#geeknights | Logs for 2012-10-29

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[00:02:27] <Bronzdragon> Do any have you have a heavy piece of software in your launchbar, and then accidentally click on it?
[00:02:32] <Bronzdragon> I hate it when i do that...
[00:02:35] <Bronzdragon> I just started UDK...
[00:02:55] <trogdor42> yeah, it's usually Word or Eclipse
[00:03:26] <Bronzdragon> ... UDK takes 30 seconds to boot
[00:03:29] <Bronzdragon> I timed it last time
[00:03:32] <Bronzdragon> UUUUUUGH
[00:03:39] <Bronzdragon> Okay, it's done now
[00:04:05] <trogdor42> it's not too bad with my laptop's SSD
[00:04:20] <trogdor42> worst part about word for mac is that it INSISTS on opening EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT that i had open last time
[00:04:23] <trogdor42> bitch, i want a new one
[00:04:25] <trogdor42> that's it
[00:04:26] <trogdor42> NOTHING ELSE
[00:04:42] <Bronzdragon> ... you're doing it wrong
[00:16:13] <Apsup> Finnished Mega Man 2. Haven't done that for a while.
[00:16:37] <Bronzdragon> That's at least 2 more then I have
[00:16:39] <Bronzdragon> Probably more
[00:17:09] <Apsup> 2 more what? Times finished Mega Man 2?
[00:17:28] <Bronzdragon> Correct
[00:18:28] <Apsup> Truth be told I haven't played it all the way through that many times. I occasionally blow through the robot masters, but don't play the Wily's castle.
[00:18:57] <Apsup> Robot masters I can do casually for leisure, but Wily's castle requres some actual effort so I tend to skip it.
[00:30:55] <lukeburrage> Goodnight!
[00:31:01] <Bronzdragon> Ciao
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[04:36:39] <yoshokatana> oof
[04:36:46] <yoshokatana> just finished playing eclipse with roommates
[04:37:00] <yoshokatana> I recommended something fast and light like carcassonne or puerto rico
[04:37:09] <yoshokatana> but they saw the eclipse box, and said "what's that?"
[04:37:14] <yoshokatana> so I showed them
[04:37:30] <yoshokatana> AND MY MONOLITHS STAND FOREVERMORE IN THE BLEAK DARKNESS BETWEEN THE SUNS
[04:37:55] <yoshokatana> SILENT GUARDIANS OF AN ANCIENT AND VAST EMPIRE
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[10:08:21] <lukeburrage> Hey
[10:08:29] <aria> Hey
[10:09:59] <aria> So what are people up to?
[10:11:21] <Apsup> Nothing much.
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[10:37:32] <Apsup> Morining nine
[10:41:13] <lukeburrage> I'm fiddling with stuff.
[11:05:05] <aria> Nine
[11:05:10] <aria> you're in the netherlands
[11:05:13] <aria> tell Bronz to wake up
[11:24:06] <nine> 5<3 aria.
[11:24:10] <nine> I won't.
[11:24:24] <nine> Hi Apsup.
[12:02:24] <Apsup> iTunes has been hating me lately. When I listen a podcast to point x and stop sometimes when I return to it it restarts at point y, where y is years before x.
[12:03:02] <Apsup> Maybe it has something to do with me having iPod connected and synching being fucked up?
[12:03:34] <nine> Or you using iTunes.
[12:04:12] <Apsup> Well, what else would I use for podcasts that plays well with my iTunes and has something like iTunes store for finding the podcasts?
[12:04:49] <nine> "What else would I use for iTunes iTunes iTunes iTunes."
[12:05:12] <nine> There's podcast directories on the internet.
[12:05:19] <nine> So you can find podcasts there.
[12:05:26] <Apsup> Well, iTunes just happens to do podcasts well (at least it used to) especially when I have iPod.
[12:05:37] <nine> Then just grab a random media player with podcast support.
[12:05:43] <nine> Like Musicbee or so.
[12:06:01] <nine> Yes, it does it well when you're vendor locked.
[12:13:39] <aria> I like the fact that itunes lets you search
[12:13:42] <aria> and stream
[12:13:47] <aria> I'd use it if it sucked less
[12:14:08] <aria> Finding mp3s online is no good
[12:14:13] <Apsup> I use it only for podcasts, for music foobar2000 does what I need and what I want.
[12:14:22] <aria> Espcially because everyones hosting sucks
[12:15:05] <nine> I don't seek new podcasts, so I just want something to put in my rss feeds and have it download what I want.
[12:15:23] <nine> Or just play ('stream') the stuff.
[12:19:23] <aria> Everything does that
[12:19:34] <nine> Not really.
[12:19:43] <aria> Rhythmbox, Banshee, probably even Deadbeef
[12:19:58] <nine> Fuck Rhythmbox.
[12:20:10] <aria> What you got against Rhythmbox?
[12:20:21] <nine> It's ugly and clunky.
