#geeknights | Logs for 2012-11-14

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[00:00:17] <aria> Rawr
[00:02:21] <aria> Sheesh
[00:02:26] <aria> I went for a backstab with this dude
[00:02:48] <aria> Wouldn't have if he just bowed and waited 2 seconds before spamming soul mass
[00:02:59] <aria> but hey, one hit ko's are nice
[00:03:45] <bronzdragon> Wait, you don't like backstabs in general?
[00:03:54] <bronzdragon> I always go for (and fail to deliver on) backstabs
[00:04:09] <aria> Oh, nah, if someone is showing their back, backstab the fuck out of them
[00:04:27] <aria> But I walked around this dude so I could kill him easier this time
[00:05:14] <aria> Like, he was circle strafing me, so I went the opposite direction and positioned myself behind him, rather than try to punch him with my giant bone
[00:05:35] <bronzdragon> ... why does Enslaved make you pick Gamma options in the menu which is a brightly light screen in a dark room?
[00:05:40] <bronzdragon> I can't tell if these are good...
[00:06:02] <aria> x) Because Ninja Theory are a terrible great of people and should not have been handed the rights to DMC
[00:07:08] <bronzdragon> Listen lady, don't "Hurry up" and "Let's go
[00:07:15] <bronzdragon> " me! It's annoying
[00:07:42] <bronzdragon> Oh, good, I can access the gamma options in game!
[00:07:51] <bronzdragon> I can use the actual in game graphics to set my gamma!
[00:07:58] <bronzdragon> wait.. when I pause, the screen darkens?
[00:08:01] <bronzdragon> Whaaaaaat?
[00:08:03] <bronzdragon> >__>
[00:08:15] <aria> This is not the first game to do that
[00:08:37] <bronzdragon> Usually, they have some sort of filler image "If you can see this logo, you're good"
[00:08:44] <aria> Yeah...
[00:08:53] <aria> You're expecting too much me thinks
[00:08:58] <bronzdragon> imma grab some stuff to put in my mouth
[00:09:05] <bronzdragon> Cya in a bit
[00:09:23] <aria> Kai
[00:12:47] <aria> Fuckin' jerk...
[00:13:10] <aria> I got invaded by a dude who wrath of the gods spammed me with terrible lag
[00:13:13] <aria> and then lag stabbed me
[00:21:38] <aria> Yo gravelord man, do you want me to fight you or not? Where the fuck is your sign?
[00:24:16] <nine> Fuck WotG spam.
[00:24:26] <nine> Though you can just roll through it.
[00:24:37] <nine> Midroll through it if you just wanna spam roll.
[00:24:52] <aria> The problem was the lag
[00:24:59] <aria> I was well outside of the range
[00:25:01] <aria> By quite a bit
[00:25:28] <aria> when I saw him hit me from accross the room, I started trying to dodge them, even when there wasn't any possible way for it to reach me
[00:25:32] <aria> But I still got hit
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[00:28:29] <aria> hi
[00:30:02] <ruffas> howdy
[00:30:07] <aria> So this dude "Emoslayer##" invaded me
[00:30:14] <aria> did the "Come at me bro" gesture
[00:30:22] <aria> giant artorias greatshield
[00:30:25] <aria> probably his sword too
[00:30:42] <aria> Power within
[00:31:17] <aria> Swings at me while I backstep and he misses. Then I just destory him in 2 hits. Felt good man =P
[00:33:12] <ruffas> ?
[00:33:16] <ruffas> more dark souls?
[00:33:20] <aria> Yes
[00:33:24] <aria> PvP this time
[00:33:28] <aria> Its been fun so far
[00:33:41] <aria> Now that I have some health, its a lot easier =P
[00:33:46] <aria> before I had to never get hit
[00:34:00] <aria> But because lag, sometimes the game gives you half-damage even when you didn't get hit
[00:34:10] <aria> Now I have so much health I can survive a backstab!
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[00:37:12] <ruffas> grats
[00:39:22] <aria> Well that match went terribly =P
[00:39:40] <aria> He basically destoryed me =P I got 1 goot hit, but it didn't even take a third of his health
[00:41:34] <aria> Yey, I killed him this time
[00:44:02] <ruffas> dodge more
[00:44:06] <ruffas> or less
[00:44:10] <ruffas> (as applicable)
[00:44:19] <aria> Less probably
[00:44:29] <aria> But.. I think if I do that, Ill be hit.. =P
[00:45:16] <bronzdragon> ruffas
[00:45:18] <bronzdragon> !
[00:45:55] <bronzdragon> (Aria!)
[00:47:08] <aria> The same dude invaded me back. He killed me while I was down. I thought if you didn't touch it, you'd be fine
[00:47:15] <aria> Oh right, that was just against chainbackstabs
[00:47:18] <aria> Aw well
[00:47:18] <aria> he won fair
[00:48:07] <ruffas> what up bronz
[00:48:14] <aria> Got really close though..
[00:49:20] <bronzdragon> I'm having a touching moment with this lady.
[00:49:25] <bronzdragon> It's almost as if we're friends
[00:49:47] <bronzdragon> That is, if she didn't try to kill me thrice, and put a murder collar on me that could explode any second
[00:49:58] <bronzdragon> (and has the abillity to take off_
[00:50:33] <bronzdragon> I'm trying to catch a dragonfly, but she keeps hassling me!
[00:50:46] <aria> You're that early in the game?
[00:51:05] <ruffas> journey to the west the game?
[00:51:10] <aria> Yeah
[00:51:30] <aria> Also known as slavery the game with pretty post apocalytpic scenes and bad combat
[00:51:34] <bronzdragon> ...
[00:51:45] <bronzdragon> I lost the thread of what I was doing
[00:51:49] <bronzdragon> I'm on the ground...
[00:52:04] <bronzdragon> Also, this music is pretty non-subtly trying to tell me how to feel
[00:52:07] <bronzdragon> And I resent it for it
[00:52:29] <aria> Everything about the game but the driving segments and climbing as bad =P
[00:53:27] <ruffas> needs more buddha
[00:54:40] <aria> aww
[00:54:56] <aria> I lost pretty badly to this dude who Ive already lost to twice and only won against once!
[00:54:57] <ruffas> but not the movie
[00:55:01] <ruffas> that was pretty bad
[00:55:13] <aria> the first 3 matches were pretty even
[00:55:13] <bronzdragon> Again, MURDER BAND
[00:57:28] <ruffas> lag death?
[00:57:52] <bronzdragon> ... c'mon, at least let me run through the mines...
[00:57:57] <bronzdragon> It's making you walk
[00:58:01] <bronzdragon> I can walk, y'know
[00:58:04] <bronzdragon> At least darksouls did this right
[00:58:23] <bronzdragon> When there was a minefield, there's at least a chance you'll die
[00:58:36] <aria> =/
[00:58:48] <aria> I guess this dude is better than me. I keep hitting him on my screen
[00:59:02] <aria> but Im sure he hits me more on his screen than he does on mine too
[01:00:27] <bronzdragon> C'mon! Let me jump down there!
[01:00:32] <bronzdragon> ... I don't understand how you played this game
[01:00:38] <bronzdragon> Usually you sound like I do now...
[01:04:45] <bronzdragon> C'moooon, run faster!
[01:04:52] <aria> =P
[01:06:07] <ruffas> use more pew pew bronz
[01:07:24] <bronzdragon> C'MON
[01:07:26] <bronzdragon> WHAT THE FUCK
[01:07:35] <bronzdragon> so cutscene of her slipping, right?
[01:07:45] <bronzdragon> during it, my character if frozen
[01:07:57] <bronzdragon> I try to get to her ASAP, I couldn't go faster...
[01:08:03] <bronzdragon> Because I want this game to move more
[01:08:14] <bronzdragon> But then she slips and falls, before I get control back
[01:08:19] <bronzdragon> Checkpoint restart
[01:16:25] <bronzdragon> TELL HER MONKEY
[01:19:42] <aria> Enjoying it dragon =P?
[01:19:46] <bronzdragon> ...
[01:19:55] <bronzdragon> Why can't I call for decoy AFTER it sees me?
[01:26:22] <Apsup> I've been lately watching a lot more of western caroons rather than anime and I've just relized how depressing it can be.
[01:27:12] <Apsup> Anime lasts x seasons and in the end it reaches some kind of conclusion for the story the end. Western show lasts season or two gets canceled and all plot threads are left hangning forever.
[01:28:05] <bronzdragon> ... that is not the same thing, lady
[01:28:34] <aria> Yeah its very rare for western shows to reach an conclusion
[01:29:55] <aria> Pvp pays well. I have 400k currently
[01:32:36] <ruffas> lots of western shows conclude
[01:32:40] <ruffas> like lost
[01:32:49] <aria> I thought of lost
[01:32:50] <ruffas> that concluded so well
[01:32:54] <aria> but then I couldn't think of much else
[01:33:12] <okeefe> Wait, Western as in Cowboys or Western as civilization?
