#geeknights | Logs for 2012-10-02

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[00:04:45] <aria> =O
[00:04:45] <aria> =(
[00:05:40] <ruffas> i scared them off
[00:06:25] <aria> You and your evil looking stray cat!
[00:06:36] <aria> You should give it cute cat ears or something
[00:07:19] <ruffas> strayish cat is way cute
[00:07:38] <aria> Well of course, it's a cat!
[00:11:34] <ruffas> and not evil
[00:11:45] <ruffas> possibly ambivalent
[00:12:12] <aria> Cats are totally evil!
[00:12:23] <aria> Otherwise, why do they always land on their feet?
[00:12:43] <ruffas> someone posted a video about that
[00:13:06] <aria> I bet you it explained it as a deal with the devil
[00:13:12] <ruffas> http://www.youtube.com
[00:13:40] <aria> I saw that video
[00:13:49] <ruffas> magic
[00:22:41] <aria> Why is this new CG 009 cyborg not 60fps?
[00:22:54] <aria> I mean, it's litterally just changing a setting
[00:24:20] <ruffas> what's it matter?
[00:24:46] <aria> Cause (maybe its just this youtube) its not even 25 it seems
[00:25:15] <aria> I was torn about the CG, but figured at least it'll have a decent framerate, as opposed to how modern shit looks
[00:25:19] <ruffas> i spect it might be a few more than that
[00:25:32] <aria> But then the youtube wasn't 100% smooth..
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[00:31:02] <aria> Wait fuck, did I disconnect?
[00:32:12] <ruffas> yep
[00:35:55] <ruffas> so 七転び八起き basically means http://www.youtube.com
[00:37:26] <aria> I can't even read that right
[00:37:52] <ruffas> ななころびやおき
[00:38:16] <aria> ah
[00:39:46] <ruffas> i just think it's silly how well tubthumpin fits it
[00:40:24] <ruffas> also, dreamatones sound amazing
[00:40:34] <ruffas> http://www.youtube.com
[00:40:42] <aria> Whats that?
[00:40:47] <aria> Oh a band?
[00:40:59] <aria> No wait, is it the piano thing?
[00:41:03] <ruffas> dreamatones are basically electric organs
[00:41:16] <aria> I see
[00:42:28] <aria> Yup
[00:42:30] <aria> thats pretty great
[00:42:48] <ruffas> apparently 3 of my japanese students can play them
[00:43:06] <aria> Are they different from regular keyboards?
[00:43:25] <aria> Also, huh? You teach Japanese students in the states?
[00:43:38] <ruffas> international english school
[00:43:58] <ruffas> and they're like an organ: two sets of keys, lots of foot pedals
[00:44:20] <aria> Right
[00:45:25] <ruffas> organs are cool
[00:45:39] <aria> They are!
[00:45:43] <aria> Also expensive
[00:46:32] <ruffas> very
[00:46:40] <ruffas> i imagine dreamatones are slightly less so
[00:47:53] <aria> Only slightly =P?
[00:48:13] <aria> Damn
[00:48:15] <aria> out of youtubes
[00:50:10] <ruffas> ~600 euro used
[00:51:25] <aria> And a organ =P?
[00:52:44] <ruffas> ~$20k+
[00:53:15] <aria> Yup.
[00:54:54] <ruffas> only slightly more expensive
[00:59:17] <ruffas> http://www.youtube.com
[00:59:33] <aria> I clicked that
[01:00:27] <ruffas> these things make cool noises
[01:01:01] <ruffas> she seems to be playing these songs without sheet music too
[01:01:41] <aria> She's just making it up as she goes. And then the person recording find the best matching song!
[01:02:15] <ruffas> never mind that the noises seems to match her fingers
[01:02:19] <ruffas> that's just clever editing
[01:02:47] <aria> No no, she's playing it live. She's just not trying to play that specific song
[01:02:59] <aria> It just so happens to match
[01:03:06] <ruffas> riiiight
[01:10:37] <aria> Hrm, I'm dabating giving dvorak another try
[01:10:55] <ruffas> why?
[01:10:59] <ruffas> why would you even?
[01:11:07] <aria> Cause I'm out of youtubes to watch..
[01:11:31] <aria> I liked learning it
[01:11:36] <aria> I switched back because new computer
[01:11:53] <aria> And typing commands whilist typing slow sucks =P
[01:12:05] <aria> But yknow, that was like 2 years ago
[01:12:07] <ruffas> and there's no appreciable difference
[01:12:21] <aria> It's totally way more fun
[01:12:55] <aria> I don't slam the keys as hard, I do symbols more easily
[01:13:30] <ruffas> symbols?