[12:20:31] <nine> mpd's better when using linux.
[12:21:57] <aria> I bet your icons/Gtk was just ugly =P
[12:22:12] <aria> Looks just fine on Walter's Ubuntu
[12:22:13] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[12:22:28] <nine> >implying my icons change the clunkiness of Rhythmbox.
[12:22:45] <aria> You press space and songs start playing
[12:22:49] <aria> How is that clunky?
[12:22:55] <nine> No they won't.
[12:22:57] <aria> Its a 1 button process
[12:23:10] <nine> Gotta download all the fucking codecs one by one.
[12:23:17] <aria> ...
[12:23:42] <aria> Oh you mean just trying to play something and then it fetches everything for you you'll ever need in a few seconds =P?
[12:23:51] <nine> Nope.
[12:23:54] <Apsup> hymmm...testing the podcast pluing for foobar, it works, but it's kinda ugly.
[12:24:04] <nine> It's atrocious.
[12:24:10] <nine> Don't use crappy rhythmbox.
[12:24:58] <nine> Who the piss is Walter btw.
[12:25:10] <aria> ...the dutch guy
[12:25:42] <aria> Also, how many formats do you get your music in?
[12:25:48] <aria> most people only use mp3
[12:25:50] <nine> mp3.
[12:25:55] <nine> Not supported by rhythmbox.
[12:26:06] <Apsup> How fucking hard it is for people having websites to their podcasts to include the link to the feed on their site.
[12:26:19] <nine> People are idiots.
[12:26:23] <nine> And think iTunes is the only thing out there.
[12:26:39] <aria> Clearly, Nine can't figure out how to let stuff fetch him mp3 support..
[12:27:06] <nine> I don't want it to fetch mp3 support.
[12:27:16] <nine> I just want it to play my fucking music when I click my music.
[12:27:47] <aria> Do you want me to time how long it takes me to get rhythmbox and have it play an mp3 =P?
[12:28:03] <nine> But noooooooooo, "US Patents" bullshit makes them piss their pants to support mp3s out of the box.
[12:28:14] <nine> You?
[12:28:19] <nine> You already have the shit installed.
[12:28:25] <nine> It's an unfair comparison.
[12:28:39] <aria> I don't. I use deadbeef as it came default with my distro
[12:28:45] <aria> I don't ever listen to music on this computer
[12:29:43] <Apsup> huh, that worked. Foobar was smart enought to just take the podcast episodes from the feed that had everythign, blog posts and podcsts hand in hand.
[12:30:19] <aria> Was it the only mp3?
[12:30:25] <aria> And thats how it should work
[12:33:36] <nine> I like Musicbee.
[12:33:38] <nine> >install
[12:33:42] <nine> >click music
[12:33:43] <nine> >it plays
[12:34:00] <aria> Apsup, as a third party
[12:34:11] <aria> Did foobar work differently than how Nine describes musicbee?
[12:34:22] <aria> Has any music player ever other than iTunes required more steps than that?
[12:34:29] <Apsup> no...
[12:34:33] <nine> Yes.
[12:34:36] <nine> Rhythmbox by default.
[12:34:45] <Apsup> I don't care about your fights, leave me out of it.
[12:34:47] <nine> >install
[12:34:49] <nine> >click music
[12:35:12] <Apsup> Now I've subscribed all my feed in foobar, now comes the part where I fuck everything up.
[12:35:27] <nine> >BEEP BOOP US PATENTS BLADIBLADIBLAAA BLOOBITYBLOOO WE GOTTA DOWNLOAD SUPPORT FIRST BUT WE CAN'T SHIP IT TRAWLAWLAWLAWL WANT TO DOWNLOAD SUPPORT? YES/NO.
[12:35:30] <nine> >yes
[12:35:32] <aria> If you don't have mp3 support on your computer, it'll have a tiny notification saying "Hey, we can get you Mp3 support" and if you click on it, you get mp3 support in a matter of seconds
[12:35:35] <nine> >wait for download
[12:35:37] <nine> >wait for install
[12:35:41] <nine> >finally music plays
[12:36:10] <nine> First time I tried it took more than a few seconds.
[12:36:21] <aria> You have to have internet access
[12:36:21] <nine> That was years ago though.
[12:36:30] <nine> NO SHIT SHERLOCK.
[12:36:44] <nine> The same internet access I used to get the CD to begin with?
[12:36:47] <nine> Holy shite.
[12:38:03] <aria> I've never not had mp3 support. Last time I got a notification like that was for avchd. It took maybe 10 seconds from trying to opening the file, realizing it didn't work and then making it work (and playing it)
[12:38:04] <Robobuntu> you can't maybe 10 seconds!
[12:38:39] <nine> "It took maybe 10 seconds"
[12:38:40] <Robobuntu> you can't maybe 10 seconds!
[12:39:09] <nine> >10 seconds of having to dick about and wait for shit before you can finally listen to your music you wanted to fucking play instead of having to dick about and wait for bullshit
[12:39:25] <nine> Built-in mp3 support for fuck's sake.