[01:33:26] <aria> Western as in, not made in Asia
[01:33:32] <bronzdragon> ... what do I do with this demolition mech?
[01:33:34] <bronzdragon> Just punch it?
[01:33:35] <okeefe> So the latter.
[01:33:39] <ruffas> yes
[01:33:43] <aria> Yes
[01:33:46] <aria> Punch most things
[01:34:41] <bronzdragon> But it cheats
[01:34:42] <Apsup> ruffas: Lost was not a cartoon. Also hahahahahahaahahaaahaha.
[01:41:22] <aria> Ugh
[01:41:24] <aria> Invaded an hacker
[01:41:37] <aria> he was trying to get past the dragon
[01:41:44] <aria> I was telling him to do the plunge
[01:41:53] <aria> but he kept his shield up and was a pussy
[01:42:02] <aria> after he hit me like twince, I started hitting back
[01:42:25] <aria> apperantly 10k damage is barely 1/10th of his health. Why do you even keep your shield up dude?
[01:43:17] <aria> (1000hp is a lot. You get that if you level your health a bunch)
[01:43:59] <ruffas> that it wasn't
[01:44:22] <ruffas> western cartoons are mostly episodic though
[01:44:35] <ruffas> so they're easy to cancel once they're no longer popular
[01:44:45] <Apsup> There is still overarching plot elements and when those are not resolved, sadness.
[01:44:52] <ruffas> sometimes
[01:45:08] <Apsup> Also if shows good even when episodic one wants more episodes.
[01:46:57] <ruffas> let's take MLP and Nichijou; both are episodic, no real overarching plot
[01:47:21] <ruffas> both could go on ad infinitum given decent writing
[01:47:54] <ruffas> or Justice League and Cowboy Bebop, mostly episodic with some plot thrown in
[01:48:28] <bronzdragon> It's as if this game took every lesson Alex Vaun taught us...
[01:48:32] <bronzdragon> And then did the opposite
[01:49:25] <Apsup> What I thnk are shows like Samurai Jack or Symbionic Titan, usually featuring ultimate goal for the hero (beat the big bad usually) and every episode is a tiny sturggle or step fovard to reach this goal.
[01:49:54] <Apsup> <
[01:50:35] <Apsup> Because the episodes are individual things happening between the beginning and the goal show can run episodicly until it dies, but then the goal is left hanging.
[01:50:42] <aria> You don't sound too happy about that game, Bronz
[01:52:24] <bronzdragon> FMV!
[01:52:26] <bronzdragon> =D
[01:52:26] <ruffas> i agree apsup
[01:52:33] <bronzdragon> This makes everything okay
[01:52:38] <bronzdragon> Well...
[01:52:41] <ruffas> just trying to play devil's advocate
[01:52:44] <bronzdragon> I'm usually not a vengeful dick...
[01:52:50] <bronzdragon> But, again, she tried to murder me
[01:53:00] <bronzdragon> TRICE
[01:53:05] <ruffas> only a little
[01:53:06] <bronzdragon> Four times if you count the ungoing one
[01:53:11] <ruffas> just a small murder
[01:53:46] <bronzdragon> I'd be fine if she said she was sorry...
[01:53:55] <bronzdragon> But she never apoligized for trying to murder me
[01:54:05] <bronzdragon> NOR IS SHE STOPPING TRYING TO MURDER ME
[02:01:37] <aria> She thought you liked murder!
[02:10:47] <bronzdragon> I think I'm done for today
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[02:12:58] <bronzdragon> Imma go upstairs an close my eyes for a bit
[02:13:05] <bronzdragon> Perhaps tomorrow I'll open them again
[02:13:07] <aria> =(
[02:14:46] <bronzdragon> Good night, all y'all
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[02:15:12] <nine> < bronzdragon> Perhaps tomorrow I'll open them again
[02:15:13] <nine> Wut.
[02:15:22] <nine> He's gonna sleep for 21 hours?
[02:15:33] <aria> He does that
[02:15:52] <nine> Lunacy.
[02:15:58] <nine> Even I can't stay in bed that long.
[02:16:29] <aria> I can stay in bed for a long time when sexy times are involved
[02:16:32] <ruffas> you're not trying hard enough
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[02:29:17] <aria> So does anyone in here have xbawks with gold and wouldn't mind Dark Souling with me?
[02:30:18] <Bronz-AFK> Hai
[02:30:21] Bronz-AFK is now known as Bronzdragon
[02:30:29] <Bronzdragon> (Note, hi does not mean yes)
[02:30:48] <aria> ...
[02:30:51] <aria> you're alive!
[02:30:55] <Bronzdragon> I will clean my fangs, then retire
[02:31:04] <Bronzdragon> yeah, moving all my shit takes a while =P
[02:32:42] <aria> Oh..
[02:32:46] <aria> Fair enough
[02:33:49] <Bronzdragon> ... did I get you excited?
[02:33:52] <Bronzdragon> I'm sorry =(
[02:33:56] <aria> Being nice in this game does not work
[02:34:00] <aria> Kinda
[02:34:02] <aria> But don't worry
[02:34:03] <aria> Good night
[02:34:08] <Bronzdragon> *kiss*
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[02:45:46] <ruffas> stop being nice
[02:45:49] <ruffas> kill harder
[02:46:03] <aria> My youtube: "*Does 3 drop plunges and a two handed swing* One-shotted!!" =P
[02:47:07] <aria> I actually don't lose that often
[02:47:30] <aria> But every time I get close to losing, its because I tried to be nice
[02:47:32] <nine> < Bronzdragon> *kiss*
[02:47:36] <nine> EWWW GROSS, DISGUSTING.
[02:47:38] <nine> D:
[02:47:47] <aria> you don't like kisses, Nine?
[02:48:07] <nine> Bronz is a boy.
[02:48:12] <nine> I don't like kisses from a boy.
[02:48:18] <aria> You don't like boys, Nine?
[02:48:27] <okeefe> OH NOES, TEH GAY.
[02:48:31] <nine> I only accept manly Christian side-hugs.
[02:49:01] <nine> http://25.media.tumblr.com
[02:49:09] <nine> Much laughter.
[02:50:47] <ruffas> an old roommate used to think it was "prairie dog city"
[03:18:08] <nine> Wut.
[03:18:19] <nine> How is that even possible.
[03:18:33] <aria> Aw cmon...
[03:18:47] <aria> I got parried to death even though I was totally doing well
[03:26:32] <ruffas> suck less?
[03:26:35] <ruffas> dodge more?
[03:26:51] <aria> Hey I won a 2v1!
[03:26:55] <aria> One dude was really good
[03:27:00] <aria> other dude not so much
[03:28:45] <ruffas> that's cool!
[03:29:47] <aria> Bullshit I was not in range for a backstab there!
[03:34:51] <ruffas> T_T
[03:44:54] <aria> Pirscillas tail is hard to get..
[03:54:07] <ruffas> is she not queen of the desert?
[03:55:52] <aria> No, she's queen of..
[03:56:03] <aria> this fucked up painting Im in
[03:56:46] <ruffas> ?
[03:57:11] <ruffas> oh, not priscilla
[03:58:11] <aria> fuck is that bullshit? Neither of you were in backstab range
[03:58:26] <ruffas> QQ
[03:58:32] <aria> So I get summoned into the world of two dudes
[03:58:37] <aria> I figure Ill do it legit
[03:58:44] <aria> then I see them kill and invader and do the "come at me bro"
[03:58:53] <aria> So no way they're fighting fair
[03:58:57] <aria> I go for a backstab
[03:59:05] <aria> Im totally behind the dudes back, doesn't work
[03:59:18] <aria> then they backstab me from 3 meters in front of me
[04:00:48] <ruffas> sounds like you're not backstabbing hard enough
[04:03:08] <aria> Nine, you're good at cheating in DkS. How do you go from having your guard broken to being behind me and backstabbing?
[04:03:21] <aria> guard being broken is calculated on HIS side!
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[04:20:31] <aria> So what are you guys up to?
[04:25:16] <okeefe> I am about to have some dessert and read an RPG.
[04:25:25] <aria> I like the idea of rpgs!
[04:27:15] <pence> well lucky you
[04:27:18] <pence> the new episode is about burning con!
[04:27:32] <aria> New episode of what?
[04:27:39] <aria> Oh geeknights?
[04:27:43] <pence> yeah
[04:27:49] <aria> I kinda really dislike the contalk =P
[04:27:54] <aria> Its 60% of every episode
[04:28:00] <aria> and its almost always the exact same lines
[04:36:40] <okeefe> Weird, download of the new episode seems really slow.