[01:13:48] <aria> You know, non-letter characters
[01:14:02] <aria> I never use other people's computers, so it's not like I'll get used to it and suck at qwerty
[01:14:11] <aria> besides, I don't think I could ever unlearn qwerty =P
[01:14:29] <ruffas> you could learn something useful
[01:14:36] <aria> At 3am?
[01:14:43] <ruffas> sure
[01:14:52] <aria> Sure, suggest something
[01:15:46] <ruffas> learn to read cyrillic
[01:15:57] <aria> Thats way less useful!
[01:16:12] <aria> Typing is what I do most! Imagine it being fun!
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[01:17:52] <ruffas> can't do
[01:17:56] <Coldguy> hi
[01:18:01] <aria> Hello!
[01:18:09] <ruffas> how fun do you think it would be learning dvorak?
[01:18:27] <aria> Already learned it
[01:18:43] <aria> Didn't take too long.
[01:18:48] <aria> The fun part is typing
[01:19:02] <ruffas> okaaay?
[01:19:25] <aria> Also this... http://www.buzzfeed.com
[01:20:03] <ruffas> oh, it's the barbie girl with makeup on
[01:20:15] <ruffas> i thought it was going to be another crazy lady
[01:20:26] <aria> I hadn't seen it before
[01:20:37] <aria> There's a picture with 2 crazy people at once
[01:21:15] <ruffas> oh shit! forgot that the mythbusters were coming soon
[01:21:18] <ruffas> need to buy tickets
[01:21:27] <aria> Wait what?
[01:21:31] <aria> Tickets for mythbusters?
[01:21:39] <ruffas> yeah
[01:21:44] <ruffas> they're coming to my uni
[01:21:47] <aria> Oh!
[01:22:00] <aria> I thought there was a new season of the show or something
[01:24:09] <ruffas> nope
[01:24:16] <ruffas> just doing takies
[01:26:54] <ruffas> do you have them in norwegian?
[01:27:04] <aria> Have what?
[01:27:09] <ruffas> mythbusters
[01:27:24] <aria> Well we have the american show airing on Norwegian TV
[01:27:32] <ruffas> but not a dub
[01:27:42] <aria> We don't dub anything here
[01:28:29] <aria> Some cartoons get dubbed. But it's never the default language
[01:28:33] <ruffas> ahh
[01:29:14] <ruffas> are y'all prolific producers of media?
[01:29:23] <ruffas> besides that silly alphabet song
[01:29:38] <aria> Hey, thats a good song!
[01:29:56] <ruffas> it's silly
[01:29:56] <aria> (no)
[01:30:24] <aria> I found something to do!
[01:30:43] <Coldguy> they are actaully faily easy to come do a live appearence
[01:30:53] <Coldguy> in college I talked to their agent
[01:31:07] <ruffas> they've only done two near me
[01:31:15] <ruffas> and i missed the first one due to lack of car
[01:31:31] <aria> Watch an old episode of a show Im subscribed to that has switched out one of the hosts with a shitty one. The last episode with the good host -- which I missed. Maybe they'll mention why the good host left
[01:31:36] <ruffas> i figure it's worth ~$50 to see them
[01:31:49] <aria> None of your friends could drive you there?
[01:31:56] <aria> or public transport?
[01:31:56] <ruffas> and i imagine they'd be pretty easy to get out to spread the science
[01:32:12] <ruffas> 1) it's a 6 hour drive total
[01:32:28] <ruffas> 2) we don't have public transport or seasons in florida
[01:32:31] <ruffas> not really
[01:39:16] <ruffas> florida was totally going to get a bullet train
[01:40:00] <ruffas> but our idiot governor turned down the oodles of free government money
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[01:40:50] <ruffas> welcome back
[01:43:26] <aria> Hello there!
[01:44:29] <Coldguy> hi
[01:45:53] <ruffas> so, i'm going to a taiwanese a capella concert tomorrow for taiwan's 100th anniversary
[01:46:14] <aria> Are you saying I'm older than Taiwan?
[01:46:16] <aria> (/10)
[01:46:52] <ruffas> that's not at all what i'm saying
[01:47:14] <aria> But is it true?
[01:47:25] <ruffas> that you are more than 10 years old?
[01:47:33] <aria> Yes
[01:48:06] <ruffas> presumably
[01:48:41] <aria> Good!
[01:48:43] <aria> I like being older than 10
[01:49:09] <ruffas> do you really remember much of being younger than 10?
[01:49:30] <aria> ...
[01:49:41] <aria> Life before I turned 10 might've been awesome *.*
[01:49:43] <aria> Well damn
[01:50:27] <ruffas> exactly!
[01:57:45] <VentureJ> What is going on here?
[01:58:20] <aria> I wanna know why LAS has a shitty host now
[01:58:46] <ruffas> LAS?
