#geeknights | Logs for 2013-01-09

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[01:53:34] <spacejam> https://twitter.com
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[02:36:34] <okeefe> I have concluded that the last time I watched Utena, I definitely, accidentally didn't watch all the episodes and might have skipped some. Because things are making a lot more sense this time around, and a few things I remember haven't happened yet.
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[02:55:30] <Apsupp> Maybe things make more sence because you are watching them the second time. It tends to do that.
[02:58:43] <okeefe> No, I would have remembered this.
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[08:02:48] <aria> Awesome, yesterday it was click and drag
[08:02:57] <aria> now its click and hold and drag again?
[08:03:08] <aria> Make up your mind, stop changing my commands daily
[09:12:29] <okeefe> Fascinating: http://www.theverge.com
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[09:48:46] <aria> MrBrad
[09:48:54] <aria> Are you Brad from Gaint Bomb?
[09:48:57] <aria> If you are:
[09:49:04] <aria> Just click on the money button
[09:49:06] <aria> Its right there
[09:49:25] <aria> stop complaining about not having money and circuling your mouse around the cheat button you just installed
[09:49:35] <MrBRAD> unfortunately i have no such button and am not that guy :(
[09:49:51] <aria> Aww man =(
[09:50:00] <aria> That button is so useful
[09:50:43] <MrBRAD> sounds like a nintendo situation, where a business is doing themselves out of money
[09:50:56] <MrBRAD> care to give me a 20-words-or-less summary?
[09:51:19] <aria> In-game money in a video game where you play to get XP adn cash in your XP for in-game upgrades
[09:51:50] <aria> 2 hour video preview thing where he spent 40 of those minutes installing a money-making mod and not using it
[09:51:57] <MrBRAD> haaaah!
[09:52:18] <MrBRAD> was that the euro truck 2 video?
[09:52:25] <aria> Yes
[09:52:40] <MrBRAD> i remember flicking through that and seeing cheat engine, yes
[09:53:02] <aria> Oh cheat engine would've been the logical way of doing it, since he spent a bunch of time installing that
[09:53:11] <aria> But he also got a game-specific money/XP mod
[09:53:13] <MrBRAD> you would think installing cheats would be cut from the video
[09:53:15] <aria> and didn't use that either
[09:53:50] <aria> Also god damn he's bad at finding files =P
[09:54:02] <aria> I saw more ads in this youtube than Ive seen on the internet in 2013
[09:54:22] <MrBRAD> does the internet have advertising?
[09:54:53] <MrBRAD> I seem to have no adverts on my internets!
[09:55:00] <aria> Good man
[09:55:09] <aria> It does when you use chrome
[09:55:30] <MrBRAD> try a different adblocker then
[09:55:55] <aria> Well Im not using one, I was thinking vanilla chrome. I know you can get adblocking on there too
[09:56:01] <aria> Or systemwide adblocking I suppose
[09:56:30] <MrBRAD> here's what I use for chrome: https://chrome.google.com
[09:57:03] <aria> I visted the page in firefox, and it told me "You will need Google Chrome to install most apps, extensions and themes."
[09:57:07] <aria> /most/
[09:58:01] <aria> The one I use has a plus in the name. That means it must be better!
[09:58:14] <MrBRAD> my firefox one has a plus in the name!
[09:58:50] <MrBRAD> Both of mine "just work" so I don't really care which one I use
[09:59:05] <MrBRAD> I bet there is a huge drama and bitchfight about it on some forum somewhere
[09:59:31] <aria> Ive had instances of ads coming through, or being denied access because I blocked ads
[09:59:50] <aria> But nothing I cared about enough disable adblock/switch it out for one that worked better
[09:59:51] <MrBRAD> yeah me too, and then I adblocked the screen blocking element
[09:59:58] <MrBRAD> good times
[10:00:19] <aria> Of course. But if I have to do that, it doesn't count as "just work"ing
[10:01:09] <MrBRAD> i think the occasional livestream site's ads used to get through in chrome. Not sure if it got fixed or I changed because of that
[10:01:28] <MrBRAD> either way, right now I don't have ads
[10:02:05] <aria> He just broke his engine
[10:02:07] <aria> and ignored it
[10:02:12] <aria> Not sure if he noticed or not
[10:02:29] <MrBRAD> urgh my foot is aching, i kicked the top of it into the corner of my dishwasher's door
[10:02:45] <MrBRAD> said door was lowered flat down near foot level because I was emptying it
[10:03:16] <MrBRAD> I think it might need amputation
[10:03:30] <aria> Should've been wearing pillows!
[10:07:46] <aria> http://www.youtube.com
[10:09:29] <MrBRAD> hah holy shit, I'm amazed the game even allows that!
[10:09:44] <MrBRAD> brilliant roll
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[12:01:14] <bronzdragon> Hey guys!