[04:37:30] <aria> They're all slow. its the host they're using
[04:43:12] <okeefe> Oh wow, it's an hour and a half.
[04:43:20] <aria> Ok its not that slow...
[04:44:38] <aria> The first like 30 seconds of this are excellent http://youtu.be
[04:44:45] <aria> Albit loud
[04:46:54] <nine> "Nine, you're good at cheating in DkS." Am I? Wut? Who decided that?
[04:47:11] <aria> You play on PC, you have to be!
[04:47:14] <nine> Also, you sure it gets calculated on his side?
[04:47:27] <nine> Because he'd need to know he hit first.
[04:47:45] <nine> And Miss Priss's tail is easy to get.
[04:48:34] <nine> Wut?
[04:48:58] <nine> Is the console peasant trying to insult the PC master race out of spite now?
[04:49:03] <nine> Poor peasant.
[04:49:32] <nine> I shall tell the whip to reduce your whippage by one today.
[04:49:40] <nine> I am magnanimous like that.
[04:51:30] <aria> Hey, Im not the one who gives myself chaos weapons for the burg.
[04:51:44] <aria> it would make sense for your stamina to be calculated on your side, but I might be wrong
[04:51:47] <aria> How do you get her tail?
[04:51:53] <aria> She always dies first when I try..
[04:51:57] <nine> By chopping it off.
[04:51:57] <nine> Duh.
[04:52:16] <nine> And you can get chaos weapons before ever going to the Undead Burg.
[04:52:26] <nine> I just did the equivalent of the BB glitch on consoles.
[04:53:18] <aria> Thats also bad! =P Unless you're gonna do a pvp character and want to be 120 as quick as possible or something
[04:53:20] <nine> Just take a step back when attacking her tail.
[04:53:31] <nine> Hitting the base doesn't deal damage to the tail.
[04:53:39] <nine> Tip is always better to aim for.
[04:53:49] <aria> She turns around a bunch
[04:53:55] <aria> you accidentally hit her when going for the tail
[04:54:01] <aria> Maybe my weapon is just too fat..
[04:54:14] <nine> No. You just suck.
[04:54:18] <nine> Did you poison her?
[04:54:37] <aria> Why would I posion her?
[04:54:39] <nine> Poison mist and toxic mist work on her when invis.
[04:54:47] <nine> So you can keep track of her that way.
[04:54:57] <aria> Just throw a knife in her
[04:55:02] <nine> And that makes it a lot easier to just dodge her shenanigans and touch that fluffy tail.
[04:55:17] <nine> That also works, but those disappear too fast.
[04:55:33] <nine> Unless you stagger her reliably without dealing tons of damage.
[04:56:34] <nine> I agree it can be tricky to get, but if you just hit her tail all is well.
[04:56:55] <nine> Easily done by just being one step further back.
[04:57:10] <nine> Also helps if you have someone to distract her.
[04:57:58] <aria> What kind of weapon do you use?
[04:59:37] <nine> For Priss?
[04:59:42] <aria> Yeah
[04:59:46] <nine> I've used every class of sword.
[04:59:47] <aria> well, that run in general
[05:00:08] <nine> Greatswords, ultra greatsword, thrusting, straight, you name it.
[05:00:15] <nine> Daggers not though.
[05:00:19] <nine> Would probably be too easy.
[05:00:28] <nine> But you'd have to get a dagger that doesn't bleed.
[05:00:53] <aria> is that how you say "I used a dagger but I accidentally made her bleed"?
[05:02:21] <nine> No.
[05:02:36] <aria> Sure dude =P
[05:02:37] <nine> I haven't used any daggers on her yet.
[05:03:08] <nine> I've only ever used the ghost blade, bandit's dagger and pris's dagger.
[05:03:14] <nine> Ghostblade is shit as a dagger.
[05:03:18] <nine> The other two bleed.
[05:03:27] <nine> Know jack shit 'bout the other daggers.
[05:03:38] <nine> Oh yeah... parrying dagger is a thing.
[05:03:46] <nine> I've used that, but only for parrying.
[05:04:50] <nine> But yeah, I've used every other class of blade on her and it doesn't matter that much.
[05:05:06] <nine> Stagger her and do as I say. Stay the fuck back when attacking so you only hit the tip of her tail.
[05:05:10] <nine> Then it gets cut easily.
[05:05:54] <aria> =/
[05:06:00] <aria> I cut it 1 out of 3 times I tried
[05:06:07] <aria> But I guess I was pretty close to her...
[05:06:50] <nine> It's a tiny tail.
[05:06:56] <nine> That's the tricky part.
[05:07:19] <nine> You'd better have cut Seath's tail every time you tried.
[05:07:53] <aria> Oh fuck off. Dude had a phantom
[05:07:54] <nine> hrm, now I'm not sure which ghost blade I've dicked about with.
[05:07:57] <nine> Might be jagged one.
[05:08:05] <aria> I killed his phantom, did more damage to him than 100% of his health (he healed)
[05:08:08] <nine> Dark Anal Rodeos?
[05:08:14] <aria> and then he does the "come at me bro" when I lost
[05:08:18] <aria> Yeah
[05:08:27] <nine> Impressed.
[05:08:33] <nine> How much damage did you do?
[05:08:36] <nine> What you rolling with?
[05:09:01] <aria> like 1400, dragon greatsword
[05:09:19] <nine> Use your Black Crystal when you arrive in Dark Anal. People there are fucking dickbags.
[05:09:40] <nine> Oh yeah.
[05:09:42] <nine> You said that.
[05:09:45] <nine> gj gj
[05:09:50] <nine> You're wearing pants now, right?
[05:09:58] <aria> Yeah, full outfit
[05:10:05] <aria> Well, "full"
[05:10:12] <aria> my sword is 24 weight, the rest is 10
[05:10:16] <nine> Also, I lied.
[05:10:24] <nine> I haven't used curved greatswords against Priss.
[05:10:29] <nine> Nobody should.
[05:10:32] <nine> Because they are crap.
[05:10:48] <nine> Holy trousers is all you needed.
[05:10:53] <nine> And maybe some gloves.
[05:11:05] <aria> I put the ring on on purpose. He stayed back at first and the phantom went after me. So I figured he was gonna let the phantom fight me fair, and then if I won, he'd fight me afterwards, as you do
[05:11:38] <aria> But nope, as soon as I bow, he starts sprinting towards me
[05:12:29] <nine> Fuck bowing.
[05:12:31] <nine> You're invading.
[05:12:39] <aria> Blue phantom
[05:12:42] <aria> not red
[05:12:43] <nine> Yes.
[05:12:44] <aria> I can bow
[05:12:51] <nine> INVADING AS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE.
[05:12:55] <nine> SEE THE FIRST WORD?
[05:13:11] <aria> Of course. I have a warrent
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[05:13:13] <aria> I'm the fucking law
[05:13:13] <nine> Fuck invading spirits bowing.
[05:13:25] <nine> If I don't feel like putting up with their crap I'm not gonna bow back.
[05:13:34] <nine> I'm just gonna move after half the animation is done.
[05:13:44] <nine> Often that results in nothing, but it keeps them on their toes.
[05:14:13] <nine> Also, my club is fucking amazing.
[05:14:22] <nine> It's a table leg, and it deals over 200 damage.
[05:14:27] <nine> 2-shots Stone Guardians.
[05:14:33] <nine> Like seriously, wut.
[05:14:42] <nine> Best fucking table leg I ever bought.
[05:14:48] <aria> =P
[05:14:50] <nine> And I can cast magic weapon on it.
[05:14:56] <nine> Making it an icicle.
[05:15:05] <nine> Or glowing light-blue dildo.
[05:15:19] <nine> Adding a whopping... 10 or 20 damage.
[05:15:22] <nine> I'm not really smart.
[05:15:27] <aria> I use power within on this character. Haven't done that before. it does more self damage then expected
[05:16:13] <nine> Pyroflame level?
[05:16:19] <aria> 0
[05:16:34] <nine> Yeah, it deals a lotta damage.
[05:16:54] <nine> Percentage based though, so if you have no vit you can offset the drain with Sanctus.
[05:18:22] <aria> Hrm..
[05:18:30] <aria> Shame this is also the character with all the vit =P
[05:18:41] <aria> Also I almost lost to a troll character =P
[05:18:55] <aria> I mean, he had a flame burr-- the sword with the curves +10
[05:19:05] <aria> and I also basically do not have def
[05:19:24] <aria> but still, he made his character look funny, so you extra don't wanna lose, even if you don't have an advantage
[05:19:29] <aria> luckily I didn't lose =P
[05:19:34] <nine> Flame burrito?
[05:19:39] <nine> Flamberge.
[05:19:45] <aria> Flamberge, that
[05:19:49] <nine> How is that a troll character?
[05:20:03] <aria> He had purple hair and a long nose and such
[05:20:08] <nine> So?
