#geeknights | Logs for 2012-10-21

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[00:05:31] <pence> many boardgames were played
[00:05:41] <aria> Hey Pence
[00:05:48] <aria> Do you use Netflix?
[00:05:51] <pence> Coldguy: I still don't know who you were, but if you were one of the people in that viva java game you're probably a cool dude
[00:06:00] <aria> How do you make it work under Linux? Cause it doesn't let me..
[00:06:01] <pence> aria: yeah
[00:06:29] <pence> I actually use win7 :P I haven't used linux since college
[00:07:15] <pence> I wouldn't mind having a shell somewhere though, so I don't feel all janky running robobuntu on my PC
[00:07:27] <aria> Oh, I see
[00:07:56] <aria> It works on ChromeOS
[00:07:57] <aria> and Roku
[00:08:02] <aria> And Ubuntu TV
[00:08:02] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[00:08:15] <aria> But not regular desktop Linux
[00:08:32] <aria> Currently I have to use the Xbox or iPad
[00:09:01] <ShadedSpriter> Last time I installed linux - I only did it because the harddrive was broken and I couldn't figure out how to mount XP onto a USB drive.
[00:10:20] <aria> So I asked them
[00:10:30] <aria> "We would stream to a toaster if we could"
[00:11:42] <okeefe> There's Ubuntu TV? I had an Ubuntu box running Boxee hooked up to my tv for a few years.
[00:11:43] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[00:12:26] <aria> It's Unity with more tabs and grids
[00:12:51] <aria> Does Netflix work in Boxee or XBMC?
[00:14:45] <okeefe> Boxee promised Netflix integration, but it never arrived. (Maybe it existed in their hw Boxee Box, but I didn't buy one.) XBMC is doubtful -- I don't think there's any Linux + Netflix support (or wasn't last I looked).
[00:15:11] <aria> Ugh =/
[00:15:24] <aria> So not only do I not get the full library, I also don't get to use it on the desktop?
[00:48:08] <pence> ahh there we go, found coldguy's picture on the forums; he's actually the guy who was trying to get a game of spot it going as I was leaving
[00:49:09] <aria> So you didn't get to talk to coldguy? =(
[00:49:17] <aria> But we like talking!
[00:49:24] <okeefe> It's cool that a lot of forumites are going to Burning Con. I guess I'll just ask people if they listen to GeekNights? Did I miss the secret handshake?
[00:50:00] <aria> You could have a namesign with your online handles
[00:50:56] <okeefe> I do have a button with my avatar on it (from another forum/con combo), but I don't know how weird it'd be to just be wearing it.
[00:51:28] <aria> You should hire someone to walk behind you with a sign
[00:54:37] <pence> are you going to be at the friday party?
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[00:59:21] <okeefe> Of course!
[01:01:15] <pence> excellent!
[01:02:22] <pence> I'm going to be running Mouse Guard, I want to see how the games break down numbers-wise
[02:24:44] <yoshokatana> I'll be the guy in a suit and fedora
[02:25:04] <pence> that MIGHT not be specific enough, although the suit might push you over the edge
[02:25:32] <yoshokatana> hmm
[02:25:41] <yoshokatana> well then, I'll wear a three-piece for you ;-)
[02:25:56] <yoshokatana> (I was probably going to anyway)
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[03:42:09] <Apsup> Morning
[03:48:04] <aria> Mor--
[03:48:08] <aria> Its fucking 5am!
[03:50:15] <nine> Hi
[03:54:52] <Apsup> Soon to be 7 am actually. I'm just waiting for other people in the house to wake up.
[03:56:39] <aria> Huh?
[03:56:42] <aria> 7? Not 6?
[03:56:53] <aria> I thought we were in the same timezone
[03:56:56] <Apsup> 06:56
[03:57:20] <Apsup> I once corrected yoy on that already.
[03:57:32] <aria> oh---
[04:00:05] <Apsup> Somewhat funny that the one time I wake up super early is the one time my mom doesn't.
[04:01:23] <Apsup> Would like some morning coffee, but I want to wait someone else to get up too before making it.