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[12:17:01] <aria> Hi
[12:19:42] <bronzdragon> ah, there ya are!
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[14:01:03] <nine> Kulag's Furysword!
[14:13:59] <bronzdragon> =O
[14:14:13] <aria> Kellog
[14:14:58] <aria> Kulag: If you're wondering, Kulag is a spider with boobs
[14:15:03] <aria> She has a sword made out of lava
[14:15:15] <aria> A lot of people like to use it for PvE in Dark Souls
[14:15:40] <Kulag> s/Ku/Quee/ :V
[14:16:08] <aria> Oh sorry
[14:16:14] <aria> Yes, in Dark Souls its spelled with a Q
[14:16:26] <nine> It's not made out of lava you fuck.
[14:16:26] <aria> and 2 e's
[14:16:35] <nine> It's spikey and more made out of spider leg.
[14:16:46] <nine> Quelaag.
[14:16:47] <aria> She is often reffered to as Kellogs
[14:16:48] <nine> Not two e's.
[14:16:54] <nine> aria being wrong again.
[14:16:59] <aria> Lava hairs
[14:17:24] <nine> ...
[14:17:27] <aria> Spider leg, what?
[14:17:28] <nine> It's not lava.
[14:17:36] <nine> Have you seen her legs?
[14:18:11] <nine> http://www.gamerdna.com
[14:18:15] <nine> LOOK AT THAT SWORD.
[14:18:20] <aria> No, its just a stick with lava on it
[14:18:20] <aria> its not made out of a leg
[14:18:21] <nine> LOOK AT THOSE LEGS.
[14:18:24] <nine> Observe them fine tits.
[14:18:33] <nine> It's not made off, my bad.
[14:18:38] <nine> It looks more like one than LAVA.
[14:19:04] <nine> Also, that's probably a console screenshot.
[14:19:06] <nine> It's terrible.
[14:20:27] <Kulag> Clearly the console version is superior, it has fewer pixels so the pixels are bigger and easier to see!
[14:22:42] <nine> Welcome Kulag.
[14:22:48] <nine> You always show up, but never speak.
[14:23:01] <nine> It's good to see the name's not just a lurk bot.
[14:23:26] <Kulag> Just a lurk human.
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[14:50:17] <aria> So what's the story behind your nick, Kulag?
[14:57:18] <Kulag> http://dk-software.com <-- A quest-giver NPC in Dark Ages 2: Engel, a game I helped beta test when I was about 12.
[15:00:47] <aria> *nods*
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[17:01:44] <bronzdragon> Haaai
[17:04:37] <LtChibi> Heyo.
[17:08:17] <bronzdragon> wuzzup?
[17:10:52] <LtChibi> Not too much.
[17:11:12] <LtChibi> Classes. Gonna play more ns2 later.
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[17:11:36] <LtChibi> I'm hooked. :D Its an excellent game.
[17:12:26] <bronzdragon> ...
[17:12:31] <bronzdragon> I'll have to get into it
[17:12:33] <bronzdragon> It's hard maaaan
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[17:30:10] <LtChibi> it is really difficult at first.
[17:30:33] <LtChibi> been starting commanding. people get super mad, even on the rookie servers.
[17:32:25] <aria> Which game?
[17:34:51] <LtChibi> Natural Selection 2
[17:35:32] <aria> I see
[17:35:41] <aria> That was my #1 guess
[17:36:16] <aria> Are they getting mad because you're doing a bad job, or because they're dying and think you could've saved them?
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[17:55:44] <LtChibi> Eh. The former.
[17:55:54] <LtChibi> It was my first or so time.
[17:56:31] <LtChibi> Nobody else wanted to command, though. In fact, I was told ti get up there.
[17:57:29] <Apsupp> It's easier to start commanding as an alien. I've won few games alien alien commander, but never been able to comman a full round as a marine.
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[18:31:48] <LtChibi> Alien is... interesting. Different than playing the generic rts ...
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[18:47:05] <bronzdragon> ruffas!
[18:53:33] <ruffas> bronz!
[18:53:43] <ruffas> other idlers!
[18:54:28] <aria> I am an idler!
[18:54:48] <tresi> Sup, dawg.
[18:54:51] <ruffas> no longer
[18:55:01] <aria> Actually, Im often the only one talking
[18:55:07] <aria> Tresi? =O
[18:55:15] <aria> Welcome
[18:55:22] <aria> You're new here
[18:55:25] <bronzdragon> tresi! A new person
[18:55:27] <bronzdragon> From MIT!
[18:55:39] <ruffas> ooh
[18:56:30] <tresi> Actually, I usually have another nick, but I signed in with the wrong one. BRB.
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[18:57:06] <okeefe> My bad.
[18:57:08] <bronzdragon> Oh!
[18:57:11] <bronzdragon> It's this guy!