[05:20:15] <aria> also no shirt
[05:20:37] <aria> He wasn't using bad equipment, his face was just funny
[05:20:44] <aria> I bet he was doing a youtube complication =P
[05:25:42] <aria> There.
[05:25:57] <aria> I killed the dude who had a phantom help him earlier
[05:26:02] <aria> He got invaded mid fight
[05:26:06] <aria> so I also killed a red phantom
[05:27:55] <nine> I'm impressed.
[05:27:57] <nine> Good job.
[05:28:18] <aria> Thank you. People with light weapons seem to give me trouble
[05:29:05] <aria> But despite that, Im doing pretty well. Previous to this character, I barely pvp'd other than when people invaded me
[05:30:26] <nine> Light weapons are fast.
[05:30:34] <aria> Yup
[05:30:45] <nine> And deal crazy damage relatively.
[05:31:34] <aria> Im using a ultragreat sword. Against other heavy people, I can have well timed strikes. I am not confident on what the timing is for various light weapons
[05:31:48] <aria> I don't have range either
[05:40:01] <nine> You don't really have to target with greatswords.
[05:40:14] <nine> Just twohand and swing is often the best way to fight.
[05:40:29] <nine> Lock-on tracking is shit after all, and the lag doesn't help.
[05:40:39] <nine> Great way to fuck with backstab fishers as well.
[05:41:01] <nine> Just swing and suddenly turn ahead of them and they get raped.
[05:42:40] <aria> Yup
[05:42:58] <aria> I would've, but the lag stab he did on me the first time was from my front
[05:45:55] <aria> k, 3v1, wish me luck...
[05:47:44] <aria> Well I didn't get a single hit off...
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[06:26:13] <nine> Good luck.
[06:26:15] <nine> I'mma sleep.
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[11:06:44] <Bronzdragon> Hai
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[13:03:46] <Bronzdragon> Heyya
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[13:35:24] <aria> http://youtu.be
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[13:58:45] <creamsteak> rawr
[13:59:42] <Bronzdragon> "indicments"
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[14:20:03] <creamsteak> last night I dreamed of a rigged game of basketball, lightsaber dueling an ogre jedi, conquering space one sector at a time, and being chased around by a two or three foot tall orange and blue slug creature with a permanent smiley face.
[14:20:41] <Bronzdragon> Is this in order?
[14:20:43] <aria> That dream is quite noteworthy
[14:20:49] <Bronzdragon> Oh wait, no, that's the plot of Spase Jam.
[14:20:54] <aria> I think I dreamt of sleeping..
[14:20:55] <Bronzdragon> *Space
[14:26:31] <aria> I think from now on, I'll cheaply murder everyone with X's in their name, and bow and show duel etiquette towards those who don't
[14:28:47] <aria> Then again, I had some good matches against two dudes with gamer tags "Pwn x SoMeWoRdHeRe", and Apreche is the backstab while bowing guy, so maybe I should find a different detirminer...
[14:36:04] <creamsteak> Bronzdragon: yes, that would be in order... I woke up screaming as the slug monster was approaching my feet.
[14:36:25] <creamsteak> I couldn't tell if it was a friendly pet type thing or if it's very touch was corrosive acid.
[14:40:23] <Bronzdragon> I see
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[15:41:47] <originalme8> Hey everyone
[15:41:54] <aria> >_> Fucking hell
[15:41:57] <aria> Put red soapstone down
[15:42:08] <originalme8> ???
[15:42:27] <aria> dude uses the stone greatsword r2 before I spawn
[15:42:30] <aria> then wrath of the gods spam
[15:43:58] <aria> ...
[15:44:04] <aria> Second red soapstone.
[15:44:06] <aria> I spawn
[15:44:08] <aria> dude bows at me
[15:44:13] <aria> phantom backstabs me off screen
[15:44:15] * originalme8 has no idea what you are talking about. -Assumes Minecraft-
[15:45:05] <aria> Dark Souls. There's a honorable dueling item that only enforces honor for the person porposing the duel, not the ones accepting it
[15:45:43] <aria> Alright, so in Dark Souls, you invade people's worlds and kill them for humanity
[15:45:46] <originalme8> ah
[15:45:47] <aria> usually invaders are dicks
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[15:45:54] <aria> so you can use this "I won't be a dick" item
[15:45:59] <aria> And then people can summon you
[15:46:04] <aria> and duel you 1v1 fairly
[15:46:11] <aria> I tried using it
[15:46:31] <aria> 2 out of 2 times, they used scott tactics
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[15:49:22] <aria> Apsup, how do you deal with Tranquil Walk of Peace while spawning, then Wrath of the Gods spam when using red soapstone?
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[15:56:33] <aria> Alright, lets try this again..
[15:58:16] <aria> Huh..
[15:58:25] <aria> this totally faught me legit
[16:08:17] <aria> Past 3 matches have been good
[16:09:19] <Bronzdragon> *fought
[16:09:23] <Bronzdragon> Also, what "this"
[16:12:18] <aria> Hi
[16:12:20] <aria> this guy
[16:12:29] <Bronzdragon> =P
[16:12:46] <Bronzdragon> Who has 2 thumbs, and is awesome?
[16:13:21] <apreche> so it seems pretty apparent now this channel has become the Dark Souls channel
[16:13:35] <apreche> don't you people have jobs/lives besides playing games all day?
[16:13:41] <Bronzdragon> ... no?
[16:13:41] <aria> Good game that.
[16:13:57] <aria> Dark Souls is idling 90% of the time..
[16:13:58] <Bronzdragon> I'm between jobs right now
[16:14:05] <Bronzdragon> So... Nope
[16:14:17] <apreche> so you should be getting a job and not playing games
[16:14:21] <Bronzdragon> Also, the only reason it's like that is because Aria's the only one talking.
[16:14:34] <Bronzdragon> And he talks more then 50% fo the time about Dark Souls
[16:14:47] <Bronzdragon> Ergo, more then 50% of the content is DkS related.
[16:15:11] <apreche> well, if you have no job
[16:15:13] <Bronzdragon> apreche, due to circumstances (Moving out of the country in a month or 2), getting a job is not really... useful?
[16:15:22] <apreche> I will give you a job
[16:15:22] <Bronzdragon> Well, not not useful but...
[16:15:27] <Bronzdragon> Wait, you will?
[16:15:39] <apreche> go find out how someone can play A.R.C. even though the game has been dead for a long time
[16:15:54] <apreche> http://en.wikipedia.org
[16:16:32] <Bronzdragon> I also found it via wikipedia
[16:17:00] <Bronzdragon> If I were you, I'd email Sierra, asking if you can run bootleg servers
[16:17:18] <apreche> do they even still exist?
[16:17:28] <originalme8> You know it's going to be a bad day when the first thing you have to log into is a Citrix server. :\
[16:17:43] <Bronzdragon> Fate Absorbed into Activision Blizzard
[16:18:03] <Bronzdragon> Well... I don't think emailing Activision will do much good
[16:18:26] <apreche> http://armorcritical.com
[16:18:29] <Bronzdragon> You could MAYBE reverse engineer the servers, but now that they're down, and there's no way to get the game running...
[16:19:11] <Bronzdragon> Is thsi the same game?
[16:19:17] <apreche> I'm finding that out right now
[16:19:30] <apreche> if it isn't, it's a clone
[16:19:50] <Bronzdragon> Well... there ya go!
[16:19:56] <Bronzdragon> I did my work, do I get paid now?
[16:20:59] <apreche> i did your work
[16:21:04] <apreche> and there was never any pay
[16:21:46] <Bronzdragon> Don't you always say "It doesn't matter how I get the work done, as long as I get the work done at the end of the day?"
[16:21:58] <Bronzdragon> Also "Work should let me make my own hours!"
[16:22:33] <Bronzdragon> And pay is implied. I demand to be paid in Internet goodies.
[16:24:02] <aria> Fucker poised through my dragon greatsword
[16:24:06] <aria> How does that happen even?
[16:24:46] <Bronzdragon> Stone armour?
[16:24:49] <apreche> It is a clone, but it is basically identical to the original
[16:24:51] <apreche> and it has players
[16:24:56] <Bronzdragon> Yaaay
[16:25:14] <Bronzdragon> Now we need a ARC scrub league
[16:25:40] <apreche> it's the perfect work game
[16:25:49] <apreche> used to play it in high school computer lab
[16:26:39] <aria> Giant helm, havel body
[16:26:43] <aria> Probably wolf ring
[16:26:51] <aria> He could probably walk up the wyren =P
[16:27:54] <Apsup> Scott, I'm dissapoint. Definition of octonormal game was in introduction and it's kind of an important term to know while reading rest of the book.
[16:28:22] <apreche> I did not see it there
[16:28:23] <Apsup> *orthogame.