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[05:15:15] <Coldguy> damn
[05:15:23] <Coldguy> 12 hours of gaming
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[06:36:04] <pence> I wimped out after 6 :P
[06:36:40] <pence> I think I figured out which guy you were by stalking you in the 'what do you look like' thread, pax east t-shirt who was trying to get a game of spot it going just as I was leaving after that VivaJava game
[06:39:48] <aria> This chuck show is kinda fun
[06:39:52] <aria> Im enjoying this random episode
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[06:53:36] <Aleksi> Noo! Robobuntu! You cant die 10 times.
[07:07:16] <okeefe> Robobuntu needs... pokemon.
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[07:09:29] <okeefe> It's back!
[07:10:04] <pence> he was only gone six minutes
[07:10:05] <Robobuntu> six minutes, can't lose!
[07:12:48] <nine> hi
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[07:18:00] <okeefe> I guess that's how nine rolls.
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[07:27:57] <aria> So last episode had the main from superman return, and this episode had lana from smallville ^o)
[07:28:16] <aria> Im enjoying this show more than I thought I would
[07:32:34] <Aleksi> What show?
[07:33:21] Aleksi is now known as Apsupp
[07:33:39] <aria> "Chuck"
[07:33:42] <aria> Its on netflix
[07:34:14] <okeefe> The only thing I'm watching at the moment is Breaking Bad. Still catching up; in season two.
[07:39:46] <aria> Its not bad
[07:39:49] <aria> I kinda like it
[07:39:55] <aria> Its campy
[07:39:55] <aria> But eh
[07:44:35] <Apsupp> I wonder what category on the forums would be the best for a cartoon thread. Both comics/manga and anime categories has cartoon content, but which would be better.
[07:45:17] <okeefe> Static or animated?
[07:46:45] <Apsupp> Talking about animated cartoons. And series, movies would obviously go to movies category.
[07:47:53] <aria> anime probs
[07:48:14] <okeefe> Definitely anime.
[07:49:55] <Apsupp> I was thinking about anime too. It seems to have more cartoon content than manga/comics. And like manga/comics anime could be anime/cartoons.
[07:55:08] <okeefe> What, they made a Quest for Glory 4!? http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:57:39] <okeefe> And a V!
[08:11:08] <okeefe> "Space Quest" "sequel"! http://www.kickstarter.com
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[11:57:18] <Bronzdragon> Hai
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[12:15:56] <Bronzdragon> hai Kulag.
[12:16:04] <Bronzdragon> Are you a half spider lady?
[12:16:37] <aria> Ima go with yes
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[14:02:54] <ruffas> mornin folks
[14:03:23] <Bronzdragon> Hey ruffas
[14:06:52] <ruffas> this is the laziest of sundays
[14:07:29] <Bronzdragon> Did you get out of bed yet?
[14:09:54] <Coldguy> Damn this is still great footage
[14:09:56] <Coldguy> http://www.youtube.com
[14:14:58] <ruffas> nope
[14:15:05] <ruffas> still inbed
[14:16:06] <Bronzdragon> good
[14:16:10] <Bronzdragon> Aren't you hungry?
[14:18:38] <Bronzdragon> Crap, now I am./
[14:29:13] <ruffas> nope
[14:29:18] <ruffas> just sleepy
[14:29:25] <Bronzdragon> I got the burst laser Mark III
[14:29:32] <Bronzdragon> it does 5 lasers in a burst...
[14:29:33] <ruffas> in?
[14:29:38] <Bronzdragon> FTL, 'course!
[14:29:44] <ruffas> ahh
[14:29:51] <Bronzdragon> 4 energy though...
[14:29:53] <Bronzdragon> So... yeah
[14:30:13] <ruffas> i need to turn on the a/c so i can comfortable use blanket and be extra lazy
[14:30:25] <Bronzdragon> #firstworldproblems
[14:30:39] <Bronzdragon> Also, I prefer to be blanketed top-down
[14:30:46] <Bronzdragon> *waist down
[14:30:48] <Bronzdragon> sorry, words
[14:31:16] <ruffas> :p
[14:31:32] <ruffas> i usually prefer waist up if not fully covered
[14:31:40] <ruffas> because my legs warm themselves
[14:32:01] <Bronzdragon> If my feet aren't coverd, they almost instantly turn to ice
[14:32:29] <ruffas> feet, yeah
[14:32:35] <ruffas> i get icy toes sometimes
[14:33:21] <Bronzdragon> You could keep wearing socks, but why are you even in bed at that point?