[12:40:36] <aria> See-- you don't want that built into the player. You have system wide codecs for a reason. And the PS3 takes longer than that to buffer a bluray
[12:40:46] <aria> Also, mp3 is way smaller and would go way faster
[12:41:14] <aria> What are you doing where you don't have mp3 support anyway?
[12:43:36] <nine> you don't want that built into the player.
[12:43:37] <nine> I FUCKING DO.
[12:43:43] <nine> MY MUSIC IS IN MP3 FORMAT.
[12:43:45] <nine> LIKE MOST PEOPLE.
[12:44:27] <aria> No. I want my computer to know mp3, so that when I update my mp3 decoder, it gets updated everywhere
[12:45:59] <nine> Still no different from Rhythmbox not having mp3 support out of the fucking box/built-in.
[12:46:02] <nine> WHich is my entire point.
[12:46:09] <nine> Just fucking ship the mp3 support.
[12:46:17] <nine> But they don't do that.
[12:46:39] <nine> And even then, if you go Rhythmbox, shit won't work for another player because that one requires other mp3 codecs.
[12:46:55] <nine> Because some genius made several different codecs packages for various platforms.
[12:46:59] <lukeburrage> I explained mp3 support to my girlfriend the other day, in relation to Audacity.
[12:47:13] <nine> So if you want to update your mp3 support everywhere, you'd better use programs that all support that codec platform.
[12:47:23] <nine> Or you'll have to update mp3 support several times.
[12:47:51] <aria> What? Your applications don't know which mp3 decoder you're using if you do it right
[12:47:58] <aria> They just ask gstreamer or whatever
[12:48:02] <aria> and then gstreamer decodes for them
[12:48:13] <nine> Yes, if it fucking supports gstreamer.
[12:48:17] <nine> I just mentioned that shit.
[12:48:46] <nine> If your video player doesn't do gstreamer, you're back to square one, having to grab another mp3 codec for whatever _PLATFORM_ that thing uses.
[12:48:53] <nine> Or you just lock yourself in with just gstreamer.
[12:48:56] <aria> Alright, so if you use a shitty second rate distro that doesn't give you mp3 support
[12:49:02] <nine> Which is also brilliant-cough.
[12:49:05] <aria> just get libmp3 and everything ever will do mp3
[12:49:20] <nine> Ubuntu's shitty second rate distro? But you said it worked fine for Walter.
[12:49:21] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[12:49:34] <aria> Ubuntu has mp3 support
[12:49:35] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[12:49:40] <nine> Except Rhythmbox which wants gstreamer.
[12:49:44] <nine> Not by default.
[12:49:46] <aria> During install it asks you
[12:49:54] <nine> They changed that then, thankfully.
[12:50:01] <aria> You just have to not say no
[12:50:03] <aria> and then it has mp3 support
[12:50:10] <nine> Was not the case for the period I used it.
[12:50:15] <nine> Which was up to 10.10.
[12:50:42] <nine> After that I bought a new computer and had a system for playing games again.
[12:52:06] <aria> Says 10.10 was in 2010. It had mp3 support in 2010 =P
[12:52:27] <nine> "Says 10.10 was in 2010."
[12:52:31] <nine> What tipped you off? The 10?
[12:52:38] <nine> But no, it didn't have support by default.
[12:52:54] <nine> Or at least, last time I popped the CD in a computer it didn't support mp3.
[12:52:57] <aria> Well no, the Ubuntu website. It was the same as now
[12:52:58] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[12:53:02] <aria> There's a checkbox
[12:53:04] <aria> comes prechecked
[12:53:11] <aria> If you uncheck it, you lose mp3 support
[12:53:24] <aria> Maybe you had the floppy version or something?
[12:53:26] <nine> It didn't come on the liveCD for me.
[12:53:33] * nine headdesks
[12:53:50] <nine> This computer doesn't even have a CD drive (the laptop I popped the CD in had).
[12:54:00] <nine> Floppy drives have never been in any of my computers.
[12:54:16] <nine> No wait, my bad. The very first did.
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[12:54:43] <nine> And again, haven't installed 10.10 in ages, it just didn't support mp3 on the live CD.
[12:54:59] <nine> The checkmark's probably on-the-fly download during install.
[12:55:11] <aria> Oh actually
[12:55:11] <nine> Because it tends to update the installation as it goes.
[12:55:29] <aria> I had a computer that all it did was decode mp3s and stream them as oggs
[12:55:36] <aria> Which ran ubuntu in around 2009-2010
[12:55:37] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[12:55:52] <nine> Why would you recode-stream, dear lord.
[12:56:03] <nine> Probably was mpd you used, wasn't it?
[12:56:05] <aria> Well it also did flac and ogg and whatnot
[12:56:16] <aria> No, shoutcast
[12:56:21] <nine> Blech.