[16:28:28] <Apsup> Brainfart
[16:28:34] <apreche> yeah, I know what an orthogame is
[16:28:59] <apreche> wtf is octonormal? some kind of 8-way dealy?
[16:29:40] <apreche> I prefer hexabnormal
[16:29:43] <Apsup> I have no idea. Both words start with o, enough reason for me to mix them up.
[16:30:45] <Bronzdragon> Wouldn't that be a face on a shape with 8 corners?
[16:36:35] <Bronzdragon> Mom decided Ihaven't vacuumed...
[16:36:37] <Bronzdragon> Oh well
[16:36:39] <Bronzdragon> gonna cook dinner now
[16:37:45] <aria> ...
[16:37:55] <aria> Make something tasty!
[16:53:32] <aria> I don't get people.
[16:53:41] <aria> I killed fucking 3 of your phantoms
[16:53:46] <aria> and more than 100% of your health
[16:53:53] <aria> (granted I also healed once)
[16:54:04] <aria> Why do you do the come at me bro? Clearly you can tell Im better than you
[17:05:53] <creamsteak> okcupid message:
[17:05:56] <creamsteak> derpadactyl says:
[17:05:56] <creamsteak> you are a huge faggot i'm going to raep u
[17:06:06] <creamsteak> new best friend.
[17:06:15] <ProfPangloss|Work> creamsteak: Sounds like a nice guy
[17:06:21] <aria> Yup
[17:06:21] <ProfPangloss|Work> You should give him a shot.
[17:19:59] <Pierre> maybe he's a farmer, and meant reap.
[17:20:09] * Pierre continues lurking
[17:28:33] <aria> That was fun.
[17:28:44] <aria> I invaded some dude
[17:28:52] <aria> he was like "naw man naw man..!!"
[17:29:00] <aria> "Don't kill me dawg, take these armors instead please!"
[17:29:29] <aria> I was like "I'm here because you've been indicted. Defeat me and you can go free" And then he started hauling ass running away from me
[17:29:55] <aria> (the chase part was fun)
[17:30:13] <aria> in the end he walked into an enemy ambush, so I didn't wanna rush him
[17:30:19] <aria> He died.
[17:30:38] <aria> (by the enemies. I was watching from a reasonable distance)
[17:47:49] <Bronzdragon> HEY, Y'KNOW WHAT IS A GOOD GAME? DARKSOULS
[17:47:53] <Bronzdragon> Am I cool now?
[17:48:06] <okeefe> Welcome to #darksouls, Bronz.
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[17:48:31] <okeefe> (It's just called #geeknights to lure people in here.)
[17:48:39] <Bronzdragon> I see
[17:48:44] <creamsteak> quit griefing my darksouls
[17:48:48] <Bronzdragon> I punch people with my Dark Knight Sword.
[17:49:05] <Bronzdragon> It kills everything in PvE, but I always die in PvP.
[17:49:07] <Bronzdragon> Is this normal?
[17:49:09] <aria> I have plenty more Dark Souls stories since you last left, Bronz
[17:49:32] <aria> Again, you need to account for lag.
[17:49:44] <aria> Also, some dude got mad at me for murdering after he attacked me
[17:49:51] <aria> We were both going after the same host
[17:50:31] <aria> (the jerk who keeps ganking lord blades and healing, then doing the "come at me bro". The one who has killed me twice, and Ive killed like 4 times)
[17:50:52] <aria> and his 20 phantoms..
[17:51:07] <Bronzdragon> ...
[17:51:12] <Bronzdragon> that's a lot of phantoms
[17:52:24] <aria> ..
[17:52:26] <aria> Huh...
[17:52:36] <aria> I accidentally killed a red phantom I was trying very hard to protect =P
[17:52:48] <aria> Lucikly the same hit also killed our mutual target
[17:52:54] <aria> and I also successfully killed the host
[17:53:01] <Bronzdragon> ... close enough =P
[17:54:12] <aria> Anyway, so I was fighting that cheap annoying dude
[17:54:19] <aria> and he had a red phantom on him
[17:54:32] <aria> So I ran behind him so that hed show his back to the red dude
[17:54:33] <aria> and he did
[17:54:37] <aria> for quite some time
[17:54:44] <aria> But the red dude didn't attack
[17:55:06] <aria> instead, a tiny bit later, he attakcs me and shows his back to the host.
[17:55:10] <aria> So I kill them both
[17:55:23] <aria> then I get a message saying he was on my side and calling me a "gay fucking prik"
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[18:00:28] <aria> Dude just now disconnected as I backstabbed him
[18:01:02] <Bronzdragon> =(
[18:07:27] <aria> Well that went terribly.
[18:07:35] <aria> Did killed me before I could get a single hit off
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[18:24:59] <aria> Apperantly while I was afk, not only did I get invaded and killed
[18:25:12] <aria> I also got summoned into dark anor londo and some dude was trying to kill me while afk
[18:25:20] <aria> luckily I came back just in time to punish him =P
[18:25:23] <Bronzdragon> ....
[18:25:54] <aria> So whats happening in the world of other games?
[18:26:43] <Bronzdragon> bullets
[18:26:45] <Bronzdragon> Lots of 'em
[18:27:43] <aria> Whats happening in the world of non-shooters, or at least shooters with a tiny bit of variaty like in Tribes
[18:28:43] <Bronzdragon> People are out skiiing
[18:28:45] <apreche> got a new board game just read rules, playing tonight
[18:28:51] <Bronzdragon> Name?
[18:28:52] <aria> Name?
[18:29:03] <apreche> http://boardgamegeek.com
[18:29:38] <Bronzdragon> the art looks good...
[18:30:36] <Bronzdragon> It sounds interesting
[18:31:29] <aria> In the new DMC, not only does your combo build up super quick, but these are the new words: Dirty; Cruel; Brutal; Anarchic; Savage
[18:31:50] <okeefe> Dungeon World is now available in pdf.
[18:33:55] <aria> (as opposed to "Dope; Cray Cray; Blast!; Alright; Sweet; SSStylish!!!"
[18:35:05] <aria> Oh I forgot SShowtime
[18:36:49] <Apsup> No games for me now gotta do dishes, after that ether cleaning or schoolwork.
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[18:39:49] <aria> Someoen should make multiplayer DMC
[18:40:13] <aria> Then again, I remember how bullshit fighting dante as the dude in 4 was..
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[18:43:29] <apreche> played the first DMC for five minutes when it first came out
[18:43:34] <apreche> ooh, shiny for five minutes
[18:43:37] <apreche> then, ok that's enough of that
[18:44:23] <aria> Where you playing on babymode?
[18:44:34] <apreche> no idea what mode
[18:44:45] <aria> What it either too easy or too hard?
[18:44:51] <apreche> neither
[18:44:52] <aria> Cause DMC is no fun when either of those extremes
[18:44:53] <apreche> it was too boring
[18:44:56] <apreche> walk around and shoot/hit things
[18:44:57] <apreche> repeat
[18:44:59] <apreche> zzzzzzzzzz
[18:45:07] <aria> Sounds like it was too easy =P
[18:45:18] <apreche> so put it on hard
[18:45:26] <apreche> walk around and hit things more times each
[18:45:27] <apreche> zzzzzzzz
[18:45:34] <aria> hard doesn't give enemies more health
[18:45:42] <aria> even super ultra hard mode doesn't give them more health
[18:45:59] <aria> It does spawn more enemies. Although I doubt regular hard does that
[18:46:14] <apreche> so you miss because they are all dodgy?
[18:46:24] <apreche> same effect, more hitting and shooting, same game takes longer.
[18:46:41] <apreche> I don't understand any of these walk around and hit things games
[18:46:57] <apreche> at least Zelda/Metroid puts puzzles and exploring in there
[18:47:07] <apreche> RE4 also the puzzles
[18:47:13] <aria> Well, you're the one that'll be dodging more, but I suppose they also dodge a bit
[18:47:29] <aria> RE4 does not have puzzles.
[18:47:42] <aria> RE4 has walk to the end of the hallway, then walk back and open the door you couldn't open before
[18:47:45] <apreche> well, not like RE1
[18:47:54] <apreche> I don't remember it that well
[18:48:30] <aria> And modern Zelda has puzzles that the game tells you the answer to as soon as you center your camera on where you need to go
[18:48:47] <apreche> that is awful
[18:48:50] <apreche> but not as awful as no puzzles
[18:49:41] <aria> DMC had puzzles. But they were no good. It was mostly RE level
[18:49:48] <aria> I haven't played DMC1...
[18:50:11] <aria> But in 2, and espcially 3, the game is at its best when its at its hardest and you need to be 100% focused to kill anything
[18:51:03] <aria> Unlike most other hit things games, DMC actually had depth to the combat, and if you were god at it, you could walk into any number of attacks and come out unharmed
[18:51:19] <apreche> all those games have "depth" in the combat
[18:51:26] <aria> God of War does not...