[14:33:24] <ruffas> in "winter" usually
[14:33:33] <ruffas> fuck socks
[14:33:58] <ruffas> it was under 26C the other day
[14:34:00] <Bronzdragon> .... I only have 4 energy total, due to ion storm
[14:34:10] <Bronzdragon> I can choose, weapons, shield, or oxygen?
[14:34:19] <Bronzdragon> Under 26? OH NOES
[14:34:31] <Bronzdragon> (choose 2, I mean)
[14:34:54] <ruffas> def not O2
[14:35:16] <Bronzdragon> Correct choice
[14:35:22] <Bronzdragon> I shot thear weapons, now I can disable shields
[14:35:43] <ruffas> pew pew
[14:35:55] <Bronzdragon> Whee~
[14:37:20] <ruffas> i didn't know my roommate snores
[14:37:34] <Bronzdragon> How long has he been your roommate?
[14:37:37] <Bronzdragon> Also,
[14:37:42] <Bronzdragon> It could just be he has a clogged nose
[14:37:58] <ruffas> bit under a year
[14:38:18] <ruffas> and it's not a full on snore, just a mild one
[14:45:46] <ruffas> florida why u so hot?
[14:55:00] <Bronzdragon> This is why; http://wallpaperdesigns.co.cc
[15:17:15] <ruffas> meh
[15:17:43] <ruffas> she ain't responsible for our terrible weather
[15:19:14] <Bronzdragon> =P
[15:19:19] <Bronzdragon> Fair enough
[15:24:08] <Bronzdragon> Oh no! I have to leave behind an augment =(
[15:25:00] <ruffas> oh no!
[15:25:48] <Bronzdragon> =(
[15:26:22] <ruffas> our sometimes cat has gotten pretty fat
[15:26:29] <ruffas> certainly more than he used to be
[15:26:51] <Bronzdragon> Double dipping on the feeding?
[15:27:00] <ruffas> well, yeah
[15:27:33] <ruffas> because he's also the neighbor's sometimes cat
[15:28:15] <Bronzdragon> =O
[15:30:09] <Bronzdragon> ... So... the game is "You find a couple of slaves, you don't want to force them all to work for you but... "
[15:30:36] <Bronzdragon> 1. Demand race A work for you, 2. Demand race B work for you or 3. Demand Race 3 work for you
[15:30:49] <Bronzdragon> So... I'm gonna force a slave to work for me regardless, and I can't say no?
[15:30:59] <Bronzdragon> But heaven forbid all 3, that would be immoral!
[15:31:37] <ruffas> nope
[15:31:43] <ruffas> gotta have ost of the slaves
[15:31:47] <ruffas> most*
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[15:49:11] <Bronzdragon> Hey, Apsup
[15:53:32] <ruffas> howdy
[15:53:44] <ruffas> today is still the laziest sunday
[16:00:23] <ruffas> i had to get out of bed to get my gameboy
[16:00:28] <ruffas> to play the pokemans
[16:01:54] <Apsup> Home sweet home. Back from my weekend visit to my parents' house.
[16:04:30] <ruffas> ME TOO
[16:04:36] <ruffas> CAPS
[16:05:38] <Bronzdragon> CAPS
[16:05:41] <Bronzdragon> OUR SHIP IS ON FIRE
[16:05:44] <Bronzdragon> WHAT DO, CAPS?
[16:06:27] <ruffas> KILL IT WITH FIRE
[16:06:52] <Bronzdragon> Good plan!
[16:10:19] <ruffas> our sometimes cat ate my roommate's penguin backpack's arm
[16:12:38] <Bronzdragon> ... That's why he's fat!
[16:12:53] <Bronzdragon> He's actually 2 animals nested inside of each other now
[16:16:52] <ruffas> matroshka cat?
[16:17:47] <Bronzdragon> Yup
[16:21:39] <ruffas> cool
[16:21:52] <ruffas> yo dawg, i heard you like cats
[16:23:51] <Bronzdragon> I was gonna say that, but then I didn't
[16:28:41] <ruffas> i did it for you
[16:30:54] <Bronzdragon> Thank you.
