt Dell or something
[18:32:20] <apreche> also can't rule out malwares
[18:32:41] <apreche> some malware was attaching itself to the network traffic and got broken by the update
[18:33:25] <apreche> Try messing about in the network settings
[18:33:28] <apreche> disable/re-enable
[18:33:42] <apreche> if that doesn't work, reinstall OS
[18:33:46] <apreche> will take less time than solving
[18:34:32] <aria> I'm not physically there, and there is no Windows DVD available either probably
[18:34:46] <Bronzdragon> On top of that, it's his mom, adding complication
[18:34:52] <Bronzdragon> She does not believe anything Aria tells her.
[18:34:58] <aria> ... =P
[18:35:00] <Bronzdragon> (So, that's fun)
[18:35:10] <aria> She asked over the phone earlier
[18:36:23] <aria> I should not have added two different chilli sauces to these sasuages
[18:36:31] <aria> The onion probably doesn't help either
[18:36:44] <Bronzdragon> ... it's too sweet?
[18:37:04] <aria> Yes.
[18:38:34] <aria> Win XP doesn't have like.. some checkbox you need to click somewhere so MS won't be liable when you access the internet and see porn/malware, does it?
[18:39:05] <Bronzdragon> Nope
[18:39:21] <aria> =/
[18:42:42] <apreche> I had all these works, but then I did all of them.
[18:42:50] <apreche> and it's not even 2
[18:43:02] <apreche> the one work I could do depends on an open source person fixing something.
[18:43:05] <aria> Initial D season 5 is out
[18:43:15] <apreche> WHA
[18:43:25] <apreche> does it adapt the manga?
[18:43:32] <MrBRAD> ooh ooh gotta get dat music
[18:43:32] <aria> I don't know. It looks different
[18:43:34] <apreche> if so, I've probably read the material it covers.
[18:43:38] <aria> It follows after season 4
[18:43:41] <apreche> different? NO LIPS?
[18:43:52] <aria> They still have lips
[18:43:54] <aria> Just different lips
[18:44:01] <aria> I've only seen the first episode
[18:44:06] <aria> it was Initial D alright
[18:44:11] <apreche> I'm only thinking about Natural Selection 2 and Netrunner right now
[18:44:14] <apreche> and GitS
[18:44:25] <apreche> they have pushed all the other things out of my brain
[18:44:33] <MrBRAD> oh shit, gotta go to bed to be up for NS2
[18:44:53] <apreche> NS2 update should be in 4 hoursish?
[18:45:05] <MrBRAD> 5:15 I think
[18:47:01] <apreche> says 1800 EST
[18:47:10] <apreche> It is currently 1345 EST
[18:47:58] <aria> It's 19:45 in Estonia
[18:48:18] <apreche> what time zone is Estonia?
[18:48:23] <MrBRAD> oh the time on australia says EDT, I assumed EST
[18:48:45] <apreche> http://unknownworlds.com
[18:49:01] <MrBRAD> damn southerners and their daylight savings
[18:49:20] <aria> UTC+1
[18:49:21] <Bronzdragon> Estonia is Europe time
[18:49:52] <apreche> pretty sure Europe has more than one time zone
[18:50:13] <aria> It has 2. One doesn't count
[18:50:32] <aria> So it really only has the one
[18:51:33] <Bronzdragon> Actually, apreche, the reason I can say "Europe time zone" is because we used to have like... 4
[18:51:50] <Bronzdragon> But that was awkward, so we averaged it all out, and now we have basically one
[18:51:55] <Bronzdragon> England has it's own
[18:52:14] <aria> Yeah, the England one is the one that doesn't count
[18:52:20] <Bronzdragon> Imagine if everyone in 'Murica just had central America time.
[18:52:28] <Bronzdragon> It'd be so much more convenient!
[18:52:44] <aria> But then the sun would go down at all the wrong times
[18:53:07] <Bronzdragon> eh, when the sun goes down changes several hours a year anyway
[18:53:31] <Bronzdragon> It helps that Europe is the smallest continent though.
[19:02:41] <apreche> I wish there was just a universal clock
[19:02:47] <apreche> it's 0 everywhere on earth
[19:02:50] <apreche> it's 23 everywhere on earth
[19:02:54] <Bronzdragon> I know!
[19:02:58] <Bronzdragon> that was my idea!
[19:03:03] <apreche> and people in one place just get used to the fact that they get up at 7 and in this other country you wake up at 20
[19:03:03] <Bronzdragon> Just everyone use GMT.
[19:03:17] <Bronzdragon> I don't get why people just can't do that?
[19:04:30] <apreche> I should change all my clocks to UTC 24 hour time
[19:04:31] <apreche> and live by that
[19:04:37] <apreche> gotta start somewhere
[19:06:18] <Bronzdragon> The problem with that is that it's not actually easier
[19:11:23] <apreche> it would be easier if everyone just did it
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[19:12:02] <Bronzdragon> If I was govener of the world...