[18:51:31] <apreche> haven't played that one
[18:51:36] <aria> God of War hard mode is not "mode for skilled players". Its just hard mode
[18:51:44] <apreche> but what "depth" means is that the bad guys have some sort of pattern
[18:51:53] <aria> Its just "now they take more health and you should exploit cheap things mode"
[18:51:57] <apreche> that you can recognize based on visual/audio cues about what move they are going to do
[18:52:16] <apreche> and they also increase the speed, so you have to react faster
[18:52:23] <apreche> like every bad guy is a mini-boss
[18:52:47] <aria> In DMC its your own moveset that is what you get better at, rather than learning the enemies
[18:53:09] <apreche> I wish someone would make a hit things game without the hit things part
[18:53:18] <apreche> like, make Castlevania with just the castle, but no fighting anything.
[18:53:22] <apreche> just the platformy explory
[18:53:40] <aria> ...you want the castlevania platforming to be the center of a game? =P
[18:53:51] <aria> Because let me tell you, those jumping archs fucking suck
[18:53:55] <apreche> with medusas coming at you
[18:53:58] <apreche> and you can't whip them!
[18:53:59] <Bronzdragon> The problem is that unless the combat is there, platforming is just jump timing...
[18:54:09] <Bronzdragon> Mario needs enemies, otherwise jumping is just platforms
[18:54:18] <aria> Well, he wants the dodging
[18:54:21] <aria> but not the punching back
[18:54:27] <Bronzdragon> I'm not explaining it right, I think
[18:54:27] <apreche> also
[18:54:31] <apreche> the items that let you jump differently
[18:55:12] <aria> You should watch a Dark Souls speedrun. Its just running in a castle dodging medusas
[18:55:23] <aria> and then punching 1 guy at the very end for 3 seconds
[18:56:12] <apreche> but that's a leveling up game
[18:56:16] <apreche> if you played liek that the whole game
[18:56:25] <apreche> you would have no xp and couldn't beat bosses
[18:56:31] <aria> Hah, no
[18:56:52] <aria> Levling up does jack shit. Ive been winning against people 50 levels higher than me all day.
[18:57:07] <apreche> can you beat the whole game on level 1?
[18:57:13] <apreche> without getting items or fighting anything?
[18:57:13] <aria> Yup
[18:57:23] <apreche> or fighting the bare minimum of dudes?
[18:57:24] <aria> No, you need items and fighting some things
[18:57:37] <ProfPangloss|Work> Alright, going to my final co-op review
[18:57:38] <ProfPangloss|Work> Wish me luck!
[18:57:43] <aria> You need to fight a total of... 7 dudes
[18:57:53] <apreche> i would be impress to see a walk around a hit things game where somebody won without hitting things
[18:57:57] <aria> sorry, 8 dudes. Forgot the tutorial
[18:58:10] <apreche> like double dragon, but you just walk to the end
[18:58:13] <apreche> and run past everybody
[18:58:22] <Bronzdragon> Good luck, ProfPangloss!
[18:59:11] <aria> Wait no, I also forgot the golem, and O&S. So a total of 11 dudes
[18:59:18] <aria> yeah, 11 dudes
[18:59:27] <apreche> and you can beat them all without xp or grinding or anything?
[18:59:32] <aria> But thats in a game that takes most people 100 hours the first time trough
[18:59:37] <aria> Yup
[18:59:55] <apreche> so the equivalent of beating Ganon with the "sword"
[19:00:26] <aria> Think of it this way. I currently have 760635xp. You get for the weakest common enemy that you fight a lot. If I had cared about my stats, I would spend that xp on levels =P
[19:00:57] <aria> you get 20 for the weakest common enemy**
[19:01:00] <Bronzdragon> I was thinking of how you'd beat O&S on Level 1.
[19:01:04] <aria> Important bit of that sentence
[19:01:15] <Bronzdragon> I guess you'd summon dudes to help you... =P
[19:01:34] <aria> Right, so what restrictions do I have? Can I upgrade my gear? Coop?
[19:01:51] <apreche> no
[19:01:58] <apreche> whatever you have to start the game with
[19:01:58] <apreche> alone
[19:02:00] <aria> How about coop with NPCs?
[19:02:15] <apreche> you can just make strong NPCs appear and help you?
[19:02:24] <Bronzdragon> Yes
[19:02:25] <apreche> how tf doe sthat work?
[19:02:26] <aria> No, they're all leveld for the boss they help you with
[19:02:30] <apreche> wait
[19:02:34] <aria> Acutally, one NPC is way too strong..
[19:02:34] <apreche> so you don't even have to play the game
[19:02:39] <apreche> you just sit back and wait for NPCs to beat it for you
[19:02:41] <apreche> while you run away
[19:02:48] <Bronzdragon> Well, you can't just do it anywhere
[19:03:02] <Bronzdragon> At certain spots (in front of most bosses) there are summon signs
[19:03:02] <aria> You can do it just about everywhere =P With human players that is
[19:03:05] <aria> NPCs are rare
[19:03:07] <Bronzdragon> The same as normal players leave.
[19:03:16] <aria> But alright
[19:03:19] <apreche> how is that different from the golden money beating the level for you in Donkey Kong whatever?
[19:03:23] <Bronzdragon> So you summon an NPC as you would a normal human.
[19:03:23] <apreche> monkey
[19:03:25] <aria> no humans, just starting gear and base stats
[19:03:33] <Bronzdragon> Because you still have to not die...
[19:03:38] <aria> still perfectly doable. I'd die a bunch, but I could probably do it in a day or two
[19:03:58] <apreche> pretty easy to not die when you can just run away without having to go in to hit anything
[19:04:01] <aria> The NPC that you summon to help will lose with the exception of one
[19:04:06] <Bronzdragon> Well, you say that...
[19:04:14] <aria> and then you need to finish the fight
[19:04:22] <aria> with the boss having extra health because you summoned someone
[19:04:25] <apreche> so you can finish it with nothing?
[19:04:32] <Bronzdragon> In theory...
[19:04:35] <aria> Yes. I can
[19:04:37] <apreche> the training sword and a loin cloth?
[19:04:47] <Bronzdragon> You get a proper sword though.
[19:04:48] <aria> Yup.
[19:04:50] <apreche> not bad
[19:04:56] <Bronzdragon> it's not a training sword...
[19:05:02] <apreche> the equivalent
[19:05:12] <Bronzdragon> See, then you would go bare-fisted
[19:05:16] <Bronzdragon> And I'm not sure Aria could do that =P
[19:05:23] <okeefe> All this talk is making me want to replay Symphony.
[19:05:49] <apreche> is there a 3DS-vania?
[19:06:24] <apreche> early next year apparently
[19:06:31] <apreche> delayed
[19:07:16] <apreche> oh poop
[19:07:26] <apreche> it's not a metroidvania, it's a walk around and hit things 3d game
[19:07:50] <aria> Oh I meant the very first proper sword you get in the tutorial
[19:07:55] <aria> not the broken sword you spawn with
[19:08:11] <aria> apreche: You pick up your weapon (that you get to choose) 30 seconds into the game
[19:08:14] <aria> but you spawn without one
[19:08:25] <apreche> the point is that it isn't something you leveled or grinded for
[19:08:28] <aria> you also spawn without a shield, but pick that up 30 seconds into the game
[19:08:29] <apreche> ground?
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[19:09:08] <apreche> or paid real moneys for
[19:09:15] <aria> Huh?
[19:09:59] <aria> No, your starting weapon is not DLC.
[19:10:26] <aria> Bronz: I could totally beat the game as a bandit
[19:10:34] <aria> It would be worse for the mage...
[19:10:43] <aria> yeah, anything but the mage I could do
[19:11:21] <aria> With the theif, you can do bleed on a lot of the bosses
[19:11:26] <Bronzdragon> Why not mage?
[19:11:32] <Bronzdragon> Wait, can we buy more magic?
[19:11:42] <apreche> how do you get gold without grinding?
[19:11:49] <Bronzdragon> Bosses
[19:11:54] <Bronzdragon> you HAVE to kill them
[19:11:55] <aria> You pick it up from the ground
[19:11:59] <Bronzdragon> ^
[19:12:06] <aria> Yeah, you have to kill 11 dudes to beat the game
[19:12:08] <apreche> think of it this way
[19:12:10] <aria> everyone else you just run past
[19:12:11] <apreche> if this game were final fantasy
[19:12:19] <apreche> could you beat it while running away from every single random encounter
[19:12:21] <apreche> because in FF you can't do that
[19:12:25] <okeefe> Too much Dark Souls. Will come back later.
[19:12:26] <Apsup> yes.