[18:57:12] <aria> Oh
[18:57:12] <bronzdragon> =D
[18:57:19] <okeefe> Too many irc networks.
[18:57:25] <aria> Aw that's boring
[18:57:28] <aria> We've already seen you!
[18:58:04] <bronzdragon> No matter
[18:58:25] <bronzdragon> A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
[18:58:38] <okeefe> Sorry to accidentally convince you that the heat death of the channel wasn't underway.
[18:59:05] <okeefe> Speaking of roses, I'm now 2/3rds of the way through Utena.
[18:59:21] <ruffas> that's a majority of the way!
[18:59:22] <aria> That's further than us
[18:59:29] <bronzdragon> ^
[19:01:35] <ruffas> i'm most of the way through my card game show
[19:02:13] <bronzdragon> Card games are best games.
[19:02:23] <aria> Not drifitng games?
[19:02:29] <ruffas> nope
[19:02:33] <aria> Or houkuto shinken games?
[19:02:36] <ruffas> not on motorcycles either
[19:02:46] <ruffas> i need to finish HnK still
[19:02:52] <ruffas> ~50% through that
[19:02:54] <aria> Why are you doing other things?
[19:03:26] <ruffas> because stuff?
[19:03:47] <ruffas> can't handle so much uncut manliness in one go
[19:04:06] <aria> How do you take breaks between HnKs?
[19:04:15] <aria> Usually you'll wanna keep watching
[19:04:25] <ruffas> a nice sorbet
[19:04:26] <aria> Until the very end
[19:08:10] <bronzdragon> THE VERY END
[19:08:17] <bronzdragon> where you will have a manly tear
[19:08:27] <aria> Just the one?
[19:08:28] <bronzdragon> Perhaps multiple
[19:08:43] <aria> And at the very end, you'll debate if you wanna watch HnK2
[19:08:47] <aria> very throughly
[19:08:54] <aria> But then choose not to
[19:09:00] <aria> because it was TOO GOOD
[19:09:52] <bronzdragon> ^
[19:11:15] <ruffas> i'll get to it eventually
[19:11:35] <aria> Also Bronz tells you never watched the Initial D
[19:11:40] <aria> So watch that one too
[19:14:37] <ruffas> but it's crap with an awesome souondtrack
[19:14:48] <aria> What?
[19:15:00] <aria> Its excellent with an excellent other than the dating subplots
[19:15:08] <aria> Because that's horrible
[19:15:15] <bronzdragon> ...
[19:15:16] <aria> So you can skip that crap
[19:15:20] <bronzdragon> Dating is 50% of the show
[19:15:24] <bronzdragon> And has 0 eurobeat
[19:15:26] <aria> But all the races are amazing
[19:15:31] <bronzdragon> ^ Yes
[19:18:07] <ruffas> a big problem for me is that it's butt ugly
[19:18:23] <aria> the CG or dudes?
[19:18:30] <ruffas> yes
[19:18:42] <aria> If the dudes: Don't worry, they change faces every season
[19:18:48] <aria> you will hardly recognize them!
[19:18:57] <bronzdragon> Technically true...
[19:18:57] <ruffas> to other, equally bad faces
[19:19:08] <bronzdragon> But the faces don't have multi track drifting!
[19:19:11] <bronzdragon> Cars do!
[19:19:19] <aria> If the CG: Hold your tongue you fiend!
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[19:19:33] <bronzdragon> listen, people will make fun of multi-track drifting, but when that shit actually happens, you will say "OH SHIT!"
[19:19:47] <ruffas> who mocks it?
[19:19:50] <ruffas> it's great!
[19:22:14] <aria> So how far did you get in HnK?
[19:22:43] <aria> Which story arc?
[19:22:52] <aria> Who's the enemy? Whats the last thing that happened?
[19:22:57] <aria> What is the state of Toki?
[19:23:44] <ruffas> recently dead i think
[19:23:49] <aria> Wait what?
[19:23:54] <aria> Youve gotten thaat far?
[19:23:59] <aria> I was asking if in prison or not
[19:24:03] <ruffas> or getting there
[19:24:13] <aria> If he's recently sick:
[19:24:19] <aria> He's gonna stay sick for like 20 episodes
[19:29:33] <ruffas> http://en.wikipedia.org
[19:29:36] <ruffas> i think that's where i am
[19:31:21] <aria> Oh thats pretty far!
[19:31:26] <aria> How did you get that far and not finish it?
[19:31:55] <ruffas> shit happened
[19:32:04] <ruffas> mostly, i couldn't stream it in japan
[19:32:12] <aria> Oh right
[19:32:14] <aria> That happened
[19:32:14] <aria> fair enough
[19:33:28] <ruffas> now grad school is happening
[20:21:37] <aria> I don't understand fursuits..