[16:34:28] <ruffas> of course
[16:49:26] <Bronzdragon> ...
[16:49:34] <Bronzdragon> Well, seems we're at an impass...
[16:49:41] <Bronzdragon> I can't kill them, and they can't kill me...
[16:56:43] <Bronzdragon> ... fuck, dinner mid boss battle
[16:56:45] <Bronzdragon> Augh!
[16:56:51] <Bronzdragon> Just as it went awry too!
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[17:13:00] <okeefe> "Dinner"?
[17:24:26] <Bronzdragon> I'm European scum
[17:24:32] <Bronzdragon> I eat dinner now-ish
[17:28:37] <okeefe> Ah, I was imagining some sort of in-game dinner mid boss battle. Which sounds terrible and awesome.
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[17:35:43] <Bronzdragon> ... it does!
[17:36:24] <okeefe> "Captain, we're taking heavy losses and you've been invited to dinner!"
[17:40:45] <Bronzdragon> Y'know what? That'd be awesome
[17:41:53] <okeefe> "Seal off decks eight through twelve, and tell the ambassador I'll be bringing wine."
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[18:37:22] <bronzdragon> so...
[18:37:23] <bronzdragon> guys
[18:45:57] <ruffas> soooo
[19:04:35] <Apsup> yeaa...
[19:07:52] <bronzdragon> I have XFCE now
[19:08:00] <bronzdragon> I hope it'll speed up my laptop!
[19:09:06] <ruffas> one could hope
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[19:41:35] <aria> He went from Unity
[19:41:38] <aria> so it probably will
[19:50:47] <pence> http://www.burningwheel.org burning con schedule!
[19:51:24] <pence> I got Saturday morning... looks like Rym did, too
[19:59:47] <bronzdragon> Heeey
[19:59:53] <aria> Hey
[20:00:14] <bronzdragon> How much I care about burning con: 5
[20:01:38] <pence> out of how many numbers?
[20:01:54] <bronzdragon> I don't think interest has a top list
[20:01:58] <bronzdragon> *limit
[20:02:43] <pence> so you have homeopathic interest
[20:06:35] <bronzdragon> MORE LIKE HOMO-PATHETIC
[20:06:47] <bronzdragon> ... wait, did I insult my own interests? Eh well.
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[20:09:56] <bronzdragon> hi Zappy
[20:10:02] <Zappy> hey
[20:16:40] <okeefe> I'm also Saturday morning.
[20:19:36] <pence> hm... looks like it's Sunday or nothing if I wanna play FreeMarket then
[20:19:54] <okeefe> Tim's a good superuser.
[20:21:32] <pence> hm... I'm gonna support my buddy who's never run Burning Wheel in that Sunday slot, but if he fills up I'll go for Tim's game
[20:23:28] <pence> oh damn, John Stavropoulos is running in the slot where I have 1st priority
[20:23:36] <pence> but it's Dogs, and I'm kinda eh on Dogs
[20:24:24] <okeefe> I'll try for Vincent's game that slot. I'm a backer for Seclusium.
[20:24:27] <pence> also Vincent Baker running LotFP
[20:24:28] <pence> yeah
[20:24:50] <pence> I like how he can break the rules and run a game he didn't design because he made the module :P
[20:24:58] <okeefe> I don't care about Lamentations particularly, but omg Wizard Strongholds, sign me up.
[20:25:36] <okeefe> Hacks are allowed. I imagine getting approval in this case was easy.
[20:25:59] <pence> yeah
[20:26:13] <pence> it's probably a good sign that there are 2-3 in most of these time slots that I want to play
[20:26:37] <okeefe> Our priority is shit towards the end, so it's more what can we get into.
[20:27:36] <pence> yeah
[20:28:20] <pence> I think the only one I will gnash my teeth about is that 9 player inheritance LARP
[20:28:38] <pence> I want some of that action
[20:28:52] <ruffas> inheritance LARP?
[20:31:21] <pence> also a lot of Dungeoneers & Dragonslayers going around
[20:31:30] <pence> I want to know where these people are getting the rules
[20:31:52] <okeefe> Inheritance was one of Luke's early scenarios for BW.
[20:32:37] <okeefe> Well, Dro is one of Luke's friends. I don't know the other guy.