[19:56:04] <Cybylt> Dust doesn't nickel and dime you as much as I was lead to believe. But there needs to be better matchmaking when it comes to level balance.
[19:56:24] <aria> apreche: Your computers also use am/pm?
[19:56:40] <aria> I figured that was just in speech and unformel things
[19:56:59] <aria> in*
[19:57:12] <Cybylt> Because I was just in a match where the enemy had five+ fully decked out tanks
[19:57:54] <Cybylt> Meaning anything short of high level players who dedicated their skills to antiarmor can't do shit to them
[19:58:30] <Cybylt> Not that they'd really have time to get a lockon anyway because there's five god damn tanks in a smaller level
[19:59:42] <aria> Can't you ask a Eve player to take them out?
[19:59:55] <aria> I take it slow tanks are super easy targets for Eve players
[20:00:09] <Cybylt> Probably, if I bothered to learn how to contact a ship
[20:00:10] <aria> just give them the Isk that your medkits/bullets would've cost you
[20:00:56] <Cybylt> I'm not sure they're involved in the gametype, because I have yet to see orbital bombardment in the MCC matches
[20:01:23] <Cybylt> probably because they'd just be able to bomb the shit out of the bases in seconds and it'd get rid of the point of the gametype
[20:02:39] <Cybylt> Bullets are free, all starter gear is free, but other than that you have to gear yourself up spending isk and you do not get your shit back when you die
[20:03:20] <Cybylt> And on prices. I guess this is just a thing that was done in EVE as well, I dunno, never played it. But there is some ridiculous amounts of inflation on everthing with isk
[20:03:56] <Cybylt> you can just drop three zeroes because there's nothing less than the thousands place
[20:04:28] <Cybylt> even in a losing match you make 100k or more
[20:05:03] <Cybylt> same thing with skill points, where you start with 500,000 to spend on base level skills
[20:06:05] <Cybylt> 18,000 is cheap
[20:06:21] <Cybylt> why not just put it down as 18 and 500
[20:08:15] <aria> Cybylt:
[20:08:19] <aria> Explain to Bronz that he is dumb
[20:08:43] <aria> He's saying I'm being whiney by complaining that something called "990 Extreme" is not the top of the line product
[20:09:06] <aria> but actually in the middle of that line of products and it goes higher, but with confusing naming schemes
[20:09:27] <Cybylt> if it were the 90's it might be, but it isn't
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[21:23:57] <Bronzdragon> HAI SPACEJAM
[21:24:05] <spacejam> oi
[21:24:06] <Bronzdragon> JAM-- OF-- SPACE
[21:26:07] <Bronzdragon> This new doctor lady is mean!
[21:39:14] <spacejam> i am bored of all games
[21:39:21] <Bronzdragon> ALL games?
[21:39:28] <spacejam> name a game
[21:39:29] <Bronzdragon> that's a pretty bold claim
[21:39:36] <Bronzdragon> ... hide 'n seek
[21:39:42] <spacejam> BORED
[21:39:53] <Bronzdragon> name whoever farted in the lift.
[21:40:00] <spacejam> that sounds terrible
[21:40:03] <spacejam> did you just play that today?
[21:40:16] <Bronzdragon> ... I didn't travel in any elevators, but I would've
[21:40:20] <aria> Metal Gear Cutty cut
[21:40:24] <aria> Dark Souls
[21:40:46] <spacejam> meh
[21:40:52] <aria> Monter Hunter wii -> 3ds -> psp -> ps3 -> 3ds -> wii port
[21:40:53] <Bronzdragon> Ticket to ride?
[21:41:11] <spacejam> i don't have mh, but it sounds shooty and boring
[21:41:16] <spacejam> ttr was boring five years ago
[21:41:30] <aria> Monster Hunter is punchy, not shooty
[21:41:37] <spacejam> same thing
[21:41:41] <spacejam> it's like a gun
[21:41:44] <spacejam> only it shoots fist
[21:41:54] <Bronzdragon> Hungry hungry hippo.
[21:41:54] <aria> Residentl Evil 4
[21:41:57] <spacejam> presumably you aim and press the a button
[21:41:58] <spacejam> ooh hhh
[21:42:01] <aria> Punch Out
[21:42:05] <spacejam> that would be fun for about 4 seconds
[21:42:08] <spacejam> RE4 hmmm
[21:42:18] <spacejam> sounds old
[21:42:19] <aria> Hokuto Musou
[21:42:22] <spacejam> punch out would just be frustrating
[21:42:30] <spacejam> what is that, something from the lion king?