[01:58:53] <aria> Linux Action Show
[01:59:00] <ruffas> oh...
[01:59:57] <aria> They make fun of a distro per episode, and have a 2 app-picks and usually a news segment
[02:02:09] <Coldguy> free music day http://www.youtube.com
[02:02:27] <Coldguy> I meant this http://chiptuneswin.com
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[02:03:13] <aria> I like free things
[02:03:29] <aria> This is the most colored website
[02:03:36] <aria> Its like the giantbomb IRC..
[02:03:46] <Coldguy> that is the expansion
[02:03:53] <Coldguy> get the origional too
[02:05:26] <ruffas> these be quality chiptunes?
[02:05:36] <Coldguy> yup
[02:05:45] <Coldguy> masted by DJ Cutman
[02:06:10] <aria> Is that Cutman?
[02:07:06] <Coldguy> DJ cutman http://www.dualshockers.com
[02:07:19] <ruffas> i like chiptunes, but there's too much chafe to sort through to find the good bits
[02:07:46] <Coldguy> its a solid road trip album
[02:08:06] <ruffas> i like driving music
[02:08:23] <ruffas> how does it fall on a scale of 1 - Radar Love?
[02:08:24] * Coldguy knows a lot about it
[02:09:08] <ruffas> Radar Love being the most drivingest song there is
[02:09:29] <Coldguy> I thought Movin right along has that honor
[02:09:51] <Coldguy> http://www.youtube.com
[02:09:55] <ruffas> it's up there, but don't be daft
[02:10:44] <ruffas> the muppets really don't feel 30+ years old
[02:11:33] <Coldguy> I say it is around a 7.5
[02:11:49] <Coldguy> an 8 would be The One Ups Volume 1
[02:12:08] <aria> So this teaworld thing looks fun
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[02:13:26] <Foundcuriosity> Hello!
[02:13:34] <aria> Sup
[02:16:06] <ruffas> teaworld thing
[02:16:06] <ruffas> ?
[02:19:02] <aria> its a game
[02:19:04] <aria> where kirby has a gun
[02:19:13] <aria> and its multiplayer
[02:19:25] <Coldguy> Isn't that smash brothers?
[02:19:41] <aria> Yes.
[02:19:50] <aria> Kirby doesn't act like kirby though
[02:19:55] <aria> Its just a ball that jumps
[02:20:05] <aria> and has a bionic commando hook
[02:20:09] <Foundcuriosity> :|
[02:20:28] <Foundcuriosity> That sounds pretty great.
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[03:38:42] <aria> Right, good night yall
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[06:48:00] <Apsup> Morning!
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[07:57:39] <Bronzdragon> Good evenin'
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[14:23:11] <VentureJ> Guten Morgen, everyone
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[15:39:22] <apreche> must get to end of work day...
[15:39:36] <apreche> not even half over...
[15:39:39] <apreche> fading..
[15:47:35] <Neito> Try a small cup of coffee. (very small, because you're not used to caffiene)
[15:47:42] <Neito> Or black tea.
[15:51:20] <Neito> Haha wow.
[15:51:39] <Neito> Glen Beck is trying to claim that a Goon who was killed in some recent embasy attack was a CIA spy.
[16:36:55] <Apsup> The Witcher complited, I wonder if I should move on to Witcher 2 right away or play something else for a change.
[16:37:07] <Apsup> Maybe finally get Mass Effect 3.
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[16:59:23] <Neito> Am I picking on Muppet, or is he saying stupid things?
[17:03:36] <Apsup> Maybe you are picking on Muppet because he is saying stupid things.
[17:03:45] <Neito> Mm.
[17:04:07] <Apsup> Isn't that how frcf works?
[17:05:18] <Apsup> I think it kinda silly how there is huge duscussion about tits, that came from picture that clearly focused on ass.
[17:09:26] <Neo> s/silly/obvious/g
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[18:07:00] <VentureJ> Are you guys still here?
[18:07:20] <Neo> just waiting for someone to yell into the echo chamber
[18:07:58] <VentureJ> Hello! ello! ello! llo! llo! o! o! o...
[18:09:20] <Neo> I'm getting a vague memory of a show or movie where someone yells into canyon and it echos, then another guy, then the last guy hears back "you're ugly" or some other insult. Am I inventing this memory?
[18:11:55] <GauntletWizard> No, i'm pretty sure that's a gag that's been used a few times
[18:11:59] <aria> Yup
[18:12:00] <aria> Hello
[18:31:32] <Apsup> Fuck yea, there will be new Machinae Supremacy album soon and they will come to gig here later this fall.
[18:34:54] <aria> Hrm.. I wonder if I'll be forced to go, since it's only two countries away..