[12:56:48] <nine> Shoutcast is the last thing I would look at if I want LAN music streaming.
[12:57:06] <aria> I wouldn't recode for local streams...
[12:57:23] <nine> You would for WAN?
[12:57:25] <nine> Why the fuck.
[12:57:45] <nine> What use is a network music box if you're not gonna listen to it on your LAN?
[12:57:46] <aria> The way you do local streams is just playing the file over NAS =P
[12:58:00] <nine> Nah.
[12:58:02] <nine> Just go mpd.
[12:58:11] <nine> Stream to all.
[12:58:29] <nine> Playing files on NAS is hardly a local stream.
[12:58:33] <nine> It's at best an individual stream.
[12:59:02] <aria> I was making a joke, because streaming music within a LAN (unless a large area that is not a house) is silly
[12:59:40] <aria> I could rephrase it. "The way you stream music locally is that you don't"
[13:00:33] <nine> Yet you said you did.
[13:00:39] <nine> brb bills paying time
[13:01:06] <aria> ..
[13:01:10] <aria> No, it was over the internet
[13:01:18] <aria> hence wanting a lower bit rate
[13:01:34] <aria> Anyway, my point was, if that was more than a few moments to set up, I wouldn't have bothered
[13:01:48] <aria> So Ubuntu had mp3 support in 09.
[13:01:48] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
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[13:07:17] <nine> Hey there Blake.
[13:07:20] <nine> What's hanging?
[13:08:47] <nine> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
[13:08:56] <nine> IBAN's gonna be 18 characters.
[13:10:57] <nine> Welp, my IBAN's not gonna be that difficult.
[13:11:11] <nine> By virtue of my bank number being ezĀ²-modo.
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[13:20:06] <nine> Hi VentureJ(2).
[13:31:02] <VentureJ> what's up, guys?
[13:31:12] <VentureJ> That's VentureJ(Prime) thank you very much.
[13:31:27] <VentureJ> Did you do anything special for halloween?
[13:35:13] <nine> I'm Dutch.
[13:35:18] <nine> Also, it's not yet halloween.
[13:38:09] <VentureJ> I know.
[13:38:20] <VentureJ> Not about the Dutch part.
[13:38:27] <VentureJ> I didn't know what you were, specifically.
[13:39:11] <VentureJ> o[p
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[13:39:41] <nine> The wimp flees from my wrath.
[13:46:17] <nine> Oh, 5<3 aria. Another reason why I like Musicbee. The icon is a fat bee pooping a music note.
[13:47:15] <aria> ...
[13:47:26] <aria> Do you know what the mplayer icon is?
[13:47:36] <aria> Doesn't have one. It's a command line application.
[14:00:25] <nine> Mplayer? It's "MPlayer" with the MP in blue, and a play button.
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[14:00:50] <lukeburrage> Hey hey!
[14:00:51] <aria> mplayer doesn't have buttons silly
[14:00:52] <lukeburrage> http://youtu.be
[14:00:59] <aria> You press space and it plays!
[14:01:04] <nine> Yup.
[14:01:09] <nine> It still has a logo/icon though.
[14:01:19] <aria> Oh right
[14:01:26] <aria> yeah I suppose on the website they do
[14:01:35] <nine> It's baked in the source.
[14:01:55] <aria> There isn't anything else you wanna do in your bed, Luke?
[14:05:27] <nine> Hehehehehe, lukeburrage. You're very good at this entertaining job. :)
[14:06:01] <lukeburrage> I wrote that song in 1999. Back then I usually slept alone.
[14:10:48] <aria> Plenty of fun things to do in bed alone
[14:10:49] <nine> https://images.4chan.org "crystal weapon+5.gif"
[14:12:08] <aria> On the plus side, none of those things have more than 10hp left
[14:16:33] <nine> AHAHAHAHAHA.
[14:16:38] <nine> 5<3 aria.
[14:16:48] <Apsup> Latest xkcd would probably be more cool if I understood US politic better than just "there are rebublicans who are stupid and there are democrats who are less stupid"
[14:17:25] <aria> Link please
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[14:17:57] <bronzdragon> 'ello bro
[14:18:05] <Apsup> http://xkcd.com
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[14:19:23] <aria> Oh yeah..
[14:19:28] <aria> they just go on the front page
[14:19:34] <aria> also man that this a bunch of text
[14:19:39] <aria> also impossibly small font
[14:19:42] <aria> I can't read that!
[14:19:47] <Apsup> You can click it.
[14:19:57] <aria> Whaaaaat
[14:20:11] <Apsup> Then it's more readable, but still has tiny parts.
[14:21:42] <Apsup> Fuuu, two of my four players wont come to the rpg club tonight. I have no idea what to do. One character I can temorarely write out, but half of the crew won't work.
[14:22:33] <Apsup> If I had the contact information of other players I could just inform them that we don't play, but I have no such contact informations.
[14:22:55] <VentureJ> Are you able to just delay that?