[21:42:44] <aria> Sure
[21:42:48] <aria> Mario Kart
[21:42:56] <aria> Ninja Gaiden
[21:43:01] <aria> Ganbare Goemon
[21:43:06] <aria> Fire Emblem
[21:43:32] <Bronzdragon> Mirror's Edge
[21:43:32] <spacejam> i don't own the last two
[21:44:08] <spacejam> ooh birdemic 2
[21:44:50] <Bronzdragon> NIIIIICE
[21:46:10] <aria> Ico
[21:46:14] <aria> Shadow of the Colossus
[21:46:23] <aria> Zelda
[21:46:26] <aria> Majora's Mask
[21:46:40] <aria> After burner
[21:47:15] <aria> Bored of ALL the things?
[21:47:29] <Bronzdragon> ... I dare say, Call of Duty?
[21:47:33] <Bronzdragon> Battlefield 3?
[21:47:41] <Bronzdragon> Other major shooter pew pew thing?
[21:47:47] <spacejam> meh
[21:47:48] <Bronzdragon> Oh! Alone in the Dark!
[21:47:50] <aria> Vanquish, Sin and Punishment, Tales of things
[21:47:52] <Bronzdragon> that'll tickle your fancy
[21:47:54] <spacejam> it's all clicking and shooting and clicking and not shooting
[21:47:58] <spacejam> and moving
[21:47:59] <spacejam> and stuff
[21:48:00] <spacejam> s
[21:48:07] <Bronzdragon> How about... Assassin's Creed?
[21:48:07] <aria> You don't like movement?
[21:48:11] <aria> Or is it the shooting?
[21:48:25] <spacejam> we should go through this in more detial
[21:48:38] <spacejam> what sort of game is alone in the dark
[21:48:39] <aria> Oboro Muramasa, or the furry one that is on Xbox. Dust
[21:48:43] <spacejam> vanquish, s&p, tot
[21:48:44] <aria> A terrible game
[21:48:53] <spacejam> i don't play much console
[21:49:21] <aria> Vanquish is a shooty game. But you move really fast and do crazy Japan-things
[21:49:48] <aria> S&P is a on rails shooter, but it plays like a side scrolling shooter
[21:50:05] <aria> so you do the Ikaruga matching colours thing, dodging, meleeing bullets, etc
[21:50:05] <Bronzdragon> Alright, Alone in the Dark is the best game
[21:50:16] <Bronzdragon> You have a gun, but it's not like you can aim with it!
[21:50:26] <Bronzdragon> And moving? You're bored of that! Imagine moving like a tank!
[21:50:28] <aria> Tales games are RPGs with real time combat
[21:50:44] <Bronzdragon> It has melee combat, and you have to use your camera stick to swing, so that works great!
[21:51:02] <Bronzdragon> And it has a crafting system! Apply alchohol to bullets; firebullets! =D
[21:51:17] <Bronzdragon> Oh, and the driving, it's like driving a hovercraft, except it doesn't have air in it!
[21:51:27] <Bronzdragon> 10/10 please don't make me play it again
[21:51:28] <Robobuntoo> You can't 10 ten pleases!
[21:51:55] <aria> I say play Peace Walker
[21:52:22] <Bronzdragon> Peace walker is fun.
[21:52:23] <spacejam> what is peace walker
[21:52:36] <aria> Metal Gear minus the cutscenes
[21:52:39] <aria> also the narrative
[21:52:44] <aria> just a bunch of sneaking missions
[21:52:53] <aria> Actually, it does have cutscenes, but they're great
[21:53:17] <aria> Enemy guy has a rocket hand that doubles as a lightyer
[21:53:34] <Bronzdragon> which is to say, it's a red robot hand
[21:53:43] <Bronzdragon> The reason it's red is because he is soviet.
[21:53:54] <aria> http://youtu.be
[21:54:33] <aria> Main main enemy is a high schooler in her underwear. You fight her to up beat Jpop
[21:54:34] <spacejam> is that 10 minutes of not a cutscene?
[21:54:35] <Robobuntoo> You can't that ten minutes!
[21:55:04] <aria> It's 10 minutes of cutscene. It's an example of the cutscenes being great. The greatness starts a minute or two in
[21:55:06] <Robobuntoo> You can't s ten minutes!
[21:55:11] <Bronzdragon> For once, Robobuntoo is correct.
[21:55:28] <Bronzdragon> This cutscene is so long because your'e not supposed to watch it all
[21:56:03] <aria> Oh yeah, it's 10 minutes because he doesn't QTE correctly
[21:56:04] <Robobuntoo> You can't s ten minutes!
[21:56:52] <spacejam> wow
[21:58:06] <Bronzdragon> Btw, that cutscene sucks on xbox...
[21:58:16] <aria> It sucks on PSP too
[21:58:23] <aria> At least on Xbox you can get a turbo controller
[22:00:29] <spacejam> oh that's what that triangle in the bottom right is
[22:04:15] <aria> Also, all the bosses are voiced by Hatsune Miku
[22:04:56] <aria> There's also a mission which is a romantic date on the beach with Master Miller