[20:33:30] <pence> hm
[20:34:15] <ruffas> oh, i thought it was some special rules or something
[20:34:21] <pence> and I dunno who Topi Makonnen is either
[20:34:36] <pence> you might just get the rules if you're a viking
[20:34:37] <okeefe> Ds&Ds is, currently, a MG hack.
[20:35:39] <okeefe> I'm impressed someone is running Under a Serpent Sun.
[20:36:31] <okeefe> No Poison'd! That's a little sad.
[20:37:25] <pence> I've still never actually played Poison'd
[20:37:47] <pence> although I did play a BW one-off that was basically Poison'd but with orcs
[20:38:26] <okeefe> That sounds awesome.
[20:45:45] <okeefe> I should probably reread BWG's Fight mechanics before the con.
[20:48:28] <pence> Tackle | Lock | Lock
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[20:49:09] <Timo> Ubuntu
[20:49:09] <Robobuntu> oo-BOON-too
[20:49:16] <bronzdragon> 'ello
[20:49:20] <Timo> Night
[20:49:47] <Timo> I love you oo-BOON-too bot
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[20:52:52] <ruffas> Robobuntu's great
[20:53:44] <bronzdragon> What's better then 1 Robobuntu? 6 Robobuntus
[20:53:44] <Robobuntu> 6 robobuntus, can't lose!
[20:54:11] <okeefe> If only we could get ten Robobuntus.
[20:54:12] <Robobuntu> you can't get ten robobuntus!
[20:56:40] <ruffas> i wonder why he didn't capitalize that
[20:57:33] <bronzdragon> because it looked weird when he said you can't GET TEN ROBOBUNTUS
[20:57:33] <Robobuntu> you can't get ten robobuntus!
[20:59:34] <ruffas> that's interesting
[20:59:35] <pence> it's just lowercasing everything before it spits it back
[20:59:51] <ruffas> but why?
[21:01:30] <pence> mostly because the "you can't" is always lowercase
[21:11:01] <ruffas> ahh
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[21:41:31] <yoshokatana> hmm
[21:41:43] <ruffas> hmmm
[21:41:56] <yoshokatana> the problem with e-learning, udacity, coursera, kahn academy (etc) is that there are too many cool things to learn
[21:42:09] <yoshokatana> for instance
[21:42:19] <yoshokatana> Computational Neuroscience? Yes please!
[21:42:35] <ruffas> mmhmm
[21:42:42] <yoshokatana> but also Linear and Discrete Optimization
[21:42:50] <yoshokatana> and Natural Language Processing
[21:43:03] <yoshokatana> and, well, I'm a programmer, so I should learn some basic math right?
[21:44:16] <ruffas> obviously
[21:44:22] <yoshokatana> like, say, some statistics and oh wait
[21:44:25] <yoshokatana> what's this?
[21:44:35] <yoshokatana> Analytic Combinatorics?
[21:44:38] <yoshokatana> that sounds interesting
[21:44:51] <yoshokatana> it's calculus with a focus on predictive modeling
[21:45:21] <ruffas> that's not even a real word!
[21:45:22] <yoshokatana> and maybe I should learn some macroeconomics
[21:45:35] <yoshokatana> and game theory
[21:45:47] <yoshokatana> and take a fun neuroethics course
[21:46:15] <yoshokatana> but I should also take some neurobiology courses so I understand the ethics course
[21:46:32] <yoshokatana> and, while I'm at it, why not also take a course on neural networks and machine learning?
[21:47:28] <yoshokatana> and you know what's funny?
[21:47:55] <ruffas> wazzat?
[21:48:03] <yoshokatana> the alternative to all this, community college, costs about $800 per class and doesn't have anything this interesting
[21:48:27] <aria> Community collage costs money?
[21:48:35] <yoshokatana> in the US it does
[21:48:48] <ruffas> barring scholarships
[21:48:52] <yoshokatana> and the classes are generally high-school level
[21:49:02] <ruffas> its basically 13th grade
[21:49:06] <yoshokatana> yeah
[21:49:14] <yoshokatana> like
[21:49:16] <yoshokatana> pre-algebra
[21:49:25] <yoshokatana> you know what kind of pisses me off?