[20:24:01] <bronzdragon> I do
[20:24:07] <bronzdragon> They're all warm and cuddly and fuzzy
[20:24:18] <bronzdragon> And since animals are cuter then people, they make people cute!
[20:24:20] <bronzdragon> DUH
[20:24:34] <aria> But they don't look like animals
[20:24:45] <bronzdragon> ... somewhat
[20:24:48] <bronzdragon> the idea is still there
[20:24:49] <aria> they look like freaky and derpy animal-copy-cats
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[21:12:32] <bronzdragon> yoshokatana!
[21:12:36] <bronzdragon> You're a person
[21:12:43] <yoshokatana> yes, I am
[21:12:45] <yoshokatana> what's up?
[21:13:19] <bronzdragon> Is there a word for the sound you make when you talk when you have no breath left?
[21:13:26] <bronzdragon> Without any more air, I mean?
[21:13:29] <yoshokatana> like a wheeze?
[21:13:31] <yoshokatana> sorta?
[21:13:38] <yoshokatana> or an unvoiced syllable?
[21:14:13] <ruffas> gasp
[21:14:17] <aria> Alright, so you know rock music?
[21:14:32] <aria> The type that has the dudes screaming in whispery voices
[21:14:39] <aria> as if they're running out of breath
[21:14:45] <aria> also have busted their throats
[21:15:23] <yoshokatana> screamo?
[21:15:38] <bronzdragon> hoarse, I think?
[21:15:40] <yoshokatana> I'm not sure whatit's called
[21:15:44] <yoshokatana> *what it's
[21:15:48] <bronzdragon> (I'm identifying it for Aria)
[21:16:40] <aria> This youtube says you're correct, yoshokatana
[21:16:48] <yoshokatana> :D
[21:17:18] <ruffas> why are you seeking out screamo?
[21:17:37] <bronzdragon> B'cuz game soundtracks.
[21:17:46] <aria> Because I didn't know the name of it, and Bronz pretends to have no idea what I'm talking about when I describe it as Snake being tortured
[21:17:54] <aria> oh, also DMC soundtrack
[21:18:57] <aria> Grunting seems to also be correct...
[21:22:04] <ruffas> grunting is noise snake makes
[21:22:23] <bronzdragon> ^
[22:05:20] <GauntletWizard> today's awesome
[22:05:21] <GauntletWizard> http://en.wikipedia.org
[22:06:02] <aria> So I see he's got some of them Street Figther action going on there
[22:06:42] <aria> (I'm reading up on what it actually is)
[22:07:28] <aria> Oh~
[22:07:53] <aria> Speaking of, me and Bronz missed out on our chance to meet Vint Cerf a few weeks ago
[22:08:02] <aria> Because of lazyness
[22:09:38] <GauntletWizard> that's really a shame
[22:09:42] <GauntletWizard> Vint is awesome
[22:10:01] <aria> There was a Internet Society meeting nearby we could've went to, and were planning to
[22:10:07] <aria> but then we sorta forgot about it
[22:10:38] <aria> So what kind of name is Cerf?
[22:11:57] <GauntletWizard> Darned if I know?
[22:12:11] <aria> Do you know which country he's from at least?
[22:12:16] <GauntletWizard> He's american
[22:12:21] <aria> That's not a usual American last name is it?
[22:12:25] <aria> Well not him, his family
[22:12:33] <GauntletWizard> no idea
[22:12:35] <GauntletWizard> I could ask
[22:13:13] <aria> Wait, you can just talk to him whenever? Does he work at the same office as you?
[22:14:22] <GauntletWizard> There's events on a quarterly basis where I could get a chance to hobnob, or I could just send him an e-mail
[22:14:27] <GauntletWizard> but no, I don't just see him around
[22:14:51] <aria> I see
[22:15:12] <aria> Should tell him to expand his wikipedia article
[22:15:17] <aria> Actually, it might mention it
[22:15:22] <GauntletWizard> he's rarely at the office, afaik, spends > 50% evangalizing
[22:15:50] <aria> Makes sense
[22:17:08] <bronzdragon> Hai GauntletWizard
[22:18:52] <GauntletWizard> hay
[22:19:01] <GauntletWizard> how goes, Bronz?
[22:19:55] <bronzdragon> Well
[22:20:00] <bronzdragon> I have noodles that I'm eating
[22:20:11] <bronzdragon> I was hoping for a boiled egg, but they seem to be missing
[22:21:10] <spacejam> hey who likes democracy?
[22:21:46] <bronzdragon> Actually...
[22:21:50] <bronzdragon> Democracy is kind of crappy
[22:21:57] <spacejam> athenian democracy
[22:21:59] <bronzdragon> It's the least smelliest poop.
[22:22:00] <GauntletWizard> democracy is the worst form of government
[22:22:08] <GauntletWizard> except every other one we've tried
[22:22:16] <GauntletWizard> If communism would only allow porn...