[18:36:03] <Apsup> Where areyou situated?
[18:37:10] <aria> Oslo
[18:38:52] <Apsup> Yea, I remembered that you were from Norway, but wasn't sure.
[18:39:14] <Apsup> Seems like they have a gig in Sweden, few in Finland and couple in Russia.
[18:40:10] <aria> I'm not a Machinae Supremacy fan (nothing against them), but my boyfriend really likes them, so he might wanna go to the Sweden one
[18:40:29] <aria> And then yknow, drag me along
[18:41:18] <Apsup> I really like them a lot, but there is no band in earth that would make me travell long distance just for a one gig.
[18:41:36] <aria> It's like an hour
[18:41:38] <aria> Maybe 2
[18:42:35] <Apsup> 2 hours travel time is pretty long distance for me.
[18:42:43] <aria> Fair enough
[18:43:37] <aria> Yeah I agree, but we'd of course also do other things while there. Not saying I wanna go or anything =P
[18:44:01] <aria> And I doubt it'll actually take 2 hours. Probably less than 1 total
[18:44:10] <Apsup> What I like most about them comic for a gig here is that last time when they were here I had just been introduced to their music and new only the stuff from latest album, this time I will be prepared for everything.
[18:44:28] <Apsup> *coming not comic
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[18:55:05] <apreche> t minus two hours
[18:55:15] <aria> To what?
[18:55:21] <apreche> out of work
[18:55:25] <apreche> also GeekNights return
[18:56:04] <aria> Did you find a work-game?
[18:56:13] <apreche> I have been looking for years
[18:56:31] <aria> Tribes won't do?
[18:57:06] <apreche> uh, no
[18:57:31] <apreche> must be a free multiplayer game for Windows and OSX
[18:57:40] <apreche> must also have very low system requirements
[18:57:47] <apreche> so far TF2 is the game that comes closest of all
[18:57:48] <aria> Tribes is free, old and runs in Wine
[18:57:56] <apreche> uh, no
[18:57:57] <aria> there is also the free to play new tribes
[18:58:04] <apreche> uh, no
[18:58:09] <apreche> LOW system requirements
[18:58:17] <apreche> as in, nobody here has anything other than an integrated GPU
[18:58:20] <aria> Your Mac can't run T2?
[18:58:36] <apreche> I don't have a mac, and nobody here is going to go through the pain in the ass of setting it up
[18:58:40] <apreche> it needs to be click and play
[18:58:52] <aria> Oh, local multiplayer?
[18:58:52] <apreche> and it needs to be a good game for maybe 5 players
[18:58:59] <GauntletWizard> ooh, new MaSu album?
[18:59:14] <aria> How about Magicka or Torchlight?
[18:59:25] <apreche> um, I don't think you are hearing properly
[18:59:30] <apreche> OSX AND Windows
[18:59:33] <apreche> FREE
[18:59:42] <apreche> No GPU required
[18:59:50] <apreche> multiplayer
[19:00:09] <apreche> TF2 is the only game that comes close
[19:00:20] <apreche> and it is laggy on many computers here
[19:00:24] <apreche> and not so good for a small number of players
[19:00:49] <GauntletWizard> is "very cheap" acceptable?
[19:00:52] <apreche> no
[19:00:57] <apreche> nobody here will pay money
[19:01:05] <apreche> for an occasional office activity
[19:01:12] <GauntletWizard> not even $5?
[19:01:17] <apreche> $0
[19:01:17] <aria> Torchlight is a 4p cross platform game (at least win and linux. Almost certainly Mac) choose your own price game
[19:01:28] <GauntletWizard> Your office is full of spoilsports
[19:01:31] <apreche> Torchlight is not free
[19:01:34] <apreche> and only Torchlight 2 is multiplayer
[19:01:38] <aria> 1 is
[19:01:50] <aria> its in the humble bundle
[19:01:50] <apreche> And it needs some GPU
[19:01:56] <apreche> and Torchlight 2 is not OSX
[19:01:56] <aria> Some
[19:01:57] <GauntletWizard> There's not a whole lot of good games taht're free
[19:02:04] <apreche> no kidding
[19:02:05] <GauntletWizard> Super cheap, yes, but free, no
[19:02:17] <apreche> but even if you take away the free
[19:02:19] <apreche> Torchlight is a no go
[19:02:19] <aria> Playing a slightly older game is out of the question?
[19:02:19] <GauntletWizard> http://sauerbraten.org
[19:02:24] <Apsup> http://www.warsow.net ??