[14:23:35] <Apsup> delay what?
[14:23:42] <VentureJ> that RPG thing
[14:24:37] <nine> aria: Are you stupid?
[14:24:41] <nine> Or using LYNX?
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[14:25:45] <Apsup> Not sure if I understand. You mean if I can just skip a session? Well yes as a GM I could say that we don't play this week, but doing so would feel a little dickish after people come to the club from who know how far.
[14:25:47] <bronzdragon> Apsup, do an ofshoot campaign. Play as merchants for one ruond.
[14:26:26] <Apsup> I wish I had a working priter, then I could probably find some one shot stuff from internet.
[14:27:11] <aria> Nine I can usually read a XKCDs just fine without clicking them, as they are 4 words long
[14:32:46] <nine> Yes, but you can clearly see it's a huge image.
[14:32:58] <nine> Something that's not unusual of xkcd to do.
[14:33:06] <nine> https://images.4chan.org
[14:35:56] <aria> Oh man that would be the best thing if you had fall control!
[14:36:19] <aria> Brb
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[14:36:38] <bronzdragon> ... what room do they fall into?
[14:37:26] <nine> Darkmoon Tomb.
[14:37:43] <Apsup> Heh, my local bar send me a little add and it's quite funny. In in they list things they have like: tasty affotable burgers and then there is "our new shitty biljard sticks". In the end there is small print "We are really sorry about those biljard sticks, they looked so much better on the product pictures."
[14:37:48] <nine> And fall control is useless for such huge drops.
[14:37:53] <nine> It only reduces non-fatal damage.
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[14:42:08] <bronzdragon> So, Apsup. What are you going to do?
[14:42:15] <nine> aria: Fall control doesn't reduce fatal fall damage.
[14:43:39] <aria> Doesn't it as long as it's not a bottomless pit?
[14:43:48] <nine> Nope.
[14:43:54] <aria> So say, you could jump from the entrence to the bottom of the great hollow
[14:44:02] <nine> Fatal falls, bottomless or not, will kill you regardless of fall control.
[14:44:24] <nine> You'd die from that drop.
[14:44:55] <aria> But what counts as fatal is dependant on how much HP you have..
[14:45:13] <aria> Can you die from stuff you'd die at at 9vit, but otherwise survive?
[14:46:26] * nine sighs.
[14:46:37] <nine> Fatal falls remain fatal.
[14:46:46] <Apsup> bronzdragon: I have no idea. I probably panic for few minutes now and then produce some kind of mad plan.
[14:46:49] <nine> Non-fatal falls will have reduced damage.
[14:47:15] <nine> Also, you silly console plebeian.
[14:47:27] <nine> Putting points in vit when casting magick!
[14:47:54] <aria> Saying the person with more vit than I have across my 20+ characters
[14:48:21] <aria> So if you have 99vit, but 1hp left
[14:48:24] <aria> any drop will kill you
[14:48:29] <aria> what happens if you use fall control?
[14:48:51] <nine> How much vit do I have?
[14:48:58] <aria> Like 30
[14:49:00] <nine> You'll die.
[14:49:03] <nine> And nope.
[14:49:36] <aria> You survive being hit by ceasless
[14:49:42] <bronzdragon> But Nine! What about fall control!
[14:49:47] <bronzdragon> =P
[14:50:01] <nine> I survive being hit by Ceaseless due to iframes.
[14:50:05] <nine> And fatrolling.
[14:50:16] <nine> bronzdragon: I already said.
[14:50:17] <nine> You'll die.
[14:50:25] <aria> You said that you survive being hit twice
[14:50:44] <nine> It doesn't negate all fall damage, so logically the minimum is 1hp damage, which would kill you in aria's example.
[14:50:49] <nine> What?
[14:51:09] <nine> aria: I know you can't ever remember a single fucking thing I say related to Dark Souls, but come on.
[14:51:12] <nine> Try harder.
[14:51:29] <aria> It's logged yknow.
[14:51:34] <aria> Google that shit
[14:52:29] <nine> You make the claim.
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[15:37:35] <creamsteak> rawr
[15:37:52] <aria> Rawr! I'm a dinosaur
[15:38:23] <creamsteak> I'm really more of an amphibian.
[15:38:33] <creamsteak> but with big pointy teeth.
[15:38:45] <bronzdragon> ... why do you keep changing
[15:38:50] <creamsteak> magic
[15:38:56] <bronzdragon> Doesn't seem very healthy...
[15:39:10] <creamsteak> My MP for your HP.
[15:43:58] <nine> Hi creamsteak
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[15:50:12] <nine> UBUNTU!
[15:50:14] <nine> MUAHAHAHAHA.
[15:50:21] <nine> No mocking retribution from that bot!
[15:50:23] <nine> MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
[15:58:14] <creamsteak> ^9
[15:58:27] <creamsteak> look I'm attempting to be clever!
[15:59:08] <creamsteak> Hrm... I think a co-worker is on edge today.