[22:22:29] <bronzdragon> athenian democracy
[22:22:35] <spacejam> ok
[22:22:36] <bronzdragon> it sounds cool, from this article
[22:22:42] <Apsupp> Why wouldn't communism allow porn?
[22:22:42] <spacejam> in that case let's try dictatorship
[22:22:43] <spacejam> vote on this
[22:22:44] <aria> Democracy is an pretty ok form of government, because at it's worst, it won't get too bad
[22:22:44] <spacejam> https://www.dropbox.com
[22:22:45] <bronzdragon> I accidentally the enter key
[22:23:14] <bronzdragon> I'm confused
[22:23:27] <spacejam> it's between three colors
[22:23:27] <bronzdragon> But... dictatorship
[22:23:29] <GauntletWizard> Democracy needs to be tempered by eugenics
[22:23:33] <spacejam> I ORDER YOU TO VOTE
[22:23:34] <bronzdragon> that means you tell us which is best.
[22:23:43] <aria> I'd say yellow and purple
[22:23:50] <GauntletWizard> Which is why I vote republican, because they support genocide
[22:23:53] <aria> But black and red is more iconic Id say
[22:24:10] <spacejam> pure democracy can be somewhat dangerous
[22:24:13] <bronzdragon> I think yellow/purple makes for the most realistic/scary demon
[22:25:01] <aria> The blue one is just silly
[22:25:09] <spacejam> why's that?
[22:25:17] <aria> Because it's too blue
[22:25:20] <aria> doesn't look like fur
[22:25:26] <aria> or skin
[22:25:28] <aria> looks like.. blue
[22:25:49] <aria> Problem with the yellow one is that the purple stripes on the face can look like clown makeup
[22:26:14] <aria> If you remove the purple line on the chin, it should be good
[22:26:15] <spacejam> anyone want to weigh in?
[22:26:48] <aria> Or if you just make the one line on the chin much more gray, that's also fine
[22:26:58] <ruffas> not the middle one
[22:27:04] <bronzdragon> I agree on the blue, but couldn't say it in non-hurtful terms
[22:27:54] <aria> So what are these?
[22:28:07] <aria> And how did you do the different colors?
[22:28:08] <spacejam> kind of mutated satyrs
[22:28:18] <aria> Well yes, I was thinking more meta
[22:28:20] <bronzdragon> I actually kinda like Black, but it loses a lot of creepyness in his eyes.
[22:28:21] <spacejam> i told an artist "do different colors"
[22:28:44] <aria> Did the artist make the original?
[22:28:48] <spacejam> yup
[22:28:55] <aria> what are they to be used for?
[22:29:01] <spacejam> family portrait
[22:29:05] <aria> ...
[22:29:09] <bronzdragon> Fair enough
[22:29:15] <aria> yeah, ok
[22:29:16] <spacejam> we're making a book
[22:29:18] <bronzdragon> So shouldn't you pick the one that's most like your aunt?
[22:29:39] <spacejam> probably not, if we want her to keep coming on thanksgiving
[22:30:12] <aria> Do you?
[22:30:12] <bronzdragon> ...
[22:30:14] <bronzdragon> Do you?
[22:30:27] <spacejam> haha
[22:30:37] <bronzdragon> Pick the one least like your aunt then!
[22:30:53] <spacejam> well she does make good apple strudel...
[22:30:53] <aria> Your aunt is probably not blue
[22:30:53] <bronzdragon> Y'know what? I think it's the background that holds Mr. yellow back
[22:31:01] <bronzdragon> The green rocks and the fuzzy purple mist.
[22:31:04] <aria> Unless she is, in which case, you should probably look into that...
[22:31:47] <aria> Yeah, I could probably make the middle on work really well if I had the PSD
[22:31:53] <aria> And yknow, photoshop =P
[22:32:01] <bronzdragon> that too!
[22:32:09] <aria> I should get photoshop
[22:32:39] <spacejam> what if we made the blue darker on the left one?
[22:32:55] <aria> Needs to be less stratured too I think
[22:33:04] <bronzdragon> Yeah, darker won't fix it
[22:33:06] <aria> But I'm failing to imagine it as marine blue for some reason
[22:33:10] <spacejam> do you make art?
[22:33:16] <bronzdragon> I think also, the problem, is that it has no contrast?
[22:33:17] <bronzdragon> Maybe?
[22:33:27] <aria> No, but I make graphic designs
[22:33:45] <spacejam> cool
[22:33:49] <spacejam> (aside: portfolio?)
[22:34:03] <aria> If I had one of those, I'd have a job
[22:34:05] <bronzdragon> Ask for his youtube channel instead
[22:34:06] <spacejam> perhaps the third one with more pop
[22:34:19] <bronzdragon> ... him holding a can of pepsi?