[19:02:35] <apreche> those need GPUs
[19:02:59] <GauntletWizard> Sauerbraten's software rendering is pretty good
[19:03:23] <aria> Well, these system requirements aren't super specific, but torchlight says
[19:03:24] <aria> Processor: 1 GHz
[19:03:24] <aria> Memory: 1 GB
[19:03:24] <aria> Graphics: 256 MB VRAM
[19:03:24] <aria> Libraries: glibc 2.7+
[19:03:35] <apreche> people here can't play 3d games
[19:03:39] <Apsup> I think you should look for something text based.
[19:03:52] <aria> Oh.
[19:03:53] <apreche> it's not a room full of gamers
[19:04:02] <apreche> and everyone has crappy computers
[19:04:05] <apreche> some people even have touchpads
[19:04:12] <apreche> and nobody has anything other than an integrated GPU
[19:04:15] <aria> I see. I figured you had recent laptops without GPUs
[19:04:28] <apreche> if this was an easy question, I wouldn't ask it
[19:04:32] <aria> But a i3 can totally run torchlight on its own with its built in GPU
[19:04:37] <apreche> Every game you have listed is a game I already know exists
[19:04:44] <apreche> the only game that will be a right answer is a game that I have never heard of.
[19:04:58] <GauntletWizard> Civ III is super cheap on steam
[19:04:59] <apreche> we already went over the other reasons Torchlight is not acceptable
[19:05:17] <apreche> all those requirements are mandatory, you can't skip on any of them
[19:05:22] <GauntletWizard> Cheap enough to equip a small office on a personal budget
[19:05:32] <apreche> MUST BE $0
[19:05:35] <apreche> MUST BE Multplayer
[19:05:43] <apreche> MUST BE not 3d/GPU using
[19:05:49] <apreche> MUST BE Windows and Mac
[19:05:54] <GauntletWizard> So, what you're saying is that you're cheap and uncharitable
[19:05:57] <GauntletWizard> :)
[19:05:58] <aria> How about the kirby shooty game?
[19:06:05] <apreche> if you miss even one of those, then the game is not acceptable
[19:06:14] <apreche> that would require Nintendo consoles
[19:06:25] <aria> =P it's a PC thing
[19:06:29] <aria> Teeworlds
[19:06:32] <aria> https://www.teeworlds.com
[19:07:05] <apreche> now we are getting somewhere
[19:07:23] <apreche> looks like worms
[19:07:34] <aria> You walk and platform in real time
[19:08:12] <aria> Can you run minecraft?
[19:08:24] <apreche> minecraft is not free
[19:09:24] <aria> No, but I know what can and can't run it
[19:09:34] <aria> Also minecraft is easier to pirate than to get legit.
[19:09:54] <GauntletWizard> what
[19:10:20] <aria> At least the Linux version is confusing
[19:10:32] <GauntletWizard> ...
[19:10:47] <GauntletWizard> You download the jar file, you run the command that they have on their website
[19:10:55] <aria> Actually
[19:10:58] <aria> that command has typos in it =P
[19:11:04] <aria> That jar downloads a new jar!
[19:11:07] <aria> And it doesn't tell you
[19:11:15] <aria> it downloads a bunch of shit in .minecraft
[19:11:20] <aria> and doesn't ask you to confirm the location
[19:11:25] <GauntletWizard> so?
[19:11:36] <GauntletWizard> It then runs that stuff in .minecraft
[19:11:40] <aria> I didn't realize and couldn't figure out where it went and how to run it
[19:11:41] <GauntletWizard> why does it matter?
[19:11:53] <Apsup> Interesting, in CD:Go you can now choose a spesific map when you go for matchmaking in classic competitive, but there still isn't "all maps, both hostage and bomb missions" option.
[19:12:16] <GauntletWizard> Unless your home directory is noexec; in which case yell at your sysadmin
[19:12:41] <aria> I was expecting it to be self contained
[19:12:48] <aria> also, I was expecting it to run without any arguments
[19:12:54] <aria> or at least their given arguments not to have typos
[19:13:06] <aria> And adding mods was super confusing
[19:13:10] <aria> I still have no idea how I made it work
[19:13:32] <aria> The pirate version was just typing in the name of the mod and it worked
[19:14:29] <GauntletWizard> Piracy is a customer service problem
[19:14:49] <aria> I should mention Im on Arch, and it requires some Ubuntu libraries that it doesn't just fetch for you
[19:15:51] <GauntletWizard> Tell the arch maintainers to make a minecraft-deps package :P
[19:15:59] <aria> Oh they do
[19:16:02] <aria> thats how you play it
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[19:16:07] <aria> And it just works perfectly
[19:16:10] <aria> mods and everything
[19:17:09] <GauntletWizard> wait
[19:17:23] <GauntletWizard> Arch has a pirate version of minecraft in their repositories?