[19:12:28] <aria> Yes
[19:12:31] <apreche> you have to fight a bunch of random encounters otherwise bosses are literally impossible
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[19:12:43] <Apsup> It would be hard, and bit too annoying for me, but yes.
[19:12:49] <Bronzdragon> Are you allowed to sleep in Inns in Final Fantasy?
[19:12:58] <Bronzdragon> These kind of questions are important!
[19:13:12] <apreche> if you got the money
[19:13:21] <apreche> but you have to run from every random encounter
[19:13:22] <apreche> or
[19:13:22] <aria> I never grind in Dark Souls but I always have money than I know what to do with for just beating everything on first try and running past 90% of enemies
[19:13:28] <apreche> use a hack that sets the random encounter rate to "never"
[19:13:42] <aria> apreche: 0 random encounter, but you get money from scripted encounters
[19:13:49] <aria> can you spend that money however, but not on stats?
[19:13:59] <aria> Cause then its pretty much how I play anyway
[19:14:00] <apreche> details don't matter
[19:14:22] <apreche> what matters is does the skill of the player matter more than the time invested in the game
[19:14:31] <aria> Oh yeah
[19:14:33] <apreche> If someone who is level a billion
[19:14:37] <apreche> fights someone who just started
[19:14:43] <apreche> can the guy who just started win with skill?
[19:15:16] <Bronzdragon> Well... no.
[19:15:16] <aria> Depends how cheap the other guy is. Dark Souls lets you be fucking cheap, because you're supposed to be fucking cheap back
[19:15:28] <aria> Bronz: Yeah they can. If there is no lag
[19:15:39] <Bronzdragon> ... in theory, sure!
[19:15:40] <aria> there are level billion NPCs that we always kill just starting out
[19:15:42] <aria> because no lag
[19:15:46] <aria> so you just parry them every time
[19:15:51] <Bronzdragon> True...
[19:15:57] <aria> and wait for ~3 minutes till they die or run away
[19:16:15] <apreche> that is pretty good if true
[19:16:38] <aria> I've taken a boss a lot of people have trouble with with barefirsts that do 2hp damage
[19:16:44] <creamsteak> apreche: have you seen the "assisted" final fantasy 1 speedrun?
[19:16:45] <aria> (vs the 500 of my OP sword)
[19:16:58] <apreche> creamsteak: no, but I want to now
[19:17:08] <creamsteak> they beat the game in 9 minutes something... the original final fantasy... thanks to the magic of RNG
[19:17:30] <apreche> the one I found on youtube is 4 hours
[19:17:32] <apreche> so that's not it
[19:19:31] <creamsteak> I dunno if there's a youtube video of it... I remember reading about it
[19:19:39] <creamsteak> it's tool assisted and abuses frames and such
[19:19:43] <apreche> pics or it didn't happen
[19:19:55] <creamsteak> http://www.youtube.com
[19:19:55] <aria> http://www.youtube.com Here. Just past the tutorial. This dude does level up and such. And kill dudes for xp. He's trying to be as quick as possible, and stats matter somewhat. But he runs past most things
[19:20:00] <creamsteak> there's one in a little over an hour :P
[19:20:36] <apreche> I should try to find game genie codes to play FF6 where no random encounters, and everyone invincible in all the non-random fights that you are supposed to win
[19:20:49] <apreche> same for Chrono Trigger
[19:21:30] <apreche> then fraps the whole thing
[19:21:39] <apreche> and edit out all the parts where you are just walking around
[19:21:41] <creamsteak> http://tasvideos.org
[19:21:45] <aria> Oh, that is not the video I thought it was. This video is from a few days after the game came out. people are a lot better at it now
[19:22:38] <aria> Yeah this guy doesn't know any of the crazy shortcuts...
[19:22:42] <apreche> this tasvideos site sucks
[19:22:51] <apreche> how to get list of all videos for a particular game?
[19:22:56] <creamsteak> I dunno
[19:23:01] <creamsteak> that's what I'm looking for actually
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[19:23:51] <apreche> 15-16 minute bad dudes
[19:23:52] <apreche> oh yeah
[19:24:00] <creamsteak> http://tasvideos.org
[19:24:01] <apreche> nothing but jump spinning kick
[19:24:15] <aria> Anyway: That speedrun is totally achiveable skill level and doesn't require a bunch of knowledge, since he takes the most obvious path (its open world)
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[19:25:28] <creamsteak> note... fucking dragon warrior ...
[19:25:42] <apreche> oh shit yeah
[19:25:43] <creamsteak> that game takes forever... "17:47:74"
[19:25:49] <creamsteak> er
[19:25:52] <creamsteak> .74
[19:25:54] <apreche> but I actually like random encoutners in that
[19:25:57] <apreche> because slime/draky
[19:26:01] <creamsteak> so they beat it in 17 minutes?
[19:26:08] <creamsteak> I think I spent fifty + hours as a kid
[19:26:22] <creamsteak> lol with 92 gold and 520 xp
[19:26:34] <creamsteak> the dragonlord is asleep...
[19:26:52] <creamsteak> http://www.youtube.com
[19:28:04] <creamsteak> oh shit son crossing bridges before you have to
[19:28:26] <creamsteak> metal slime!
[19:31:17] <creamsteak> gold man!
[19:34:38] <creamsteak> do you actually need edricks armor?
[19:34:43] <creamsteak> I'm kinda surprised he went to get it
[19:35:01] <creamsteak> maybe just for the health regen?
[19:36:25] <creamsteak> and walking across marshes I guess
[19:37:30] <creamsteak> I kinda feel weird that a friend wanted to ad me for an sf86 reference
[19:41:06] <creamsteak> why does he go talk to the old man about the rianbow drop if he doesn't get a thing?
[19:41:49] <creamsteak> oh I guess it's not in a chest
[19:43:29] <creamsteak> ok now he got edricks sword and I'm almost positive that's not needed to finish the game
[19:43:37] <creamsteak> pretty sure I beat teh game without it myself
[19:44:56] <creamsteak> unless maybe he needs it because he's so low level/it'd take way longer to kill him without it than the frames lost getting it?
[19:45:08] <aria> Shorter ending sequence maybe?
[19:45:29] <creamsteak> well he's only doing 11 damage per hit...
[19:45:33] <creamsteak> so maybe
[19:45:47] <creamsteak> then he's just casting hurt on the dragonlord...
[19:45:56] <creamsteak> till his mp runs out I imagine
[19:46:52] <creamsteak> wow
[19:47:01] <creamsteak> apparently he had just enough mp to kill it with just casting hurt...
[19:48:10] <creamsteak> I like that he didn't rescue the princess
[19:48:12] <creamsteak> I always hated her
[19:51:14] <aria> Why are you looking at the least skill based games for speedurns?
[19:51:57] <creamsteak> because the technical factor is interesting
[19:52:21] <creamsteak> just how much of the "game" can you cut out via RNG?
[19:53:03] <aria> ...
[19:53:07] <aria> New youtube again..?
[19:53:11] <creamsteak> three keys!
[19:55:24] <aria> http://i.imgur.com
[19:55:59] <aria> That is the fourth change in just a few weeks
[20:01:55] <creamsteak> planetside 2 is getting patched every couple hours it seems
[20:03:44] <Bronzdragon> SO BUGGY!
[20:03:58] <Bronzdragon> (That's what frequent patches means, right? Poor coding?)
[20:05:43] <creamsteak> who knows, it gets patched more often than I can play it
[20:06:13] <creamsteak> there are balance tweeks in there too
[20:06:25] <Bronzdragon> Again, broken
[20:06:35] <Bronzdragon> Why tweak what ain't broke, bro
[20:10:34] <aria> Hey Bronz, I die to a black knight sword in 3 hits
[20:10:36] <aria> also fuck this guy
[20:10:54] <aria> His strategy was to run in circles around the elevator until I gave up and left
[20:11:03] <aria> also I used power within cause he buffed up and bowed
[20:11:17] <aria> But then he just started running so that Id kill myself
[20:11:27] <aria> Anyway, I healed all the damage from power within
[20:11:38] <Bronzdragon> ...
[20:11:46] <aria> He also healed mid-fight
[20:11:48] <Bronzdragon> That doesn't seem like the smartest move...
[20:27:31] <creamsteak> zelda 2 glitched run... how did they even figure out where those glitches would take them
[20:29:01] <aria> math. Area hex 1 plus area hex 2 = a number
[20:29:20] <aria> You want a number to be the area hex for desired area
[20:30:34] <creamsteak> erm did you watch it?