[22:34:21] <bronzdragon> I'd go for that
[22:34:30] <spacejam> pringles maybe
[22:34:42] <bronzdragon> Well, he does have long fingers.
[22:34:46] <aria> The blue one has plenty of contrast, Bronz
[22:34:54] <aria> what are you talking about? Its the one with the most contrast
[22:35:23] <aria> Alright, so looking at this blue one
[22:35:26] <aria> his color is bleeding
[22:36:33] <bronzdragon> Ask for a dark red, with light horns
[22:36:33] <spacejam> these were all quick thumbnails
[22:36:37] <bronzdragon> I think that could work well
[22:36:51] <bronzdragon> Or at least, dark body, light legs/horns
[22:36:54] <aria> Yes, but the bloom makes it look less convincing as fur/skin
[22:37:08] <bronzdragon> The only dark body you have is the black one, which is too dark
[22:37:11] <bronzdragon> But pretty good.
[22:37:13] <aria> Also the fact that the skin is so shiny while being so bright
[22:37:45] <aria> He's not drawn to be dark
[22:38:03] <spacejam> which one looks the most diabolical?
[22:38:07] <aria> In the dark one, you can't see the detail much
[22:38:17] <aria> Well the red and black one, obviously
[22:38:26] <bronzdragon> He looks like he's planning some shit
[22:38:32] <bronzdragon> while the yellow one looks ferral
[22:38:35] <bronzdragon> The blue one is silly
[22:38:53] <aria> The blue one is only silly because of the color bleed and brightness
[22:39:01] <aria> I will say his background looks the best though
[22:39:57] <spacejam> which one would you least like to meet in a dark alley?
[22:40:06] <aria> Ask your artist to change the bloom to orange/white like the background, and make the spikes through his arm pop out more
[22:40:15] <aria> Yellow
[22:40:25] <bronzdragon> ... yellow?
[22:41:25] <aria> Actual art is pretty good
[22:41:44] <aria> I really like the blue guy's background
[22:41:51] <spacejam> agreed
[22:41:54] <aria> and the shadowing is well done
[22:42:16] <aria> he also knows how to use bloom, but your request for different colours seems to have thrown him off
[22:42:32] <spacejam> i'm thinking the yellow one could be made with more of a contrast/interesting background
[22:42:38] <aria> If you ask him to make the bloom the color of the enviornmental light, it'll look much less silly
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[22:43:02] <aria> and the spikes really need to have less bloom over them. They're also transparent a bit
[22:43:50] <spacejam> can't focus on that part yet
[22:43:54] <spacejam> gotta figure out which scheme to go with
[22:44:46] <aria> What I said is pretty quick and the change will apply to all three
[22:45:05] <aria> It'll make blue look less silly and will make it a fair comparison
[22:45:17] <aria> I personally like the yellow/purple
[22:45:44] <aria> Not the face though
[22:46:09] <spacejam> so
[22:46:20] <spacejam> "Could you make the bloom the color of the environmental light?"
[22:46:41] <aria> Right, so you see how there's a bit of colour bleed on his right hand?
[22:46:46] <aria> Its the same colour as the skin
[22:46:53] <aria> it's supposed to be reflected light
[22:46:59] <aria> so it should be the same colour as the background
[22:47:22] <spacejam> it does seem yellowish though, like the ambient light
[22:48:17] <aria> There's also some on his right shoulder
[22:48:35] <aria> If that wasn't there, the skin would be much more convincing
[22:48:43] <spacejam> the guy on the left?
[22:48:48] <aria> Yeah
[22:48:58] <spacejam> hmmm
[22:49:08] <spacejam> i'm not quite seeing it
[22:49:54] <bronzdragon> His left?
[22:49:59] <bronzdragon> Between his knuckles?
[22:50:00] <spacejam> oh
[22:50:07] <aria> Oh yes sorry
[22:50:08] <bronzdragon> Also, left of his left horn
[22:50:11] <aria> right side of the screen
[22:50:17] <bronzdragon> Well, right of his left horn
[22:50:18] <aria> his left side
[22:50:32] <spacejam> so the right side of the picture
[22:50:34] <spacejam> has a blue glow, yeah
[22:50:50] <spacejam> near his knuckles
[22:50:51] <spacejam> that what you mean?
[22:50:55] <aria> Yeah
[22:51:02] <aria> It's actually all over him
[22:51:09] <aria> but that's the most obivous place
[22:51:18] <spacejam> so
[22:51:30] <spacejam> change the bloom on his skin to match the color of the environmental light?
[22:51:37] <spacejam> i'm just going to copy and paste that
[22:51:43] <aria> Sure
[22:53:00] <spacejam> and this is a quick change?
[22:53:13] <aria> If it's done the way I think, just dragging a slider
[22:53:40] <spacejam> so i'm leaning towards #1 or #2, but #2 needs a stronger background i think
[22:53:42] <spacejam> thoughts?