[19:17:31] <aria> Community repos
[19:17:47] <GauntletWizard> Ugh
[19:17:48] <aria> So not really
[19:17:52] <GauntletWizard> Link?
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[19:18:05] <aria> ..I use a package manger, I don't have any links =P
[19:22:34] <aria> The & in the logo for sonic 3 & knuckles looks like a C, so I read it as "Sonic 3 Chuckles" =P
[19:33:57] <apreche> teeworlds pretty good
[19:34:13] <aria> I haven't treid it. So that's good to hear
[19:34:14] <apreche> if only we could get the server to change maps
[19:34:15] <aria> it looked fun
[19:36:54] <aria> So looks like everyone who has a TV (technically everyone who pays for a specific TV channel, you're forced to pay for by law) will be getting a free PVR box with a youtube application and browser. So that's cool
[19:41:55] <aria> >_> Fucking Norwegian TV channel. You can't stream their shows if you have adblock in your browser. Is that even legal?
[19:43:06] <GauntletWizard> man, how is it that I've never managed to get to the crystal worlds in all my playing of FTL
[19:54:27] <Apsup> Ok, so the new bomb map in CS:go is pretty fun, at least with one game experience.
[19:55:04] <Apsup> Also, getting the game winning kill in 1vs1 situation feels pretty good.
[20:02:05] <aria> Yeah, but losing that match feels pretty shitty
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[20:02:44] <aria> Welcome, Ruff of as
[20:02:52] <ruffas> salutations
[20:03:28] <aria> Fuck Norwegian TV. Why do people watch this shit?
[20:03:58] <aria> There's like 90 seconds of commercials twice for a-- I dunno how long, but not very long show
[20:04:16] <aria> Also, they ban you from watching if you have adblock
[20:04:37] <ruffas> that sounds more like internet tv
[20:04:38] <aria> Quality isn't super great either
[20:04:42] <ruffas> what happens to be norwegian
[20:04:50] <aria> Well, its a TV channel =P
[20:05:09] <aria> They also stream their stuffs online
[20:05:19] <aria> I'm trying to watch a archived show
[20:07:37] <ruffas> ahh
[20:07:41] <ruffas> what manner of show?
[20:08:09] <aria> Buying houses
[20:08:39] <ruffas> oh...
[20:08:40] <ruffas> right
[20:08:44] <ruffas> you're trying to do that
[20:09:01] <aria> Well, I'm watching this cause the commercial made it look funny
[20:09:08] <aria> its not been funny, but at least entertaining
[20:15:13] <ruffas> ah
[20:15:15] <ruffas> that's something
[20:16:18] <aria> 45 minutes. Commercials thrice, 90 seconds every time
[20:16:28] <aria> That is too much!
[20:17:48] <aria> apreche: Have you come to a verdict about Teeworld? Is it any fun?
[20:34:54] <aria> This dude's name is "gay"
[20:35:47] <GauntletWizard> is he a homosexual?
[20:35:58] <aria> No
[20:36:02] <aria> He has a wife and children
[20:36:57] <ruffas> it's a cover
[20:37:26] <aria> The name, or the wife =P?
[20:37:34] <ruffas> yes
[20:42:43] <apreche> aria: teeworld is good!
[20:42:49] <apreche> it needs more maps
[20:42:50] <apreche> more weapons
[20:42:56] <aria> Its open source
[20:43:05] <apreche> and you have to make sure you play on a map appropriately sized to the number of players
[20:43:12] <aria> So those things will probably get added if people start playing it
[20:43:20] <apreche> there were a lot of servers in the server listing
[20:43:22] <aria> How many players does it do?
[20:43:24] <apreche> so I think it is popular already
[20:43:33] <apreche> not sure, but the server config lets you change it
[20:43:34] <aria> Well thats good
[20:43:40] <apreche> very similar to hlds server config
[20:43:42] <apreche> sv_maxclients
[20:43:51] <aria> How many players did you play with, when it was fun?
[20:44:19] <apreche> me and two co-workers
[20:44:20] <apreche> so 3
[20:45:01] <aria> Oh, so you have co workers who like it to? Well perfect, glad I was able to find something matching your needs
[20:45:36] <apreche> replay value might be low, though
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[20:46:11] <Neo> huh, boss just tried to teach us about gameification. Never would've expected it from that guy, but I'm thrilled to get to talk about this stuff with the team
[20:50:29] <Apsup> So Scott, now that you are with us (unless you already went away) have you tried the new CS:Go maps, and other changes of the latest patch?
[20:50:40] <apreche> when was I supposed to do that?
[20:51:01] <Apsup> Don't you play cs:go all the time, every day?
[20:51:16] <apreche> pay me my salary, and yes, I will do that.
[20:52:07] <Apsup> I don't think I care about your expert opininon of some maps quite that much.