[16:03:44] <bronzdragon> How so?
[16:10:45] <creamsteak> there's a tinge of insanity to his voice
[16:10:49] <creamsteak> that's usually not there
[16:11:02] <creamsteak> pent up rage, agression, something
[16:11:08] <creamsteak> dude's going to stab a guy
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[16:12:58] <ProfPangloss|Work> creamsteak: Back up yo shit
[16:14:15] <nine> I thought you were talking about data backups for a moment there, ProfPangloss|Work.
[16:23:21] <ProfPangloss|Work> Well I mean, if he goes rogue user
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[17:02:12] <lukeburrage> Hey hey!
[17:03:55] <bronzdragon> Hai
[17:11:44] <nine> Yo yoshokatana.
[17:11:49] <yoshokatana> what's up?
[17:15:02] <nine> Another apartment.
[17:15:31] <yoshokatana> hm?
[17:15:56] <nine> Up.
[17:15:59] <nine> Above me.
[17:16:02] <nine> There's another apartment.
[17:16:10] <nine> Wasn't that what you asked of me? :3c
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[17:16:51] <yoshokatana> um...
[17:16:56] <yoshokatana> when did I ask this?
[17:17:00] <yoshokatana> oh
[17:17:03] <yoshokatana> .__________.
[17:17:06] <nine> 18:11 < yoshokatana> what's up?
[17:17:20] <nine> n___________n
[17:17:39] <yoshokatana> I think my roommate gave me a cold
[17:17:43] <yoshokatana> :-/
[17:17:58] <nine> Ugh.
[17:18:01] <nine> That sucks.
[17:18:04] <nine> That sucks hard.
[17:20:27] <nine> So how sick are you now?
[17:20:34] <yoshokatana> not too sick
[17:20:45] <yoshokatana> just a bit of a runny nose
[17:20:48] <nine> Don't get sicker.
[17:20:56] <yoshokatana> it's still in the "this could just be allergies" territory
[17:21:12] <nine> I don't have allergies.
[17:21:21] <yoshokatana> pah
[17:21:43] <yoshokatana> next time you'll tell me you live in a socialist utopia where people get free healthcare and cheap eduations
[17:22:02] <nine> I won't have to.
[17:22:08] <nine> Deep down inside your heart.
[17:22:14] <nine> You know the truth.
[17:22:20] <yoshokatana> at least I'm only allergic to dust
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[17:22:33] <nine> \:
[17:22:34] <yoshokatana> good thing I'm not REALLY INTO OLD SHIT AND BOOKS AND STUFF
[17:22:40] <nine> Hi VentureJ(2).
[17:23:17] <yoshokatana> I did construction for a few months
[17:23:20] <yoshokatana> that wasn't fun.
[17:23:23] <nine> You can play the part of the archeologist easily. Stylish enough.
[17:23:30] <nine> D:
[17:23:37] <yoshokatana> yeah, but I'd get into the tomb and start sneezing
[17:23:56] <nine> Would make a great comedic parody of Indiana Jones.
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[17:26:05] <nine> wb lukeburrage
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[17:26:34] <nine> Hi VentureJ1(2)
[17:26:50] <VentureJ1> D:
[17:27:06] <VentureJ1> I have been replicated multiple times.
[17:27:23] <VentureJ1> I may be having an existential crisis at the moment.
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[17:27:38] <nine> You've only been doubled.
[17:27:48] <nine> Easily explained by time-outs.
[17:27:54] <nine> You are afterall human.
[17:28:00] <yoshokatana> hey baby, want me to fix yo pipes?
[17:28:15] * yoshokatana transforms into brooklyn plumber
[17:28:29] <nine> NO!
[17:28:37] <nine> DON'T BECOME A FAT ITALIAN YOSHO!
[17:28:43] <nine> We need the refinement.
[17:28:47] <yoshokatana> I'm already a fat italian T_T
[17:29:02] <nine> Lies.
[17:29:15] <nine> You're a stylish gentleman.
[17:29:31] <yoshokatana> hmm
[17:29:44] <yoshokatana> you know what sucks?
[17:29:51] <yoshokatana> my girlfriend was going to come visit
[17:29:54] <nine> Whores when paid.
[17:29:57] <yoshokatana> (she's down in DC right now)
[17:30:05] <yoshokatana> but hurricane.
[17:30:13] <nine> Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiind.
[17:30:14] <nine> PANIC.
[17:31:06] <yoshokatana> brb
[17:36:15] <yoshokatana> back
[17:40:02] <nine> wby
[17:40:08] <yoshokatana> wby?
[17:40:16] <nine> Welcome back yoshokatana. :3
[17:40:22] <yoshokatana> ah
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[17:46:29] <nine> That's my cue.
[17:46:33] <nine> Bye folks.
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[17:46:48] <Coldguy> hi
[17:46:57] * Coldguy is working from home
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[17:54:28] <Neito> Haloween sale on Steam.