[20:30:40] <aria> No
[20:30:42] <creamsteak> they didn't exactly get optimal results
[20:31:00] <aria> Well, you can't input your own numbers
[20:31:03] <creamsteak> there's manipulation in there, but it's clearly limited... somehow
[20:32:15] <aria> You can't put in your own numbers, but very early you get to visit 11 and 22, and 33 just so happens to be pretty late game. 20-32 are early and 33-40 are optional areas. 41 is where you actually wanna get to
[20:32:25] <aria> what do? glitch to 33, walk to 41
[20:32:52] <aria> And I didn't actually watch it, so might be wrong. But thats how you usually do that kind of stuff in NES games
[20:34:15] <creamsteak> it's a movement glitch based on hitting left and right at the same time (which the nes controller wouldn't let you do) that causes you to slide around
[20:34:37] <creamsteak> but sometimes they exit areas while sliding in weird ways and end up in entirely different spots
[20:34:44] <creamsteak> that much I get
[20:36:08] <aria> Yeah, that sounds like the same thing
[20:36:38] <aria> they'll go between two areas, but not through the switchy thing and the game assumes both places at once
[20:39:25] <creamsteak> "Thank you for playing Super Mario World! Unfortunately, this trial copy will only let you play for 2.5 minutes."
[20:39:29] <creamsteak> This is a completely new type of Super Mario World TAS. It beats the game by getting the "THE END" screen in the second level (Yoshi's Island 3). This happens because a glitch allowing Yoshi to eat "nothing" enables players to manipulate memory and code into bringing up the final screen of the game.
[20:39:35] <creamsteak> The heated discussion about the categorical separation regarding this movie and the recently published any% TAS invoked the creation of the "Corrupts Memory" category.
[20:40:16] <creamsteak> video link has rainbow dash openning image
[20:40:19] <creamsteak> http://www.youtube.com
[20:50:17] <aria> My mouse is acting up..
[20:50:46] <aria> Also I think that from now on, if I fight someone who's name I recognize
[20:50:49] <aria> Ill just be cheap as fuck
[20:51:09] <aria> and if its my first time, Ill bow and let them heal/buff
[20:51:43] <aria> this guy I recognized as a cheap fuck. So I hit him and he is doing terribly. Then I think maybe its a different guy
[20:51:50] <aria> Let him heal
[20:52:04] <aria> tell him "Sorry thouhgt you were someone else. Heal up and we'll duel proper"
[20:52:23] <aria> then he summons 2 dudes... >_>
[20:56:04] <Bronzdragon> ...
[20:56:10] <Bronzdragon> Yup, that's a proper duel
[20:56:15] <Bronzdragon> With more than 2 people!
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[21:40:09] <creamsteak> raep time guy's profile says "I may or may not be a girl"... what a personality...
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[22:17:42] <Bronzdragon> I'm bored, entertain me
[22:17:44] <Bronzdragon> Please?
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[22:25:03] <Apsup> I'm bad at being entertainer.
[22:28:27] <Bronzdragon> Eyup
[22:28:32] <Bronzdragon> Though you're doing better then before
[22:33:19] <Apsup> I just fell in love with reddit. Wait no, reddit reconnected me with an old love, so I can't love reddit, but I'm extremely thankful for it.
[22:34:37] <Bronzdragon> I see
[22:34:38] <Bronzdragon> I think
[22:36:29] <Apsup> There was a discussion where someone metioned Enemy Territory and just for the sake of it I tested what would happen if I type reddit.com/r/enemyterritory and who knew, there is an subreddit for it, not super active but promising enough that I could actually have a chance to play that again.
[22:41:11] <Bronzdragon> ...
[22:41:13] <Bronzdragon> =O
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[23:17:29] <spacejam> the library blocks IRC
[23:18:12] <Bronzdragon> AS THEY SHOULD
[23:18:28] <Bronzdragon> IRC is only good for warez, animez and childpornz
[23:18:42] <spacejam> i thought it was more an extension of the "no talking in the library" policy
[23:19:11] <spacejam> they should have an irc channel for the library where the op makes everyone whisper
[23:21:40] <Apsup> Bot that kicks anyone who says anything?
[23:22:03] <spacejam> exactly
[23:22:21] <spacejam> preferably with the message "SILENCE! THIS IS A LIBRARY!"
[23:36:37] <aria> apreche: "Almost every time a group that is good at cut-scenes makes TV shows, they fail spectacularly."
[23:36:46] <aria> Just have someone else write it then
[23:36:54] <spacejam> how often does this happen
[23:37:05] <aria> *shrug*
[23:37:10] <aria> Probably has happened once
[23:37:25] <aria> Maybe you can count Squeenix?
[23:37:34] <spacejam> i wonder what a 22 minute cutscene would be like
[23:37:48] <aria> Play Metal Gear Solid 4
[23:37:54] <aria> Or 2
[23:37:57] <Bronzdragon> ....those are longer then 22 minutes
[23:38:00] <aria> Actually, 3 also
[23:38:18] <aria> 3 probably didn't go much longer than 22 minutes at its longest
[23:38:27] <Bronzdragon> Eh, I dunno
[23:38:35] <Bronzdragon> I think there's a 30 minuter in there
[23:39:10] <Bronzdragon> 25:52, I guess
[23:39:18] <aria> ...this Old Republic CG video is so dumb...
[23:39:19] <spacejam> my wondering has suddenly dropped off quite sharply
[23:39:22] <Bronzdragon> (Debriefing)
[23:40:09] <Bronzdragon> Huh... every cutscene that's the longest of the game is the last one.
[23:40:34] <aria> Well of course =P
[23:40:39] <aria> Did you look up lenghts?
[23:40:44] <aria> How is the one in 2 counted?
[23:40:45] <Bronzdragon> Anyway, 4 is the longest by far http://imgur.com
[23:41:13] <spacejam> 1 hour?????
[23:41:20] <aria> Cause its likr 30 min, then 2 min of gameplay, then 40 min, then 5 min of gameplay, then another 40 min of cutscene
[23:41:52] <aria> The ending of 2 is longer than that of 4
[23:41:59] <aria> but in 4, its a single cutscene
[23:42:09] <aria> where as in 2, they'd let you play tiny chuncks in between
[23:42:11] <spacejam> 1 hour???????????????
[23:42:14] <aria> Yeah
[23:42:22] <spacejam> 1 HOUR???!?????????????????????
[23:42:26] <spacejam> ok i'm not that excited
[23:42:31] <spacejam> but that's pretty long
[23:42:33] <aria> You haven't played MGS4?
[23:42:34] <aria> Good game
[23:42:36] <aria> It is
[23:42:37] <spacejam> i've never played any msg
[23:42:44] <aria> 2 is still longer
[23:42:50] <spacejam> i hope they let you save mid cutscene
[23:42:58] <aria> ...
[23:42:59] <aria> Well
[23:43:02] <aria> Um...
[23:43:04] <aria> you can in 2
[23:43:06] <aria> Not in 4
[23:43:11] <aria> But you can pause mid cutscene at least
[23:43:17] <Bronzdragon> Alright, listen, when you play metal gear
[23:43:26] <Bronzdragon> It's a cool playing game, but that's not what you're there for
[23:43:31] <Bronzdragon> You're there to see what happens to snake
[23:43:47] <Bronzdragon> Yes, it's funny to joke at the lenght, but it almost never feels 'too long'.
[23:43:47] <aria> I'm there for the crazy villains =P
[23:43:51] <Bronzdragon> You want to see what happens next.
[23:43:57] <Bronzdragon> ... OH GOD THE BEES!
[23:44:08] <aria> Oh yeah, 4 didn't feel too long
[23:44:13] <aria> 2 maybe... =P
[23:44:14] <Bronzdragon> Let's not forget when bomberman gets the rollerskate upgrade.
[23:44:17] <aria> But thats not because it lasted long!
[23:44:19] <Bronzdragon> Did you play 4?
[23:44:23] <aria> Its because of the content
[23:44:29] <spacejam> ahh
[23:44:43] <Bronzdragon> So... play some MGS. It's good stuff
[23:44:45] <aria> Oh thats right, you still haven't played 4! I played 4 when it had just come out. Only played once
[23:44:59] <Bronzdragon> I wanna play 4 kinda really bad, actually...
[23:45:01] <aria> In MGS2, it didn't feel like it lasted too long. It felt like too much was happening =P
[23:46:51] <aria> If you play them in Japanese, you get some funny Jingrish. If you play them in English, you get funny main character voice
[23:47:00] <aria> Take your pick
[23:48:22] <Apsup> Wow, playing ET after years of not playing it. I'm so rusty.
[23:48:31] <aria> ..ET?
[23:48:47] <aria> On the Atari 2600?
[23:49:06] <Apsup> Enemy Territory
[23:49:41] <Bronzdragon> =P
[23:49:53] <Bronzdragon> He found a subreddit with players on it
[23:51:00] <Apsup> Actually that has installer with everything needed in it, I was able to found populated server (humans no bots) with just the games server browser. It's nice to see that it's actually alive.
[23:51:20] <spacejam> there's a packaged installer?
[23:51:25] <spacejam> wunderbar!
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