[20:53:11] <apreche> well, I know one of them is vertigo
[20:53:14] <apreche> which I played often back in the day
[20:54:26] <Apsup> I don't think I had ever seen it before today.
[20:54:27] <apreche> also, I seem to remember some place in L4D being very similar to de_vertigo
[20:54:46] <apreche> It's an awesome map because crappy players fall of the side
[20:54:56] <apreche> someone will back away from you, and not look behind them, and fall off.
[20:55:20] <Apsup> I fell on the elevator shaft because of flash blindness. I just got my vision back so I had time to see where I was falling.
[20:55:21] <apreche> also, lots of crates
[20:55:57] <apreche> love me some crates
[20:56:01] <Apsup> Yea, I won the last round because dead terrorist dropped the bomb in a perfect spot that I was able to camp between two crates.
[20:57:13] <apreche> Here's some 1.6 de_veritgo gungame
[20:57:15] <apreche> http://www.youtube.com
[20:57:26] <Apsup> I quite liked how the area around of the bomb sites was full of boxes and other rubble to manuver around.
[20:58:41] <Apsup> Wow, I can see that the map has canged quite a bit. I regocnize the places, butit's way different in go.
[20:59:24] <apreche> cs_thunder, greatest map of all time
[20:59:26] <apreche> http://www.youtube.com
[20:59:30] <apreche> and now I leave work! hooray
[21:01:08] <bronzdragon> work
[21:01:09] <bronzdragon> leavings
[21:02:36] <Apsup> I should leave the computer and go to the bed. Should, but will not.
[21:02:51] <bronzdragon> Yeah, I've done that.
[21:02:52] <bronzdragon> DAily
[21:14:10] <Apsup> Fuck Yes! Won a Arms Race in Go.
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[21:15:29] <bronzdragon> 'sup Neito
[21:15:35] <Neito> Not much.
[21:15:57] <Neito> catching up on some forum threads. Wondering why I'm paying 10,000 a year to be told what a variable is.
[21:17:37] <Apsup> Because free education is communism?
[21:18:18] <Neito> Only if it's post-secondary.
[21:18:30] <Neito> Otherwise it's essential for the functioning of our universe.
[21:18:57] <Neito> Seriously. We spend an hour today on what boils down to the following code segment:
[21:19:15] <Neito> Scanner console = new Scanner(System.in);
[21:19:25] <aria> http://www.youtube.com
[21:19:40] <Neito> String Foo = console.nextline();
[21:20:10] <Neito> I don't know whats worse; that we're a month in to class and just now getting to input, or that there are people who don't get it.
[21:21:48] <Neito> Does knowing the basics of coding really get me that far ahead of everyone else entering a computer science program?
[21:22:45] <Apsup> Are those on basic programming courses? OR is that the high point in yer education?
[21:23:17] <bronzdragon> Neito, what language is that?
[21:23:21] <Neito> Java.
[21:23:30] <bronzdragon> Get yer hacks out of here, ya hacker
[21:23:49] <Neito> This is the first class in "The Sequence", the four classes that every CS major has to take.
[21:24:09] <bronzdragon> The Sequence is a good name for a movie
[21:24:13] <bronzdragon> Or a book, even
[21:24:33] <Apsup> Well in that case you have nothing to bitch about, first programming class should be about basic shit.
[21:25:16] <Apsup> course, I mean
[21:25:30] <bronzdragon> I feel that if you can't do variables, functions and program flow in a week, you're doing something wrong.
[21:25:31] <Neito> I still find it annoying.
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[21:26:14] <Neito> We're a month in and we're getting to reading the console for input. That's shit I taught myself at 6 with BASIC.
[21:26:14] <bronzdragon> 'sup Cold man!
[21:26:34] <bronzdragon> It's not even useful!
[21:27:28] <Neito> Eh. Basic console in/out is useful for trivial programs.
[21:27:40] <Coldguy> howdy
[21:27:43] <Neito> If you're talking about minecraft, yeah, you're right.
[21:27:47] <Coldguy> I love Amazon Cloud Player
[21:27:58] <Neito> I prefer Google Play Music.
[21:28:03] <Neito> Only because I don't have to pay for it.
[21:28:10] <Coldguy> I have too much indie music for google play music
[21:28:16] <bronzdragon> Even if you're making a utility, don't you want an UI, even an simple one?
[21:28:24] <pence> Neito: I went to a non tech school, and there were people who never grokked the very basic concepts of OOP
[21:28:24] <Coldguy> google play dont like indie artists and custom tags
[21:28:26] <bronzdragon> I suppose commandline stuff is good, but meeeh
[21:28:31] <Neito> Google Play Music uploads your songs.