[22:54:05] <aria> Yeah I agree. The background for 2 is pretty bad
[22:54:13] <aria> and the skin for #1 looks way fake
[22:54:19] <aria> So you can't compare them fairly
[22:54:33] <spacejam> ok
[22:54:41] <aria> How it looks now, I'd go for yellow, but blue might look better with minor tweaks
[22:54:51] <spacejam> i'll go back with that and hopefully it's a quick change
[22:54:59] <spacejam> i don't want to start working on multiple compositions too hard
[22:55:10] <spacejam> i don't want someone else to*
[22:55:19] <aria> You can't just talk to him through IM?
[22:55:38] <spacejam> not typically, they aren't online
[22:55:39] <spacejam> i can call
[22:55:40] <aria> Do you have the projecct file?
[22:55:46] <aria> Oh its a firm?
[22:55:50] <spacejam> no, just finals
[22:55:51] <spacejam> no, individual
[22:56:18] <aria> multiple individuals?
[22:56:20] <aria> Alright
[22:56:32] <aria> We should hire them for our game...
[22:56:39] <spacejam> you have a game?
[22:56:46] <aria> Not yet I don't!
[22:56:56] <spacejam> :P you need other people too
[22:57:13] <aria> Nah, we have the modeling and programming skills required
[22:57:22] <aria> But we don't have the 2D skills required
[22:57:29] <aria> which is fine for most of it
[22:57:32] <spacejam> what kind of game?
[22:57:53] <aria> Racing, but we're toying around with an FPS type thing that will be much faster to prototype
[22:58:00] <aria> although a bunch of work on the racing one though..
[22:58:14] <spacejam> oh how far is it?
[22:58:20] <aria> I dunno, like 1%?
[22:58:33] <bronzdragon> ...
[22:58:38] <bronzdragon> does planning count?
[22:58:46] <aria> We've got like 30 cars
[22:58:51] <bronzdragon> True...
[22:59:05] <spacejam> lol
[23:00:26] <aria> It's not very far along, but we've done a lot of planning, and we've made a /bunch/ of cars
[23:00:39] <spacejam> what's the concept?
[23:00:52] <aria> Racing.
[23:00:59] <aria> It's long..
[23:01:05] <spacejam> long racing
[23:01:14] <aria> Well no, explaining it is long
[23:01:26] <spacejam> then it's too long!
[23:01:31] <spacejam> i'm going to quote the book on my table
[23:01:36] <aria> Racing where you don't struggle with the controls
[23:02:36] <spacejam> if i can find the quote
[23:03:15] <spacejam> As is well known by those who have tried to pitch their game to a publisher, if you can't sum up your game in two sentences, you don't have a game.
[23:03:40] <aria> Eh that's fine
[23:03:43] <spacejam> dunno if i necessarily agree but it's said by someone with more experience than me who wrote a book's worth of material on the subject
[23:03:49] <aria> we'll be able to sum it up after having a prototype
[23:05:01] <aria> The game is just a f-zero type racing game
[23:05:09] <aria> Nothing sets it apart. We just wanna do it really well
[23:05:09] <spacejam> ahh
[23:05:14] <spacejam> ooh
[23:05:17] <spacejam> that's
[23:05:17] <spacejam> different
[23:05:25] <spacejam> in its not-difference
[23:05:39] <spacejam> i only know f-zero from smash
[23:05:57] <aria> We do have a lot of neat mechanics I'd love to show you, but they haven't been implemented yet, so I'll not make a fool out of myself =P
[23:06:07] <spacejam> i wonder what would happen if companies could bid to get their IP on smash brothers
[23:06:19] <spacejam> and you could have a fight with pillsbury dough boy
[23:06:44] <aria> According to the Smash-dev blog, they were only approached twice
[23:06:50] <aria> by third parties I mean
[23:06:56] <spacejam> who were they?
[23:07:04] <aria> Sega and KojiPro
[23:07:38] <aria> Sega for Sonic, and KojiPro for "hey can I watch you work?"
[23:08:11] <aria> Snake, Gray Fox and a Metal Gear stage made it in as a result of that
[23:08:28] <aria> I suppose Sonic also got a stage and an assist trophy
[23:09:10] <ruffas> http://pornsfw.com
[23:09:10] <aria> Hey, the FPS thing I could totally pitch in an sentence
[23:09:18] <spacejam> for #2 should i just say can we make the background more vibrant like #1?
[23:09:23] <spacejam> what's the sentence?