[21:50:28] <yoshokatana> in the US public education system (at least, in my experience), we spend about 10 years learning basic algebra and arithmetic, with only a smattering of geometry and trigonometry mixed in
[21:50:28] <Robobuntu> you can't about 10 years!
[21:50:45] <yoshokatana> and if you're really, really lucky, you might get some basic calculus or statistic (I didn't)
[21:51:22] <yoshokatana> why does it take that long to teach such basic material?
[21:51:26] <yoshokatana> are americans stupid?
[21:51:36] <aria> We did a bunch of Calculus in middle school. I sucked at it =P
[21:51:42] <yoshokatana> is it a "pandering to the lowest common denominator" thing?
[21:52:07] <yoshokatana> I would actually skip class in 11th and 12th grade to hang out in the calc teacher's room
[21:52:10] <yoshokatana> and try to learn shit
[21:52:50] <ruffas> it's definitely a LCD thing
[21:52:58] <ruffas> especially in poorer areas
[21:53:12] <aria> So Bronz just explained to me that in America
[21:53:23] <aria> Private schools are superior to government run schools
[21:53:35] <yoshokatana> yep
[21:53:37] <aria> And that they don't allow everyone in
[21:53:42] <aria> Thats the opposite of how its here
[21:53:45] <ruffas> or they're christian schools
[21:53:52] <ruffas> usually catholic
[21:54:06] <aria> A private school is generally looked down on. But public schools only let you in if you meet a billion requirements
[21:54:18] <aria> While a private school will take anyone as long as you pay
[21:54:29] <yoshokatana> weird
[21:55:36] <ruffas> yeah
[21:55:40] <aria> Eh I think our system makes more sense...
[21:56:33] <aria> So that tax payer money isn't used on people who don't pay attention in class.
[21:56:59] <ruffas> what are some of the requirements?
[21:57:29] <aria> Good grades, X number of classes, X, Z and Y class
[21:58:43] <ruffas> how can you have grades if you're not in school?
[21:59:10] <aria> High school grades...
[21:59:48] <ruffas> i meant grade school
[22:00:08] <aria> Private grade school?
[22:00:19] <ruffas> public?
[22:00:29] <ruffas> is it the same as what you described before?
[22:00:32] <aria> There is only public grade school
[22:00:37] <ruffas> ahh
[22:00:45] <aria> Well I guess that's not true..
[22:01:20] <aria> But there are very very few private grade schools, cause there is no market for it
[22:01:31] <aria> You usually go to the closest grade school
[22:01:35] <aria> also closest middle school
[22:01:58] <aria> then depending on the grades you got and classes you took in middle school, you go to a high school that will let you in
[22:02:14] <ruffas> http://imgur.com
[22:02:15] <aria> And then again for uni
[22:02:45] <ruffas> so people don't go out of their way to get into a good grade school?
[22:03:59] <aria> No
[22:04:15] <aria> They're all the same really
[22:04:23] <aria> You just go to whichever is the closest
[22:04:38] <ruffas> that's really different
[22:04:44] <aria> Espcially because we don't have school buses; You don't wanna walk 15 minutes every morning =P
[22:05:54] <ruffas> oh no...15 minutes
[22:06:07] <ruffas> it takes me 15 minutes to walk my driveway
[22:06:25] <bronzdragon> 'MURICA
[22:07:10] <ruffas> that's more of a living in the sticks thing
[22:07:22] <aria> We don'
[22:07:25] <aria> t like walking
[22:08:15] <ruffas> it's good for you
[22:12:51] <ruffas> i wish i lived somewhere where walking was a viable option
[22:32:44] <bronzdragon> I like walking...
[22:36:01] <aria> How did you travel to elementary?
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[22:38:07] <ruffas> mom drove me
[22:38:27] <ruffas> because we lived in the sticks, i'd have had to get on the bus ~6am
[22:38:42] <aria> Every morning?
[22:38:50] <aria> Oh man you're lucky
[22:38:57] <bronzdragon> ^
[22:39:52] <ruffas> yeah
[22:40:01] <ruffas> rode the bus home in high school
[22:40:06] <ruffas> until car
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[22:59:31] <aria> Well good night Ruffas
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[22:59:32] <aria> And others
[22:59:39] <ruffas> g'night
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