[17:54:31] <Neito> Horror games on sale.
[17:56:28] <Neito> Home is a $1.50, supposed to be pretty good.
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[18:03:10] <bronzdragon> What is a 'home'?
[18:03:14] <bronzdragon> Playstation Home?
[18:03:16] <bronzdragon> Isn't that free?
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[18:15:37] <Neito> No.
[18:15:40] <Neito> It's a horror game.
[18:15:53] <Neito> Why would Playstation Home be on Steam?
[18:16:07] <aria> What's happening in this image? Are they surfing in space outside the tardis? http://3.bp.blogspot.com
[18:17:31] <aria> Because what if you wanna play Playstation home
[18:17:50] <aria> Also, isn't there steam on PS3 as well?
[18:18:05] <Neito> Steamworks, but not Steam itself.
[18:18:33] <aria> What's the difference?
[18:18:53] <aria> Isn't Steamworks the online, DRM, and the trident overlay thingie?
[18:21:12] <GauntletWizard> The steam on PS3 is mostly the friend-connection bits
[18:21:19] <GauntletWizard> (basically an IM client)
[18:21:44] <aria> What a fitting thing to tie in with PlayStation Home then!
[18:22:20] <aria> I asked out of curiosity though, what's Steamworks?
[18:23:52] <GauntletWizard> Steamworks is, yes, the online, drm, overlay bits
[18:24:12] <GauntletWizard> The APIs that let you do achievements, game joining, etc.
[18:24:29] <aria> But that's all the bits other than the store -- which is just a website
[18:24:50] <aria> Does it have a browser on PS3?
[18:25:17] <aria> I'll assume no (or if yes, it suspends the game -- which hey, that's cool. I'm willing to wait a second for the game to pause and the browser to boot up)
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[19:07:21] <creamsteak> spacejam?
[19:07:47] <bronzdragon> Jam-space
[19:08:21] <okeefe> Stuck in NYC until tomorrow, but doing fine otherwise.
[19:08:42] <Coldguy> MAGFest?
[19:14:19] <Apsup> I'm back!
[19:17:38] <creamsteak> FestMAG
[19:18:19] <creamsteak> apparently all the policy documents I wrote are wrong because they didn't end with this:
[19:18:22] <creamsteak> apparently all the policy documents I wrote are wrong because they didn't end with this: 6. Associated Documents 6.1. None
[19:18:28] <creamsteak> lol
[19:18:37] <creamsteak> not sure how that did that
[19:18:38] <creamsteak> but whatevs
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[19:37:08] <creamsteak> Neito down
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[19:49:02] <creamsteak> Neito up
[19:53:03] <Neito> Huh?
[19:56:02] <creamsteak> 14:35 -!- Neito [neito@CC88F599.6DD38336.5E4272EE.IP] has quit [Ping timeout]
[19:56:06] <creamsteak> 14:36 < creamsteak> Neito down
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[19:56:10] <Neito> Ah.
[19:56:10] <creamsteak> 14:48 < creamsteak> Neito up
[19:56:19] <Neito> I just closed my laptop to go to a friend's dorm.
[19:56:29] <Neito> 'twas not a power outage.
[19:56:58] <Neito> If I had an external webcam, I'd power up a live stream and point it out the window.
[19:58:14] <creamsteak> someone should taunt muppet once every couple hours to make sure he's still got power
[20:00:06] <bronzdragon> We shoudl take turns
[20:05:25] <yoshokatana> jeez
[20:05:30] <yoshokatana> I just watched Battle for Haditha
[20:05:34] <yoshokatana> not a fun movie.
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[20:12:01] <creamsteak> rawr
[20:12:24] <bronzdragon> RAWR
[20:13:26] <creamsteak> curious how long I'll stay up for this time
[20:13:37] <creamsteak> apparently some equipment somewhere is failing yay
[20:13:48] <bronzdragon> =D
[20:14:59] <Neito> Dark Souls PC Download is currently 20 bucks on Amazon.
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[20:16:38] <bronzdragon> 20 bucks eh?
[20:16:42] <bronzdragon> Hmmmmmm...
[20:16:47] <aria> Hm...
[20:16:51] <bronzdragon> HEY!
[20:16:53] <aria> DLC is what, 40?
[20:16:55] <bronzdragon> It's aria~ =D
[20:16:58] <aria> Hm...
[20:17:03] <bronzdragon> 40?
[20:17:05] <bronzdragon> Nah...
[20:17:13] <bronzdragon> Can't be more then 20...
[20:17:17] <aria> Well Norway price
[20:17:55] <bronzdragon> 1200 MS points
[20:18:01] <bronzdragon> That's 15 dollars
[20:18:06] <aria> How much is that in mon-- right
[20:18:07] <bronzdragon> or 15 euros?