[21:28:41] <Coldguy> and doesnt keep the tags
[21:28:49] <Neito> It dpeneds, bronzdragon.
[21:28:51] <Coldguy> so it was a vast collection of "unknown artists"
[21:29:02] <Neito> I've never had GPM strip out my tags.
[21:29:08] <Neito> And I have a bunch of weird shit.
[21:29:13] * Neito shrug.
[21:29:16] <Apsup> Neito: my "course project" for our programming 1 was a palindrome checker, it checked if entered string was a palindrome. That was the level we were expected to have after first course of programming.
[21:30:37] <Neito> I guess.
[21:30:45] <bronzdragon> That's easier then a calculator!
[21:30:51] <bronzdragon> That was my first day project
[21:30:58] <Neito> What language, Apsup ?
[21:31:02] <bronzdragon> Finished it within an hour too.
[21:31:02] <Apsup> java
[21:31:10] * Coldguy is listening to Chiptunes = Win +1
[21:31:23] <Apsup> Apparently they use c# now and do games in programming 1.
[21:31:23] * Coldguy is also at work
[21:31:24] <Neito> Ah.
[21:31:31] <Neito> WE're learning Java, too.
[21:31:42] <Neito> I feel like that would be way too trivial in Perl.
[21:31:52] <pence> our final project for programming 1 was something like ToRomanNumeral(int x)... only the professor was only expecting it to handle integers between 1 and 20
[21:31:58] <bronzdragon> My first C project was text-based space invaders.
[21:32:12] <pence> so most of the class just wrote a big switch statement and copy-pasted
[21:32:31] <Neito> I used Switch/Case and Fall-through for my first assignment.
[21:33:11] <bronzdragon> I'm imagening a teacher looking at a switch and going "... what is this? Is it like a bunch of ifs?"
[21:33:13] <Neito> I feel like it'd be pretty easy to start at the biggest Roman Numeral and just modulus your way all the way to 1.
[21:33:43] <pence> I think that's what I ended up doing
[21:33:47] <pence> it's been a while
[21:33:51] <Neito> The best worst line of code I've ever seen was froms omeone complaining about a co-worker's code.
[21:33:52] <Apsup> that made me remember a funny thing on a internet. So are you people familiar with fizzbuzz?
[21:34:01] <Neito> They did
[21:34:04] <bronzdragon> I am!
[21:34:08] <Neito> Case (foo)
[21:34:23] <Neito> Switch "Bar" if Foo=="Bar"{
[21:34:33] <Neito> Or, other way around.
[21:34:35] <Neito> I'm tired.
[21:35:02] <Neito> But basically, they didn't realize they were supposed to use Breaks, and didn't realize how pointless the Case was if you're just goign to do iterated Ifs.
[21:35:04] <bronzdragon> What if the switch accidentally fails?
[21:35:10] <Apsup> There was a blog where people in our student assosiation wrote different versions of fizzbuzz, one guy posted "Nice little Java version"
[21:35:46] <bronzdragon> Was it nice?
[21:35:48] <Apsup> prinln("1");println("2");println("fizz");...and so on.
[21:35:54] <Neito> ...
[21:36:06] <Neito> That's more work than actually figuring out the math.
[21:36:09] <Apsup> Funny thing is that he made another program to make that code.
[21:36:19] <Apsup> for the sake of the joke.
[21:36:20] <bronzdragon> ... Oh, alright
[21:36:22] <Neito> That's.... Actually pretty cool.
[21:36:22] <bronzdragon> That's better.
[21:37:09] <Apsup> It was quite a lol when I read thought the comments of lisp solutions and other fancy stuff and then encoutered row after row of println
[21:48:48] <Neito> ... Why does GameMaker have Steam achivements.
[21:48:58] <bronzdragon> Because why not?
[21:49:10] <bronzdragon> UDK also has steam achievments
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[21:54:43] <Apsup> Clearly world needs more Steam achievments
[21:55:27] <bronzdragon> You've missed an E there.
[21:59:16] <bronzdragon> AchievEment <-- for Aria
[21:59:48] <Coldguy> I want contextual achievements
[22:00:42] <Coldguy> Mat Hazard had a funny way about it but rather have it go deeper
[22:07:06] <bronzdragon> Like inception?
[22:07:22] <Coldguy> kinda
[22:07:41] <Coldguy> Mat Hazard would say "Well that deserves an achievement" and BAM get an achievement
[22:08:31] <Coldguy> more people should play that game
[22:08:32] <bronzdragon> So he's deadpool?
[22:08:41] <Coldguy> its not great but the humor is top notch
[22:09:05] <Neito> http://fatuglyorslutty.com
[22:10:17] <Coldguy> http://www.youtube.com
[22:10:22] <Coldguy> see opening sequence
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