[23:09:49] <aria> I didn't actually think up one. I just meant to note that it wasn't just a "hey let's copy X"
[23:10:17] <aria> I'm not sure, spacejam. All I can tell you is it needs to be better =P
[23:10:42] <aria> Well, for starters
[23:10:47] <aria> a lot of the detail is barely visible
[23:11:09] <aria> and the purple and white aren't as differanciated
[23:11:13] <aria> (I can't spell, excuse me)
[23:11:22] <spacejam> oh ok
[23:11:29] <spacejam> hmmm
[23:11:41] <aria> Fog also doesn't look like it's being lit up enough compared to the amount of light
[23:11:54] <aria> I think having a darker puple and a brighter white light would work well
[23:12:03] <aria> and toning down the green in the foreground
[23:12:04] <spacejam> did the bloom suggestion apply to both?
[23:12:10] <aria> Just ask the artist, they'll know better
[23:12:15] <aria> All three
[23:12:18] <spacejam> ok
[23:12:22] <aria> Mostly blue
[23:12:24] <bronzdragon> Best one; http://pornsfw.com
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[23:13:51] <spacejam> uh oh
[23:13:55] <spacejam> we're not on vervet
[23:14:00] <spacejam> ?
[23:15:57] <bronzdragon> What does that mean?
[23:16:24] <spacejam> i got a notice that "vervet02.foonetic.net and services will be going down briefly for a hardware upgrade. We will be back shortly.01"
[23:16:26] <aria> This is a pretty good website
[23:16:37] <aria> I see
[23:16:52] <aria> You're on naos
[23:17:08] <aria> Bronz is on vervet
[23:17:51] <aria> I'm on Daemonic, so there ya go
[23:17:59] <aria> Bronz, switch server
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[23:21:16] <bronzdragon> hai
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[23:21:52] <bronzdragon> Hai hai
[23:22:11] <spacejam> haha
[23:22:17] <spacejam> the great vervet purge
[23:22:40] <bronzdragon> Truly
[23:22:47] <bronzdragon> All Vervets must DIE
[23:23:06] <aria> For the yellow one, I think more texture in the purple spots would help a lot
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[23:23:52] <aria> So how much did you pay for this picture?
[23:24:29] <spacejam> not saying
[23:24:37] <aria> =P
[23:24:49] <aria> Thats fair
[23:30:13] <spacejam> i don't have a big shot budget, so fortunately it was reasonable
[23:30:31] <spacejam> if you do end up looking for artists, i accumulated a portfolio of places to look when i was searching
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[23:32:23] <aria> Aha? Willing to share?
[23:33:11] <aria> Alucard's head is tiny. Or his hands are giant, I'm not sure which
[23:33:54] <spacejam> if you happen to need that exact style of art we can talk
[23:34:23] <spacejam> though i suspect you'll want somethign a little different, and there are great artists for those too
[23:34:35] <aria> Mmm, I don't for the moment, but can see myself needing it in the near future. I've been mostly looking on Pixiv
[23:35:34] <spacejam> oh that's cool
[23:35:43] <spacejam> leans japanese it seems
[23:36:05] <aria> Pixiv? Almost only Japanese artists on there
[23:36:26] <spacejam> i did actually, while looking, find that anime and manga in general seem to be the most common art currently being currencied
[23:37:30] <aria> We have a Japan-lore gimmick going for the racing game, so a Japanese artist would be fitting
[23:38:11] <bronzdragon> Also, I'd like the foot to be in classic japanese stule
[23:38:16] <bronzdragon> *style
[23:38:22] <spacejam> foot?
[23:38:34] <spacejam> classic as in classical, with ink and pen?
[23:38:50] <aria> He's reffering to a specific car you wouldn't have any way of knowing of
[23:39:11] <aria> and classic as sangoku to edo-period
[23:39:26] <aria> It's a truck basically
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[23:39:54] <bronzdragon> Peka!
[23:40:14] <aria> with 3 images
[23:40:18] <aria> eh--
[23:40:24] <aria> with 3 drawings on the car
[23:40:27] <aria> from 3 different angles
[23:40:34] <aria> one on the back, and one on either side
[23:40:56] <aria> it's a drawing of a living room with a giant foot stomping through the ceiling
[23:41:57] <aria> It's hard to explain, it'll hopefully be funny..
[23:42:26] <spacejam> haha
[23:44:16] <bronzdragon> Ashiarai Yashiki
[23:44:55] <bronzdragon> http://villains.wikia.com
[23:44:59] <bronzdragon> (because not on wikipedia
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[23:47:04] <spacejam> haha
[23:47:10] <spacejam> i can't believe that's not art vandalism
[23:47:45] <bronzdragon> ...?
[23:48:13] <spacejam> it looks like many japanese paintings i've seen
[23:48:14] <spacejam> then, giant foot
[23:51:12] <yoshokatana> jeez
[23:51:37] <yoshokatana> this vice documentary about krokodil is really depressing
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[23:59:09] <ruffas> glad to see the foot monster's still up in
[23:59:18] <ruffas> how's the game coming btw?