[20:18:28] <aria> If you buy the PC version, I will not punch you
[20:18:31] <aria> Good night
[20:18:34] <bronzdragon> =3
[20:18:37] <bronzdragon> Bai
[20:18:55] <aria> Neito; it's a good game, well worth the 20 USD if you have a gamepad
[20:19:08] <Neito> I have integrated graphics.
[20:19:11] <Neito> I doubt I can run it.
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[20:19:25] <aria> It runs on an xbox
[20:19:26] <bronzdragon> You might be able to?
[20:19:29] <bronzdragon> Wait, no, nevermind
[20:19:34] <bronzdragon> it runs at 5 frames on xbox
[20:19:38] <aria> Admitidly 5 FPS
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[20:19:41] <aria> Yes
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[20:20:25] <aria> If you have a intel i# then the integrated graphics will be enough
[20:20:36] <Neito> i5, pre-Sandy Bridge?
[20:20:44] <Neito> I can barely run CS:GO.
[20:20:45] <aria> Yeah, should be fine
[20:20:59] <aria> CS GO is HD
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[20:21:08] <aria> and has anisotropic filtering and whatnot
[20:21:23] <Neito> Eh. I don't have enough money to be risking it right now.
[20:21:30] <aria> Fair enough
[20:21:31] <Neito> I'll wait until I have money, or it's like a dollar.
[20:21:43] <spacejam> is it gonna go down
[20:21:56] <Neito> Everything does eventaully.
[20:22:09] <aria> Well good night
[20:22:27] <spacejam> indie games have more of a downslope overall
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[20:22:32] <Neito> Plus, I just bought a little pile of games.
[20:22:52] <Neito> They Bleeed Pixels, Home, Sam and Max Season 3, Lone Survivor, and a few others.
[20:23:59] <spacejam> looks like i should get a controller for this
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[20:30:06] <creamsteak> rawr?
[20:30:16] <Bronzdragon> Rawr!
[20:30:28] <creamsteak> someone in IT is an idiot... that's what I'm taking from this
[20:30:43] <creamsteak> last I heard "browsing to the switch disconnects the ethernet" wut?
[20:31:09] <Bronzdragon> Obvz!
[20:31:19] <creamsteak> apparently they keep testing this
[20:31:29] <creamsteak> and whats worse is that's actually the trigger for the problem
[20:31:36] <creamsteak> so what the fuck did someone do wrong to make that possible?
[21:07:16] <spacejam> switch = 192.168?
[21:07:29] <creamsteak> no
[21:08:12] <creamsteak> if you plug straight into the ethernet, your connection would stay up through this
[21:08:28] <creamsteak> the thing is they wire everyone's ethernet into their desk phones which then go into the PC
[21:08:39] <creamsteak> and the switch thing handles all the phone traffic
[21:08:45] <creamsteak> and it's apparently quite janky
[21:09:12] <creamsteak> the other week the problem was they had overloaded it, more phones than it could handle
[21:09:17] <spacejam> is voip always a pita
[21:09:33] <creamsteak> I don't have enough experience to tell you
[21:09:47] <spacejam> based on my two data points the answer is yes and yes
[21:09:53] <creamsteak> I'm just software dev, I'm only critical of the IT guys when my shit don't work
[21:10:15] <creamsteak> the rest of the time we're on the same team
[21:10:31] <spacejam> having IT guys sounds nice...
[21:10:48] <Neito> I'm coding using the light of some christmas lights while my friend blares Girls Generation. I think this is about as far from Hunter/Gatherer as you can get.
[21:10:58] <creamsteak> they should bitch equally if I were to do something equally fail like putting up code that took down the network or something
[21:11:48] <spacejam> are we all software devs here?
[21:11:58] <Neito> I'm a CS student.
[21:12:24] <spacejam> you write code so you're welcome to check the software dev box for this survey Neito
[21:13:03] <creamsteak> I did take down an OC3 for 3 minutes once... though the blame ended up getting rather muddled because bad data was input into a thing and it shouldn't have been possible for me to do that... that sucked.
[21:27:34] <creamsteak> so despite internet memes and south park, I actually did not see a single gangnam style person at any halloween event this weekend
[21:29:48] <yoshokatana> oh wow
[21:29:59] <yoshokatana> so, tonight all the east river bridges are being shut down
[21:30:09] <yoshokatana> this is some DMZ-type shit right here
[21:30:30] <spacejam> like capture the flag, manhattan vs queens
[21:30:50] <ProfPangloss|Work> yoshokatana: I might go home and play Prototype to celebrate
[21:30:55] <creamsteak> ok that idea sounds awesome
[21:40:18] <yoshokatana> oof, just had a brownout
[21:40:53] <creamsteak> fun times...
[21:45:55] <creamsteak> I checked every elevator. Simultaneously.
[21:50:24] <creamsteak> oy, home soon
[21:50:29] <creamsteak> good luck new york people
[21:50:37] <creamsteak> or east coast in general
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[23:54:30] <Neito> I think there are very few things better than being on a college campus when all classes are canceled.